Christianity: Good or Bad for Mankind? - Dinesh D'Souza vs. Andrew Bernstein 

Andrew, educate idiot.

And what conclusion follows from those premises?

@Intellectual Trumpster lol! the guy literally change the subject when dinesh put some facts to his claims.

@Intellectual Trumpster in the first part of the debate bernstein told all the horror of christianity and painted it like it was the greatest crime of humanity then denesh answered it all with facts and it turns out that the death counts of all of the christian history wasn't even comparable to the 100yrs of Atheist German,Russian and Chinese death counts. then he completely ignored the topic like it didn't happened.

Because he is blessed by God.

It does not but it does not say as Bernstein is saying that belief in God somehow stop or halts that discovery. Let us not forget that RELIGION and SCIENCE both came about the same EXACT way. People wanted to know more about the universe around them.

James Bobik The difference is that science gives us a more accurate description of reality.

I think it is totally preferential ignorance to eliminate the infinite unless of course you are finite. I have found that keeping an open mind toward faith and science has given me the greatest understanding. It would seem logically that it would.

It does not follow that because someone is a Christian that they can't discover or invent anything. When did Bernstein make that argument?

Yet scientists have been persecuted as witches or shaman when their discoveries threatened an arbitrarily chosen deity..... Yes. Religion has held humanity back. It's time to divorce yourself from your invisible friend and follow evidence rather than fairy tales

Praying for Bernstein to see the light..before he leaves this earth..God bless♡

@Intellectual Trumpster Don't worry in a few years you can take this up with God.

I don't believe in them either but History has Proven that there is a God. Also God says there is no such thing as an Atheist.

@@deangailwahl8270 yes and Zeus told me that I must fight a 12 headed hydra to gain access to elysium.

@@ryanp8230 WHAT?

"Thank you for your defense of something that has not been proven to exist."

@@smaaash94 ...so now Christianity doesn't exist? Let me guess, you struggle with literacy?

Intellectual Trumpster shut up islam

He can't run he wasn't born in the U.S

@@TheComicbookguy78, Neither was Obammy!

Beloved I'm not white nor black but foriegn. But given a privilege to love God's will and COMMANDMENTS. Which my true forefathers of this country, who are white and black. What makes them 1? Upholders of the will of God. 1st love God 2nd love thy neighbors as thyself. These 2

You mean the guy who lost his job as the president of a Christian college because he cheated on his wife? the guy that was found guilty of campaign fraud?

adam thorpe ...watch his debate March 2020 with Matt Dillahunty.

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Bernstein’s argument was weak. He knows little of the history of Christianity.

Yes he cannot take on Chris hitchens.chris would slap his Brains in

"and by God" lol i see what you mean

You having a laugh? Never heard of the Crusades, and the Spanish inquistion😂😂😂😂. Oh dear!

@@kevincasson9848 u mean the crusades that were launched because of muslim aggresion in the middle east, muslims were killing and enslaving millions of Christians in the middle east and they asked for help from the Christian west, and the old big horrible Spanish inquisition where only a very few thousand people died? Have u heard about the millions of people that were slaughtered by atbeist communist regimes that you love? 🤣🤣🤣🤣Your leftist talking points dont work anymore

@@kevincasson9848 And putting Galileo in jail for practicing science. And didn't modern science expand during the Enlightenment, when religion eased toward humanism and the classics of Greece and Rome became more popular.

Spot on

Right!

Kevin Corbin I wish an atheist will stick to the 20’s century! They always go back to hundreds of years ago!

Kevin Corbin Yeah, centuries of history is just anecdotal. THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON CHRISTIANITY.

Mr Banks Can you offer a single example of double talk? I bet you can’t.

It`s obvious that Bernstein has never read the bible. He`s talking more about the history of christians and not enough about the principles of christianity. He`s the one who`s thoughts are corrupted by philosophical principles and that`s a major mistake.

@@GreatLakesLogger Maybe it`s too complicated for him to understand. He`s not the brightest. If I`d put on a clowns-mask and do a robbery he`d say: "arrest the clowns for they are bad."

What a dumbass Are you saying you agree with this disgusting peace of shit danish? How embarrassing

Bernstein uses this event to regurj Ayn Rand epist. So lazy.

