Christianity and the Tooth Fairy | John Lennox at UCLA 

***** Well if you think that you are the product of evolution from apes then how do you explain that your DNA is unique? We are a different species with emotions and intelligence......and we are loved unconditionally by this God that and God has given us rational thought and if you studied his word would show you God is alive and well and all powerful.

Daniel Seven Amen brother!

***** that is not true. God was not invented 2000 years ago ignorant fool. You are the bible that is called "fool". Oh and i wonder how you look like, you really want to think that you came from a "monkey"? very sad....

***** "Any sentence that starts with 'the bible says' automatically looses any credit for a rational argument or reason." Really? My 1st question to you is this: How can you make such a rash comment when you have not even read the "Bible"? My second question: Forget about the personalities such as "Jesus", Moses, Abraham etc (with whom you seem to have problems) are you saying that the geographical and archaeological findings and the migration of the ancient peoples as described, make the "Bible" lose any credit for rational geographical and archaeological argument or reason? My 3rd question. Are you suggesting that the ancient historical and archaeological findings are based on a myth or lie and that they are historically untestable? Are you denying ANY historical evidence which routinely includes ancient literature, business records, and government documents, analysed in conjunction with linguistics, geography, and archaeological analysis of physical objects (pottery, coins, remains of buildings, etc.), using forensic science techniques? Are you denying that after many millions of man-hours of research and evidence analysis, archaeology has repeatedly confirmed the reliability of the accuracy regarding the historicity of the Bible? Are you denying the findings of some of the greatest 20th-century archaeologists such as, William F. Albright and Nelson Glueck, who both lauded the Bible (even though they were non-Christian and secular in their training and personal beliefs) as being the single most accurate source document from history. Over and over again, the Bible has been found to be accurate in its places, dates, and records of events? I guess you ARE in denial my friend. Why? Because it is simply based on my 1st question to you! .

***** "Your full of hot air Bruce." How can that be? I am merely asking questions. "Any credible scientist would be laughed right out of the room if they claimed the Bible was historically accurate." Oh..... and a "credible" scientist is more knowledgeable than an acclaimed archaeologist and historian!!!! Hmmmm....so we don't need historians and archaeologists..... the so called evolution of science will do it all. What has science got to do with the issue of this topic? I said nothing about science. The issue was the accuracy of the bible based on history and archaeology, As if to suggest that science does not need the "services" of historians and archaeologists. DEAD WRONG. We don't need science or scientists to tell us that ancient people built temples any more than we need scientists to tell us about the history of the Battle of Waterloo which happened 200 years ago to this day. Well let me tell you my friend. History and archaeology are undeniable facets of the evolutionary process, whether you like it or not.

Praise Jesus!

Praise Mohammad

Praise Allah

Buddha is the way.

Loved Dr Lennox . Thort the other fellow ok but 4 me he talked a little bit too long

Unfortunately, Professor Lennox can't discern fairy tales, fictions, myths, and bs from facts.

Agreed. He is one of the greatest minds out there imo. Made dawkins look foolish

Yes, he is a legend. I think whether or not he leads people to Christ thru his deep and intelligence answers (and I hope and honestly think he does), he solidifies my belief in the Holy Trinity. ❤

+Count Jinsula Me too! I'm so pleased that Jesus did not come today in America, in the times of lethal injection as a means of capital punishment. All the junkies would also tear up every time they had a fix. Lennox in his best BS mode. What about all the real people that love him? Surely he is pleased about that? I don't tear up - he cracks me up!!!

@@mickymillersson4376 and on the day of judgment, your smirk will change to horror TRUTH IS TRUTH and death is an unwelcome reality check

Yeah, that sounds exactly like delusion.

I really missed something in this comment thread

@@smashexentertainment676 like your delusion that you came from a rock? Lol

Do you believe in the return of the Christ? Do you acknowledge The Apocalypse/Revelation taking place? Donald Trump = 666: he's the current Antichrist. $atan/the enemy simply hates when truth exposes his lies. The word 'rapture' is NOT found in the Bible and it's a false interpretation/teaching. 12/21/12 marked the "end of the age" of Pisces and the beginning of the Age of Aquarius/New Age/Information Age/Messianic Age. I AM the returned Christ, Benjamin Franklin, Abraham Lincoln, and Albert Einstein reincarnated. I've fulfilled the prophecy of Rev 5:1 by producing the "book/scroll sealed with 7 seals". See 7seals.blogspot.com - that has triggered The Apocalypse/Revelation which is NOT the 'end of the world' - it's the 2nd Coming (E=mc²). Have you heard of the JesusFamilyTomb.com ?

