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@RickeyDart "Some stories are just sad and disgusting from start to finish"" I think you meant to say "engrossing and hilarious" with which I would totally agree.
THIS is why we need a time machine not to prevent catastrophes or put modern technology into the past but to see what becomes of this guy if he wasn't uh more redditor
Man, Bobs letter to Chris is absolutely heartbreaking when you see how Chris turned out. It was so wholesome and loving, and he had no idea how much of a bastard Chris would be.
It was Bob's last attempt at getting through to Chris as he knew he couldn't just go back to his old life with his first born children who would eventually achieve the academical success that Bob wanted for Chris. A broken man growing up through the time.
Bob's spirit while watching Chris: No no no. Stop. What are you doing? What are you doing with your life? (Yes, I am referencing Markiplier for those who didn't understand)
A friend of mine once got drunk watching that one big documentary on Chris and said "This Sonichu thing is clearly a demon that choose Chris as its victim" and that stood out to me.
@@TheOwneroftheIC before the Kiwi Farms went down there was a thread with pictures of him on wallmart. He seems to be in a group home and access to the internet probably limited .
@lakojake4215 Chris isn't actually racist. The reason that they wanted to have a girlfriend who was specifically "white" was that Chris had had a dream that they believed was prophetic, in which they had a "white" daughter named Crystal. If Chris had a girlfriend who wasn't "white", then the supposed prophecy wouldn't have been fulfilled.
Just to put it out there I was the employee at gamestop in the red shirt behind the counter. What that lunatic did was come in there causing drama over sonic booms cover. He intended to literally burn the game box with a lighter he had. He had been banned from all other gamestops In charlottesville for doing exactly that and we were warned of him and when he came in we informed him he needed to leave or security would escort him out. He then said some bs about not touching him and pulled out pepper spray and sprayed part of the front counter and sprayed our coworker directly In the face. He is absolutely unhinged and is a danger to Public safety. He was then detained outside of the fashion square mall right afterwards.
Chris Chan is a guy that I've been hearing about a lot of times on the internet but I never understood why he is so infamous. Turns out, it's because his lore is way too complex.
I remember seeing a video in 2010 that my friend showed me. His name never left my head after that. It was like one of those memories where I questioned if I even watched that video. Years later I’m on this video lol.
Same. I was there for the entire online ordeal but never paid attention even when he got arrested. Honestly it just made me sad to see how deranged he was and other people, shows how dangerous unlimited internet access is to someone with a fragile and broken mental state.
Fun fact: If you just watch the first 15 minutes, this video is just an uplifting feel-good story of a boy with autism and a troubled home situation who makes the most of it, befriending his peers in highschool and having a great 18th birthday.
If no one else spotted it, Anne Boleyn was not childless. She merely disappointed the King by having a surviving daughter, who was one of the longest reigning monarchs-- Queen Elizabeth I.
this is so freaking insane. the 13 year old boy pretending to be an adult woman to have nightly phone sex with chris and having an entire group of adults rooting him on ??? so bonkers
Internet pedos encourage child to have phone sex with a mentally disabled man who didn't know it was a child on the other end. Insane. All of them need to be on a list.
Barbara in the next life needs to take so many notes while Bob needs to bail. For those less in the know, this is a plan the fact that Chris has said that both parents will be reincarnated.