​@@Zerocorrupt-Sifu The principles of Christianity? Like pacifism, demonization of sexuality (as if god wasn't the one that supposedly created sexual urges), collectivism, servility etc? Wholesome, rational philosophy to live by, not. Its pretty rich to accuse someone of stupidity while you believe in patently absurd, debunked fairy tales.

What would your church be I wonder? Let me guess your a Mormon. So how is your church practicing what the original Christians practiced compared to the holy sacrifice of the Mass

to be honest, Dinesh obliterated this guy, this bernstein guy lost me during his rants :) i respected them both but Dinesh presents his facts and examples better...I've been watching debates like these recently and this guy bernstein is not one of the smartest chicks out there in this level of debate. love debate though need more of this in our world not some bias ass bs :)

Theres no facts when discussing religion. Theres only belief and bling faith

+Kevin Boucher He gave the argument. If you are familiar with Objectivism, I am surprised you missed it: supernatural being is a logical impossibility, because if it exists it is natural (part of nature). So at most "God" is an alien being, just another creature in the universe.

+Boris Reitman Pretty flimsy logic.

+Kevin Boucher Actually, the main argument is that no such disproof is necessary, even if God was a natural being. There is no requirement to disprove an arbitrary negative assertion. The one who makes a positive assertion must present facts. For instance, let's say I claim that you have murdered a man yesterday, without showing any supporting evidence. You will not be able to disprove it. Even if you have an alibi, I could claim that you payed someone to kill that man on your behalf.

you're cute! :)

You mean convicted felon. He is a convicted felon and professional con man...

Is he? Do you know about him?

Do you really judge truth by quality of presentation? Can the better argument really support a religion with a provable history of horrors and a source book fool of clearly visible atrocities, simply by talking it all away by claiming that its adherents had some nice virtues, too, and that non-believers were also guilty of cruelties? Let me be honest with you. Every time I see a debate between a speaker who attempts to glorify a view that claims knowledge of the unseen, and an opponent who points out that there's no evidence for that view, then I can only come down on the side of the latter. I remain somewhat surprised, even at my age (59), to see the former being lauded in the comments. Until I look at the comments! "Gift from God. Beautifully articulated." Any false view can be polished by brilliant sales talk. My advice: don't fall for it. Analyse the content!!

@@benvanrensburg4261 Dinesh used a lesser rhetorical method. He argued Bernstein rather than Christianity. There is no objective reason for our present world to be any better than any other world. We do no know enough about Dinesh's future world than Bernstein knows about the past.

2drsdan Great line.

Agree, can’t miss that NY accent.

To my Indian ear I thought he sounded like the mafia, turns out it's NY accent.

You know an Athiest is in trouble when be began to call on God's help.

yeah, right. Who can possibly argue that blind faith, irrationality, superstition, and lack of skepticism can possible be bad for humanity. We all know that Christianity never engendered psychotic attitudes toward sex, or impeded scientific progress and civil liberties. What an intelligent, good bunch of people those christians.

@@kill.all.liberals6865 - ‘those’ Christians u speak of were the Roman Catholic System and do not represent the message of Christ but a Beast System. Until the enlightenment science and the pursuit of knowledge repressed as ignorance was power. The message of Jesus Christ is so maligned by those who say they are followers of the message of Christ and are not. They don’t even know the message - which is the coming Kingdom of God on earth.

Can you provide the facts, or is this a conclusion based on theory?

I will have no choice but to agree the day when any one of you believers walks on the water for me.

@@benvanrensburg4261 I'm afraid that nowhere in the Bible does it say that a believer in Christianity can perform miracles simply by believing. Jesus did that, there's a reliable historical record in regards to that. It isn't proof, but in 2000 years they will be no proof that you existed either, so definitive proof is a ridiculous thing to expect

I guess you haven't seen the top debaters like Dan Barker, Bart Ehrman, Michael Shermer, Alex Oconner. D'Sousa is the best theist debater, kind of like a top corporate lawyer, slick and polished. You have to see him up against the top athiests, where his "slick" arguments don't work, they really fall flat.

Because man has free will gift from god, and with that man tends to choose or make the wrong decisions based off what they want or feel that they want which can be evil but not always. Sorry if that sounds confusing, let me know and i will try to elaborate. I like that Quote man, i forgot Epicurus said that from Philosophy.

***** Exactly. Good point there.