I don't feel empathetic toward him either, regardless of whether he feels remorse or not (which I don't believe he does). He knew exactly what he was doing, planned it (sloppy, but planned), and grieves mostly for himself. That's all he really cares about.
He should of thought about that before killing his entire family... the only remorse he will ever have is how he got caught & how much wiser he should have been at covering up his mess. sick people are amongst us
I should imagine that is really starting to hit home right about now too... All the hub-bub is beginning to fall away & he is probably less high profile than he was. In his mind, he was most likely enjoying being the centre of attention even though this was negative... Now it will be the day-to-day boredom for the hereafter. I do wish they would remove his photos though - he should not be allowed such privileges. I hope he lives a long, long time in that cell.
At PaganHeart .. I watched a mini documentary series on YT with an older gentleman that visits a max security prison in Indiana for a couple of weeks and interviews many inmates and guards... and in the lifers/max sentence section...The guard said it takes 1-5 years on average but sometimes 8 years for inmates to actually realize they will be Incarcerated for life! Sort of a shock to us on the outside ... but it shows with CW that he seems to envision exiting and somehow living out his dream to be with NK which is why I think he holds back with the absolute truth ... plus I think he knows the absolute truth may implicate her. I truest believe she at least knew something of his potential plan... if not more ..
Yes that recording was so disturbing that I couldn't even get through it, just turned it off. He was so hungry for that attention that he finally was willing to spill the awful details. I don't know how the Rzucek family survived it.
This man reminds me so much of my ex husband who started the same abusive behaviour when our child was 1.5 years. At some point I felt me and our child was in danger but kept thinking 'no way' don't be ridiculous. At some point when he took our baby for a walk by the beach at night, the baby came home soaked.. What happened? (Dead expression "I don't know-- he got loose.) I soon found out through finding a love letter to his mistress that he had been cheating. Ladies please follow your instincts and protect yourself. And yes you are correct. These type of people do not care or feel. They will blame their victim for everything. -- I was never ready to be a father-- she forced me. They are not living in an ethical moral reality. No guilt there do not even try to look for it.
Sounds like we had the same type of exhusband. Glad you and your child are safely out of that horrendous situation. I am thankful I got away from my ex. Live your best life❤️🌹🌈🦋
My mother was the same. My father forced her into marriage, according to her - and then she got pregnant. She said she never wanted me. I asked her why she didn't give me up for adoption. She said she was too afraid of her mother/ my grandmother. She always had an excuse.
@@SweetUniverse That sounds to me like a true statement from your mother, not an excuse. It sounds to me like she felt bullied and was unable to be assertive. Unable to stand up for herself. Going by my own history, that’s how I would have behaved. My mother said she was bullied into marrying my father, and even though her own mother was on her side in this matter, she was too afraid of him not to marry him. Sounds crazy doesn’t it, but it happens. She also said that neither she nor my father wanted children, but that they had to have me and my brother “as an insurance policy, so they would have someone to look after them when they got old”. That statement killed any small residual love I had for my mother, but it is actually quite normal , especially in poorer countries, to have children for that reason. And when you think about arranged marriages being the norm in most non-western cultures, it is normal globally for a woman to be bullied into marriage.
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At 16:10 I agree completely. He really thinks he's a good guy who did something wrong like stole an apple from a neighbour's tree but otherwise he's really a great guy in his mind. This guy is the boogeyman. Thank you LAF. 🌹
Eeeeeeek!! Yes. He s the booyman what's most scary is. Ur guard is completely down around him and - look !!! at what exactly he s capable of doing -- that is sooo scary.- silent Swift kill with out any feelings oh my gosh a very dangerous human being
Chris's mother treats him like he just stole a apple. No wonder he thinks nothing of what he's done. The only thing Chris is upset about is the fact he is locked up for life.
I agree 100% the scariest thing is he’s so calm and casual about the whole thing. When I heard him talking with his mother about his children’s memorial it is so bizarre...like really bizarre. The only thing he says about his kids is that he misses them...are you kidding me!! And when his mother talks to him about not pleading guilty he says “ it’s something I have to do” and his mother acts like he is a brave soldier going off to war...makes me wonder what secrets his mother has hidden about her own life 😏
all one needs to see is the cool, calm, nearly serene and entirely collected TV interview Chris Watts gave reporters only a few hours after he annihilated his entire family to know with all confidence that he is unable to feel remorse for these horrendous crimes.
