Circle K EV Fast Charging Comes to New England🔋 - FIRST IMPRESSIONS from Dover, NH

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Let's take a trip up to New Hampshire, the land that DC fast charging forgot. Convenience store brand -- and birthplace of Excellent Adventures -- Circle K is making a small dent in that lack of DCFC with this new 120 kw CCS location in Dover, NH.
We were in the area and drove over to check it out...
Chapters:
0:00 - Start
0:21 - Intro
0:36 - Circle K's first New England location
1:20 - Clunky old app
2:50 - Seamless start up
6:58 - Session summary
7:40 - Circle K's plans for North America
9:00 - New Hampshire's dearth of DCFC
9:15 - Close
Plugshare Location: www.plugshare.com/location/48...
Circle K Charging Map: circlek.com/Charge
Here's how we planned an EV trip further north, to New Hampshire's White Mountains, with only L2 charging: • Planning EV Road Trips...
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@plugandplayEV Год назад

Has Circle K charging shown up in your area yet? Which rising charging provider do you want to see expand the most?

@JohnRoss1 Год назад

The Circle K / Couche-Tard app in Canada only shows the locations in Quebec and one Circle K in Lancaster (Eastern Ontario) none in the US.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

@@JohnRoss1 Just checked our app and it only shows US stations, none of those just over the border that show up on the website map. Perhaps not set up to take payment cars or verify addresses in the different countries.

@mowcowbell Год назад

Circle K doesn't exist in Oklahoma, so the answer is no unfortunately. This is the land of 7-11, Casey's, QuikTrip and OnCue.

@Paul-cj1wb 8 месяцев назад

You can find a map on their website that shows the active and coming soon locations. Like Steve said, in the US the Southeast has the most locations, mostly in the Carolinas right now with quite a few being built in Georgia as well. It's surprising that Canada doesn't have more since they are a Canadian owned conglomerate. The Scottsdale/Phoenix, Arizona area is full of Circle Ks, but on the times I've been there I have yet to see a location with EV charging. And the area is full of EVs with electricity being fairly cheap there while gas in pretty high. Around $4.50 per gallon for regular when I was there in October.

@plugandplayEV 8 месяцев назад

@@mowcowbell I've been impressed with how often OK comes up in the public DCFC conversation though, to be fair. Granted, it's sometimes to moan about Francis Energy, but there's also a lot of different hardware deployed there before it hits other markets (see the most recent Quick Charge video on ADS-TEC Energy's ChargeBox, for example, which hs been in Edmond, OK for months). Re. Circle K, they seem to be running regional bursts of activations. So the Southeast was first, then California had some activations, and more recently Minnesota got some attention. The Northeast has remained quiet, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a new wave of installations in another market very soon.

@thenetworkarchitectchannel Год назад

I am up in Charlotte, NC near the epicenter of Circle K DCFC rollout activity. The ones they are putting in here are ABB 180 kW units. We have about five sites in NC and two just accross our borders. The one to the north is in an area where two interstates intersect (I-77 & I-81) that is notorious for heavy traffic. The EA station is off-line and will be for awhile, but Circle K came to save the day with a brand new install We are also getting one on the coast, one on I-95, the one in Boone, NC is already operational, one just to the west of Charlotte, and another to the north of Greensboro. It is really exciting to see them start their roll out. They are a big player for DCFC in Europe and I hope they bring their same A game here to the states. Seven 11 too has a similar program, but I bet Circle K laps them several times in site counts as both roll out. Thx for the vid. I enjoyed watching.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Thanks for the comment and insights. There seem to be plenty of public fast charging complaints in that area, so hopefully these new providers will improve the situation. The more competition the better.

@thenetworkarchitectchannel Год назад

@@plugandplayEV Yeah, specifically Raleigh, NC was hit hard with an EVgo Renew plan. They have an awesome number of EVgo renew sites there. Over here in Charlotte, only three with one more in line. But looks to be a sleeper I just did a vid on. Looks like Ultium Charge 360 sites at Pilot Flying J are getting ready to come online and we have six in NC on the punch list. That should help big time too.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Excellent info in there and across your other videos, as far as I can tell... sorry I haven't caught on to them sooner. Just subscribed and looking forward to catching up!