Half of the talks of his that I've watched I find myself thinking "This man should be a bishop".

Amen!

How did you experience him? Where you an altar boy?

@Starfox Experiencing God by the person of Jesus Christ who by the death on the cross forgave my sins when I was still a sinner like you and the rest of humanity and was raised from the dead to give us eternal life and soon to be back to judge the dead and the living. I understand if you criticize me, I was like you before until I found myself on a very desperate moment came to my life and I found needing a savior. Your time will time Starfox but don't wait till it's too late. God bless!

Mark Lozada Not to be disrespectful,but you must see how your testimony is likely to be questioned due to your admission that your belief came at a "very desperate" (aka: emotionally vulnerable) time in your life. All the same information was available to you prior to your time of desperation.

@PaulNStein When a person was blind of his sin at that time he is blind and that's the reality of it. I just made a comment to Starfox's comment. This is not all my testimony. God has so changed my life inside and out that it's not enough for me to type in here using a cell phone. It's not an emotion thing my friend. I was just simply saying that "I was blind but now I see". When I said that I was desperate it didn't mean mean I had nothing. To be honest I had a better life before I found Jesus, better life in a worldly sense. I was desperate of a savior cos the more I see Jesus the more I see my being a sinner. My friend, I was already a so called born again Christian before when I was a child. Been playing drums in worship thinking I was already "ok" then found out that I'm really a sinner, oh and I was already a "good person" but that's not enough. Being good won't save a person but a real relationship with our Savior Jesus! God bless!

what does travel have to do with anything? Do you mean that by traveling knowledge can be obtained? What is wrong with simply reading? I can travel to any place at any time to real or imagined.

And he's also awesome at making millions from the God thing

Christian Thomas It's life, and blaming god is not the answer, but living it. 1 Peter 5:10 "And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish you".

Every other person born into a non-Christian culture is happy, healthy, strong, confirmed, and established? There are no problems or suffering outside of Christianity? The conquest of Canaan was ugly but had to be done. Yes, Jesus did order it to be done. So what? And what is your difficulty with the Ezekiel passage? The two sisters are a metaphor for the idolatry of Judah and Israel in the days of the divided kingdom. The Deuteronomy passage is a warning about how bad life for ancient Israel will get if they abandon God. What, you expected him to say life will continue to be hunky-dory if they do?

Hi Christian Thomas, it is a tragedy when a child or anyone dies of cancer. I had a lumpectomy in 2014, but I still believe in God. Jesus didn't order killing people in the Old Testament. When God did, I think you are referring to the Canaanites, He had a good reason. First, He gave them 400 years to repent, but they only grew worse. They were not nice people and you wouldn't want them for neighbors, and God didn't want them to be Israel's neighbors. They practiced all kinds of sexual perversion and sacrificed their children to their pagan gods.

Hello Joseph, I can't see electricity but I know it exists because of what it does.

Christian Thomas the bible’s claim is proof enough and more reasonable than your claim that there is no God

***** Considering these People where just Goat Herders, they knew stuff about the Universe that was impossible to know at that time, so no, it's not just some book! and advances in Scientific knowledge has proved this. The Bible was the first too say the Universe had a beginning!

Mike Dunn That's where you are wrong, some of the smartest people that lived and are currently living where all believers in a "Higher Being" I fully believe Science can not work unless one takes a Theological View! The Rise of Science, Newton, Galileo Johannes Kepleretc where all believers in God, they all believed that materialism was not all that there was.... I mean let's take Issac Newton for example, when he wrote his mathematical principia (Gravity), when he discovered the law of gravitation, did not make the common mistake of saying: ‘now I have a law of gravity, I don’t need God’. Instead, he wrote Principia Mathematica, the most famous book in the history of science, expressing the hope that it would persuade the thinking man to believe in a Creator. it takes a very narrow minded person indeed too say that materialism is all there is! Newton could see, what sadly many people nowadays seem unable to see...... So please, don't talk about intellect too me! Because it's just Ignorant.

***** I really can't believe your Ignorance right now! Religion and God are two different things, Newton did believe that there was Intelligent design in the Universe.. He defiantly did believe in a God. He was an advocate of Intelligent design... he wrote about it. Newton explicitly argued that all of the various kinds of living things in Nature were personally designed by God. His natural philosophy was meant to lead to God through the inductive method. For Newton nature was not the result of blind chance, but the product of a God who is everywhere and whose sight is limited neither in a physical or cognitive sense. He even said in his work's, that science could lead us to God, and for espousing Intelligent Design. PLEASE, Go and Read this if you can, or have time:www.newtonproject.sussex.ac.uk/view/texts/normalized/NATP00121 In this treatise, Newton explains his philosophy of Nature, which is firmly grounded in experimental observation, but at the same time thoroughly God centered. Newton also puts forward an Intelligent Design argument..