You could tell that in the first news interview, then the police interview then in the prison interview. So in all the occasions we could have seen something there was nothing. The only 2 exceptions I can recall are 1. When he appeared upset talking to his dad in the interrogation room when he said 'I'm going to go to fkng prison' and 2. When his mother read her victim statement and he let a tear fall, that was simply pure shame only his parents could incite in him. Hence, only feelings for himself.
I believe like you that he does not have remorse. But I think he has regret, not in the murders themselves, but in getting caught. Another great video! :)
@@nm9412 I wonder if the wedding dresses NK was looking at were white or off-white. Maybe she and CW could get married while he is in prison when/if he is allowed to have conjugal visits, like Jeffrey MacDonald did. MacDonald is the Green Beret doctor who killed his pregnant wife and two little girls in brutal fashion at Fort Bragg in 1970. You can read Fatal Vision about it.
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We are trying with our sane minds to understand his insane mind. The two will never meet. Serial killer Gary Ridgeway was at least honest enough to say "I had no feelings for them at all". Chris will never say that because he is incapable. (And I suspect that is what is so infuriating about him).
I think he is completely indifferent to what he did. He has no feelings whatever about it. It was a convenience for him to kill his family and not go through with a messy divorce, custody battle and child support and alimony. It appears he was on the verge of losing NK and he needed a quick solution. To him it was no more than taking out the trash.
That all seems completely accurate, but isn't it a curiosity how he could think it would work? What was his explanation to everybody going to be about where his family went? All of her friends and family who never hear from her or the girls again? That's amazing to me. Especially, what would he tell his girlfriend? I had the same question about Scott Peterson.
@@dreamingrightnow1174 They think they are smarter than the cops and if NA hadn't got the cops there so quickly by that night most of the evidence would be gone. Nobody would believe Shannan would just leave with the kids and never contact anyone again, so he would try to make it look like an abduction.
@@dreamingrightnow1174 they keep thinking they can get away with it. This happens a lot more then we think. Only a few cases seem to get all the attention.
@@dreamingrightnow1174 I don't think he thought about getting caught. As for what he would tell his girlfriend, I still think she knows a lot more than she has let one. That's why she deleted the phone information and told him to do the same. We still do not know where she was that Sunday evening or what they talked about for 111 minutes that night before Shanann got home.
I don’t mean this to be creepy but you’re just so darn cute! And so damn smart as well haha :) your videos are truly insightful and really a breath of fresh air :)
Vicki Harder..I thought she was about 13. I wondered why a young teen would be discussing this tragedy. Wow..did I get a surprise from this knowledgeable young woman.
If you watch Louis Theroux: Miami Mega Jail on Netflix, you'll see where CW should really be serving out his time. It was disappointing to hear him sound cheerful, almost content? in the last interview. Then I remembered when my ex (sociop) was arrested and had to stay in jail for several days on a holiday weekend, and how upset I was and worried about him. But when I went to pick him up he presented like he had been away on a weekend with the boys, happy and bragging about how much better he was than the other guys, seen like a guru, helping work people out 😂 , and that he preferred being in places like that because people there saw him as a God. Ugh. I think the measure of a narcissists contentment is simply based on how much supply they get, not a particular environment. They are chameleons anyhow so it would make sense he could adjust to prison rather quickly. I don't think it matters a whole lot to CW that he has no freedom, I think he's turned on by the challenge of finding new ways to manipulate, + he has notoriety + has special treatment + gets fan mail and jailhouse interviews from out of state detectives. He's eating this up. He also gets 'managed', which doesn't seem too far from the dynamics he had with SW or his mother. I appreciate the sweet irony of him initially telling the detectives he killed his wife because he couldn't be himself, and yet he now sits behind bars only as a number. CW has no remorse. He doesn't even bother to fake it... Put him in a real prison and let him fight for his life the way his wife and daughters had to fight for theirs. That's fair.