@Slapsco Год назад

Great review. Greetings from Laval, QC ! Home of Couche-Tard (Circle K) Head Office. Around here, we have seen the first 180 KW chargers get installed and running over the past 12 months. I wish there were more of them when crossing in the New England region. I guess it's a matter of time. Let's hope for ti!!

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Bienvenue! The Circle K map actually looks quite promising for my region, until you zoom in and realize that all but one of the stations are across the border in Quebec and Ontario! Great to see them rolling out though, wherever that may be, and hoping that the VT/NH routes get some love in the form of 180kW stations soon! Thanks for the comment 👍

@user-oo3uj5ku9r Год назад

Thanks for the video!

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Thanks for watching!

@anthonyc8499 Год назад

Nice review! The biggest issue i see with this site is that it’s a single-unit station which means that it’s a single point of failure. I really wish Circle K would deploy a minimum of 3 units to ensure backup hardware options and optimally being able to charge a half dozen EVs simultaneously.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Cheers! To be fair, this doesn't seem to be the norm for their installations so far. Most seem to be the 180kW hardware and four stalls, which is pretty solid going for the early days of the network. This location is just a bit off the beaten path, as I mentioned, so I doubt it justified a full four stalls.

@anthonyc8499 Год назад

@@plugandplayEV to advocate for the idea of additional chargers, I would argue that more chargers at a station induces its own demand. Locals and travelers will gravitate to stations where they can be assured of getting a fast charge. They'll even accept a little inconvenience to get there if it means that a charger will be available and working upon arrival. Single-charger stations are often avoided like the plague because it's a coin-flip at best if you can get a charge. Unreliability is perhaps the greatest enemy of EV adoption.

@W4rH4wkXX Год назад

very cool ... the more the better 💪💪

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Agreed, the competition is coming and it's about time!

@homomorphic Год назад

Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Sharing at 60kW? Bogus.

@lmamakos Год назад

Went looking for just this comment. Well done. EXCELLENT!

@mrleeboston Год назад

This is a very convenient location if you are coming from Wolfsboro and the lake there - there has not been anything in this immediate area before. I charged here on Saturday and found that the 'B' plug did not work for my ID4. This meant many, many start attempts and many re-entries of my signup info, ultimately leading to my cards getting rejected due to failed charge attempts. Went fine on the 'A' plug and gave me 105-110 charge rate. Kids liked the shop as it is a new-ish and very clean Circle K with large food selection.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Ugh, that sounds much more troublesome that my session,, though again the app seems to be the major sticking point. I'll make a note to try both connectors on dual chargers in future, given that both are supposed to be available for use even if another EV is plugged in. I see your point about Wolfeboro/rt. 16. It seemed very quiet during my visit, but I can imagine this being a popular route up to the Whites and surrounding lake getaways. We'd normally just head up 93 and jog across through the mountains, but I imagine this is quite a scenic alternative to that.

@Runtythestar Год назад

Dover's a great option for anyone going to Portsmouth/Kittery. Thanks for reviewing it.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Glad it's helpful for some routes... guess I need to stop being so obsessed with Interstates as the only roads people will want to drive!

@michaellippmann4474 Год назад

Hey Steve...really interesting, we have a huge number of Circle K stations in SW Ontario none with EV Charging yet though. EV adoption in our area seems to be pretty slow - lots of legacy automakers families around but saying that there seems to a lot of Tesla owners in my neck of the woods and 2nd most popular has to be the Mach E. So DCFC distribution is slower than when you get around the London area and Eastward toward Toronto. Still, we find no real difficulty in traveling and getting a charge for our Kona. Still waiting for our EV6 which hopefully will bein the not too distant future! Anyway, great review, Thank you and have a great day! Mike

@plugandplayEV Год назад

I guess many of the early adopters only really need DCFC 150-200 miles in any direction you travel away from home, so it sounds like you're all set for the moment! Nonetheless, it's always good to see DCFC expansion, as it typically means more EVs on local roads will follow. Hope you start seeing that soon!