***** Yes, I believe all of them apart from the last one.... >> "Do you believe God is white man living in the sky" This statement is nothing more then a straw man argument and Ignorance, not only do you disparage philosophy, but also disparage sophisticated theology without even understanding it. Christians don’t believe in such silly and absurd things like that God is a man in the sky. God is ineffable. God cannot be material. The average person would leave Christianity tomorrow if you told him its true meaning was that there was an old man in the sky with a beard who has human emotions and thinks human like thoughts..... Nice try tho... but no!

Freedom FROM Atheism Actually, according to the Bible, God does have human emotions and human like thoughts.

Yoshi 20 Yes he is.

Art 20 intelligent and wise.

tyowongndeso I agree, he's my favorite Christian apologetic today.

Art 20 I just started to watch his video and read his book tho. what I like about him is that he's not judgemental, he encourages us to think and find our own answer, providing us his logic, so we can decide if his logic can be accepted. He responded our question but not determine the answer for us, we find the answer ourselves, for ourselves, for the growth of our own faith.

+Daniel Seven delusion much?!

@James Dare can you provide sturdy, irrefutable, empirical evidence that this god dude exists?! Yes/no?!

@James Dare 1. Its a chick then?! How do you know? 2. If it is sturdy, irrefutable, empirical evidence I would be forced to accept it smartypants! If your "evidence" is just allegorical, parabolical, mystical, biblical etc then yes, I will certainly reject it (as every reasonable and rational thinking person would do) So whats it gonna be Murph?

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Do you believe in the return of the Christ? Do you acknowledge The Apocalypse/Revelation taking place? Donald Trump = 666: he's the current Antichrist. $atan/the enemy simply hates when truth exposes his lies. The word 'rapture' is NOT found in the Bible and it's a false interpretation/teaching. 12/21/12 marked the "end of the age" of Pisces and the beginning of the Age of Aquarius/New Age/Information Age/Messianic Age. I AM the returned Christ, Benjamin Franklin, Abraham Lincoln, and Albert Einstein reincarnated. I've fulfilled the prophecy of Rev 5:1 by producing the "book/scroll sealed with 7 seals". See 7seals.blogspot.com - that has triggered The Apocalypse/Revelation which is NOT the 'end of the world' - it's the 2nd Coming (E=mc²). Have you heard of the JesusFamilyTomb.com ?

Amen!

+rationalmind Why are you atheist always trying to offend others that think different? I don't mean to disrespect anyone. If you disagree with our beliefs, just move along.

+rationalmind About the picture, I'm guessing you haven't watched "The Office". Moving on, it is because of reasoning that I came to my conclusion.You talk about science like it has the answers to everything yet science can't explain why it takes more genes to make a tomato than a human or explain consciousness. It is not my intention to start an argument, as I already know, that could go on for ever. My intention of my post was to share my faith with other believers. Which by the way, it is something we all have too, and science can't explain either. Have a good day dude.

+DwightShrute Anything you do not understand, GODFUCKINGDIDIIT, that ignorant statement answers nothing. Your god explains nothing not even his own existence.

+Crane Zilla lol why you mad bro? can you please explain where all that hate is coming from using the scientific method?

Why are you so desperate to sound like a crazy person? ;-)

Mmm, Nicely put

***** Come down and lick the dust. !

***** "My shit is made of dust with a drop of liquid, so is my shit heaven sent ?" Yes but first you ate the shit. Well YOU cooked it.

Zion Bound What will dust return to? Or do you believe dust is eternal?

***** Archeologists find ancient copies of the Qur’an all over the Middle East, and there’s many versions. It’s believed that none of the Medina verses, claiming Mohammed slaughtered Jews or Christians, let alone raped any, were written by Mohammed, but at Uthman’s command. Uthman was later assassinated. It’s entirely possible he had Mohammed assassinated because Mohammed was very pro-Christian. That, according to writings by his relatives. They discovered one in a tomb of a believer who passed away before Mohammed did, and it’s very small, not the size of the one today. And then they stopped talking. And, unable to use logic to prove atheism is real, Nietzsche went insane. Have you ever noticed, most atheist leaders are a little weird? Creepy. Ayn Rand would rave against religion. Sagan believed space aliens were coming for him. Mao, Lenin, Stalin were sadists. If your father is a Muslim, then you are. That’s their law. I have a copy of Ammi’s article and am working through it. Safarti’s as well. Each deserves to be studied. The IQ in secular nations is sinking. Sociologists blame it on their lifestyle. “If it feels good, do it.” My parents generation called it slow suicide. But, what do atheists have to live for?

