Topics People Are Too Afraid To Talk About - Douglas Murray | Modern Wisdom Podcast 219 

@@GodsOwnPrototype Define Native.

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q same way as we have native NZ (Māori); native Japanese; native Americans, such as Navajo; and so on.

@@enzedbrit ok so tell me what's a native Brit. How far back we going. I am descendant from Scandinavia. However there also Roman descendants e.t.c. are we considering them all native.

q did I not just give you your answer? If you acknowledge your ancestors come from elsewhere and know when it happened, you’re not native. If the arrival of your ancestors in your land is lost to time or has become myth, then you’re native. JUST LIKE MĀORI, Japanese, Navajo, etc! Want to ask me the same question again? If you’ve got mixed heritage, as most people have, embrace it. Being native isn’t diluted. It’s not racial purity.

He’s everywhere right now. Which has been your favourite feature of him?

@@ChrisWillx Probably this one, or maybe his triggernometry appearence.

Agree his recent Triggernometry one was good. Also New Culture Forum. I like his US ones too.

ive been a fan for.years. i have his books.too..awesome guy.

yea he's doing a lot of interviews atm. What i loved about this one was you managed to get a different response out of him, not his fault that interviewers often ask the same questions so he uses his best ammo as a response was cool to get somthing different

Totally agree

Picture two jihadies riding round Tajikistan on the stolen tandem bicycle.

Excellent review 👌

Deadly serious, but distinctly hilarious.

Very true, lots of great British wit in this one, I loved it!!

PLPB&stuf and they’re stupid.

@@kityfitz I'd love to agree Olivia, but I'm starting to think they're just jealously evil.

Good word choice: unsalvageable. Sadly true.

Sometimes you wonder if they’ve ever opened a history text book? Or talked to anyone from the actual societies they are referring to!

He’s the real deal, agreed.

@@ChrisWillx and you're on that path with this channel, keep it up mate!

Thank you 👊

@Matt Read Do you not have workers' rights where you live? I guess I should ask where you live and how have workers there been abandoned? I don't know who he is (not sure how I even got this video) - - - so I am a little lost here, in CA....:) TIA.

No, he's an Oxbridge Tommy Robinson.

Thats an amazing qoute

That has always been the way and is included in all great books. It's always been a roller coaster of bad times and good times.

WOW! THAT'S EARTH SHATTERING!!!!!!!

... I don't know any of her works, but I thought that she was pretty far left. What happened?

Ironically some Portlander protests prob grew up as Potter fans before their indoctrination

Though unfortunately she herself after in an interview said she is a firm believer in BLM, quite the downer haha

@@unendingitch4118 Can you provide a link? Genuinely interested.

@Chemist This is an opinion piece written by the woman herself. Since the incident went viral she’s kind of swayed back and forth about it, but an article in the Washington Post constitutes the end all of her beliefs/stance in _my_ opinion. EDIT: I forgot to add the link! I have to smh at my own self more often than is comfortable to admit lol. www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/lauren-victor-diner-dc-black-lives-matter-protesters/2020/09/03/fa0368de-ee21-11ea-ab4e-581edb849379_story.html%3foutputType=amp

@@thisfacebelievesyou8862 Appreciate it! But no way I'm going to give WaPo any money to read it lol

Chemist understood, but they do give 3 free articles a month. While I’ve given them clicks, I’ve never given them a dollar

That's some grade A bullshit

@Kvothe Windrunner Failed attempts at solving the race problems, based on wrong ideas about the causes of those problems are at the root of the problem. They have resulted in frustration and in the growth of grievance studies at universities.

"If we wanted to be serious about evidence, we might compare where blacks stood a hundred years after the end of slavery with where they stood after 30 years of the liberal welfare state. In other words, we could compare hard evidence on “the legacy of slavery” with hard evidence on the legacy of liberals." - Thomas Sowell.

Which is ironic in the worst possible way. With all the motivational speakers, books, tapes and movies there are out there you'd think there'd be parity. But.. it isn't.. it's just a problem that gets exponentially worse it seems.

@Jeannie Seibert seriously. There are so many examples of evidence being ignored by the far left these days. A big one is socialism itself.