@newscoulomb3705 Год назад

Thanks, Steve! I'm still waiting for the first Circle K locations to open in my region. Heck, the new model 7 Eleven sites near me haven't opened yet.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Cheers! This was a strange one to see pop up, but NH is closer than many parts of Mass to me, so I was glad to see it. No 7 Eleven chargers online here yet either... there's one in the center of MA that is in line for some state-level funds, though, so we'll hopefully have one soon. How are you feeling about the ever-expanding suite of apps required to serve all these new providers?

@newscoulomb3705 Год назад

@@plugandplayEV Frankly, I think it's a troubling trend, and it's one that's not likely to last. I think we're seeing a disproportionate representation of high-mileage travelers in the current population of EV owners (who are also early adopters happy to sign up for new apps and programs). To me, it's reminiscent of video streaming services from about 10 years ago. It was manageable when there were only a few, but it's gotten to a point where consumers are disconnecting and pushing back. I think that in 5 to 10 years time, you'll be lucky to find a public charging station that doesn't support credit card payments.

@brianriebedriveselectric Год назад

Looks pretty slick once the app is set up. I’m guessing the low screen is for ADA considerations. Thanks for taking the time to check it out!

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Yep, ADA makes sense but that glare was a bummer at any level or angle! Have to see if the 180kW installations up here are the same, if and when they happen.

@davids9577 Год назад

My brother purchased an Ioniq 5 in NY and I helped him on the drive home back to Florida. They almost bought a Tesla instead of the Ioniq because when his wife adjusted how she liked to sit while driving, the speed is blocked. They only went with it after they learned about the heads-up display. I had the same problem driving the Ioniq and my eyes and brain did not get along with the HUD. Apparently this is a known issue for some people. So I drove it without seeing the speed unless I leaned over to see it. They really need to change the main as its current design wastes a lot of real estate for those 2 giant curves. At the time the route planner didn't really exist. But last month on their drive from Florida to British Columbia, they received the route planner upgrade and that made all the difference. That car is amazing from a build/hardware standpoint (loved the interior!!) and the software will improve over time. I am sure they will have to redesign that poorly laid out display. This is a fantastic 800volt EV! I love the charging curve.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Interesting, I'm glad they were able to make it work for them. I've certainly found positions where the speed was blocked, but quickly adjusted to a position where I was both comfortable and could see the mph readout. Same for my wife. And as you point out, the HUD makes this a moot point, if you can use it. The route planner actually disappointed me a bit, as it doesn't tell me much I can't already find in A Better Route Planner, and misses a lot of basic functionality such as arrival SOC and anticipated efficiency. Still, it's better than nothing as an easy to access, out of the box solution, and can be improved as Hyundai releases future navigation updates. And if your family members are driving from southeastern US to western Canada, I guess it works just fine! Thanks for the sharing their experiences.

@rose415 Год назад

Ty great vid 9:30

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Thank you!

@joshmatlock1020 Год назад

Kyle Conner has seen a Cirle K station in Colorado near where he lives.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

They are certainly nationwide, though most so far seem to be popping up around the Carolinas and Virginia. The tech people are based around that region, if I recall correctly, so it would make sense that they start there.

@DivineDart Год назад

the route 16 section of NH horrible. Shocking there's no DC fast chargers in North Conway

@plugandplayEV Год назад

It really is poor, especially compared to neighboring VT and the much larger expanse of Maine. Sure, the latter still has some gaps to close, but the initial Dieselgate funds have been spent well and several routes have been open for years. NH has a lot of work to catch up.

@DivineDart Год назад

@@plugandplayEV it's rough because that's a long day trip loop i like to take, north conway through the mountains and down on i-93 and it's difficult to plan out unless you have a tesla.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Yeah, the L2 charging has made it work for us when we've visited for a few days but if you're not staying or hiking for a few hours, that won't cut it. At least NH is finally showing some signs of life with spending its VW cash, so a couple of well-placed stations will be a game-changer for the trip you describe... hell, now I want to drive up and take the Ioniq 5 up Mt. Washington!

@DivineDart Год назад

@@plugandplayEV i'd love to take that trip in general, been here for 30+ years and never went up!

