I remember back then, in the UK at least, RU-vid was THE place to go for on demand TV. Full episodes of pretty much any recent comedy and most of the older ones, it was way more popular than iPlayer and 4OD.
Oh man, these Sopranos comments are totally a world of its own. I mean it's totally a different sphere and this comment you wrote is fucking brilliant.
No, you don’t understand the meaning of “loose cannon.” I’m not doubting they lack empathy or morality. I’m saying a lot of them are more careful than the Christopher character. How is this hard to understand?
@nickys34 Aaron has it right, Ricky. Psychopath/sociopath aren't unbalanced by necessity. Some of them maybe by personality, but often the coldest people are the straightest thinking because they don't need to consider things like hurting people's feelings. That doesn't make them crazy, just monsters.
@nickys34 I agree. Watching the show, Tony, Paulie, Ralph and Richie have all shown themselves as loose cannons too. You also could add Tony B and Feech La Manna. The only ones who seemed sensible enough to me were Silvio and Bobbie.
+SuperPunch76 Of course not, but I'd be surprised if he was even 41 in this episode. And turns out that he's 51, a DECADE older than Michael Imperioli!
Poor JT, he was so close to waking up one morning to read that Christopher had been killed in a car crash and therefore he was now free and safe. He probably would have gone out and got high to celebrate
i love how complex david chase makes his characters, you feel sympathy for Christopher with his addiction, being teased by tony and the crew. but than because he cant get the pity he wants he shoots j.t. showing his characters root is deeply evil
Just amoral. Chris never felt anything about the murders he had to commit, bc he always had the perfect excuse ("I must be loyle to my capo") like how Tony blames all of his actions on his mother or some other asshole.
JT had gotten himself back on his feet. His debts were cleared, he had projects he was working on, he was properly back in his writing game. Christopher showing up was the last thing he needed or wanted. JT's 'Chris! You're in the Mafia!' comment carried the meaning that he wanted nothing more to do with Christopher - thus in Chris's mind, he became a liability in a split second; a rejection he couldn't handle. I actually feel sorry for JT. He was smart enough to learn that he didn't want Chris in his life anymore, but telling Chris while he was out of his mind was the worst way to do it.
but he should have a little bit of self-awareness if not empathy. This guy he deals with that he KNOWS is dangerous, is coming to him relapsed drunk, and emotional. This is gonna sound fucked up, but anybody who's been in an abusive relationship knows that this is not the time to stand up for yourself or risk abuse. You got to manage and get him out of there. Not saying that this wouldn't have happened later, but at least give yourself another day.
When Christopher killed him like that, it made me sick. Chris was a POS for beating Andrea, but this was even worse. That being said, I never understood why JT didn't move away from the area to get away from this sociopath.
@@speedking7224 says more about the audience than about David Chase. He knows people would effectively disregard their criminal acts because they like the characters. He’s trying to show that these people are cold blooded sick killers, and the audience needs reminders of that or they’ll just side with the villains
This scene alone pretty much confirms my theory that Christopher is a member of the mafia. It's subtly hinted at throughout the show, but this scene alone confirms my suspicion.
@@thesportsguy126 Even Bacala was changed by then. After he killed that French guy, he became more ruthless. Charmaine Bucco is pretty much the only character with a moral backbone in this show. Yeah, she could be a real bitch to Atie, but didn't compromise for wealth or a cushier life by cow-towing to Tony or his cronies. Everyne else was more or less corrupted and got worse during the series.
@@AJ-pw8xg in what way? Not wanting to hear Christopher’s bitching about his sociopathic mob friends? JT had his own things to deal with in life and soon realised Christopher was trouble. Then killing him in cold blood smh.
The moment any hint of redemption went away for Chris. After all his emotional problems his addictions and Adrianna he is just a low life murderer. This show is epic!
Once again scenes like this drive home the point that despite the moments of humanity, Tony and his guys are a bunch of lowlifes at the end of the day. JT was probably his only real friend and he straight up killed him in cold blood.
He knows his life and just spilled his guts out when he showed up drunk and all JT did was confront and he argued with Chris, even went as far as to say You're in the Mafia. Chris did what he had to do to cut loose ends even while complaining about his boss, Tony. Loyalty to the family is what you're missing here.
Shell casing don't solve a crime LOL. "Yo officer brown, looks like 9mm - the most widely used caliber in the world. Lord knows this case is half solved!"!
@@StudioMod Yo Officer Brown, Ballistics dude says striker pin mark on the shell casing is a perfect match for the pistol we found at Moltisante's. Looks like a day in court for him...
The pin mark on the casing? You mean the same pin model and shape in all guns of that brand and caliber? You mean the same pin mark that hits every shell? How different do you think they get? They're a thin, simple, pointy rod, not a complex fingerprint; you'd need other evidence for that to corroborate, because that's garbage as lead evidence.
