Christian Nationalism | Voddie Baucham 

We are citizens of the Kingdoms of God living in the city of men. I am not here to build a man-made Kingdom, but I am a citizen living in America and unless the loyalty to America violates loyalty to Christ, I will defend my nation from all enemies foreign or domestic. It does not make me anything other than a Christian living in America. God first, family second, country third, all else forth.

The Christians who really need to listen to this message and let it settle down in their hearts, will not do it. Some of them have forgotten that Jesus said I will build MY Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. He did not say America will build my church.

We are members of the kingdom of God. That is the nation we should see ourselves as being part of. After all who's army are you apart of, Christ or the nations.

I am a Christian. Not everyone who names the name of Christ is a Christan. And not every church, organization, movement and individual who calls themselves Christian is. This is not a movement of Christ. The greatest hallmark of a Christian is love, as it is defined in 1 Corinthians 13. Another is humility. Christian Nationalism is a political movement veiled in the cloak of Christianity that wreaks of pride and hypocracy. It directly opposes the teachings of Jesus Christ Himself. Christian Nationalists appear to be more interested in fueling their own agenda rather than Christ's agenda -- the Great Commission. When Jesus returns, He will then set up His Kingdom on earth. A holy nation. Christ will accomplish this Himself.

"Christianity is not ethnic in nature. Christianity is rooted and grounded in the Gospel that calls ALL men everywhere to repent. Christianity does not force men to worship. Christianity recognizes that men are called BY FAITH to worship God!" -Voddie Baucham

I always thought that God's kingdom is in Heaven, not in a country

I just found out about this man. & it happened for a reason in this moment of my life.

In Timothy when we are told to pray for all in authority, HE tells us what to pray, "that we all may live Godly and honest lives"

Current active duty marine, fascinating perspective on American military and God. God bless, love your ministry sir

Love the dedication to praying for those in authority over us. May God make us both a hearing and a doing people of faith.

I've learned so much from Voddie. God bless him..

I love it! Thank you for bringing the word of God.

As a citizen of 🇬🇧 who lives on the island of Ireland this is a powerful message. It is God who sets up nations and not men. When a nation has a Christian ethos it is God who has ordained it and not men. It I’ll betides any nation has a Christian ethos for its citizens to attempt to secularise it. The history of the nation of Israel is testament to what happened to them when secularisation and plurality of religion occurred. God punished them with seventy years of captivity. Western nations should learn this lesson well.

As usual, Pastor Voddie is an excellent speaker. I really enjoyed this message.

God bless Voddie. He preaches and teaches the Truth of God.

Thank you for shedding light on this subject with boldness.

God's been good to us!

This is my favorite pastor today. He understands and teaches correct Christian doctrine IMHO. God Bless Him.

Voddie won’t give one inch when it come to letting secularists define Christianity. Praise God for how He’s working in Voddie’s life!

The Kingdom of God is in the hearts of born again Christans

I too have been born and raised in America. My grandfather served in world war II. His son my uncle served in Vietnam, so there is a patriotic theme running through our family. I will make this clear I am not an America basher. In 1995 I started to read the bible. At that time I had entered in Fellowship with the Father and His Son. God's spirit was sent from the Father to me. I was Born Again that moment. The bible has washed me clean and renewed my mind, I became a new creation. All things are passed, behold all things became new. At that moment I knew I was on enemy territory, and Satan being the god of this world, is like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. Jesus tells me that to watch out for this evil one, and also that I will be hated by ALL Nations for His namesake. This is what has been handed down to me traditionally, not only me but millions here as well. Our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, we are God's building, temple. And to place my hand over my soul and pledge or swear an oath to a peace of material with some red and white stripes and has some stars on it. I had to repent to the Lord and say, My allegiance is to you Jesus, I trust in you that you have gone to prepare a place for me and one day will receive me unto yourself that where you are I will be also. Until he returns for me, he has assigned a task for me to do down here. If I complete this task, I will here those glorious words... "Well done my good and faithful servant, enter into the joy of thy salvation. I am a sojourner just passing through, this world is not my home. I am a Christian residing in a place called America, I am a monarchist, I serve the King of kings, Jesus. I'm not an Republican nor a Democrat. My foundation is the Lord Jesus Christ and His word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path. I do not stand on the sinking sand of the Constitution, nor do I place my trust in the Bill of Rights nor the Amendments. Those documents are not written in the Lambs book of life. I will trust in Him alone. I hope and pray that any who read this will truly come to God and reason with Him by His word. God bless you all. I love each and everyone of you !!!