@mikecarter2737 Год назад

Circle K off hwy 50 Rancho Cordova CA oddly has a BTC Power "fat boy" branded as Shell Recharge.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

There seems to be a lot of that in these early days. Other brands at Shell stations when you'd think Shell Recharge would be the move, or brands like Circle K already having existing hardware on competing networks as they roll out their own solution. Just the nature of lots of legacy installs and the big names buying up smaller providers, I think, as Shell did with Greenlots not so long ago.

@mikecarter2737 Год назад

@@plugandplayEV I wonder if franchisees are making their own deals with whatever charging network? It is chaos.

@bobwhit1544 Год назад

Circle K had the distinction of installing the first DCFC charger on Hilton Head Island in SC. Like Cape Cod, it's seen as a destination, so level 2 chargers dominate there. But for the population and road network fast charging is sorely lacking, especially as high rates of condo residences makes home charging less straightforward. Unfortunately they went with a single 24 kW charger and a fairly unreliable one at that. Hard to understand why they would begin the process with obsolete tech.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Very odd... if it's a power limitation issue, you'd think something like the FreeWire Boost would be suitable . Those have been used in some limited locations around the Northeast, though the reliability there seems to be patchy as well. Hopefully it was just some sort of very early pilot and they'll be upgrading it soon, as that seems like an area that gets especially busy this time of year.

@bobwhit1544 Год назад

@@plugandplayEV I hope so too, that one went in last spring and it's still the only one within 30 miles. I'm thinking it's definitely a power limitation issue. And maybe a zoning issue as well. Space at a premium on the island.

@BensEcoAdvntr Год назад

I'm getting curmudgeonly about all the new DCFC networks that *require* activation through the app but don't have roaming agreements. It's clear any company that does this doesn't understand the EV road trip driver. If I'm far from home, they've needlessly extended my trip for the sign up/registration. I'll use it once if desperate, but never again. I already have Blink, ChargePoint, EA, EV Connect, EVGateway, EVgo, SemaConnect, Shell Recharge, SWTCH, and Volta apps. It's kind of absurd. Credit card readers should be a requirement for any new public DCFC install.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

I hear you, it's definitely not the way forward. In the absence of roaming agreements, NFC activation via a common digital wallet would be interesting. Set up an account one time but avoid the bloat of tens of apps clogging up the phone. Especially when they're generic like the app shown here and add no real value to the process.

@homomorphic Год назад

Just checked there is a 3x180kW Circle K "coming soon" near me

@plugandplayEV Год назад

I'm trying to understand the logic behind sites that get a CHAdeMO head vs those that don't. Those out west seem to have both, where as in the southeast it seems to be 50/50. Wonder if they'll start factoring in the Tesla connector now as well, given the early stage of the network and ability to get in front of that curve... so many questions!

@homomorphic 11 месяцев назад

@@plugandplayEV this station is open now, went there last night. Was at a high SoC (47%) but I got 144kW which is excellent for that SoC in my experience. Payment worked flawlessly. The handles are a bit bulky though (but if that makes them more robust that is probably a good thing).

@plugandplayEV 11 месяцев назад

@@homomorphic It was presumably a more heavy duty handle than the 200A Power Electronics one at the NH site. Good stuff at that percentage, though... thanks for the update!

@patrick7228 Год назад

This is exciting. Why in the world aren't there more level 3 chargers on Cape Cod as much of a traveling destination as that is? I want to take the electric there but might have to take an i.c.e.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

I think the general thought has been that the Cape is a destination and L2 charging will be sufficient. That doesn't really cater to day trippers, though, nor does it allow for what is a fairly limited number of J1772 plugs on the Cape. There are state-funded DCFC locations lined up for South Dennis, Chatham, Brewster, and Eastham, but those aren't scheduled to be in until 2024. The one positive I found in driving up the Cape is that the roads are pretty slow, especially when it's busy, so the energy you add juicing up at Cape Cod Mall to push on goes that little bit further.