JT's character might have been the funniest part of the Sopranos. Every year, the Sopranos would be neck and neck with the Law & Order for Golden Globes, Emmy's, etc. So the Sopranos introduced a Law & Order writer as a character, gave him and drug habit, drinking problem, and a gambling problem. He got beat up again and again, and then forced to ghost write Little Carmine's movie. Then when the Sopranos was winding down, he got tied off like so many other loose ends. "Guess you aren't gonna win an Emmy this year, are you JT?"
Could JT have been a bit more sympathetic? Absolutely. Did he deserve to get whacked for telling Chris that he doesn't want to hear his dirty secrets? Hell to the no. The man is a fellow recovering addict, trying to get his shit together, and Chris was too butthurt to see that.
If Christopher stayed alive and didn’t get killed off by Tony, I’m pretty sure he would’ve ratted everybody out to the Feds because he was sick of the way they treated him.
@@TheMaleRei uhhh chris would def NOT have told Tony "yeah hey, I just told my buddy that I considered witness protection and about adriana, ralph, etc" lol wtf
Killings on The Sopranos are common and not usually surprising but this killing took me totally by surprise. It goes to show that a mobster will kill for reasons that aren't even business related. Chris felt disrespected and that was all the reason he needed to kill J.T. whether he was drunk or sober.
No, it was business related. Chris killed him after J.T pointed out that Christopher told him to much. Christopher realized this, and killed him to prevent him going to the cops
He was also deeply hurt, you can see it in his eyes after he tells him hes in the mafia! A combo of a typical misunderstanding of a drunk person by a sober person, and the fact that JT basically told Chris he wasnt even relatable on a human level. Chris has been desensitized to many things, as has JT. This is typical of an addict, but theres always the paranoid notion that one has been through much worse than anyone else and cant be fully understood. JT confirms this by basically saying 'youre a killer, even im not that bad'
Chris killed him because he came to realize JT wasn't really his friend and that everything he had just told JT could lead to his death should JT tell people or write about it in a law and order episode that's why he popped him the moment he said he's in the Mafia, it woke Chris up from his drunkenness and gave him clarity that JT can't be trusted
Chris killed him because he wanted to murder someone. He was made fun of at the Bing but he can't kill those guys because it would expose him. So he takes out his rage on JT. Chris went to JT's to kill him outright. He was a psycho. He was just looking for a punching bag. He basically tells JT about murders and hits to set JT up as a potential threat to pass the information to the police. This is why JT immediately tells Chris to stop talking about his business life. He knows he can kill JT without repercussion and it will boost his self esteem after being openly mocked at the Bing by his 'friends'. Really Chris wants to whack Tony but he can't do it because it would collapse his entire life. After killing JT his life is back to 'normal' because JT isn't made. He shoots JT because it makes him feel good about himself temporarily.
"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of my enemies where the authorities will never find them."
I just finished the Sopranos and I think that this is the touchstone of the entire series. This is a prime example of perfect television. This killed me.
This was one scene where you get reminded these are horrible human beings. Also the scenes with the waiter in the parking lot, that dude Vito crashes into while on the run, the Canadian drummer doing laundry and the dude Big Pussy runs into at the party store. Probably forgot one two 🤔
I'm a recovering alcoholic whose fell off the wagon a couple times so I can relate to this scene a lot (though I never murdered anyone lol). Brilliant writing from the show creators and amazing acting from Michael Imperioli.
I always found it really interesting how they put this character in the show. JT never takes Chris seriously until he beats on him, then he realizes oh shit this is real. His character is TV writer, it’s almost as if Sopranos is speaking to its audience. How they’re writers and it’s fiction, but these people really do exist and if you were to cross paths with them, it could end up like this.
Tim Daly is a great actor. I remember reading about this scene in a retrospective article. He posed his feet like that after he dropped to the floor to show off the fact that he was wearing white over-the-calf tube socks, and that they were utterly filthy on the bottoms. He said it added to the realism, and helped make him seem like an actual guy you would know in real life.
I remember seeing this scene on HBO in a hotel one night after never having watched the show before, and was like "damn, I've only seen three minutes of this and I think this could be the greatest show ever..."
My opinion is that the last thing he said to chris was exactly what led to his death, in other words he reminded chris that he shouldn't have said anything to him about his criminal life drunk or otherwise (especially about going into witness protection) and that he needed to rectify the situation.Which he promptly did and in no uncertain terms.
no. he knew jt was a liability as soon as he opened his mouth about ratting. he needed someone to talk to and selfishly used jt to vent his shit while in the back of his mind he knew hed b creating a liability outta jt. if jt didnt say ur in the mafia chris most likely still woulda killed him
+Santo Williams Then Tony would send a hit squad on you for killing a made guy in his crew. You're dead anyway. To avoid this, don't associate with criminals.
@@_baller No it's not. A corporation don't have heart, loyalty, and friends that would die for you or if you got sick help your family pay bills. It's a triangle from the old country. Learn your history. Plus their is no Mafia!
He was dead no matter what. The second Chris started talking about murders his life was OVER. He might not have died there. But sometime later Chris would need to take him out because he drunkenly cried out loud about Ralph and Adriana. JT knew it as well. That Chris was exposing him to murders and told Chris to stop talking.
