Circa Survive on Mental Health, The Failings of Capitalism, and Local Music Scenes 

That tool love you showing through your avatar tho!!!! You love Tool and Circa you must be me in another dimension... rad bruh! Hi me/you 👋

As should

He has a podcast!

Facts

Drummer bassist guitarist ?

Nah bro, sorry.

@@blueroslyn298 aww maaann :(

Really? Regarding capitolism? What kind of smart phone are you using?

@@freshguy54 Reductive, outdated, and embarrassing “gotcha” attempt. You know everyone can see all of your other comments like this in one place right? Where you try the tired, sad “h-hey! You say there are issues with capitalism??? Hmm nice iPHONE!” I know whatever you say next will be equally as dull and bad faith so don’t get too excited, nobody wants to go back and forth for too long with someone like that. I just wanted to let you know that nobody else is as impressed by your trite bullshit as you are lol

​@@roblosh8417 Your statement is all feelings and no facts. Lemme guess, you believe in Socialism? LOL.

@@roblosh8417 yeah dude never question the flawless ness of capitalism ya dunce. Which smartphone are you using? The Vietnam made one or the China made one?

@@roblosh8417 it’s really not tho. You have no problem benefitting from capitalism when it suits you but is still a choice you make. Them asking why you have a smart phone is a valid question considering you’re not forced to use one. Have any of you guys actually read Marx? Or do you jus let copy and paste of Reddit at this point?

I may not agree with you, but at least you didn't argue that capitalism drives innovation. If it did, I'm pretty sure the new iPhone would actually be different than the last iPhone.

@@droptherapy2085 i wouldnt know. Never owned an iPhone. But thats partly because of capitalism. Capitalism promotes competition. If u dont like one supplier, there are others out there.

100% this.

if that were so, early humans would have never developed the beginings of what we have now. animals don't naturally do things for some make believe "profit incentive", they do it for their community. capitalism is a system that requires infinite growth on a planet with finite resources. just look at climate change, its happening because of capitalism

@@droptherapy2085 yes because our technology has advanced immensely over the last 50 years because of communist wannabe intellectuals.

Exactly. Trash the systems that allowed them to become who they are today. Everyone remembers all the great socialist bands.

thats the issue...

“Lol you say you have a criticism of capitalism, yet you live in capitalism??”

Marx would want you paid for your labor, man. This is a bogus argument.

“You say you hate slavery, yet you’re a slave. Curious”

Markets and the buying and selling of goods isn't capitalism.

But it's your right to deny him the right to express that opinion? An opinion that, mind you, has been expressed in a way for over 100 years... Maybe consider the idea that there might be some truth to what he's saying. And while your at it, imagine this scenario which happened countless times in feudal history: An obedient serf who's had a life of good harvests tells a hardworking peasant who's blaming the state of their hellish life on the region's ruler, "How ungrateful you are for all our lord, and our king, have given us. Sure, your daughters are in the brothel for food and shelter and your sons died in the kings war, but what about his forest our majesty allows you to hunt in?! Be grateful, peasant..." And if you don't think we have the modern equivalent of peasants then you have lived blinded by privelege.

@@LabGoats Hierarchies will always exist. People have never been equal they never will be. Oh you found out hierarchies are unfair. Well that's how it is you won't ever live in a world without hierarchies so get that idea out of your head. It's fucking childish.

If there wasn't benifits (real and fake told to us) we wouldn't have that system. With that said, although some benifits it also break us down and kills us. Capitalism and American capitalism.

And just that mindset of not fighting or speaking out against those inequalities bc "there will always be" some is the most dull argument I've ever heard that does nothing right to you, your next and the next generation. Does nothing to fix the problem.

@@jonatanmarklund7473 its fucked but it works

just because you didn't know what capitalism was doesn't mean it didn't affect you, not knowing about something doesn't put you in a vacuum devoid of the consequences of the given societal system you live in. for millions of years people didn't know what bacteria was but it for sure affected them. he wasn't saying that capitalism is the root of all mental illness, certainly some people are just born with genetic predisposition to it, but capitalism exacerbates it. there's also so many people that are depressed or suffering from anxiety disorders simply because they're overworked, poor, stressed, not sleeping enough, marginalized, etc.; all issues that capitalism is a root cause of or makes worse.

fullmetalfunk socialism, capitalism, communism, etc... etc... mental illness exists in all of those political systems:/// I could easily see how the idea that it tends to fester and grow within a capitalist society is believable, but what is the alternative within which it could improve? capitalism can also be argued to improve mental health by offering an opportunity for advancement. I think the human condition, being a human, is enough of a reason for mental health issues. we are destined to fall and destined to climb. back and forth, to and fro. there's no one cause. 🤔 edited to add ❤️:///

@@kineticblues2766 The solution is to have NO system and let humans live like humans, the way we have been living for hundreds of thousands of years; hunting and living, maintaining and living in nature. No money, no government, no infrastructure or anything. Of course, electricity and internet would still exist, obviously. Reverting to our ancestors pagan lifestyle will cure every single thing that ails the white race (or whatever race you are, just revert back to your ancestors ways).

@@kineticblues2766 the alternative to capitalism *is* socialism. socialism isn't just an opposite to capitalism, it's not like just the other end of a spectrum, it's a whole paradigm shift. it's a system through which we try to better the experience of the human condition by putting the needs of the working class above all others, thus serving the greatest amount of good and working towards the ultimate end of communism: a stateless, classes, moneyless society, devoid of bigotries and through which all humans work together for the betterment of all. there would still be mental illness in a socialist, and even a communist society, indeed mental illnesses exist in present socialist countries, but the way in which they're treated is generally much better than in capitalist ones, especially in America. and it's not just how they're treated in a medical setting but how the underlying causes and triggers of mental illness are treated broadly in a socialist society as well. things like workload, time off, fulfillment, and community are greatly improved under socialism, which help. i don't think you can say capitalism helps mental illness through offering advancement. some people do indeed advance in a capitalist system but most all people stay where they are, or actually fall down the socio-economic ladder. certainly capitalism is an improvement over feudalism, or mercantilism, but socialism is the next step in human social evolution, and part of that is actually allowing for true advancement of the working class, not through the rise and fall of some invisible free market hand, and the luck of being born in the right place at the right time to the right parents, but through systemic changes in governance and economics that allow the working class ownership over their own labor.

@@kineticblues2766 Ben P sounds like a nazbol/anprim, and most certainly a reactionary, don't listen to them. we need "systems" whether governmental, economic, educational, industrial, etc. in place to build a better world. our ancestors wouldn't have come out of the forests and jungles and down off the mountains and formed communities and systems of governance and economy if it didn't benefit them. reverting back to some romanticized vision of primitive living that didn't actually exist will not help us. there would also be no electricity, internet, medicine, or any other modern amenities that we enjoy without any form of infrastructure like they claim either. that's naive idealism.

@SC O'Dubhlaoch isn't it funny that its usually poor people, without actual hope to move up on the social ladder but entranced by the propaganda to believe, that maybe, if they work hard enough, or cheat the system enough, they'll strike it rich; are the ones that defend the same system that keeps them poor and alienated ?

@SC O'Dubhlaoch tell that to people living in bangladesh

@SC O'Dubhlaoch ok hahaha now I know Im talking to a crazy person, just ignore me & keep shining on you crazy diamond

capitalism IS anti-individualism. You'd be more free without it, or with it heavily regulated.

@@xanthelinhs2143 China and Venezuela would beg to differ. I personally know Venezuelans who fled bec of the anti-individualism and corruption.