@patrick7228 Год назад

@@plugandplayEV Interesting. Staying in a resort there for a week in July in Yarmouth. Not too far from Cape Cod Mall. It seems the only level 3 is there and it's just 4 EA stations and per Plug Share at least 2 are often down. Just can't decide if I want to risk it. Worried about being stuck without being able to charge. Resort doesn't offer any L2 charging or even a place to plug in for L1

@plugandplayEV Год назад

@@patrick7228 Honestly, I think you'll be totally fine if you're that close to the mall and also staying around for a week. The EA location there only just opened and is likely to be revisited for maintenance very soon. The Signet stations they've installed there have been pretty reliable around Massachusetts and I don't expect the whole location to ever be completely down for long. If you have your pick of time to charge, you should also be able to avoid any congestion. Beyond that, consider parking up at the Cape Cod Rail Trail lot midway up the Cape in Orleans. There's a ChargePoint L2 there and the trail is very pleasant to walk or bike further up the trail while the car charges. We did it in the middle of winter, so I can only assume it will be much more pleasant in summer! Same option exists further up in Eastham at the library or town hall, although it's not directly on the rail trail. Whatever you choose, have fun!

@patrick7228 Год назад

@@plugandplayEV Sounds good. Thanks for the L2 suggestion.

@joshmatlock1020 Год назад

Not at all related to this video but I went to a Hyundai dealership in Fairfield and looked at an Ionic 6 Limited AWD.....wow...It's quite impressive. I won't be changing from my Model 3 LR but man...if I had to any car but my Model 3 that's the car I'd get....really, really great car. I love the looks and feel of it.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Glad you liked it! The external looks aren't quite to my liking, but that's only judging from the reviews and those I've seen driving around our area. I still need to get up close to film one and I'm pretty sure the driving experience will be better than the I5. Ideally, I'd love to try them both back-to-back on the Mohawk Trail in northwestern Mass... I feel a summer trip brewing!

@baham9217 Год назад

Hi, Steve. No Circle K's here in the DC Metro, but I do have a stupid question for you: Do chargers with dual cables cut the KW power in half when they're both in use on the same charger station? Thanks!

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Hi Todd, actually a very good question, thanks! Power distribution on dispensers capable of simultaneous charging can be set up in a variety of ways, so it's not guaranteed that the split will be 50/50. That's what happens here though and it is a common approach, as it's easiest to understand. Other options include maintaining a higher power level to the car that first plugged in, with the goal of getting them away more quickly and freeing up the plug, or assigning more power to EVs that are capable of faster charging. That said, simultaneous charging from a single unit still isn't that common and often features a CHAdeMO head as the second connector, so we haven't had much opportunity to test the various scenarios out in the wild.

@baham9217 Год назад

@@plugandplayEV , thanks for the reply, Steve! I've experienced some of that power shift at a Level 2 Chargepoint charger near my house, which is why I asked. I wasn't sure if DCFC did that, too, but your explanation made a lot of sense. In that instance, giving more power to the faster charging car makes a lot of sense.

@meganote 2 месяца назад

Why oh why do we have to have an app to charge at every different charger? Imagine if gas pumps were that way. Just let me pay at pump with CC. New Circle K going in @ FWB, FL but don’t know yet if it will have a charger.

@plugandplayEV 2 месяца назад

Most will be tap to pay/card reader going forward. Circle K app for the moment is just a stopgap as far as I can see. Of course, they want you in the app to tie the session to your customer profile and push promotions. That's true of gas customers too, but pumps rolled out long before smartphones and only brand fans will install an app for loyalty.

@Longsnowsm Год назад

We have all seen Bjorn finding what appears to be great food at the Circle K. So how was the food? LOL It's the Circle K Bjorn food experience we are interested in! ROFL That single charger thing doesn't not look optimal. Hopefully that charging experience improves. There shouldn't be any reason to have a app, membership or anything. You should be able to pull up and charge, or select "pay inside" like you would with a gas pump. No credit card option either further failure. Looking like a fail to me. I won't be looking for a Circle K based on this experience. Circle K needs to rethink this. I won't be wasting my time unless I have no other option for charging.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Gas station food in general has always been a no-no for me on long trips... too much can go wrong down the track, even if the toilet stop(s) aligns with a planned charging break! But maybe Circle K has items good enough to break that rule...?! Single charger locations are the exception rather than the rule for early Circle K sites and most of the others seem to have card readers as well, so I wouldn't base everything on this particular site. Nonetheless, it's true that there are still several items to work on here and the perspective is useful, cheers!