***** Ah, but Uthman wrote the Qur’an, not Mohammed. After Mohammed died, Uthman had all copies of the Qur’an burned but what he wanted read. Shortly thereafter, Uthman was assassinated, and there’s rumors to this day he killed Mohammed so he could take over. He decided the rights of the caliph, a god-like position (Erogan of Turkey is being proposed as the first caliph in over a century). They’re finding a lot of Qur’an now from the time of Mohammed, and they do not match much of the Uthman Codex. Some do not have the Medina verses, where Mohammed is said to call for all-out war. One they think is from before Mohammed lived. Mohammed may well have been a Christian. One of his older wives was, and she’s the one he entrusted his own copy of the Qur’an to, which Uthman forced her to give up and destroyed. Yeah, wow, but some sheriff is being castigated for putting In God We Trust on the door of his patrol car. One major thing about atheists you need to understand--they believe the truth is relative to the situation. Today’s hard facts are yesterday’s stupid comments and weren’t really true, but might be tomorrow again. Narcissism is a very strong problem with atheists, as we can see from Dahmer and Ted Bundy, Hitler, Stalin, and so on. With the constant lowering of IQ among atheists, is it any wonder they’re narcissist? On Islam, keep in mind Jesus is a great prophet. Imams use the Name of Jesus to expel demons and plead blessings. Work from that angle, and that the Law of Moses is for those who are in disobedience. Those who obey God live under the blessings. Europe is going Nazi to stop the Muslim invasion. Major problem, Hitler allied with Muslims in order to fight Europeans. God’s peace to you.

***** But, many Christians became Muslim because they believed Mohammed. Most left after Uthman rewrote the Qur’an. Mohammed would not have added to the Bible. Also, he made war on the enemies of Christians, including the Ebonites. Uthman may have been influenced by the Ebonites, but were Mohammed not very pro-Christian, he never would have made the claims on the Bible as he did, the very word of God, if you have questions about your faith, ask the Jews and the Christians, the Jews and Christians are entitled to their land, and so on. No where does he claim the Bible is corrupt, but that it’s pure and protected by God. Uthman rewrote what he dared to. What Mohammed may have done is to create a book to teach with. Arabs didn’t have good writings in their own language. There are 4 major versions of the Qur’an, Arabian, Asian, Sufi, and black African. Minor versions abound. But, the fact is, archeologists are finding versions older than Uthman’s that are far different from his. But, try to get an answer from a Muslim. But this knowledge is growing common among Muslims, who question how Islam could be a religion of peace and yet produce ISIS and others.

Why does Jesus need a defense? And what makes you think that either of you are qualified? Did you get a diploma or something? ;-)

Do you happen to recall the name / time / place of these debates? I only ask because I just watched one between Dawkins and Lennox, and apart from when Lennox asks Dawkins "how do you know your wife is faithful" there seems to me no form of humiliation on Dawkins part.

Back again... Just watched a Hitchens Vs Lennox debate... Not really sure how you are coming to the conclusion that Lennox won that one either.. matter of fact, the debate was held in Alabama, and to my surprise (due only to geographical stereotyping) Hitchens got the FAR bigger applause at the end of the debate.

Pfft easy! Hitch is like Dawkins, just another hateful religion-hater. Bitter and stupid. Both just preach speculative philosophy, no more. And Dawkins even said himself to his rational response mob that Lennox totally out did him!. He said he was caught unawares, embarrased. Nuff said!. How does that not hammer home the point that Lennox won?? That and he called Dawkins arguments school boy grade... Getting onto Hitch, what a joke he was!. A pseudo intellectual, Dr Ravi zacharias(a colleague of lennox) also tore his arguments to shreds. True irony is the fact that these men who profess themselfs wiser without a belief in God are being completely trumped by men who profess totally the opposite.

