Christian Nationalism Panel | Voddie Baucham, Tom Ascol & William Wolfe 

The interviewer asked, What is Christian Nationalism? And for 41 minutes they poorly attempted to define the term or movement by what its not. It’s not a theocracy, it’s not a theonomy…etc. However it’s a country where God’s moral law is implemented by Christians. Their vagueness begs the question. I’ve loved listening to Voddie for years now, and he’s known for his articulate exactness concerning what he thinks, those two attributes were missing in this interview.

What YOU mean by Christian Nationalism and what THEY mean by it are two TOTALLY different things and it is usually a trap. James Lindsay explains this exceptionally well.

If by the term Christian Nationalism you mean literally obeying The great commission..sign me up..I'm all for it.

John McArthur did a sermon called "when the government rewards evil and punishes the good" the best sermon I have heard to date regarding government, Roman's and the church.

Find a healthy church? He's just not getting it yet! The Ekklesia isn't a denomination, any denomination, or any place! It's the people who are born again, walking by the Spirit of Messiah, walking by the word of Yehovah Elohim; and, when even two or three of those people come together to pray and study Messiah is right there in their midst! So come out of every single "church" which doesn't believe that, and meet together with those who are born again from house to house, and support each other! You don't need to be a part of any denomination, or any certain "church" so called, you need to come together in the Holy Spirit of Messiah and walk according to His word! You don't "find a church", you come together and allow the Holy Spirit to assemble you, because the Ekklesia is not any building or program, or denomination, or organization, or corporation but a living breathing body with Messiah as the head! You have a home, you have the ability to meet with others who are born again to study and pray in your home, you don't need to move and "join a church"; because, that's not what the book of Acts shows us! You need to come together, in small groups and be assembled to each other by the presence and power of Messiah living inside of you! It really is that simple. Nobody can lock that down unless you allow them; and, then you have bigger issues!

Family-rod Church-keys Government-sword

But, God never told us Christians to rebel against the ungodly government. The Roman government was doing the opposite of what the government was supposed to do as laid out in Romans 13:3-7. And, God still told the first Christians, in 13:1-2, to submit.

Excellent. God will build His Church for His Glory. Live Holy. Fear God. Obey Him in all things.

This is sad to see, we need a movement to rebuild Chrisendom, starting with America. Everything they're saying is what pastors who, like them are correct and Biblical in their general beliefs, have been saying for decades while things have gotten worse and worse. We see where this form of Christianity has gotten us, and it's time to change back to what built Chrisendom in the first place, which is the exact opposite of where these men stand on this issue.

If our culture's presupposition on "Christian" is pejorative, should we on that principle say, "it depends"? Or, should we begin "Yes. Let me tell you what I mean by it."

Has anyone else commented on the socks on stage here---pretty bold, hardly conservative (maybe Voddie's. purple) : )

I am so glad to hear this conversation! Not long ago I was called a Christian Nationalist I did not know how to respond because I had never heard the term! All I know is I don't agree with the world's view on abortion, gay marriage and transgenderism!!

i'd like to see the panel respond scripturally to what the Christian Nationalists believe rather than what others believe about them.

It is inconsistent for Ascol to ask someone to define what they mean by “Christian Nationalism” but to refuse to ask what they mean by “theonomy” when asked either question.

That was phenomenal and beautiful! Thank you

When you state that the government should create laws towards Christian ends, you're talking about Christian Nationalism. It may not be an extreme version but it creates a slippery slope towards creating laws based on the bible interpretation of some Christians. We are a constitutional Republic with a basis in democracy. We base our laws on the Constitution not the bible or some people's view of God's moral law.

The founding fathers of the United States government wisely, rejected pure democracy as the form of government for the new nation. They believed that pure democracy could too easily fall into anarchy. They very thoughtfully chose the republic form of government. Also, in 1 Samuel we are told the story of how God really did not want the Israelites to be governed by a king, but they insisted on choosing Saul. They chose Saul, because of his physical appearance, he was more handsome. They didn’t look at his qualifications to rule them. He was a donkey hunter. We must take heed to the end of this story - l Samuel 15:35 And Samuel went no more to see Saul until the day of his death. Nevertheless Samuel mourned for Saul, and the LORD regretted that He had made Saul king over Israel.

Excellent discussion and bonus points for the Star Wars socks. 😁

If most people mean wanting to make America a forced Christian nation…why do you want to co opt the term and embrace it with an altered definition? Just say no for crying out loud. Wolfe is the worst of them all cause he always says yes to the question. He is a CN in the bad sense of the term.