Very astute perspective!!! The Chameleon...I agree he is in a pampered scenario where he is very safe in his own cell. It’s like a vacation for him in a way. No more worries about his wife or GF having a melt down about something he did wrong... no worries about those nasty bills that they cannot afford to pay and no screaming demanding kids. I bet he isn’t around many other inmates and it’s been said he is with a disabled population or perhaps an elderly population... I’d love to see an interview or tour of where he is in comparison to where other convicted family Annihilators are currently housed long term. something just does not sit right with his location. Why is he so guarded/specially protected ?
Oh they'll go easy on him for a while to make it look good, a nice safe prison with eatable food but somewhere down the road suddenly a transfer and welcome to the real world!😂
@@timeandtide333 that's what I say. Tho recently I was delighted to hear that he was put there for a transitional period... to get him adjusted to prison... they said it was starter facility & they made it sound like he would eventually be transferred. (I think they said you usually stay there 3 or 4 years) Soo... soon then I hope. Lol.
I’m so excited, a new video by my favorite! When I get my grandsons settled I’ll be watching! I get to spend time with my precious boys while my daughter works in the ER and my son in law delivers food in his truck. I am very blessed to have my grandchildren with me. After the catastrophe of murder last August I truly know how blessed I am. God bless the Ruzceks.
JanaeAnn...I am blessed with two grandsons and oh my, the murders make me so emotional, just even thinking about my grandsons ever HEARING some day about how people can be real life monsters...😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞
I am blessed with one granddaughter, she's my first and only grandbaby so far. She came at the perfect time because I lost my mom and grandfather 6 months later and 3 weeks apart. When I first heard of the Watts case it really broke my heart. Looking at my grandbaby and daughter and just thinking, I couldn't imagine what Shanann's parents must be going through. Wow God bless their family. While the Watts went around degrading Shanann, they showed the world what real empathetic and decent people are. They never had a bad thing to say about Chris or their family yet the Watts bashed them everytime they could. Anyway have a great day fellow grandparents.😃
Spot on . Ted Bundy thought he himself was generally a nice guy too . People like these guys are out of touch with themselves and reality , they are not psychotic , but out of touch because they are so unempathetic.
I believe Ted Bundy was more remorseful than Chris could ever be. Maybe remorseful is the wrong word but Ted was fully aware what he did and wanted to understand why. He also seemed remorseful at the end of his life. Some may say it was because he was trying to stay his execution and that might be true. But I also think he was trying to make good of the bad he did. He was trying to help the police and families. He was more accountable than Chris too because he said “society should be protected from him and people like him and that he deserved the max punishment society had to give”. There is NO way you’d hear Chris saying any of that!!!! I think Chris still thinks he should be let out and be free. after all he’s a nice guy. Talk about clueless
I believe CW's regret sounds like, "I had it much better than this & I should have been satisfied with that." That's far from empathy imho. Great video.
IMO - It's all about him: he cares only for himself. I'm pretty sure he detest being in jail, but I don't think he comprehends why he is being punished. He is missing the part of his brain that allows him to reflect upon his horrific actions. I just wish Shan'ann and the children could have gotten safely away before he killed them.
In the police department interview, I could swear that when he admitted to the killings he said, "What are people going to think of me?" Or something like that. He didn't want people to think that he was a monster. This was just after he talked to his dad. He was crying when he made that question.
Yes, I remember that. When the investigators were discussing getting co-workers to take them out to the work site to recover the bodies, he freaked out and started sobbing "Oh God No! Not that!" That's when it hit him that very soon the people he worked with would see what he did. What he did to his family was not the great horror - people finding out what he is was the great horror for him.
@@gtaylor6937 I agree with you. He cared more about his image than the fact that he killed his whole family!Typical ASPD, with NPD thrown in for good measure. Edit: He also asked his mistress if what he did would harm their romance. Ya think?!
@@2manybooks2littletime25 The really amazing thing about this guy is that he sat through all the victim impact statements, the sentencing where the judge said it was the most inhumane, vicious crime he had ever seen, Nicole Kessinger's flight in the night, yet Watts still feels unfairly treated because he's basically a good guy. As long as he tells bedtime stories at night to his murdered children, he'll always believe that. The organism does what has made the organism successful.