There are a lot of names, so I made a resume to make it easy to fallow -Chris Chan (Christopher/Christian/ Christine) -Sonichu: a character that chris created -Bob and Barbara: Chris parents -Megan: A girl that was a friend of Chris, she had a lot of pattience for Chris even when he wrong her a lot -Rocky: an old lady that becomes Chris confidant in real life -Catherine: a girl that date Chris as a joke that goes wrong -Ivy: Another troll pretending to be a girl that fall in love with Chris -The Guard Dogs: a group made by the capitan, Marvin (The Pickleguy) and null that try (and succed) to help Chris during the idea guys arc Antagonists (real life): -Mary Lee: The dean of Chris school, she was the main antagonist in his sonichu comic -Mike Snyder: the owner of a videogame store where Chris was banned, Chris tried to run over him... Twice Antagonists (internet trolls): -Vivian Gee: she stared as a Troll, but then she became an ... ally???, she was honest to Chris about how the world seems him she even Made a full audiobook to help him -Blanca: A fake account made by three trolls, they take Chris Medallion of Sonichu, they also create the character the called "The Pickleman" identity later taked by Marvin -Marvin: also called the Pickleman, he dressed in a pickle costume and trolled Chris, the most famous one is the time that he prank a fake date with a girl called Emily in a mail and then Pickleguy came and asked Emily for a date (and she agrees because all was planned), he stop trolling Chris after the death of Bob to later became part of the Guard Dogs to defeat the idea guys -Clyde Cash: he trolls Chris calling him gay, he created the gruop the Miscreants (a gruop of trolls), he rape the fake girlfriend of Chris called Panda, he also made himself pass as nintendo staff, in the end he gave an advice to Chris out of pitty for the Blue Spike situation -Blue Spike: part of the Miscreants, Bluespike trolls Chris making roleplay sexcalls and made him admits some weird things as an alterego called Julie, he also bully and sexual abuse Chris as his alterego Max, the evil brother of Julie, he was one of the most wicked, sadistic and evil trolls, even Clyde had to intervine and ban him from The Miscreants -Liquid Chris: my favorite character, he made himself pass as the original Chris, he made everything that Chris do but better, he accomplish everthing that Chris ever wanted like having a girlfriend and a job, he leaves -Alec Benson: created a parody of sonichu, he also has two alter egos Jackie and his evil exboyfriend Lars, he becomes a friend to Chris later under the alterego of Jackie he tries to help him to improve his life, thanks to him Chris stop posting on internet for 8 month - Idea guys: a group of 4 trolls (Joshua Allen and Stephen Boyd mostly) that made chris thought that all realities were mixing, they stole $6000 dollars from Chris and his family, they made Chris draw Sonichu being rape by him (this can sound funny but when you know that Chris see Sonichu as his son) they really mess with Chris mind and his idea about incest they were defeated thanks to "the Guard Dogs" -Isabella Janke: the one that expose the rape/incest relationship between Chris and his mother Barb, Isabella is probably the most evil person in this story she is a sociopath that wanted to be the biggest troll in Chris history, her end goal was to Made Chris commit sucide In the end we have an anti lesson of how to live and what happens when a person with mental health doesnt get the help that he need
Isabella deserves jail time. She’s the real lolcow. We will read about her on the news one day when they find dead babies buried in her yard or something equally as terrible.
What’s most impressive to me is the fact that Chris Chan has been consistently drawing art for more than 20 YEARS and, amazingly, hasn’t improved. Edit: DANG I’ve never made a top comment before. Nice.
The wild thing is, though, he HAS improved. The improvements aren't obvious, but you can compare earlier and later Sonichu art and see that his control of his art has changed. It's fascinating.
That’s one thing about Chris’ story I don’t hate. His art is interesting. It could only come from a man with the mental capacity of a child. It’s so weird and bizarre.
You can draw everyday for a HUNDRED years. If you don't see other artist's work and try to replicate their art style and mix it into yours to create a new art style or ignore every basic art step like Chris does, then you're NEVER going to improve
I'm only a few minutes into this documentary, and that letter that Chris's father wrote telling him to take care of and love Barb just makes my skin crawl knowing how this all ended.
She doesn’t deserve any care at all. If she had attempted to be a good mother at any point, Chris would have been very different. Instead she infantilised him, belittled him, didn’t seek relevant help for him, emotionally manipulated him, didn’t provide any form of decent nutrition, and was overly physically smothering with him. She is a terrible woman
Weird... I am autistic (diagnosed late, age 27), and I had a lot of similar experiences. Not to this degree, obviously. But because I was so lonely, I created my own friends. It helped to drown out that terrible voice in my head telling me "you'll never be normal, freak". I obsessed over video games, reading, and movies, mostly. Pokemon and Zelda were big ones, along with Dragon Age. I didn't think they were real, but I used them to know how to make facial expressions and tone. It also helped me understand humor, as every joke went way over my head. They helped me in ways normal people can't, because in the shows you know exactly when people are lying and how they feel. It helped me come out of my shell a little and have some tentative friends. I just needed to know how to show what I was feeling. I write now, and I'm pretty damn good at it. But never in my life would I have turned into this. Even if you don't count the racist, sexist, ableist, incestuous, and potentially criminal activity, his core is rotted. Probably from a very young age. He rotted, and then the only thing that grew from there was a poisoned tree. Please do not associate this human shit stain with all autistic people. We are not all like this.💝
Hopefully you didnt have parents with mental illness growing up. Which chris had. And you probably didn’t have people who dedicated countless hours to find out everything about you and then use that against you. I dont know how chris chan had been with parents with better mental health, and no interactions on the internet. But he wouldn’t be the person he became. There is also a huge spectrum of autism. And it may be possible that chis is more low functioning than you are.
