Chris Williamson Confesses To Douglas Murray About Sargon Of Akkad Episode 

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"I'd become so ignorant as to where the goalposts were, I didn't even know what game I was playing." That is the explicit goal of both Critical Theory and communist subversion tactics.

Carl Benjamin is honestly a really important and a deserved voice missing from public discourse. The guy is the goat and knows this like the back of his hand; could easily have a great indepth discussion amongst the Murrary's and Peterson's of public discourse. He seriously needs to be amongst these people and help push these ideas further.

As an ex Guardian reader I can confirm what Douglas is saying, they often lie or omit facts deliberately to skew a narrative their way and once you see it you question every story and the whole organisation loses credibility and you only read it in a "Wtf are they saying now" now way.

"....If I was a young man or young woman , growing up with an ordinary level of incuriosity..." Describes every single "friend" I have. I hate my friends a lot. I literally cry that they are the only ones I have right now. Yes, I know I can make new ones but it's bloody hard finding curious people. University did a number on most of us. I only escaped this woke mentality by what I can only describe as the grace of God.

I'd like to hear Douglas and Sargon chat.

I enjoy listening to Douglas Murray. He always gets his viewpoint across in a way I couldn't

Demoralization Destabilization Crisis Normalization

Honestly, good in you for being honest and straightforward. You didn't have to admit a mistake, but you did, publicly. That takes character, and courage. You're growing. It's good to see. Keep it up lad.

Anyone here in 2024, laughing because somehow it got even crazier?

It gives me perspective on something I heard all the time growing up in a conservative Christian Church: "We ought to obey God, rather than men." If we base our morals on the fleeting whims of culture, we can easily get lost. We need to find those first principles that we know to be true and use them as the lense to view the times that we currently live in.

Autopsy showed Floyd had massive amounts of methamphetamine in his system at the time of death.

"When you realise what is bullshit in the Guardian vs what is real life...." possibly the best quote anyone has ever uttered ever. And I'm a casual Guardian reader...

This was my favorite part of the podcast, it was so honest and relatable. When I am going for a walk and talking on the phone I'm apprehensive about what I will discuss publicly. When we are censoring ourselves they have won.

I am really glad I found this channel. This kid is very smart and very real. He doesn't pretend to know everything and he asks excellent questions. Subscribed and shared!

I don't think Derek killed the guy. The drugs killed good old george.

I love Douglass always finds a way to state things in a generous but unincindiery way

Without boundaries, we don't know where we are. Literally we cannot navigate life and that will always lead to chaos.

I used to think much the same way. Largely I think because I watched a lot of TYT. Luckily, because I watched TYT, RU-vid recommended me some Dave Rubin videos too...

"Avoid people who are not aware of their own paradoxes" - Some Tarot Card Translated from German to Dutch to English :P

We live in an age where truth is seen by a highly vocal and organised minority as evil. We need to push back and be brave in the face of misrepresentation and manipulation.

Subscribed based on the first 2 minutes alone. Good on you for seeing the faults in your thought process and trying to fix them.

Amazing clip. I’m so glad I saw this.

Douglas Murray only needs a cigarette pack rolled into the sleeve of his shirt to complete his look 👌🤟😎

It’s good that he’s being honest

This channel is a gem.

Thanks for calling out the press! As an American, I think other countries must have a skewed idea of us, because there are so many important issues that the press refuses to cover, along with the things that are deliberately misleading. Not sure how that started- I noticed around mid 00s that reporters' opinions were making their way into news articles, and now it's expanded and taken over most of the mainstream media.

Love Mr. Murray, I wish more people had his courage to speak up about the nonsense in western civ.

How is America the most militarized police force... and not say North Korea or China? .... Seems like a big call to make...

Great wake up moment for both of you! That is why Sargons content is that important! He is waking people up!

much respect to chris for saying this and Douglas for the great description and and sensible conclusion that must be said and shared

I want more of this on your channel. Nuance and honesty in a world where media uses heightened emotional leveraging is needed.