Some people who did something this heinous would be absolutely despondent afterwards, and wouldn't want to live. I am struck by his coolness, talkativeness, and these same behaviors in other perpetrators of similar crimes over the years.
Yes, I just revisited the Diane Downs case. I didn't realize the t.v. movie "Small Sacrifices" with Farrah Fawcett was about this case. Her behavior was really something to watch. I understand the surviving daughter testified against the mother, and still, the mother pleads innocent.
Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. Through your analysis of the Chris Watts case I have come to understand narcissistic behavior, which I had recently realized has been a part of my life. I look forward to your future subjects and assessments along with your great content. 😊
This has always been my question. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with the fact that they should've sought help, I just don't know at what point should we expect people to know they need to seek help. Of course, they know murdering is wrong so if they have that thought they should seek help but what about situations that aren't as extreme? At what point is one expected to understand that they need help?
Re being very good at remembering things and not being able to empathize and relate to people...I guess that must have been one of the earliest learned abilities is developing memory as if you cannot respond naturally and you need to hide your lack of ability feel or show you can care like others and to actually come across as caring, you would surely have to develop a very good memory. Again you have answered so many of those small but so important and unanswered questions we have. Thank you so much for you continuing to field and answer our questions. I really get a lot out of it! Do you think his family continues to excuse him and justify his behaviour?
The second question answered about being wired, that was my exact question! Because I ended up with someone who as a child suffered from neglect and abandonment. He once broke his leg as a child and his parents did not take him to hospital for days leaving him in alot of pain. As I entered a relationship with him, i think I fell for him based on empathy and love that he was never given. However, later in his adult life, he became an alcoholic, very abusive and just a general mess. As hard as I tried to help him he refused all treatment and we ended up splitting up. He ended up dying by suicide. I look back and now see all of his narcissistic behaviors. That is Why I struggled with hating him at times and heartbroken over what he became due to his childhood. With the CW case again I had wanted to ask yoy do we empathize with him for turning out as he did? Or hate him for what he did. I do hate him for what he did. He simply wanted a new life. He did not truly love his kids or wife. It is the saddest case I have ever listened to. Thank you so much for answering that question and to the viewer who asked it! ❤
When you watch the unedited police cam video, the amount of smiling, biting his lip to.prevent himself from laughing almost, I feel he has no remorse. He actually appeared to find the situation somewhat funny.
Do you think he treated her so poorly in those final weeks was an effort push her away so this might not happen? Or, did he start treating her and the girls poorly because he had already planned to get rid of his family?
The covered up toy doll he sent Shannon, purporting to be from the children was a massive tell. He was planning mass murder and anticipating the event with pleasure. It was quite sadistic mentally. I wish with all my heart that Shannan had heeded her mother and stayed in NC.
How could Shanaan or anyone safely get out of a relationship like hers? This is such an important question because the most dangerous time for abused women is when they leave a relationship.
Pack her bags and left for her parent's home while he was at work. Stay at her parent's home when she was there. Just leave. The answer to how to get out is to leave.
I so enjoy your insight, and expertise concerning the Watts' case! I remember when Watts was trying to justify that he shouldn't be judged on just one single day of his life, and on just a few of the poorer decisions he made. I believe that he pled guilty believing that he would serve some prison time, but certainly not until the end of his natural life. He now appears to think that he is now qualified to be able to 'counsel' others who he thinks will be in 'worse' situations when incarcerated. Surely, that would never come to fruition, would it?! I hope you are having a lovely week, Sweetie, Sherrey in Southern Ontario🎀
I’m glad you got your technical problems worked out so you can post again. I missed listening to your analysis and kept checking to see if you had posted. I’m relieved you are doing okay!
Live Abuse Free I would like to touch on that 2nd question, from Tori boy,... ‘should we feel sorry for him’,.. your answer was spot on, but I can’t help but think that the underlying question there is referring to truly psychotic, schizophrenic, delusional offenders. Which CW clearly is not. But I think it would helpful for you to speak about those differences. Because people are so apprehensive to accept a true insanity defense, when sometimes it is clear psychosis. i e Andrea Yates. Personality disorder vs true psychosis. A confusing and controversial subject not understood by most people. Thank you. Love your vids.