That’s some real shit bro. “You’ll never be normal freak” hit hard. It’s really easy to empathize with someone being alienated and how lonely it feels. However, it doesn’t matter who you are, you have to look at the cold harsh truth of reality and no one is coming to save you. Diamonds are formed under pressure and all that. I’m glad you found the proper ways of expression. seeing the world differently must be tough
Oh, I will never even BEGIN to substitute all autistic people with Chris Chan. I know a few autistic people, on various places on the spectrum. They are all perfectly normal people who do good things and bad things just like everyone else. Chris Chan is uniquely horrible. The situation he was in from childbirth was bad, yes, but he himself? He is more of his mother's son than his father's.
I don't remember where i read this, but i remember someone saying the medallion probably calls to Chris the same way the Green Goblin's mask calls to Norman.
I have an autistic cousin and I realized that both his parents are extremely strict about his social media and internet usage to the point that he barely even know what Netflix is. I was confused at first but seeing how Chris wrongly handle his social media, I am glad my cousin is well taught..
Please don’t generalize us autistics as incompetent… please. We all won’t turn out like Chris Chan 💀 we are literally just chilling. EDIT: it’s long, a lot of people misinterpreted what i said OK THIS BLEW UP. im autistic and almost 18 so my experience is obviously going to be different than someone under the age of 13 and is autistic. i agree SOME autistics need supervision, banning us from social media or the internet and having parents being controlling literally us is the opposite of what we need. high/low whatever functioning you are… there’s something very strange to me that OPs uncle and aunt are keeping their child blissfully unaware of the outside world. barely knowing what a TV streaming service is…? is very concerning to me. unless he’s like 7. if he’s 13-17 he should at least know what it is. REGARDLESS: assuming autistics on social media who get trolled like Chris Chan will end up like Chris Chan feeds into the stigma that we are incompetent babies and need to be taken care of. Chris Chan became the way she did because she was neglected, raised terribly, and was treated poorly online. this does not excuse her behavior (obviously)- she is a terrible person. unfortunately her fate could’ve been prevented if circumstances were different, but i do not have sympathy or compassion for her 😭 TDLR (i know a lot of you won’t read that dw i wouldn’t want to either): > being unaware of the world around you as an autistic = BAD > over exposure to social media when you’re under 13 w/o supervision = ALSO BAD > autistics online who get trolled ≠ same fate as chris chan
Honestly gotta give Megan some credit for putting up with Chris for so long. Literally gave him several undeserved chances and was excruciatingly patient with him
she actually used chris and had him buy her a ton of nazi memorabilia from ebay using his credit card. Little sus that she is german, last name Schroeder.
Learning about Chris-Chan is like finding the necronomicon, where instead of gaining dark, unknown from eldritch and becoming insane from the horror, you just go insane from the horror
He actually has a good radio/broadcast voice in that first “Song of Christian” video even if he has a little bit of a stammer. Almost a shame he deteriorated so rapidly.
With the benefit of having everything condensed into one video this was the most painful detail next to his dwindling social skills. I have limited sympathy for Chris overall but from the outside thats a literal hell…
Wasn't really sure what you were talking about until I got to 2:58:30 and saw his whatsapp messages. He used to be a pretty eloquent writer and now he writes like he can barely scramble the right words together. I also underestimated how much time had passed since he "transitioned". Feels like yesterday when I read the news of him mazing a gamestop employee. Damn.