Here’s the goalpost: -Accuse you of looking out for your own best interest -Shame you for taking a stance against things that were designed to hurt you -Make you plead that you really don’t have your own best interest at heart (ie “I swear I’m not racist!”)

I don't understand what this has to do with Sargon.

How can this man be so wise? bless him

it is amazing how freely and easily you can disparage an entire group of people with no consequence or even with praise by the mainstream

The speed at which we adopt new viewpoints and new information, sometimes without even realising it is a big factor.

Moving goal posts is indeed the popular sport of the day. Very good observation.

I wonder why this clip is cycling again after 3 years. It's a great one

Douglas, you sense maker! What a wonderfully intelligent and well-informed individual you are!

That was very well said sir - Drive this message home....

Douglas, you choose your words so carefully and that is why you are so widely respected. I do wish you would reconsider your assertion that George Floyd was killed, at least until the trial of the police officer is over. Mr Floyd died, it is yet to be established whether he was killed. Your words influence the thinking of others.

i remember that interview and that you were somewhat aggitated (with yourself), glad you gave yourself the time to self-reflect on why and found the answer

Hum, I think I will head over and check out his channel. Thanks for including the link to his channel.

"Growing up with an ordinary level of in-curiosity .." wow what a line!

I like to see what's on Murray's bookshelves so I can educate myself (and hopefully I can become a little wiser). At least I've done some Solzhenitsyn already.

One thing I've learnt in my experience discussing and debating issues that I'm passionate about, or that have the ability to evoke some kind of reasonably strong emotion from me is that your emotional state really, really does matter much more than most people give it credit for. We've all heard of "feels over reals" but this is more than just a meme, and *all* of us are susceptible to trying to justify our emotional feelings when discussing an issue as a priority before dealing with cold hard facts. It's extremely helpful to remember that while emotions are an essential part of our being, they are at once the primary driver for our actions and thoughts while also not being reliable. Sometimes emotions are caused by something external and "real" where it is easy to link the emotion to a rational source (e.g. I'm really sad because my dog died). But emotions can also be a result of so many more things: hormones, drugs, etc. that can cause emotional states with no clear cause. But, in these cases our brains will always strongly desire to invent a cause, no matter how irrational it may be. I've suffered from random panic attacks in my life, that I can physically feel beginning to occur in my body before any emotional anxiety presents itself. But when the emotional anxiety inevitably arrives, despite *knowing* this anxiety has no reasonable cause, my brain simply will not accept that for the duration of the panic attack. I will be physically incapable of actually believing that the anxiety is unwarranted while I am experiencing it. The best I can do, is make a rule not to act on that anxiety. And wouldn't you know it, half an hour later I'm thinking normally again and every thought I had while suffering from the panic attack seems completely mental. Anyway, the point is that there's a reason that emotional appeals are incredibly effective in any argument involving people. If you can make someone feel a way, by any means, legitimate or not, all you then need to do is provide them with a convenient reason they are feeling that way and chances are they will believe it, even if it is insane to believe. We are all susceptible to emotional manipulation (save, maybe, sociopaths) and we cannot escape it. The best thing we can do is not be afraid that changing what we believe over time somehow makes us hypocritical or unprincipled, and also maybe be aware that there are very few convictions worth ruining your life for. Because chances are one day you might look back and think "that was stupid."

Credit for your reflection Chris. Douglas is great.

I love the hypothetical he posed, because it implies two things if it's true: 1. Immigrants who dream and work their butts off to come to the US are making a huge mistake, because we're xenophobic gun toting crazies. 2. People who have means would leave the US ASAP, even if to Canada (some love threatening to do this and never do, of course). Or...the whole narrative is bull. Occam's razor.

If Floyd stayed in the back seat of the patrol car where he was most safe, he may have survived the fentanyl-induced hysteria. Though being in custody AGAIN may have set it off. There's evidence of his cries of not being able to breathe well before he was on the ground. A tragedy yes, but the police were also waiting for a transport vehicle to arrive.