Most interesting thing about this video, to me, was how you explained that since a young age he had to play both roles....meaning his mask vs. himself. Almost like he was preoccupied with his mask. I’m hoping, in future videos, you will elaborate on this, meaning right when the “split” happens, and how they see the world as “split,” as you describe. ❤️❤️❤️ Love your channel the MOST!!!!!!!
4:50 best advice éver. I wished I learned this earlier. And especially IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU. It happened to me. I was lucky. I never ever expected it. I look very different at people in general now....... I really believe my narcissistic ex is capable of murder if he has to, after everything that happened. I have caught him smirking. And that is disturbing.
My mind always returns to, "I really wonder what she was thinking, what was going though her mind when she consciously realized exactly what he was doing??? Live Abuse Free, do you think that she was genuinely shocked or do you feel that, perhaps even on a subconscious level, it quickly clicked for her? Did she see this coming? At all??
Hi, Melissa, I think Shanann would not let her self believe Chris was dangerous, that's why, in my opinion, she kept asking her friends what they thought. His life with her was a lie from the beginning; that when he was emotionaly drained by his failure to stand up to his strong mother and weak father that the solution to his problem would be to get rid of his married life. "Who does that?" But inmature, weak minded, pathetic individuals. This is why it's so critical to pay attention to our gut feelings, instincts. No matter how things may have appeared in the past. Maybe if after Shanann spoke with her friends if she could have found a quiet area with just herself and come up with a plan to ask her father to come back with her; even if it may have looked or felt silly. For after all, Chris did tell her what he was planning to do to her by sending that picture of the doll under the sheet. If she had forwarded that picture to her dad...and asked him what he thought, might she and her daughters be alive today? Hmmmm...
She knew something was wrong but not what. If she had had any inkling she would never have left the children alone with him to go to Arizona. I knew never to leave my ex alone with our kids.........
Juanita Richards Hi , Juanita nice to see you here . Even if she believed he was messing around , to think he’d kill her .... huge jump . Glad you aren’t with the sob anymore .
@@hippielove3100 I left him in 1984. I KNEW, unlike Shannan, that he would kill us all. He had lost control of me and knew I wanted out. He said all along he would kill me if I ever left him. He used to punish the children to get at me when I no longer responded to his threats and screaming rages. I just ignored him and would leave the room. This sent him over the top. I think he gaslighted Shannan for years and she didn't see it. She got no warning until almost the end, whereas I knew we were in danger for a long time before I was able to get out alive.
@@phabulouss1 Yes. None of them realized the danger she was in. There had been no history of domestic violence. But I think her mother had an inkling. She asked Shannan not to go home with him after the way he treated Shannan and the children in her own parents house.
It is definitely when they cross your boundaries and you feel like they are creeping you out. Listen to your gut and like she says don't be afraid to reject them or embarrass them. Number one is when they don't take "NO" for an answer. "RUN" the other way...
In a very evil way..... he is enjoying all the attention he is getting. Typical of a narcisisst..... they love attention.....no matter how it comes..... He talks as if he has done some great deed.....pathetic
He is very happy when he is getting lots of attention. Wait until the mail slows down and people get on with their lives. The only person he will have is his mama.
He might've gotten away with everything, except Shanann had a good friend who was looking out for her well being and didn't believe for a minute that she'd miss a doctor's appt. CW hadn't thought about someone having genuine feelings getting in the middle of his plans. The early report of the kids and Shanann missing set everything in motion before he had a chance to manage the cover up.
Asperger's have empathy....Narcs show empathy. That is the difference. One actually feels empathy and doesn't show it. The other shows empathy and doesn't feel it.
@@joanbaczek2575 That is what I said. The Narcissist shows empathy without actually feeling empathy. in other words they act out the signs of empathy without actually having the real feelings of empathy. People with Aspy feel real empathy for others. They feel sorry and feel the pain of others. They don't know how to express their feelings. They don't act like they feel empathy, like a Narcissist will act like they feel empathy without really feeling empathy. The difference.
I have recently gone down the rabbit hole with this case recently and I think like most people I just couldn’t wrapped my head around why or how he could do this. After watching your videos and learning about narcissistic behavior it now makes so much sense to me and I can stop obsessing over this case. So I just want to thank you for your insight and knowledge.