Hence why I am asking for the video you are referring to here, because the one I watched (in my opinion) had an entirely different outcome, I am interested to see if we are talking about the same debate. Also wondering how you come to the conclusion that it is pseudo intellectualism that leads to statements like “What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.” sounds neither insincere or pretentious to me? Matter of fact, the opposite side of the coin there would be the pseudo intellectualism you speak of, yet seem to have trouble comprehending. If I make an unsubstantiated and non-testable claim, then insist others believe me, that sounds more within the realms of insincere and pretentious.

It was Lennox vs Dawkins. Pretty much every debate ive seen with Lennox, lennox always comes out on top. Theres WLC and Krauss, another great debate. And Dr Ravi zacharias

for what?! reinforce your delusions

@@Psartz Im sure to naive, gullible and uneducated people ot may seem that way, yes

@@Psartz Ignorance is not an argument

@@Psartz how about you?!

@@Psartz "provide evidence for what i have asked..." Mpffff... you are obviously and evidently not friends with logic, reason and rationaitly. Its the duty of the one making the claims to back them up with adequate evidence you brainiac, not the other way around. So why dont you ask the religious freaks and fanatics to back up theri silly, absurd, outlandisch and tbh pretty fckd up claims huh.

Indeed, atheist and I'll throw in academic think their beliefs trump the belief of others.

LOVE is real and its not an emotion. Thought I'd respond to that question.

So you are saying that you became delusional on your own. Phew... at least your parents are off the hook, then. ;-)

much the same can be said, and truthfully so, about evolution with it's "proofs' continually being proven false; example: Nebraska Man- found upon investigation to be built up from a pig's tooth [yes, a pig's tooth, that's all it was] and lots of imagination and wishful thinking. follows the same pattern as peking man.. Lucy[a three foot tall chimpanzee], peking man.. and on and on...

stillwill2215 If you think evolution is continually being proved wrong then you are way out of touch. Ask any scientist. There have been a few hoaxes but it really isn't "and so on and so on." They are relatively rare. There is a massive amount of evidence for evolution and if you think that most of it is a sham and is constantly being proved wrong then you must be reading mostly Christian based news.

English Channeled Is evolution atheistic? Not by common terminology. Of course atheism means "without theism" so by that def then it is atheistic. But by common terms the theory of Darwinian Evolution is agnostic. Agnosticism flies in the face of Christianity tho. And when I made my comment I was arguing against Stillwill2215 who seems to be a Christian and argues that evolution is a hoax.

English Channeled Very good point. Officially, agnosticism holds that we can never know if there is a god or not, and Darwinian Evolution does not make that kind of claim. But its hard to imagine an "ardent theist" who believes in Evolution. I mean it must be the kind of ardent theist that strongly believes the stories in the bible are to be viewed as metaphor. These kind of theist don't strike me as being very ardent.

English Channeled But you have to factor in the specifics. For example, homosexuality. The bible says that it is a sin, but Darwinian Evolution says it is ingrained into the genome. Why would god create people who are naturally predisposed to sin? Why would god say it is man's duty to be fruitful and multiply, and create sinners who are incompatible with this proclamation? It flies in the face of reason. Darwinian Evolution is a product of reason, while theism is incompatible with reason alone. And BTW I agree with Hugh Min that humor is possibly the highest pursuit of humanity.

If god exists, then she will have a serious word with John Lennox and it won't be pleasant. ;-)

@@lepidoptera9337 oh, and why is that?

@@bobbieolsen7264Dude... you don't know about Exodus 20:7 and Deuteronomy 5:11? Is that the best home schooling gets you? You don't even know your bible? John Lennox made a business out of god. ;-)

These professors are all corrupt in what they teach. God is great scientist. There is nothing that is made from nothing all are elements read these from LDS. Book this, D &C 131, In the celestial glory there are three heavens or degrees; 2 And in order to obtain the highest, a man must enter into this order of the priesthood [meaning the new and everlasting covenant of marriage]; 3 And if he does not, he cannot obtain it. 4 He may enter into the other, but that is the end of his kingdom; he cannot have an increase. 5 (May 17th, 1843.) The more sure word of prophecy means a man’s knowing that he is sealed up unto eternal life, by revelation and the spirit of prophecy, through the power of the Holy Priesthood. 6 It is impossible for a man to be saved in ignorance. 7 There is no such thing as immaterial matter. All spirit is matter, but it is more fine or pure, and can only be discerned by purer eyes; 8 We cannot see it; but when our bodies are purified we shall see that it is all matter. Also read d&c 130, 20 There is a law, irrevocably decreed in heaven before the foundations of this world, upon which all blessings are predicated- 21 And when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated. 22 The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us. 23 A man may receive the Holy Ghost, and it may descend upon him and not tarry with him.