It's not strange at all. His sexual orientation doesn't change that he comes across as masculine which we boring straight ladies are naturally attracted to, and his dry, brutal humour is very charming. Nothing wrong with enjoying the complimentary eye-candy that comes with an insightful and entertaining discussion. I mean, Chris I wouldn't 'bump off the edge of the bed' either, as we say in German ;), and as you said, they have a great bromance going on.

I agree completely!😄

I'm straight and Douglas Murray reads (to me at least) as entirely masculine. Very attractive indeed.

Me too ❤

Completely agree. Douglas is an incredibly intelligent man with the rare quality of having common sense as well. That coupled with his masculine good looks and that utterly adorable lisp has this particular straight gal weak at the knees! His personal sexuality doesn't change anything.

The majority thinks the other side is the majority and are too intimidated to stand up against them.

Rubbish.

@@dharmaqueen7877 Not true, the majority know the left is actually the minority but it has ALL the institutional power. It's like a communist government. The government itself is not the majority but it holds the institutional power. The power to unperson you. True, cancelling a person doesn't have the same power it that it has in a communist regime, but it does intimidate some people. To see the power of the left check out the fact that the British government is making government personnel take diversity (i.e communism) training. A supposedly right wing government is using tax money raised to propagandise its staff with communist propaganda. Right in their faces! That's a lot of power.

@Elizabeth Anthony Fatigues on, ready to fight.

Elizabeth Anthony I think Peterson is far too apologetic in his approach during discussions such as these. Murray strikes at the core of these pertinent issues and is less perfunctory and abstract than Peterson.

they are ,,adults,, with hurt inner childs screaming for attention. narcissist trying to change the world and everyone around them so they can fit in.

@Bobbie Tuggboat both ways are possible. hurt childs or totally spoiled ones. you are right too.

Arrested psychological development ... stuck in the pre-pubescent phase.

bobbie. I agree !

Absolutely right, along with the comments below. Spoiled, entitled children grow up emotionally undeveloped. It is a different type of harm and neglect with the same outcome. The west has a massive mental health crisis on our hands and it is being exploited by evil doers. Just like Charles Manson exploited his young, hippie followers and turned them into murderers.

Thank you JS. I really felt like we were on the perfect level for this one

Thought he was really down in triggernometry...

People are not given facts, they're given speculation, and people go for the side of speculation cause humans have a killer instinct

So SO on fire for this one wasn’t he

I adore it when Douglas has fire in his belly 👍he really is above the rest, I believe there is not a queue of progressives trying to debate Douglas. Much respect and admiration. Thank you Gentlemen xx

absolutely. And to add my 2c I think as many people should go woke-fishing as possible this would very quickly destabilize the left. And would be pretty funny at the same time.

@@mike2carrington 'Destabilise the Left'? What Left? Britain is run by a small group of unaccountable Chicago School Eton boys, sociopathic, venal and barbaric.

@Bobbie Tuggboat Are they both arse-bandits?

as the daughter of a gay father and lesbian mother who were bullied into trying to become straight and it didn't work I TOTALLY AGREE with you. And the only reason I mention my parents is because you're absolutely right here in Manhattan you absolutely have to qualify everything you say. So basically what I made as if you are of a certain color or if you're not gay then you can't say anything otherwise you will get your head ripped off. And I can even get away with saying that because my father who was gay was also black so...... but I get your point yes it's true here in New York City you can't say anything it really is insane out here

Yes, Lewis, he is gorgeous; people like me and all ages and both genders, love him because he has no affected behaviour, he is a man and a brave man. 2 years after this he spent months between Israel and Gaza, suited up in an area of conflict. He is a genuine unflinching truth-teller. He loves truth, and hates injustice.

I love him too

Yes absolutely he is a saviour in these stupid ridiculous times 👍

I love him more 😉

@@kityfitz😂😂😂😂

Yes, I thank the Lord for leading me to another flesh and blood hero, that I can follow online and listen to and watch him and listen to his brilliantly researched books, [on Audible] He speaks of himself as 99% there in Belief. He is so led by scriptural principles.

lovely but be careful. i remember "steal this book" by what'- his -name. if you do it get a dada lawyer.

if that doesn't work, just make sure you have PRESS patches all over your clothes;

In my best obnoxious John Oliver voice - - Do it!!

Do it.

@@Mudskippered Damn, you beat me to it!