It always makes me sad how Bob always seemed to see the best in Chris, even in his dying days, he seemed to fully expect Chris to not only be willing to take care of his mother in his absence, but be capable of doing so. You’d think after he’d spent 30-ish years with Chris, that he’d be able to know that he was not only not capable of taking care of anyone, but incapable of recognizing that anyone but himself might need to be taken care of, but no, he always saw the best in his son, even when the mediocre wasn’t even there.
Tom didn't mention it but during the whole Miyamoto trolling saga Bob and Barb legit thought that Sonichu was famous and there were japanese bussinessmen looking to buy the IP. They were just too old and clueless of the internet
Chris Chan lives the type of life that makes you - no matter what you may be going through or have gone through - grateful that you will never, _ever_ end up like him. His story is a cautionary tale of how _not_ to conduct your life.
Exactly. Me myself, I have aspergers and socially awkward with some health issues but Chris here makes me feel like I don't have autism or social awkwardness. I'm quite thankful that my mom helped me with some of my issues so I didn't become like Chris, otherwise where will I be now?
sonichu is probably a demon, tried to manifest itself earlier with the bionic the hedgehog, but took control of his life as sonichu everything chris goes thru is extremely demonic
This is insane. Everything just goes sideways so quickly, it's like watching a landslide. Half the time I was wondering wtf was going on, and the other half I was being sick.
Whenever I'm feeling down or anxious about life, come back to this video. I end up recoiling so hard from every word that I start feeling better about everything.
A troll that spends hours and hours catfishing an autistic man trying to take the moral high ground and telling them that they’re wasting they’re time playing video games is the epitome of the most mirroring thing I’ve ever seen
This whole thing is pretty tragic honestly. Chris is clearly not the best person. But people really abused the shit out of a mentally sick person as well. It was hard to listen to this story and felt very cruel from both Chris actions and the trolls that abused him constantly. I feel esp bad for those women tho. Good god.
@@philip_siHeya Ian Brandon Anderson no need to be telling people they're "wasting time" for playing video games or trying to convince someone to change.
The pre internet era of Chris is the golden era people don’t realize. While in high school, he was clearly thinner, more social, and able to grow and change, but then it went down hill and Sonichu gained control of him
It’s crazy to me that this drama started so long ago. I was in my mid 20s and single. Now I’m divorced and have a teenager and two preteens. And there’s Zoomers who look at this as ancient history. It’s bonkers how much influence this had on internet culture today. My youngest is non verbal autistic and the CWC saga taught me all the wrong ways to raise a spectrum child so I’m just doing the opposite. So I guess that’s a silver lining.
Man all this was happening and I was watching Naruto AMVs to Avril Lavigne songs and finding punk pop and scene culture. I didn't know anything of this going on despite being in high school.
As a Autistic kid growing up, the hardest thing for me to understand was that not everyone is your friend, not everyone is laughing with you, people are using you for the joke and make fun of you. I’m so glad to have a mom that understood that I was different and was able to help me see that. Seeing Chris’s history just makes me sad because I was him at one point. I feel like if he just had some type of consistent help this might of gone differently.
the lack of support in Chris's life was probably one of the biggest contributing factors in creating the monster we see today. im glad your mom is supportive and helpful
Bro I was a regular kid who looked like every other kid and still got bullied, beaten (by teachers, principal and my parents) laughed at and wasn't even allowed outside of my house or to even look through a window or be allowed to get summer jobs to get allowance (bc parents wouldn't give money to a girl anyways why would u need it. U ain't goint nowhere. While my bros got treated like princes)had no rights to have friends bc mom was against it and no communication with the outside world other than going to school. i ve seen kids who got less problems than me, and still ended up either dropping out of school and becoming delinquents or shooting up schools The autistic kids in my school who were just verbally bullied and never beaten (bc who would beat an autistic kid?) Turned out amazing. Had good lives and excelled in their studies. They weren't even being followed up by drs except for one of them which had also mental problems in addition to autism. Her dad built a private school and named it after her and made her the owner of the school. She deserves the best honestly. Such a nice girl with the biggest heart. She had a hard time reading people's emotions so she always assumed the worse out of people. That's why she dropped outta school.
Honestly, after watching the whole thing, all I can say is: people are lucky Chris Chan didn't get guns. This guy is sick, but the people around him were as sick as Chris. This is depressing.