Just found your channel love your prospective

I’m glad you talk about this because this incident with Sargon was my first impression of you.

The technique described is called gaslighting, and it’s an abuse tactic.

I have to touch on Douglas' characterization of Tony Abbott. As an Australian who lived through Tony's 'reign', we got the witness a few things: The first was Abbott going to bat for Cardinal Pell: a convicted child-molester, at the time the country's senior Catholic official, and who over the years continually helped facilitate the sheltering of other abusers, as well as presiding over the validity of the claims of countless others. Tony facilitated the now-legendary neutering of Australia's National Broadband Network, at the behest of Rupert Murdoch. The most critical infrastructure project in the country for the coming century, and it was completely destroyed by political grandstanding. He opposed gay marriage, endorsed religious zealotry, denied climate change and had so many instances of showing himself to be a low quality human being, that they're too numerous to name. I can't for the life of me understand why Douglas would endorse his character. I'm currently reading 'The Madness of Crowds', and while he makes largely exceptionally cogent, well-researched points that I often find myself agreeing with, I absolutely can not get behind political tribalism, where we will support abhorrent human beings, just because they may sit in line with our mutual distaste of the extreme left. I hope to see Douglas reflect on that statement a bit in coming times, and perhaps look a bit more into Abbott's past before making further endorsements of his character.

I wish I could hang out with Douglas Murray. He’s just a so cool. His takes are so measured.

Great episode. Douglas Murray is very nuanced and meticulous in his speech.

I am on the side of "the guy who killed Floyd." Unless you mean Floyd.

4:40 Chances of getting shot on duty, as a police officer in the US, are 196 times higher than in my country (yes that's the correct number). No wonder they are on edge.

I love when he says "that's not on..."

It is almost impossible to find the frame of discussion these days. That is a huge huge problem and it is amazing we can all talk as we can now without being completely confused lol bless

I do this from time to time. In certain situations, from time to time, I get very careless with what I say and later, sometimes days later, I feel this anxiety I can't find the source of then I realize it's something I said in passing that I for sure didn't mean the way I think it might have been taken. Very odd how your subconscious can do that.

I respect your observations and opinions but hot damn that title was clickbait.

Douglas of course you are right. They know it. It's all about power.- not justice, not honesty.

I have tremendous respect for Sargon. Watched his channel all the time back when he was pushing out amazing educational political commentary. His intellectual depth and honesty is up there with the best.

Incredibly lucid remarks from douglas

The last time i was this early to the comments we still had a democracy and rational thought.

Well said as always Mr. Murray.

In the movie "Bridge Of Spies", Rudolph Abel says "What's the next move when you don't know what the game is?"

I could tell you were a little nervous, but it was hard to tell. I remember admiring your bravery to speak on it at all. I know I wouldn't have been as together, coherent, and comfortable myself as I saw you. You're doing great. ❤👍

Anthropologist Henry Harpending noted that concepts like "systemic racism" are quite similar to African conceptions of witchcraft, which differ from European traditions of witchcraft in being woozier in causality: no intent need, just bad thoughts.

There are moments when Douglas Murray is speaking when I swear I hear the same speaking rhythm with which Dylan Moran speaks. It’s brief, something in the pause, something in the production of the thoughts he is expressing. It’s ever so slight.

Murray being brilliant as usual.

It’s really not that “peculiar” here in the US. It’s pretty straightforward the plan to divide and conquer all along and here we are. ✌🏻♥️🙏🏽

Going a bit clickbaity, here? I didn't see how this is "about" Sargon.

Yes, he's all of those things, Douglas.

Bravo! Those things have to be said.

The 90 people that put a dislike to this must not like the truth.

Floyed died of a drugs overdose

not sure if the title of this video is that correct? but the point made was terrific.

i felt the same looking at that episode for the first time

It's always very difficult to overcome a first impression.

Dont trust the Guardian got it.