Ohh Rah brother Voddie. May the Lord keep you and bless you.

As an Anabaptist, I have a lot in common with bro. Bacham but also truckload of difference. We Anabaptists have been objecting too, speaking back too and fleeing from Christian Nationalism since 1525 so while he can't see it, I can. And I don't think that makes me a Marxist or a Liberal or "woke".

I'm absolutely on board with what is taught in this lesson! God bless you, and thank you for your wisdom and prudence!

May God continue to bless and protect you brother!

Voddie Baucham: the Antidote to the purgatory of Political Podcasts. His podcast has a hope at the end. His message has a point!

Listening to David Barton's talks on the history of America gives one perspective that is balanced when navigating these issues and Dr Baucham hear does that in a condensed yet vivid way.

Christian Nationalism is the belief that Biblical Christianity should be ruling the (worldly) government. The role of the Christian is to preach, teach, and disciple souls that hear and receive the gospel of Christ. We are not called to collectively rule this world in which we live, but to point people to Jesus and trust in the guidance of his Holy Word. This world must run its course. There is a prophetic time table that will be followed. We do not rule until the millenial kingdom of Christ begins. It stands to reason then that to believe in Christian Nationalism, one must believe in the false doctrines of theonomy and post millenialism. I would call Voddie to remember his message on Gospel Clarity. Stop feeding the church fruit flavored slushies and give us the real fruit/food that satisfies. Just preach the Gospel brother. 2 Tim 4:2

I have been listening to Voddie for more than 10 years and I have learned things from him that I did not think was possible. Blessings to the man. 🙏

Jesus preached the kingdom of God and that we are to spread it. Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. says the Bible. We are responsible to vote what would please the Lord and ignorance is not an excuse. How free we are to witness on the streets prove we are a free nation. When the government says your keep the witness inside the church, we are in trouble. We will serve our God or the god of the world will rule our nation.

Go Dr. Baucham Go !

Preach Dr. Baucham, Preach !! May the Lord continue blessings you with His Words.

Voddie is very thoughtful here. I call myself a Christian Nationalist because I think we can take ground by embracing the term when rightly defined. We've done this with the term Christian which was originally a derogatory term. Christian Nationalism rightly defined has nothing to do with America specifically. It's about a Christian people seeking God for their nation. From what I can tell, there is a small group of extremists that misrepresent the majority. God will judge them and His truth will prevail.

We are to be CHRIST-LIKE first. Then whatever we choose to be distracted by. But JESUS 1st.

Voddie is a national treasure.

The social construction of Reality - a Treatise in the sociology of knowledge by Berger and Luckmann; thank you for bringing this wisdom and teaching to the people, Dr. Baucham.

This needs to be listened to by many Christians!

Voddie is such a blessing. I highly recommend his book Fault Lines!

When the identity of anything- the individual, the ethnicity, the government, or the nation- is viewed as superior or more important than the standard of God's revelation, sin is rampant and through that sin under the judgment of God. Salvation through faith in Christ should be the only focus of identity that matters. Are you His sheep listening for His voice or a goat awaiting His judgement?

I am a Christian and I am for my nation. I want this country as a whole repent and to turn to the Lord Christ Jesus savoir only.

Nationalism is an ideology that emphasizes loyalty, devotion, or allegiance to a nation or nation-state and holds that such obligations outweigh other individual or group interests.

I love the way he exposes the postmodern philosophical worldview of those who are seeking to distort and/or suppress the truth of America's founding.

Such sound reason! Thanks for this very balanced message about a hot topic right now!

Much appreciated lecture! Soli Deo Gloria

It’s a shame that he has no problem using word “woke.” When it’s a word us as a term to meaning “that we don’t care about what you black people are going through. Period!