At this point, I do think that Chris is beyond redemption. But at the same time, it is sad to know that throughout his life he never really had any long lasting friendship or true companionship other than his parents. Everyone else in the world just wanted to use him as a source of ridicule to make themselves feel better about their own crappy lives.
He was beyond redemption and a failed existence before he ever met trolls and the internet. Remember, ED found hin at the end of 2007, when he was 25 years old, and the first major trolls in Blanca Weiss came in 2008. At that point, he had burned the bridge with Megan to a crisp and was in trouble at multiple places for the loitering and "love quest". The trolls definitely gave him the coup the grace, but they didn't ruin much.
Even his parents were narcissists. Who use “love bombing” as a tool of manipulation and attempt to “apologize” for whatever abuse they recently dispensed. It’s pretty common.
Megan is a genuine good hearted person, some people deserves a friend like Megan. makes me mad how Chris abused her and just saw her as a sexual object
Ehhh, she deeply enabled him early on, and having someone so desperate for interaction with woman buy you things, even if she said it wasn’t romantic, is going to make him think certain things. Overall, she could’ve handled it better, but it seems her heart was in the right place.
@@ryanrzjr this is so victim blamey. he offered to buy her things while she made it clear she wasn't romantically interested. its not her fault he couldn't take no for an answer and for you to say it is directly contributes to rape culture. if you do something nice hoping to get sex in return, you can't blame the other person for not fulfilling your expectations
@@libbychalios7562 The first message they shared (while they had in person contact prior) was her ASKING him to buy her things. She didn’t deserve what Chris had done to her, but she wasn’t someone who “helped” Chris in any way. I agree that you can’t expect sex by doing something nice, but she actively entertains this KNOWING his intentions with it. It’s like saying you weren’t cheating when you chose to stay friends with some who actively was trying to get you to cheat. Pointing out how she enabled him, an autistic person who had made it completely obvious he would do just about anything to lose his virginity, isn’t victim blaming. You can point out how people may have messed up in a situation without asserting they deserved what they got.
Man... That message Bob left Chris years and years before he passed.. what he hoped, he wished, his dreams... How could a son do what Chris did? Id feel the need to make anything ive done wrong, right and live by those final words from a man whose done nothing but care, love, raise, and guide me until his dying breath... But chris.. im sorry Bob and you as well Barbara.
The parent are a huge part of why he became what he is. He is a severely disabled person that only had a life online. Where people abused him because he is autistic.
People always feel bad for Chris, but he is a terrible person & always has been even before the trolls. I feel bad for Bob, but not Chris. Being autistic doesn’t make you SA your mom. Bro had so many chances to change, but never took accountability
Are we talking about the same person bob and bard poor parenting is what led to chris becoming what he is now and for that i have no symapthy for either of them.
Honestly, I cannot defend what Chris Chan did, but the lengths that people went to just to antagonize and manipulate him was really hard to learn about. The entire story is just awful.
I think Chris Chan's trolls are almost as sad and pathetic as he is. Like why dedicate so much of your time trolling some dude on the internet? At some point, it's not even funny anymore, just sad
Absolutely, both are indefensible. But when you say that now people go "But look what he did to his mom!" Except that his trolls had no idea what was going on with his mom (and for most of the trolling it probably hadn't even happened yet), they really did see an extremely gullible developmentally disabled man and said "Yeah, making a targeted and prolonged effort to screw with him would be fun."
I think it's safe to say that he was a conduit, to some extent, reflective of the evil of the trolls. I mean, Isabell Jenke is the reason for everything involved in his arrest, he wouldn't have done that on his own
@Freerocky16 even before the trolls chris had a long history of not respecting women's boundaries. Part of that is his autism, but there's only so much you can blame on that. Did the trolls help? No. No of course they didn't. That being said, painting chris as some sort of innocent victim who succumbed to bad influences just isn't accurate. If you're truly looking for someone to blame, I'd blame his parents. They made countless mistakes raising him, and Barb was actively abusive towards him.
If I went back in time and told my 2007 self that I would one day listen to a 3+ hour documentary about Chris Chan, I would have stopped using the Internet forever.