I say we trash the whole term. It’s not like we need that title to define us. It’s being used as a tool of Satan. Get rid of it. Refuse to define it.

Where do these spheres com from; not the Bible!!! John 18:36 says christ kingdom is not of this world.

I’m finding these discussions & presentations helpful. I’m Orthodox (as in “Eastern”) and the Church has a somewhat different take. Yet, a major difference would be in the local church as “Christian.” Orthodoxy teaches that the Church is literally the Body & Bride of Christ, and believers should, through faithfulness & repentance, seek to attain unto that. The “Christianness” of the Church doesn’t derive from believers but from the Spirit that I dwells Her. That would make the Church a much more vivifying & sanctifying presence (leaven, salt, light) in culture. But we’d arrive at basically then same place and these esteemed gentlemen propose.

If you listen to everything that Greg Bahnsen taught on Theonomy, from its definition to the application, it is inescapable that the modern "general equity" recognized as a fulfillment of what Dr. Bahnsen taught. Bahnsen was no legalist with regards to the OT civil law, he used it as an example, and argued to modernize its application wherever it made sense through "the moral nucleus" of the ethics of the law. It was the penal sanctions that I believe that modern church leaders have the biggest problem with what is recognized as Theonomy, over and against either GE or Christian nationalism.

Not sure why Voddie thinks only baptists are opposed to a state church. Joe Boot, a presbyterian, has written much on this

The term Christian is also a pejorative. It annoys me when people call themselves "Christ follower". I say let's own the definition and plant our flag on it instead of hopping from one term to the next because we have political and spiritual enemies.

In Hebrews 11, the Holy Spirit gives us examples of faithful, godly living, which we should follow. In verse 13, the Spirit says that these examples counted themselves as strangers and exiles on the earth. And, in verses 15 and 16, He says that they did not consider their earthly nations as someplace to be returned to. But instead, they were seeking a Heavenly kingdom and therefore God was not ashamed to be called their God. Jesus told us the same thing in Matthew 6:33, seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness.

What are the chances that Voddie's purple socks would be the calmest ones on the stage? ;-)

Easy determination. Do you believe in democracy...for all Americans? Do you believe in equal rights...for all Americans? I'm glad if you say "Yes", but then tell us how you plan on implementing your beliefs in public policy without impinging on those other people's rights?

Founding of America: voddie, are you saying Christ would have participated in the genocide of all the natives of the land and then enslaved millions of people and killed generations of these people??? Is that what you think of Christ, the anointed one???

The Father of Christian Nationalism Gerald L K Smith. A true founder 😂joke

Christian and nationalist are contrary to the church. The church is supreme, and the head is Christ, followed by ones family. Your nation and its politics are your contribution to Ceasar as a citizen.

If someone asks you that, just ask them, "What is a Christian Nationalist?".

Can someone help me understand the difference between Christian Nationalism and Dominion Theology. I seem to be mixing both up. Thanks

I am a Christian and have been one for over 60 years. My father was an American Baptist Association minister. Whenever I encounter anyone that they want the United States to be a Christian nation or say they are a Christian Nationalist, I ask them "Do you mean a Methodist nation? A Presbyterian nation? An Episcopalian Nation? A Roman Catholic nation? An American Baptist Association nation? A Southern Baptist nation? A Disciples Of Christ nation? A Congregational nation?" Once they get over being stunned at my question, they usually claim that all of the Christian denominations I mentioned are not Christian and the only Christians are the those people who follow their particular, specific variant of Christianity and only their variant should be acceptable in the United States.

I just moved to Fort Worth (next to Dallas) and yes, everyone here is a Christian two or three times over... pray for us as we "get 'em lost" first.

Excellent panel discussion.

God is very clear in Scripture, He chose only Israel for Himself. In Genesis 12:1-4, God makes a covenant with Abraham. And, God passed that covenant on to Isaac and Jacob. Jacob is Israel. Deuteronomy 14:2 says to Israel, "For you are a holy people to the Lord your God, and the Lord has chosen you to be a people for His personal possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth." Israel alone is God's chosen nation. Romans 11:1-2 says that is still the case.

We currently see Christian nationalism and anti-Christian nationalism in our society. Neither is the right approach and both are rooted in reactionary unbelief. We are pilgrims and aliens in a world that is not our home. We expect what we have, work diligently to proclaim the gospel and trust that God will bring to pass all his holy, sovereign will to his glory.

rushdoony and Christian Reconstructionism (Wikipedia). Christian Nationalist is NEVER mentioned in Scripture. Theocracy (example: the state of Iran).