I believe in the separation of church and state.

Let's listen and learn here. Teach Mr. Voddie Baucham

Voddie is a TRUTH PILL for this country.

Voddie - Thank God for your teachings, a long with John MacArthur's, Steven Lawson's and Jeff Durbin's - the truth of the Gospel taught with expositional study and many hours of pray. Praise God for these dedicated Shepard's 😊

I used to have a bumper sticker on my vehicle that read, “Jesus loves you, but I’m his favorite.” It was in jest, purely tongue in cheek humor, but my main criticism of Christian Nationalism is that they seem to be very serious about this sentiment

Oh I’m disappointed with Voddie this time. Yes, England had a national religion which is why they persecuted the Puritans and they fled here. Then the Puritans and other colonies also established state religions and persecuted other faiths. This is why Jefferson, Washington and others fought for religious freedom and a secular government with no religious test. Washington was especially avocating for the rights to of Muslims. Many documents have been preserved. You can read what they wrote on the subject

I believe Jesus is going to return very soon!

Isn’t it interesting that our country started so religious in the northeast and now it’s more so secular.

Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords.

Nationalism stands apart from globalism and tribalism. And I see nations supported through the Bible. Then the only choice under each of those is Christian or pagan. So, fleshing it out. I am a Christian who belongs to a nation that would like to glorify the true God along with my nations and other godly nations. Let the nations be glad!

I'm a white Christian who believes we need to get back to following the constitution. I'm not sure what that makes me and I'm not sure I care what others want to label me. I have no desire to oppress anyone and I want all people to be saved by Jesus.

Voddie - four deployments in Special Operations w/ US ARMY RANGER and a decade in the modern Army - The US Flag is a Golden Calf, God bless you, sir.

My thoughts are people need to look to the Most High and pray for politicians to lead our country whatever party is in office however we do need to discern who we are voting for

I have a healthy fear of Christians, I remembered decades ago they used to talk about love you don't hear that much anymore

Isn't it defined in our Pledge of Allegiance? "...a nation under God?

“Not in the Lord’s house…”. Yes!

I love this message and greatly appreciated your historical and correct word use by definition. Words matter. With that said, I did disagree with a couple of phrases and ideas at the beginning. 1 Cor 6 teachs us that we are the temple of the Lord, not a building that we gather to on Sundays and so the idea of "out their do this but not here" I would disagree with. We are also commanded in Roman's 13 to give honor where it is due. So if a body if believers want to take a moment to show honor to those in their gathering who have fought for the American idea and to protect or free other nations. I think script supports doing this and the people.a definitely deserving of honor. My self, I'm an Iraq War Vet and I know what I have done for our Nation and for the people of Iraq. I DO NOT EXPECT HONOR thou I have earned it. More men need to work to try and say the same. IMHO. Thank you brother. I greatly appreciate your gifting and communication of truth.

“Never forget that the principles of the Protestant Reformation made this country what she is, and let nothing ever tempt you to forsake them.” JC Ryle - 1900 Last publish written words

The Christian Nationalist Movement insinuates the same thing the Moral Majority and Reconstruction Movement did - that the Gospel of Christ is not totally sufficient. We must also work through the political/legal system to make American "Christian." That is the great flaw of that theology. The Gospel is totally sufficient. We don't need the political/legal system to promote God's Kingdom.

Great message! It’s interesting how he speaks about a secular government being a new concept. Six months ago the Chilean people soundly rejected a new constitution which Nature magazine referred to as the first constitution based on Science. As I listened to Brett Weinstein’s Dark Horse podcast he and his wife read through parts of it. Brett Weinstein is an atheist, and I remember how appalled he was, not just by the lack of science, but by the lack of a moral framework. Brett’s moral foundation came from somewhere and it doesn’t appear to be science.

I just heard public radio using this pejorative.

Remember him teaching back in Houston area . . . . great man of faith

Morality comes from GOD. If it doesn't, then it is man's morality. Every NATION has rules and regulations from a GOD. Which GOD should rule? I'm just asking. I love you Voddie:)

What do you think of psalm 72:17 where nations will bless and be blessed by Jesus the Messiah

Not one Black head in the congregation. Interesting.