What I find interesting is slowly people are moving on from him..forgetting him...that will drive him mad as he gets his supply from this limelight. I will be curious if in a couple of months - if he has a revelation and needs to speak to the cops so he can grab their attention...to make his self "matter"...to get the public to reattach to him again and his ego.
@4:45 this is the most powerful lesson us as survivors must learn. If they’re capable of cruelty with their words or actions, then they try to appear to be “nice/empathic”, then that cruelty that just slipped out is exactly who they really are under the mask. What you witnessed is their masked slipped off, and once they realized they exposed their true selves, they then tried to reattach their fake “nice” persona/mask. Real people can experience lows, but then feel guilt and accept the consequences of their bad behavior, including negative feedback from those they hurt. But a narcissist is constantly fake to win people over, so when they’re mask slips, they simply try to cover their faults with blame, “ignoring the past” (their bad past actions), or they’ll apologize but keep doing what they did (covert narcs), because narcissist are fake and don’t like self-accountability. If you suddenly see their contempt, rage, or you notice their occasional (mask slip) lack of empathy towards others challenges/pain, then that’s who they are. Their fake persona mask is starting to slip, and the monster in them is coming out slowly. See the danger and move on, because someone who is invested in pretending to be nice to win others over while simultaneously showing displays of cruelty, abuse, and a lack of empathy, this person is capable of being a true monster when the you finally completely see through their mask (ie Chris Watts, Brian Laundrie, Myka Stauffer).
This helped me! My dad was absent from my life all my life! I'm 50 and he still makes no attempt 2 have a relationship unless I go to him! I stopped doing that and I feel so guilty because he is so good at making me feel sorry for him. My brother died a couple days ago and my dad had my stepmother call and tell me and now I feel guilty for not calling him! This helps me get perspective and hopefully will help me get over feeling sorry for him. My stepmother called me and told me my brother died and immediately told me I had to pay his funeral expenses. I mailed them a check and I still feel guilty.
Great vid, very informative and edjucating👍. This case is so hard to understand so it's really helpful getting this insight from you on how a twisted mind like CW's works. Off topic: love your accent😊. Greets from Sweden.
Hi, I just love all your videos, you are so interesting and I loved how you shared your experience with us, so we can see all the red flags that one day we might come across, thank you........Wishing you well from Australia 🇦🇺.
Remember when Tami said she lost her child in store and she went panic?? Chris said, “If that happened to me I wouldn’t feel scared or panic...I would know I needed to find them, but no real fear”
shanny potts I know. This was the second confession. I can’t remember the context but the fact that he said he wouldn’t feel fright if he lost his child in public? He acted like it was normal. F R E A K!!
Karrie Dee exactly! I can remember being at the park with my 6 year old daughter, my daycare children and a mom friend. I only took my eyes of children for A few seconds, only to hold my friends newborn. I immediately did my head count of 5 and my daughter and four year old day care girl were missing!! Like you said, I can today, 23 years later tell you just how horrified and panicked I was. My friend took charge of all kids and I was running around park asking if anyone had seen them. When they first showed confusion, I ran to the next person and the next. I was like an insane woman yelling there names out so loud. I was trying my vest to stay calm but all I could see in my mind the possibilities and almost fainted. Barely holding myself up. When it came to seeing my friend with several kids in tow Looking inside parked Cars as well as Standing in street to not let anyone out before she checked the back seat and floorboards! Just when I was about to go down and I was praying HARD! A 10 year old from my group yelled out, “THERE THEY ARE!!” Was music to my ears! I ran to them hugging them and crying which quickly changed to scolding them through my tears. Sorry for the long story, I’m sure every parent here can relate. It’s a fear that most wont ever forget. So, hearing Watts say he wasn’t panicked or worried, he just knew it was his JOB to locate them He was very nonchalant...that statement spoke to his real lack of character.
What do you think about Madeleine McCann’s parents? Never crying for their missing daughter, arrogantly dismissing evidence and being inconsistent and weirdly sarcastic. A lot of people suggest Gerry Mccann is a controlling narcissist who covered up his daughter’s death with no remorse, forcing his wife to lie along with him.