It amazing how so much was said but noting was said. Very confusing. Very simple God commandment was written two table of stone 1-4 One, 6-10 Second. 1-4 love for God, 6-10 Love for your fellow man. 1-4 Government can NOT legislate. 6-10 Government can legislate. But how is it all these scholars talking about obedience and non of them obey the 4th commandment?

It amazing how so much was said but noting was said. Very confusing. Very simple God commandment was written two table of stone 1-4 One, 6-10 Second. 1-4 love for God, 6-10 Love for your fellow man. 1-4 Government can NOT legislate. 6-10 Government can legislate. But how is it all these scholars talking about obedience and non of them obey the 4th commandment?

I'm a conservative biblical Christian who happens to be a patriotic conservative American citizen. I believes we need to go out and make disciples for Jesus Christ. It is by making disciples that we create a Christian nation. I also believe as an American that I need to know our founding documents, founding fathers, and founding history. The Declaration of Independence and the United States Constitution are the most important documents for our country. As Christian, we should vote with our biblical values.

I love hearing these pastors speak on CRT and wokeness. These ideologies should not impact or influence the church. Both of these Pastors make that clear in boldly speaks against it and the issues of it. However, I was hoping to hear the some consistency with Christian nationalist ideology. I I noticed that majority of the people they speak in front of our White. As a pastor your message shouldn't cater to those who you're speaking to. Hold them to biblical truths as well

We can be christian patriot, a person who loves God and their country. Nationalism rightly or wrongly smells of superiority which can be manipulated towards hatred of others. Everyone should love their country, be a loyal law abiding hard working person and a patriot. We may be ahead of some countries in many areas but we should always remember we are all human and desire the best for each other. Governments may have to do what was done in two world wars but as individuals we are told by The Lord to love but not without truth. If we love our kids we set boundaries, we make consequences for wrongdoing, we seek to keep them safe from danger whether physical, mental, emotional or mental. The danger can come from bad parenting, bad education, bad church and even bad homes and of course today social media. Those born in a country stole seek its good. If you choose to live in a country to which you move, or flee then you also must seek the good of that country. I am a follower of Jesus and His teachings so a Christian and throughout my life have lived and worked and worshipped with people from all over the world. I have also had very good relationship with Hindus, Sikhs, atheists etc as they were keen to be friendly to me. Governments have to make good laws which if broken will bring consequences and this for the good of all.

Christianity! God! Many believe there is a god. However tell me something about christ jesus ministry. Truly it was not one that robbed killed and destroyed.

How could anyone who respects personal liberty endorse religious nationalism? This was what I expected- a meagre response to a growing threat in America.

Natural Law Is NOT God's Law. It is subjective humanism. Nature is not the Standard. God Is!!!!

Do not fall for the lies & fraud of the 'runt' which rhymes with... You being deceived you fellas. Forsake the f... What rhymes with duck.

Religion should stay out of Politics

@5:45 if drag-queen-story-hour should be criminalized, then your own conference should be criminalized too. either you participate in a society where the first amendment is PRACTICED or you don't. The first amendment does not say whether the expressed ideas were always going to be politically popular with anyone overhearing them. Moreover it really implied that sometimes they WOULD NOT be, but that lack of popularity IS NOT a legitimate reason to regard the statement as criminal. Nor does the first amendment say anything about whether children might overhear it either. Nor even anything about "sunday school" attempting to propaganize children before they had been encouraged to develop skepticism. So as previously stated, an ideology openly advocating abrogation of the first amendment, cannot just apply to your political adversaries. It would also make YOUR statements potentially regarded as criminal and at least seditious.

@1:45 obviously voddie and his friends have never spent 5 minutes listening to the people who show up at pro-trump rallies. I might agree that they also do tend to "define" christian-nationalism by their own terms, but frankly there is no objective definition for it. Vaguely it is some kind of ideology that conflates christian-dogma with some post-apocalyptic USA-version as culmination of proto-christian apocalypticism. the biggest problem with which of course is that yeshua (jeezus) is portrayed as having had apocalyptic ideology but none of it had the least thing to do with the USA.