We, as parents, spent a lot of money to send our kids off to college, thinking we were doing the best for them, not noticing the universities had become indoctrination centers. Now these indoctrinated adults have infiltrated business, government etc. Have you kids learn a good trade instead.

@@gwenj5419 A good trade will take them anywhere.

Oh buddy . I’m so, so sorry . I have never fought in a war . I have no idea ... I have however , lived in a Gulf state and a former communist country in the 90s . I know what lack of freedom is and am seeing it in America 🇺🇸 . People have NO idea . Thank you for service dear one . As a mom I will pray for you tonight . God Bless you .

Brother. Rest easy and live the happiest life you can. Words won’t help you but I hope time and the people around you do

Hi Jordan, I've never experienced a war. My husband did. If it can be of any help to you, I'd recommend books by Robert Monroe and hemi-sync by Monroe Institute.

Damn...just...damn. You fine sir, are exactly right. Anyone who thinks the USA is a bad country is absolutely stupid. I don't know what to say except thanks for keeping those horrors away from my country.

Prayers for you and for the little girl. I still can’t catch my breath from reading your post. You are so right.

That'll be the day.

Pure quality from DM here. Enjoy the ep man

Sounds like Camden Town

I gigglying away to this quote when a BMW decided to occupy the road space that my car was using. I was in complete joy at the intelligent giddy conversation and didn't even acknowledge the traffic violation. My fingers didn't touch my sidewinder missile launcher activated by the headlamp lever.

Thank you. Some more huge names incoming soon too 👀

Mark Dyer I was a teacher and have to agree with you these mass lectures are a waste of money. I often didn’t turn up for them, or turn up sign in then go away. Racism nowadays means ignore the needs of white students over black students. Stuff that! All students need different things and it isn’t racist to help a white person. I am so sick of the word racist being banded about, it means nothing. Mainly it’s culture that is the problem.

@@kathleensmith644 Kathleen, thank you for this. I'm now 68 and retired. I know it sounds 'snooty'; but Teachers are - often - (not always!) 'educated' people; particularly when we were educated in the fewer universities available back in the 1970s. And education does not cease with initial graduation, but continues throughout adult life. This infantilisation of the entire Teaching profession, I also saw within Nursing (I was also a Registered Nurse); where we were subjected to the same bullshit. A student of theology, I remember being told, "You must respect all religions", by a somewhat dim lecturer; who did not appear to appreciate the difference between a 'religion', and the 'person-practising-that-religion'. I may respect the latter: but not always the former.

@Arthur Roberts Why not? Unless we challenge these 'woke' morons, they are just going to ride, rough-shod, over all of our prized institutions.

Ya..I thought she was with the weirdos😂😂😂

TryzMark Steyn

@@musicworship4520 Yikes to you!

Douglas Murry certainly has the humour that Petterson lacks.

Am totally with you on that one. Can listen to Jordan and Douglas all day every day

Very British.

Me too 😂

If someone can figure them all out, please put up a list

I'm currently working my way through The Gulag Archipelago (Bottom left on his shelf). I highly recommend it but be prepared for a damned depressing read.

As am I, which lead to my wondering what does he do for light reading?! Wander up to those shelves and depending on your mood, you walk away with a degree or depression.

Ha! Me too!! He has the Gulag Archipelago, I’m trying to read the other titles!

I make a point of reading that play, Robert Bolt's "A Man for All Seasons", every time I come across it in my book collection. Definitely a book for our times. A great movie was made of this play, too. God bless my high school English teacher who made us read it.

Absolutely!

Douglas is on point 😂

I agree right. More upvotes pls, internet

Douglas Murray is a quasi ethno stater, he flirts too closely with concerns about the cultural whiteness being important for a host society like Britain. I don't want that shit in the US, and people who agree most strongly with Murray have that nasty strain inside them.

@@ubuu7 He's addressing the deliberate dilution of native Europeans. Which we know is happening because our last Labour government are record discussing the idea, and official census confirms it is still happening. There's nothing wrong with recognising and tackling a real threat.