Thank you so much for your insight. I also feel he had no remorse. This may be a dumb question but if a person does feel empathy can they still be a narcissist?
You smiled quite a bit in this video, and it's a "million watt smile"!! Thanks for your unwavering insight. To me, the fact that your comments are always hitting on the same underlying information seems to solidify my trust in your incredibly succinct explanations. I also notice that you look up and around sometimes when you're searching for the right wording for explanations, which also tells me you are thoughtful in what/how you choose to reply to something. Again, I feel as though that shows you're reflecting on your depth of knowledge! Great vid, LAF, you're a gem!
Watts behavior following the horrific murders is enough to indicate he has NO empathy (not to mention the murders he committed). Shannan at one time said Chris is all about Chris. She was not a personality that I think would misrepresent him in the negative, she was programmed to give him credit to keep him content. I believe Chris did not want to pretend to be the guy he presented himself to be any longer, so he murdered Shannan, it was his solution to not keeping up with the charade. He had Kessinger to pretend to, to manipulate.
Agree. As soon as they have a new target to present their false self to for praise and accolades, they no longer need the old one. And they can keep believing in their own mask as long as there is a new host they can attach it to for applause. True parasites.
I went to marriage guidance counseling alone. My ex narc told me that I was the one with the problem and he wouldn't be seeing any counselor. Watts told Shannan the same thing.....
@@maryannenizio4816 I was so young then and full of hope. But the councilor said something that was a shock to me and I wish I had taken heed. She asked me all about the relationship and the problems. Then she asked my why I stayed with him. I replied because I loved him. She said "what is there to love"? Many years later in psychotherapy another shock, every relationship I ever had replicated that I had with my narcissist mother. That was a revelation.....
@@maryannenizio4816 I stopped dating 23 years ago. Last narc break up. Funny thing, after years of depression and anxiety and counseling and therapy........being single and not dating at all has cured all that. I'm the happiest person I know, along with my two middle aged single friends - one a guy. We are all happy while our married friends and those in relationships are all miserable, stressed, anxious and depressed. I wouldn't change my status to go back to all that
@@maryannenizio4816 My sex drive died years ago with menopause. A man would be no use to me. Nor me to him. I've learned to be selfish and take care of me, as nobody else is going to, and I wouldn't trust them anyway. I am my own best friend, never feel lonely or bored. As I got to know myself away from the influence of narcs., I came to find I can't bear clingy needy people. I'm truly independent in my own right. And narcs all are clingy and needy, although they try to project that onto us........
I so look forward to listening to your vidoes and looking forward to your next upload. Its so hard to believe this guys has no remorse its very hard to comprehend that. Yes he said about well if people jusdge me on this one act or something to that effect as if he committed a minor offence! Thanks again for your vlogs they are just so interesring. Greetings from Scotland
Only recently found this but brilliant insight and makes total sense of what sort of person he was. Totally alien to a proper loving father like myself.
I agree with Chris Watts was an adult and did have the capacity to seek help as an adult. He knew and knows right from wrong. He held a job and knew what to do to keep it based on performance or to stop at a red light or stop sign, whether someone was looking or not. He lived everyday life outside of his killing his family and knew how to behave. Right from wrong he knew. It is how he feels in the 'right' or the 'wrong' is what mattered and matters to all Narcissists, in my opinion, and the need to self-regulate.
And yet he did something that made no sense in a bigger picture- talking from his perspective: how did he imagine his life after killing his family? Just move on with a relation with NK? It doesn't make sense at all, is he that stupid to think he could get away with it and Shannan family just accept the fact she disappeared... He must be completely detached from the reality. I am not sure if anyone asked him the question what was his plan after. Or does he feel any guilt now. Such questions could tell a lot about him.
I’m worried. My ex has displayed no empathy. Just entitlement and getting sadistic pleasure when he’s upset me and when he’s upset our children. It’s all psychological and emotional abuse though so hard to prove and protect us. He’s been aggressive, but behind closed doors’ and typically has an amazing public image which he’d use against me in order to deter me calling him out! Everyone thinks he’s wonderful, whilst we’re scared.