I’m autistic myself and I’m absolutely grateful that my parents gave me as much help as they can. I get the struggle of raising someone like me, but Chris’s parents really did nothing and look at how they turned out. I turned 18 last July and I’m graduating this Friday so I’m nervous about my future but I’m excited for it
To be fair, Bob actually tried to be a parent while Barb did a whole lot on nothing at the time. Considering the time and place where Chris was born (parents way too old and understanding of autism was limited at the time), Chris was essentially doomed from the start.
I’m autistic too, and yeah, parts of this story really stand out to me within that context. I genuinely think that if their parents were better, if they got proper help, and if they weren’t falsely medicated, things wouldn’t have turned out this way. It’s quite the tragedy. Chris was a bad person, surrounded by bad people.
Crazy how his church and therapist are his riders. People hate on the church but it stuck beside him trying to help him the entire time when no one would.
Megan has the patience of a saint. If it takes that much to drive her off she must be IMPOSSIBLY tolerant to a normal person. I hope her sane friends know how lucky they are to have her.
Damn meghan had so much patience for Chris. Repeatedly telling chris to stop sexually harassing her but still extending a hand to remain friends is incredible. She was so charitable towards chris and asked for the BARE MINIMUM. But Chris couldnt even do that
@@johnasrican I mean, it's Chris... CWC's idea of what makes a Good Gift is probably miles away from any sane person's. I seriously doubt that it was the driving factor -- she even refused to go to PAX with him even if he'd won the tickets.
As inexcusable as adult Chris's actions are, I cannot help but feel empathy for the much younger Chris. Their life may have turned out very differently with early intervention for their autism. The escalation of the trolling, of what was ultimately a cognitively vulnerable young adult, got so unbelievably dark and because I watched this, perhaps I'm part of the problem.
just had a disturbing thought. if human cloning ever becomes a thing, trolls have hair samples from Chris. they could make clones of him and treat them in different ways to see how they turn out
Ironically the clones could turn out Better than actual solid Chris if they actually took care of his Autism early on and didn’t expose him to unrestricted internet access (Edit, Also the said clones of Chris wouldn’t want to End up like the original Chris if they found out they’re created from a man child rapist lunatic)
It's so insane how his art style literally never changed or improved in any way despite drawing out several issues of comics and nsfw through several decades
@@wyndoellabridge6208 Even so. Drawing differently overtime is something I consider to signify change in a person. For the better or worse, and the fact that Chris hasn't even changed his art style (If I could even call it that) in over 30+ years shows that he has not changed. The terrible behavior that he shown was constant throughout his life and it shows in his "art".
Actually in a way, they did improve, if you look at the earlier versions of characters, they were stick thin-ish, but later on as Chris life spiralled in to sexual deragement, they became more...shapely... bigger thighs, tits and other....Really, what you would expect from a person like Chris. The art style itself still looks garbage like it looked like before, but there is slightly more in the form of character designs. The sad thing here really is that this less obvious evolution has nothing to do with getting better over years, but more about Chris life spiralling out of control.
You have to put these on Spotify, how on earth did you make something so horrific funny?! Actually laughed out loud multiple times. If only I could lock my phone with RU-vid, I'd listen to you permanently 😂 keep it up!
I feel awful for Megan and how often Chris abused her good nature and people-pleasing tendencies. She was far too patient with him and WAY too understanding. I hope she's doing alright.
me too. She seemed like a really kind & patient person. The kind of person who figured she'd try to help the poor guy because that's just how she is. And when people like Chris take advantage of that, those people might be ever-so-slightly less willing to go out of their way to help someone in the future.. and that makes the world an ever-so-slightly worse place :/
The fact that he gave up on Santa for not giving him a girl for Christmas while he was in his 20s and had graduated from college tells you all you need to know about Chris.
It's a consequence of the Dimensional Merge jiggling the universe which convinced God to do the thug shaker, messing up spacetime so badly that it gave Chris Chan's life foreshadowing
What he did to hes mom was forshadowed 12 years ago. He talked about having a wet dream of hes mom. And if you wanna get technically this may have been forshadowed almost 2 decades ago, as Chris took hes mom to the prom The writers don't know what subtly means :v
I actually had never heard the lore, just seen the memes. This is actually so horrible. A very mentally ill man, neglectful elderly parents, a group of people online taking advantage of him for fun, and the predictable fallout. This is some messed up shit.
you almost feel bad for (younger) chris, im sure if chris had parents who cared for his autism, and internet trolls werent so ruthless, so many things probably wouldve been a lot different, an example what mental neglect and bullying can do to someone
@@viral4983 not even if internet trolls weren't so ruthless, just if his parents had actually been half decent parents and allowed him the help he needed. We'd likely be looking at just a normal person among the masses... so I guess there'd just be nobody to see.