@@J4CK4L7 the threat if what? too many non whites? Not what conservatives CLAIM they cared about. The values of the people coming in, the beliefs, the self sufficiency and being able to bring something to the table like higher skills, no. Gotta worry about the WHITENESS so we don't dilute our aryan dominance. This is the core sameness bias that infects every shitkicking right winger across the fucking globe. And Murray is further enough along on that spectrum for me to want nothing to do with him. I got that when he was on Sam Harris podcasts and let the european numbers obsession slip. Race matters to Murray. He explicitly says so in polite and genteel tones. He's not a fire breather and does not demand we mass deport ALL the people in western countries, so it goes under the radar. But at the end of the day, he is an open enemy to a liberal society that is not based in part on the logic of a semi ethno state that demands a critical number of white people be the dominant ethnic group lest our way of life falter! As someone that is not white, I find that shit abhorrent. No doubt the white conservatives, and living minstrel shows like Jesse Lee Peterson's of the world have no problem with that. And for the record, I'm not fond of the idea of a mass influx of say, a bunch of salafist muslims into my country the US. But it's not because of the race, it's the conservative and theocratic attitudes that are associated with that. I'd take some of the more liberal muslims I know here over a bunch of paint sniffing conservatives any day. Even though they are not white! Because I don't hold onto ethno state logic as part of my world view. Murray does. IF you and people like Modern wisdom paid the fuck attention, you'd get that.

I for one can't believe that Douglas said George Floyd was 'killed'- he died of a self-imposed drug overdose that was exacerbated by his having Covid at the time of his arrest, could have picked up a few dislikes because of that?

Karl P - Good!!!

Karl P And that’s a great thing!

Who comes 2nd?

David starkey

@@charlesnicholls4102 fcking looooolllz

@@ChrisWillx Well if a straight man up the thread can say Douglas is first, then gay old me can say Candace Owens is second - in a slightly over-excited US kind of way.

@@ChrisWillx I think you two should get a room 😉

I think the host hit the nail on the head when he said they are very clever people who constantly move the goal posts and tie you in knots to the point you dont even know what sport you're playing. And they intellectually intimidate people. I think thats why many people stay silent.

@G*man thats true also.

The majority of people will likely not find the courage, but if enough find the courage to tip the scales then the majority will likely follow!

@@ohcrikey9560 narcissist salamitactics slice by slice.

Forget it dude, most people, especially men, cant even stand up to the "I am a female and therefore right" sociopaths

Thank you very much man. That means a lot. I love the trajectory my life has taken these past 5 years, can’t wait to see what comes next

Pinching that, 😆

Thats a shame . I think he gives pseudo intellectual legitimacy to Scared bigotry

Books are real friends

G’day cobba

Yeah I feel like I'm under house arrest...

Thank you both for uplifting me out of a dark mood set by our whack-a-doodle premier and the crazy enveloping the world. You guys literally mentally Heimlich manoeuvred the black pill out of me.

Aloha from Maui 👌🏼

You have my sympathy! I thought we had it bad in the UK, then I saw the Aussie news!

I’m waiting for the Cardi B - WAP Edition

@@ChrisWillx 😂

Yeah Douglas Murray is my total fave too, love how he demolishes Islam ..

Yes

society is destroyed before 3 happens

Barefoot, Yes Agree with you. Unfortunately too many people think that number 3 and 4 will just naturally come and pass. It will not

Wrong on No. 3. This tantrum is now ideologically embedded in all of our institutions and will bring our system down

or wears a tight white t-shirt!

Thanks Glenn. Douglas is a dream to speak to

@@ChrisWillx he was more animated than I've ever seen him!

I think he might have had some wine. Or lots of coffee. Or both.

Cheers Tom! Let’s discuss in a few weeks 👊

@@ChrisWillx look forward to that Chris

@Auxiliary Stream Services I don't know about calling it shitposting considering the internet wasn't exactly in existence when the soviets were, but the parallels really are crazy. At the time he was being interviewed he was under the impression that academia had already been fully subverted (I believe in the 80s), and literally said the population will be convinced that it is alright to use violence in the name of social justice when in actuality this is never acceptable, especially in the name of social justice, it is exactly what is occurring

You know too much

@@ludaheracles7201 im not the only one

I think Douglas was alluding to that when he stated "There is one obvious question: Where does she live? "

Couldn't happen to a nicer gal

Anne Jeffries Hi Anne, I have to admit I have not, but now I have this foreboding and am frightened to look!!