@4:45 so does "be careful" just mean that you don't want your underlying ideology to be exposed? So you can run for public office or claim to influence the legislative process (or file lawsuits to interfere with some existing laws being enforced), but remain under the general media radar about being a nutcase? Is that what you mean by "careful" or is that actually some kind of intentional misrepresentation in order to pass as more competent than you actually are, to participate in a democratic goverment? Remember, being a christian-dominionist, would directly contradict the oath of office (also the oath to RUN for office) for any elective post in the USA. It avers NO reservations about preserving and defending the US constitution. Dominionism ultimately advocates abolishing the US constitution and setting up some kind of divine monarchy. Hence if you advocate any of the above, you are unfit to hold office and unfit to stand for office either.

Christian nationalism is at best meaningless, at worst its sinful all depending on how you define it. If you define it literally, you are saying that your christianity is reserved for whatever nation you prefer, which is sinful because it denies the global nature of Christ's church and implies that you will only behave as a christian for the benefit of your prefered people. I know that is not what most people who adopt the title are thinking it means, but it is how you are viewed by the world and frankly it does no favors for the effectiveness of your ministry. The apostle Paul instructs us to avoid using our liberty to cause others to stumble. I know that most of you who claim the title of christian nationalist think it means simply to change laws and culture to reflect christian values. I tell you, if that is your job, then that is what you should be doing. Christians are supposed to act like christians everywhere they go and in everything they do. Thats why its meaningless to pick just one sphere of life and point it out with its own title.Regardless of yoir occupation, hobbies, location, or who the people around you are, christian obediance does not change. We are to proclaim the word of God with love. There is no reason to incorporate nationalism into christianity. We are free to prefer one nation over another just as we are free to prefer hamburgers over hotdogs, but that is all the meaning it has. We dont get to pick and choose when it comes to the Faith. We also are not free to rebel. The only disobediance we are allowed is when mans law contradicts Gods law, but even in that, there is no rebellion. If mans law tells us not to preach the gospel, we obey God and preach the gospel, that doesn't mean when mans law enforcement show up to arrest us that we get to shoot them. No, we are to again obey God and do as Jesus commanded us when we are persecuted for His name....rejoice.

If you read your bible, it is pretty plain to see that government is a secondary consideration for the believer. Engage with the state as is appropriate for the context in which you find yourself.

Typical preaching to the choir here. Just as you don't want to defined by those you may disagree with or view as being the opposition. You should give them the same courtesy.

Who is this pastor? The video doesn’t credit him 🤨

can you love God and not love It’s creation - people, this is the question. The answer is no

I was enjoying a dinner with a brother in the Lord and loose discussions of political and Theological things came up. Christian nationalism was referenced in a negative way along with Tucker Carlson's name. Why am i supposed to be against it. Because Nationalist brings up National Socialism thoughts perhaps? Am I supposed to be afraid that Trump is like Hitler or am I reaching here? I would appreciate any commentary.

All of them are Christian nationalists stop the confusion. It’s like the same confusion between white supremacy and proud boys and so many other tendencies. I’m proud of being a Christian nationalist full stop 🛑.

I am a disciple of Christ Jesus, and i am called to love my country God's way.

Any civilized country does not reject others religious practices and beliefs if they are for the upliftment of the human spirit. There is a great difference between real followers and the lip service cheaters in any bona fide religion. After all there is one Supreme God for all the people of the world although the presentation maybe different according to time and place and people. There are three modes in material existence. Goodness, Passion and Ignorance . And according to these modes people have their own various attractions to aspects of the Supreme Absolute. The mode of Goodness is liberating. The mode of Passion is binding and the mode of ignorance is degrading. Mostly these modes are mixed and come and go. Regulation of all manner of people is for their eventually elevation to ultimately transcending even the mode of goodness to pure love of God.

incidentally what is "southwest florida"? is this really alabama?

Roman's Chapter 13 is often overlooked. The most ignored part of scripture is that there is one and only one purpose for which the sword was given. Many pastors would have us believe that we are obligated to obey to the point of aiding and abetting when the governing authorities wish to use the sword for all manner of economic and social engineering. The obligation of our obedience is counterbalanced by the governing authorities obligation of restraint. I ask, at what point did the Haulocaust become evil? At what point do the governing authorities go too far? ... IMO, this is answered by scripture by limiting use of the sword to one purpose. The "good" done by authorities is best done within their jurisdictional limitations.

The Great Commission is a Commandment to teach all nations to turn from their sinful humanism and to turn to the King of kings and Lord of lords.

Bro is wearing Mandalorian socks 😂

1:12 and 2:18 you aren’t a fool that’ll let yourself be trapped.. but you’ll walk into it and say, ‘yea, you’re right…” you made no sense

No one can serve two masters says the Christ. I am of the Nation of God first before any nation of man.