Chris Watts had that shallow look. There was no depth in his eyes. I’ve seen it in 18 and older students in juvenile detention school. I was afraid of them so was cognizant of my movements near them. Not all, some. Some asked if I thought of them as criminals. Most needed to have been born in a better family. It was the most profound, poignant job I’ve had and the experience I’m most grateful for because it changed me.
My opinion is in his last interview was to fill his need for his "supply". There will be more because as a narcissist he needs to continuously need for the supply and the "I am in control" mask.
When you watch the unedited police cam video, the amount of smiling, biting his lip to.prevent himself from laughing almost, I feel he has no remorse. He actually appeared to find the situation somewhat funny.
Alan Whelan I thought the same thing , in the bedroom he gives this huge smile and holds it . Goosebumps when I watched it . He was thinking I can get away with this .
@@hippielove3100 yeah that smile in the bedroom lasted longer than was comfortable. I kept wondering what that police officer was making of it, it made me uncomfortable just watching it.
I agree. Think it’s called “Duper’s Delight”. He was also communicating with the mistress during that period of time too. Still obsessing over her even at that crucial time. Repulsive creature.
Thank you so much for this one!☝️ I cannot empathize enough that HE either DID this or watched someone else take the collective lives of his wife & children. You know what my job is, Zoe, & I feel as if I am constantly having to be the “reality-bell 🛎 reminder” that THIS MAN IS A KILLER‼️ Of course he’s GREAT at making people believe he is this other guy, “Mr. Nice” or “I had 1 bad day but i am still a GOOD person”. Ugh..ugh 😑 No‼️🙅♀️ He is an expert manipulator‼️ He’s gotten thru life by making others BELIEVE that he is normal & has REAL feelings. He DOESN’T‼️🙆♀️(Well, perhaps for himself, the only time he cries or pretends to is FOR HIMSELF, eh⁉️) Btw - I am happy to hear you are interested in other cases. I am ready to derail this “Watt-Cho-cho” train 🚂 too. By a long-shot! BUT then something grabs my attention that I had not seen before 🙄 ...However, I am ready to for a final stop! 🛑 Perhaps ready to start writing the book I am meant to write. We’ll see❗️🤷♀️ I am getting past being “behind the scenes” & (nearly) ready to tell my OWN story. As it’s sooo late now in U.K., I will say what I have always said to my children in the morning: “Morning Sunshine ☀️☀️☀️”‼️ Lol 😂 Have a great day‼️Hey & get some actual sunshine☀️for ME since I am not allowed to go out sun☀️shine (Systemic Lupus)‼️💜💜💜Angelina💜💜💜
I don’t think many with these personality disorders even know they have anything wrong with them. I’m 37 and recently got diagnosed with anti social personality disorder and it took months of dealing with mental health team and consultant psychiatrist here in the UK and going over and over my life events from childhood to present day. Had all blood work done to rule out whatever as anyone in NHS knows they do blood work etc. ASPD has left me with a huge trail of destruction and burnt bridges in my life. Lost jobs, failed university several times, failed relationships and on and on. It was a shock to be told I had a personality disorder. Many probably have no idea they suffer with one. Chris’s watts is a monster and deserves to suffer for all he did. I also came from an abusive childhood. Maybe that wired me to be the way I am? Either way I go to my therapy and support group.
If you listen to a channel called “The Diplomat” in part 6 of his reading of the ‘The Discovery’....when the police came with the dogs at 11:45am on the day after the murders (the 14th) Chris had a sports channel on on the TV. 🧐
It was the ultimate discard, he just didn’t want that life anymore and got rid of it in the most final way possible; he was so narcissistic he thought he’d get away with it. Did he really think that no one would notice they were gone or that people would just stop asking questions? He has no remorse, he hated his wife and kids...absolutely hated them. His silent anger, resentment and hidden rage ran very, very deep and it had been growing for a long time. OK, Shanann was bossy and splashed their life across Facebook....so divorce her then! He wanted to play with his new toy and his family were in the way. There is no way to justify what he has done. If he has regret, it is only because he’s locked up for life. He does not want his family back and I believe he is still glad they are gone. Great video...you really understand narcissism. My narcissistic ex once told me if he had not left his wife, he would have killed her. I actually sometimes wonder if I will see him on the news one day. Anyway, Chris Watts is a child in a man’s body.