Fantastic!

I love how this guy literally reads the verses saying that the Lord holds the nations in derision and will dash them to peices and he goes "see this is why we should be christian nationalists

My question is , does the majority of Christians or “Christian nationalist” feel the same way Voddie does? I don’t think so

I am a committed follower of Jesus, THE Christ. I make no apologies for my closely held beliefs and try to live a life pleasing to GOD. I must say in response to this video post. I am utterly disgusted. This man, like so many others, is so cloaked in the verbiage of faith, and so many "believers" online follow and trust him. I, however, to this point have withheld judgement, even after having heard him and others make statements from time to time that I cannot harmonize with the spirit of the gospel. We, specifically in this country, are in such a perilous moment so fraught with confusion and uncertainty. And I have waited for those leaders in the church to push back against these false teachings that are merely rooted in political power instead of Christ-likeness. As I do not know the heart of any man, I cannot and would not accuse anyone of deliberate misleadings, but there is a strong wave of tribalism that has emerged and is being paraded around and explicitly pushed to well-meaning followers of Jesus. "christian" nationalism, at its root, is not christian. It is about political power, dressed up in all of the iconography and voiced in all of the very familiar verbiage of faith. This idea of a god of war, is not of GOD. And certainly, America is not HIS kingdom, as referred to in scripture. Yet, so many are being lulled into this distorted belief, most often by trusted "leaders". How can anyone who follows the Word of GOD see someone carrying a sign saying, "JESUS Saves", while that same person is simultaneously pummeling a police officer, actually believe that any of this is of GOD? How can our leaders explain and make excuses for these clear contradictions? Jesus IS the Prince of peace who denounced violence in the gospels. "christian" nationalism is not about following CHRIST, it is about following power. GOD's word warns that many in the faith will be led away by false prophets. Their allegiance to the CHRIST clearly seems to have been replace by their allegiance to political power, and thus losing our commitment to being peacemakers. This so-called "christian" nationalism is neither patriotic nor Christian. What is this violence? What is this perpetual rage? I'm not blind to all of the secular extremes in this corrupt world. Be NOT like this world. I'm afraid that many of us have allowed ourselves to be lied to and fooled with our eyes wide open, to the point of willfully supporting the most godless individual because he skillfully cloaks himself in just enough of the familiar rhetoric, and our leaders find him to be a useful tool. This will prove to be woefully misguided, as this man has NO allegiance to anything or anyone other than himself, and certainly not the GOD of the bible. But he has opened the door and we have walked through it. I continue to be prayerful that people of true faith will awaken from this worldly power seeking-induced stupor and once again return to actually seeking Christ-likeness. We cannot defeat the ugliness of this world by becoming like it. I am truly sorry, but this is wrong. Blessings.

Who's calling Christian nationalism bad who's calling Christian nationalism bad the Communists

We were commanded to make disciples, not elect them. Our preoccupation with the latter and neglect of the former is in large part what has led to the wheels falling off. When ancient Rome became "Christian" similar things happened.

"I think I'm gonna get fired again" I know that feeling.

“As the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion" ~ Treaty of Tripoli; initiated under President George Washington, 1796, signed into law by President John Adams, 1797, ratified unanimously by the Senate, 1797, published in full in all 13 states, with no record of complaint or dissent.

I think any entity that doesn’t have enough room for every human isn’t a real entity but a human power projection. Live and let live.

Voddie says that Christianity doesn't force anyone to worship which is true bit minutes earlier he rattled off several colonies that required a (Christian) religious test to hold public office. Those tests are Christian nationalism (though a slight misnomer because we were only colonies and not a nation).

Let's make it simple it's a devil trying to divide us. That's it

Keep religions away from politics and power. Keep religious faith personal and never to be imposed upon others.

The only problem is, they steven Miller, Marjorie green, call themselves wcn!

A wise man in Christ.