When you mix and mingle with the mob, don’t expect to be unscathed. When JT started borrowing money from Chris, he included himself in ‘this thing of ours’, whether he acknowledged it or not.
People hugely misinterpreted this scene for some reason. He disrupted the glass house Chris built and used to justify the entirety of his house and hurt his ego and pride. Chris killed him for those reasons and out of spite as if to say "right I'm a cold blooded mafioso watch". Not because he realized he said too much lol. He was scared of Chris and Chris knew it so he wouldn't go and try to turn his people against him
ALLEN JOHNSON: Good for you sir. I’d also feel a lot safer to have a tiny camera near my front door and check it to see who it is. Also, keep a piece nice and handy, also make sure I call the cops and let them know the description of the man, just in case they’re a rampant burglar or some shit.
I realize now that Im older, when you comply with evil, it has the right to take you wherever it wants to. So moral to story, know there are consequences when dealing with the devil. Im grateful Im still alive because I dated and pissed off a daughter of a mob attorney. I look back and wonder in another parallel universe did I ever get that knock on the door. You can get lost in the romance of it all.
I think Chris was definitely motivated by the booze and emotions but being told he was in the mafia by a civilian was what got JT killed. He made himself a liability at least in Chris’ mind by confronting him that way.
He was pretty much screwed the moment Chrissy alluded to snitching. His fate was sealed the moment Chris mentioned Adrianna and Ralph. Even if he didn't respond like an idiot, Chris will eventually have realised that he said enough to JT to get both of them clipped. Unfortunately, JT was never that important to Chris to begin with
This scene was nothing more than to set up Chris as the bad guy so you wouldn’t feel too bad when tony kills him the next episode......ironically JT would have been able to tell you that....being a tv writer.
Well...JT should have known better. You make friends with a mobster, you dont antagonize them. A moment of angry impulse could mean your death. JT should have just patronized Chris. Hey man, you are right. How can I help you? Ok yeah that's a great idea Chris! Yeah you may get into deep trouble later on but you are saving your life ATM. Its a mistake you made a friend with that criminal in the first place.
> You make friends with a mobster, you dont antagonize them. True, but real-life mobsters aren't quite this stupid. At least, the ones who make it to the "schmoozing with the money people" level aren't this stupid. It would have taken two seconds to trace this Murder One to Chris Moltisanti, and that could have flipped him, and then the entire crew would be at risk. In real life, Tony Soprano probably would have been forced to exile or execute Chris for this dumbo move.
Chris never could learn to just not give a fuck what people think. It's ironic how this is the episode before Tony kills him, I wonder if this could somehow trace back to Chris or the family because the general public is going to find it fishy how the writer for a film that was worked on by several mobsters shows up dead with a bullet to the temple days before Chris is found to be dead. They never really clarified, just a thought
+I Killed Tony Soprano The Cleaver story line had a lot of plot holes, it felt completely unresolved the writer were hurrying to the finish line of the Mob war.
JT telling Chris he’s in the mafia was Chris knowing that one day he could tell the cops all the stories he said .. plus he didn’t want to be his friend so he was a stranger that knows his secrets .. that’s why Chris killed him.
He is a great actor. I remember reading about this scene in a retrospective article. He posed his feet like that after he dropped to show off the fact that he was wearing white tube socks, and that they were utterly filthy on the bottoms. He said it added to the realism, and helped make him seem like an actual guy you would know in real life.
"Chris, you're in the mafia." He's instantly reminded that he can employ the quick, cowardly solution that all mobsters and weaklings without a conscience turn to: just whip out a gun and kill whomever irritates you.
I think the quick, cowardly solution was shown by JT. He reminded Chris that he could basically snitch on him at any time. That is cowardly. What Chris did was just a business decisoin in response to that. Also, not everyone that kills or doesn't have an overwhelming conscience is a coward. The fact of the matter is, it takes balls to kill someone. Someone who never has or never could would obviously try and paint the killer as somehow morally wrong. Classic Nietzsche
@@DonVito_ You're wrong about it taking balls to kill someone, takes nothing it's like squashing a bug or ringing a chickens neck. life is fragile and its is easier to simply kill who you see as a problem then to actually be able sit down and come to understanding with someone that takes strength not killing.
People in the comments saying Chrissie killed him because he disrespected him. No he kills him because he’s barely able to make any meaningful connection with anyone outside of the family because of the secrecy. He also can’t get close to anyone inside the family because the lifestyle is too dangerous for him as an addict. It’s at this moment that JT snaps at him that he realizes he’s totally and utterly alone in a world that is completely suffocating any remaining humanity out of him. I think it’s poetic that Chris died of asphyxiation by Tony’s hand, pretty great metaphor for his life.
Yeah if there’s one thing the Sopranos taught me (besides the fact that Tony never had the makings of a varsity athlete) and that’s to NEVER get involved with gambling. If you are going to gamble, make sure it’s some type of pay up front type situation and never gamble anything more than you can afford to lose. Or just play it safe and don’t gamble at all. It’s addicting.