@@chrishusted9296 i feel thats very true as well. It seems his dad at the very least really did care about him (the clip of him coming to chris when the trolls lied and said he was going to commit unalive) but if he had the developmental help he needed, he probably wouldve been 100x more functional Though obviously its to a point. Some of the shit he did was just inexcusable and you cant blame unmet autistic needs for
I have an autistic brother that reminds me eerily of Chris-chan. My brother is obsessed with pokemon, sonic, basically all the things that Chris-chan is also obsessed with (fortnite as well but thats a recent invention). He doesn't have any friends who arent girls and also goes on "quests" to find a girlfriend. He says his perfect type is a "pretty sweet girl who doesnt swear!" 😐 I dont want my little brother to turn into the new Chris-chan, but how on earth would you stop that from happening?
@@ifjiwjgjwgnbfuewubfda he's in therapy but it's hard to crack his persona. It's like he legitimately thinks he's a child and he's 15 years old almost 16 in high school. We eventually took away his ps4 and phone cause he was getting too invested in livestreams and trolling. He's been off the internet for a while now and that seems to help a lot.
Don't get him exposed to social media which predators like Blue spike boy can exploit your little brother. Teach him little by little about reality and self awareness. Be a big brother to him.
This guy makes me reconsider my life choices, whenever I doubt myself I always ask myself "what would chris do in this situation?" and do the exact opposite
I kept going back and forth from "wow, poor Chris" to "wow, Chris is awful." This whole video is second hand embarrassment and like, sympathetic whiplash.
@@A5H_01For real dude. I will say though in hindsight, I’m kind of astounded at the lack of self awareness and inability to learn even just by trial and error. I was partially raised by an uncle I have who is on the spectrum & yea he’s a little awkward, but he’s able to figure people out by observation & he’s never lost a job. He did a great job raising me even if we did mostly just watch Predator & Godzilla movies and play dodgeball
Bro. I know nothing about this guy, I didn’t check the video length before i started and I’m only 30 minutes in, we’re already at “Chris gets himself banned from being at the mall unsupervised and suspended from college” the fact that there’s still 2.5 hours of this is concerning to say the least
Sorry Babe not tonight. A RU-vidr just posted a 3 hour documentary about a subject which I already know every little horrifying and disgusting detail about.
Literally all of this could've been avoided if a responsible adult just stepped in, got him support from a professional and got him off the internet. In my eyes, his Mother is the biggest culprit of all. she just gave up on him completely, and ended up enabling his awful and deranged behaviour.
100% Bro was a victim of being 100% gullible, being bullied High School style unchained for years, and his parents were too ignorant to know what the hell an internet is. This is their failure. Just like Racism can ONLY be taught.......so can life skills like coping and dealing with stress, dealing with liars, learning social ques, and so on. He cant self reflect...........if he has never been taught how to self reflect in the first place. .........and he cant get a girlfriend if he's a desperate, creepy unstable mess of a human. His dad never taught him that women dont want some handsy, desperate creepy wierdo. They want a confident happy individual that is stable of mind and cares about their wellbeing.
Null started trying to do that but right in the midst of that altruism the idea guys and janke (spelling)? were fucking with him at which point Null fairly decided to completely step away from any involvement with Chris
Chris was forced to go to counseling in college after he sent threatening drawings to a teacher's home address after she told him to stop loitering around campus with his "looking for a boyfriend-free girl" signs. It did nothing. Some people are just not capable of being helped.
@@arandompasserby7940 I am not a professional so I don't know what kind of facilities are out there for people extremely detached from reality, but I think it's plain to see he needs far more help than just talking to a college counsellor. He needs medication and to go through some sort of rehabilitation process whilst being supervised by qualified professionals. As morbid as it sounds, I think prison might actually be beneficial in that sense.