Don’t we already live in a Christian National society? The laws of the land are EXTREMELY influenced, if not reflective, of the Old Testament law.. save for a few examples.

8:25 and being a smart other brain.. literally just told on yourself. Bye

Voddie my brother, I love you dearly but Baptists are not unique in rejecting a state church.

I find it interesting that our flag has 7 red stripes and 6 white stripes.7 some would say is Gods # 6 is mans and it does say though your sins be as scarlet they shall be as white as snow and 1 more thing the stars in the heavens. God asking Abraham count the stars in the heavens if you can so shall your seed be or descendants. Just saying, it is interesting!

“Be a real Christian and act like it.” Amen! Great conversation.

Institutions cannot be neutral. If Christian values are not asserted in public life, then other values will predominate.

Was Constantine the first Christian Nationalist?

This is like watching german civilians in WWII claim that they aren't nazis but understand that there is a jewish question that needs to be answered.

There is simply no such thing as a Christian Nation and there has never been…the church is the Holy Nation❤️🙏🔥

I just noticed the Texas A&M class ring worn by Tom Ascol. Gig'em! (Not relevant, but any comment is good for the algorithm.)

a panel full of Trumpers......

i had a couple of evangelicals staying at my place, and noticed that they were reticent at talkiing about gay and lesbians. The same evangelicals who professed love for God,were judging and talking of sins in others. Excuse me, but we all, including gay and lesbians, we all come from lte same source, from a womb with gods spirit in us. Evangelicals when they judge and feel scared of different from them people, are on the wrong and ungodly path. All are God’s creation, how evangelicals can be so arrogant and disobedient of the word of God. Your role is to love and accept, not to judge, as we are ignorant of God’s plan, it may be to teach us to love unconditionally and win over our fears from others. We are one, we are the temple of God, of all colors and nationalities, of all genders - we carry God within us, we are one with God, we are not separate from It. So evangelicals quit fragmenting us, and fulfill your role

All I can see are those baby yoga socks

4:30 this is stupid

Christianity in the west has failed in protecting our societies and public spaces from degeneracy. And TBQH Sharia law has done a far better job in the areas/nations that it has power/control, even in specific locations in America where it has the population/force to be effectively implemented. Much of western Christianity has ignored how our lives should be ordered and the fruit that should come from faith. And as a result have passively allowed our communities, societies, and nations to be overrun with rampant degeneracy, with some/many “Christians” either supporting or actively participating. We fail to understand the book of James, that faith without works is dead. And just what is meant by working out our salvation with fear and trembling. We are not justified by works but if we have none and live lives full of degenerate behaviors flaunting them in the face of God, do we have true repentance and faith. And have also been blinded into thinking that muh freedom and muh democracy means that the government has no role (and/or is forbidden) in controlling the public space from degeneracy. Even though the Bible clearly lays out that the governmental authorities are ultimately accountable to God, and their function is to order society according to his precepts while protecting the vulnerable. And when the ruling authorities are corrupt and wicked it is a terror to the people. The US government is currently ordering society in accordance with their religion, and governments always will. It’s just that their religion is atheistic, Satanic, and driven by control through economics and degeneracy. There can be no neutrality by those in disagreement, we are ultimately not going to be able to peacefully coexist with evil running openly rampant in society. And people in positions of power willing to yield the sword against degeneracy is how it is stopped and controlled. It doesn’t address the heart condition of every individual, but it does keep open society/public spaces clean. I think many theoretically understand that we want leaders/rulers against degeneracy, but don’t want to take the leap that using the force of the state is often times necessary to stop evil from public influence and widespread acceptance. But would rather hope that the evil forces passively submit and not use “freedom” as the tool to implement their evil and degeneracy on a society wide scale. They are/will use muh freedom as the gateway to influence and power. I do agree with much of what Christian Nationalism espouses, seems to be a Christian version of Sharia. Or more accurately, modeling government after how God had intended for the nation of Israel to function in the Old Testament. And the ideals of what a Godly ordered life and society looks like. However, as a side note, I do think they fail to see the importance of mostly ethnically homogenous societies, and the role that plays in keeping a stable high trust society. At this point the demographic make up of many nations (including the US) are what they are, and as Christians we must live and treat others as commanded. Although we can fight against furthering the confusion and natural divisions being brought about by governmental immigration policies. But if we see a violent shake up of our nation and a natural restructuring of societies and the nation. I think we would be wise to take this into consideration. The world has definitely thumbed its nose (by design) at God’s order established for nations in Genesis 10.