Thank you

Importance of history. Remember who you are, how you got here, and what you want.

I hope Douglas comes back to the UK soon. We need people like him active in our culture.

good of you to rescind on your own opinions and words, it's very hard to do that and is a sign of real character

Tony Abbott does have a leaning towards those negative character traits. In Australia he has been our most unpopular prime minister. Tony is old school but he is still a very caring person and those leanings are a valid evaluation of part of his dispositions.

Flexibility is their goal. Jump when they say jump.

Douglas Murray - the voice against widespread dysfunction and cognitive dissonance.

Thank you both. Period.

Well said.

that was very considerate. but i have to say: getting into it so far (with so much emotion). it's not that much to ask to do a little bit of research on your own. it really is impressive that the whole narrative relies so heavily on "believe" if looking it up is so easy these days.

This is great. We all need to really take it seriously how disorienting everything is and how chaotically, and quickly it is changing. An example; I'm from the Twin Cities where George Floyd happened. In the first ten days, it was so unknown and such a shock wave that most of us only knew what was happening physically right in front of us, and I went all over the cities to different pockets. The ONLY event that happened that can be considered a riot was the overnight burning of the third precinct and chaos on Lake St surrounding all that. Daytime in the hotspots was dramatically different, it was oddly peaceful and like a beautifully chaotic, self-creating giant block party. My dad called me 3 days in petrified that I was in the midst of it and everyone was getting fucked up. But it was so peaceful, more than usual! He was not happy with the situation because he was concerned about riots, which weren't happening. Days after the riot ended on its own, the national guard flooded everywhere and attacked anybody and everyone. I had to explain to my dad that his perception was totally skewed. Social justice faded into nothing because it suddenly felt like we were all together on a military lock-down by the government. It is no wonder to me that this fueled the social justice fanatics and revolutionary Antifa/black block groups. And the HIGH of that energy of so many people building and setting up totally new things- like a makeshift stage in the target parking lot, block parties, barbeques, music; it was like a dream world. A lot of people didn't want to lose that high. And at the same time, many of us had limited or no phone & internet communications, and all transportation services were completely shut down. You only knew what was happening if you physically got yourself there.

Call those movements what they are: injustice movements. They use terms like Social Justice and Racial Justice as camouflage. To make people think that they're about actually achieving justice when they're just about creating and propping up a specific form or type of injustice. Because anything that modifies justice, no matter how good it sounds, is injustice. And I'm not talking about mercy. Mercy is part of justice. Mercy is about looking at the situation with clear eyes and seeing that the normal punishment is unjust and then acting so that there is a just outcome.

Well said Doug

William admitted to being scared & that's no easy feat. I love Douglas Murray as he's typically on target.

I was completely had by the Floyd case. I was fuming and calling for Chauvin to be given the chair, but Chauvin didn't kill Floyd. He failed to give him any medical attention while he was under his care and should be punished for that but the cause of death was unrelated to Chauvin's method of restraint. Watching the bodycam footage of them struggling to get Floyd into the squad car and letting him wriggle out the other side was maddening. If they had been tougher on him and kept him in the car maybe he would be alive today.

I can hear the name drops in Billingham!

Thank you to both of you Chris and Douglas for bringing up some great subjects. I also believe we have to all keep talking even if we have different opinions. If you live in a democracy do we not just have to keep talking so we can come together, also to keep our democracy. I agree with the goal posts because it is getting so confusing. I am worried the kids with this....and I am serious. I will be glad when the vaccine is available for all of us. It would be nice to have things a little more trusting than this. Misogyny does not belong to every male. My Goodness. Our country also has RACIAL problems but we don't have to. Love you guys...Keep talking please...I do know Americans as these are our friends and neighbors. What happened to George Floyd was not right in any way, but to over-react is so out there that logic is no where in sight with that......Ii know piles of people that are not RACISTS, as they don't even believe in RACE. At least that is how I see it. Thanks....Carolyn D Hogarth

Love Mr. Murray!