@@arandompasserby7940 Hes been sent to forced counseling, psychiatry, anger management classes, etc several times in his life. But these were all mandated by some force or another and therefore were short term and often focused on the particular issue rather than his issues as a whole. He needed long term counseling with a therapist specialized for his issues, and he needed it much earlier on in his life than he even ended up getting any counseling at all.
She also showed up in 2018 and was gunna be part of a student film about chris chan but when it was revealed that the makers weren't doing a good job and were asking for way to much money she reconsidered tho there is a sound bite of her from the deleted trailer
That thing in the beginning about him getting held down by school staff, they may have been practicing “attachment therapy” also known has holding therapy or rage reduction therapy. It’s a very banned form of therapy where multiple people hold the child down by their arms and legs and basically force them to struggle and scream for an extended period of time. Sometimes they would also kneel on their face or chest. It was used on kids with anger issues, reactive attachment styles, and autism. I watched a true crime documentary where some people did this to a child with anger issues and autism and they ended up accidentally smothering her to death. Absolutely horrific. Not that this excuses his future behavior of course, but I thought this was interesting and probably something that actually happened. A lawsuit would definitely be warranted there.
Homeschooling him was definitely not the answer there though. He needed social interaction. They should have put him in real therapy and switched schools. Homeschooling oftentimes does more harm than good
Honestly when I heard the story I feel he was just misbehaving and acting like a little turd and they had to do something to keep him from doing whatever he was doing which was probably very disruptive and rotten. That kind of therapy that you mention would have been done in special schools design for kids with that kind of problem but his parents refused to allow him to go to a school like that and he was a regular public school they're not trying and techniques like that on kids misbehaving and they did it to keep them from continuing to misbehave.
I will admit I'm surprised that you didn't go into the fact that Bob paid those girls to be Chris' friends because he believed his son was incapable of making friends on his own
@@SweetMeatTM There was a girl that would wait for Chris at the bus stop that Bob would pay to interact with his son going so far to give Chris $20 to give to her and the boy was completely unaware. In high school Bob continued to pay girls to be Chris' friends and later on in life one of the girls told Chris "we were never really your friends. Your dad was paying us to be around you and we pitied you" Chris not wanting to believe it went to ask his mom who confirmed that it was true
I’m only 1 hour and 30 mins in but one thing I find that a lot of people never mention that his parents were major hoarders and obviously had their own emotional baggage. The hoarding thing really surprised me because they couldn’t even access parts of their house any more, and I’m surprised no one in this family got any professional help before things got really bad.
Honestly, knowing that his parents were hoarders adds so much more info on why Chris was so sheltered, deluded, socially inept, intellectually inept beyond his autism. From what I've seen, people who live in hoarder conditions have some of the worst, most decaying mental health. Hoarding is like the external reflection of someone's inner world. If you live that way, your perception of reality is going to be in the absolute dumps.
@@jobellywelly7025 I can't imagine what hoarders' children go through. I grew up in a cluttered house, not of hoarders, but one way too small, with way too many people, each one an artist or creative, that we were too poor to move out of. In this environment I remember feeling trapped and utterly helpless; I would spend hours cleaning a section of a room, tired beyond belief, just for it to become filthy the next day. I developed depression, anxiety, resentment and anger issues, daily self harm addiction, suicidal and homicidal thoughts, and almost ended my life, before I thankfully turned my life completely over to God and we moved out. But a hoarders house is about twice as worse as the one I had lived in. Anyone who has to deal with that I really pray for their deliverance; I can only imagine how hard that is.
@@cheerswilliam1973 god that sounds awful, I hope you’re doing better now. And yes, I can’t imagine how hard it would be to grow up in major levels of hoarding, since once it’s gets past a certain severity, you can’t fix it yourself
Because it's rural Virginia in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Frankly, I'm amazed Chris got what little help he did, and that was almost certainly due to his proximity to the tiny semi-beacon of civilization called Charlottesville.
Chris Chandler’s story is genuinely so sad. I hate seeing pictures of him as a kid because it could have all gone so differently. He could have lived a normal happy life if he had better people in his life helping and guiding him.
"normal happy life" I don't think that was ever going to happen for Chris. Internet or not, he was still an incel creep who doesn't have the brain function to live a decent life.