Would it be good to make Sunday great again? Or would it be a counterfeit of the actual fourth Commandment

I am firmly convinced that none of these people have ever looked at the ministry of Jesus in the Bible and accepted his revolutionary appreoach to life and community. READ YOUR BIBLE!!

Vodie Bacham, Shawn McDowell, Lee stoneking and Martin Luther King jr is my Mount Rushmore

@36:00….It’s both, right? It’s National and Local. It does matter who is POTUS. How we manage our borders and how we deal with the rest of the world (foreign policy) has real impact on our lives. It would also be fairly easy to argue that most of us have more influence and control the more local that we get. The family being the most local. And then we move outward toward our congregations, our schools and school boards, yes, the sheriff and the city government, and all those other institutions in entities.

Every believer needs to be an apologist. 1 Peter 3:15 is a command to all believers, not just the "special forces apologists". "...always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you..." So, almost every single time a believer gets a question from an unbeliever, like"Are you a Christian nationalist", follow Jesus' example of answering a question with a question. Your answer to a question from an unbeliever should be "What do you mean by that?" Like Voddie was saying, someone asking that question is almost always on the offense. Or, like in a courtroom, they're acting as a prosecutor. So, if they're making assertions about what a Christian believes, it their job to support their assertion. It's not the Christian's job to refute it.

Pastor Ascol talks about “healthy churches” but faithful churches would I think be a better term. The adjective “healthy” is non-Biblical. Sound doctrine, love if the brethren, solid male membership and leadership, rejection of sin, lifting up the fruit of the spirit, Christ must reign and be worshipped with all our mind, heart, soul, strength, and we must be born again. A church that follows these values in a world governed by God-rejecting laws will be persecuted. The overlap between church and state which began with Constantine’s conversion and through the Reformation is collapsing. The state is becoming an enemy of the church except insofar as the church caves to the state. Therefore the God-loving purists will likely be persecuted even more actively in the future, not merely canceled. Cancellation is an early stage mild form of persecution like the way certain florists or bakers have been treated. May the Lord give us strength dear reader!

It is the Credobaptists' view of the government in enacting pluralism since Roger Williamson that has led us to our current situation.

The label "Christian" itself started as a pejorative too, did it not? Yet we call ourselves Christians. We dont let the enemy's use of the term determine what it means but rather what the words themselves actually mean.

This discussion was unhelpful to me. It seems like brothers in Christ could come together and all get on the same page as far as the mission of Christians in the world. This division amongst brethren is not good.

Very well done by all participants. The discussion is in process because of massive cultural challenges at this time. You gave us some clues and approaches for going out and each of us participating actively, actively being part of the solution to the chaos.

Common law structurally requires Christianity AND a separation of Church and state; because checks and balances require a separation of powers. The checks and balances of separating Church and state are accomplished through court structure. ... A defendant may choose a bench trial or a trial by jury. In a bench trial the laws of the state will be applied without regard to morality. If state law is corrupt, a bench trial with corrupt laws must also be corrupt. In a trial by jury the jurors are sworn to give a true verdict. A defendant can appeal to morality (Church doctrine) as a legitimate defense. State law cannot convert an intrinsically innocent act into a guilty act.

Im 27 minutes in and still no definitions presented. What is the deal with this question. It’s a panel on Christian nationalism, and no one will even present a definition they don’t agree with.

Church is to proclaim the Goodness of Jesus which will Lead to true repentance and restoration of the holly spirit which Adam lost when he died! Grace Love Goodness of the Gospel is the Power unto salvation of the sole!! Not the LAW of condemnation....

Great discussion. It seems prudent when asked "are you a Christian Nationalist?" by responding with "that depends on what you think a Christian Nationalist is." Yet...have the same conversation but remove the term Nationalist: "Are you a Christian?" The answer should be "yes" or "no" regardless of the inquisitor's opinion of what one is. The only thing that matters is the truth.

How did this video seem to attract so many self righteous trolls 🤦🏽‍♀️?

One should build their life in Christ…not a church. The church is an extension of Christ (ie) His Bride.

The issue is the term is a trap and the well has been poisoned. I am for theonomy, but why don't we just go back to that term?

His opening question was are you a Christian Nationalist. Then he asked for their 60 second answer. If you watch the first two sessions, you will get an answer to what is a Christian Nationalist.