@Longsnowsm Год назад

@@plugandplayEV LOL, I don't eat out at all so the food would be a no go for me, but Bjorn just makes it all look good! ROFL

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Ahh true... but that's elite level EV punditry... Bjorn's like the Highlander, there can be only one!

@newscoulomb3705 Год назад

3:00 Hmm. Not a fan of no credit card reader. Especially in the case of a "convenience stop" like Circle K, I think they'll want that (it will likely be required in California). We're soon going to start hitting a critical mass of EV owners who will only occasionally travel and who won't want to have a number of different apps or stored payment information.

@natehill8069 Год назад

I thought that law they passed last year required it nationally?

@plugandplayEV Год назад

@Nate Hill - Card readers are a requirement of sites seeking NEVI funding, but most of these will predate that investment. It looks like the more common ABB 180 kW installs at Circle K do include card readers, though.

@plugandplayEV Год назад

I'm always a bit torn on card readers, as I personally rarely use them and feel like it's a dated payment technique, in a time of contactless NFC phone wallets and pending Autocharge/Plug&Charge solutions, which are far more elegant. Removing a common point of failure, along with the danger of common gas payment issues like card skimmers, is appealing. On the other hand, I understand that what we're shooting for is universal access and not everyone has the methods above available to them. Almost everyone does have some form of card payment and tap-to-pay readers remove many of the fraud concerns. Then limited connectivity at remote sites is also a challenge without card readers. And the fact that the largest EV market requires them, as does the nation's largest EV investment program, probably makes my personal hesitance completely redundant!

@rogerstarkey5390 Год назад

Card readers..... So "1990"

@newscoulomb3705 Год назад

@@rogerstarkey5390 Yup, for fueling cars like the ones we had in 1890 that are rolling on wheels like the ones we had in 1990 BCE. Just because a technology is older doesn't mean it is nonfunctional. Also, the payment readers in 1990 didn't include RFID (still one of my preferred methods for activating a session), NFC readers, or the ability to accept Apple Pay or Google Wallet (two of the more ubiquitous and preferred payment methods).

@Jrfeimst2 Год назад

Some machines have card readers but a lot don’t and force you into an app to even use the charger. I’m getting sick of all these sign ups and storing information on these apps just to charge. Put NFC and credit card readers on them if people don’t want to sign up for an app

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Direct payment and visible pricing are a requirement for both NEVI-funded sites and those in California, so hopefully that will have some influences on charging stations across the country.

@Jrfeimst2 Год назад

@@plugandplayEV gotcha. In NC I guess it’s not required. I randomly stopped at a shell recharge station and I was so irritated I had to download yet another app to pay for a charge.

@MAGApepe Год назад

kinda low power,,, most new ev all take 350 kw,,, bummer all chargers just dont take a CC swipe,,, the app you have to give too much info and easy for someone to hack and steal your info

@plugandplayEV Год назад

Tap to pay, maybe, but card skimming via payment readers is significantly more common than charging app hacks. I know which one I'd be more concerned about, and it ain't the app!

@MAGApepe Год назад

@@plugandplayEV i mean tap,,, i still dont think its a good idea to having to give your personal info to all these apps that then sell it to 3rd parties etc ,, the less info ppl give out the better

@MAGApepe Год назад

@@plugandplayEV just like for buying gas at the station,,, no info is gvien,,, just tap and go,, ev charging should be the same

@plugandplayEV Год назад

For sure, the app bloat is getting annoying now. But the future for EVs should be (IMO) Plug&Charge, where a single entity has payment data tied to vehicle and heavily encrypted data exchange starts the charge when you plug in (no app, tap, or anything more than connecting). Then the back up option of tap to pay by card for universal access to those who don't want to store their digital payment data.

@MAGApepe Год назад

@@plugandplayEV ie like tesla :))