以前、別のユーザーが英語で非常に深く述べていたように、「ナショナリズムとは、国や国民国家に対する忠誠心、献身、または忠誠を強調し、そのような義務を他の個人やグループの利益よりも重要だと考えるイデオロギーである」。私は実際にこの意見に同意します。

I wonder how he feels about Dr. Martin Luther King? You should only have to identify as a Christian, and that should tell people enough if you say a christian nationalist that is something else completely. Jesus said not to concern yourselves with matters of the world, and once you declare yourself a christian nationalist you are concerning yourselves with matters of the world and not of the spirit.

I'm with James Lindsey on the use of this term. Things are hard enough without us willingly stepping into an unnecessary landmine. Just call yourself a Christian patriot or something.

While the Gospel Church is indeed to transcend any national or ethnical border lines, the fact however still remains that God still looks upon nations as nations, and that He still judges nations as entities with national judgments. Hence, it is in the interest of every local church to preach the Gospel to its leaders and urge them, in as much as is lawful, to submit and conform their laws to the laws of Christ. Aside from Psalm 2, there is also this: And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, on them there will be no rain. If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. (Zech 14:17-20) Rain here denotes Gospel blessing (for literal rain, it is clear elsewhere that God is pleased to send it both on the just and unjust and so cannot be what is referred to here) and the Feast of Tabernacles of course refers to Christ, who is the Word that tabernacled with us. The plague here that is threatened (see Zech 14:12) is the rotting of the flesh, eyes and tongue, and who else could fail to see this judgment even now in action on the societies (including those that in the past had received rain, so to speak, but now have fallen far) whose language is filthy, whose eyes desire to look upon lewd and violent things and who defile their bodies with the most grotesque sexual perversions possible?

Nearly two years after this speech was given I assume that by now Mr Baucham may not need to continually ask "what do you mean by that" regarding the term "Christian Nationalism". If his only response today is "maybe" when asked if he is a "Christian Nationalist" it might be because he doesn't want to align himself with what he CLEARLY sees as an emerging American political ideology with potential for harm to both America and Christianity itself. Mr Baucham should ask Speaker of the House Mike Johnson what CN is and how he plans to help implement it. Johnson knows what it is, he's steeped in it. Some Senators (Josh Hawley among them) and House members unapologetically call themselves Christian Nationalists and are open about changing the Constitution to codify their versions of Christianity into law. "Maybe" they can help Mr Baucham decide if he is a Christian Nationalist or not. Christian Nationalist political ideology is not as benign as most people think it is. People need to know that.

It should have been and was...but liberalism from it's inception always held a spark of evil in it.

Great video

Excellent in all ways!

I belong to an Eastern Catholic Church politics are never discussed in are divine liturgy its not discussed when we share our meal after church we are at Church to worship Are Lord God and the Holy Trinity

Both "nationalism" and "Christianity" should be viewed with suspicion separately in the US. "Christian nationalism" should *really* be viewed with suspicion.

Oh my gosh i had a giant antique dictionary when my kids were homeschooling too. unfortunately mine was the real deal and began to disintegrate eventually. I was soooo impressed with the writing of ordinary people from hundreds of years ago and thought wow I don't think American kids could read this, then they go to college and learn to be activists and teachers and probably still can't read these old books by ignorant dirt farmers

The idea of a secular nation is a recent idea. One that started with the US Constitution in 1787.

Im a christian nationalist, love my country, i want my neighbors, my fellow Americans and govt officials to discover and know Jesus Christ, and see the blessings and grace bestowed upon our nation thru Gods word. If that makes me a threat or an enemy of the state. So be it. And if that offends someone, so be it... Glory to Jesus Christ. Greater is He who is in me than He who is in the world.

Until someone can fully engage with the BIBLICAL definition, understanding and implications of the concept of ‘nation’, one should consider any attempt at a Christian Nationalism to be problematic.

Jesus said you will know them by their fruit. The fruits are enumerated as love,patience , long suffering, kindness, compassion and tolerance. That is NOT the usual description of today's "Christian nationalist " A follower of Christ is described as neither man nor woman, slave or free, rich or poor. There is no mention of bias, bigotry, or misogyny.

Voddie is the Paul of our day … Minus the scourgings 😊