God damn Denmark! They were fighting 4 different fronts and NEARLY managed to win! Even when the Japanese Great Wall kept the Danish from making any considerable gains into the heartland, and even at the war in 3:12 where China, Rome, and Japan all were fighting Denmark, they still managed to survive and get air superiority before the others can, pushing back against China and Japan Hats off to Denmark, they put up a damned good fight!
AI liberation isn't that rare. For example, see the "Lakes of Destruction" AI battle at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R67Aauo0lJo.html wherein Carthage liberates cities around 5 times or so.
I did NOT see that coming! China was pretty much inert for most of the game, then suddenly ate Rome's neighbors and Rome itself soon after and proceeded to steamroll the whole map!
Gooooood fucking damnit. Why is the danish ai so damn incompetent? *sigh* You know what? This is the best result theyve had so far. Ill settle for that. And then i hope i will see Rome or Denmark win at least one at some point in the far future
I mean, Denmark fought on 4 fronts against Rome, Japan, and China (starting 3:12) and still managed to push back and make considerable gains, getting airplane superiority They did damned well considering the circumstances. It's a shame that Japan had the Great Wall which was vital in holding out against the Danish. Were it not for that, I'm confident that the Danish would have conquered the entire bottom-left side of the map
First, when China finished Rome, they finally had some time for peace. They didn't build up for very long, but a few turns of undisturbed repairs and unit building is a lot. China Blitzkrieged (literally, they used tanks and everything!) Palenque, taking it literally the turn war was declared. Denmark decided to push East, probably figuring that Rome would be the easier target. This was a horrible mistake: Taking Palenque gave them a straight shot to Copenhagen, so while Denmark was able to take Rome (briefly, anyway), they lost their own Capital. After that, failure was probably inevitable.
Japan really held there own against the Danes. The Great Wall makes a ton of difference. If not for Japan holding out for so long against Denmark, Denmark likely would have conquered China early.
The Battle of Sukhotai lasted *so long*! From Turn 250ish, it was disputed until Turn 460ish, and the fall Addis Ababa a few moments later. In terms of time, that's about half the video fighting over 1 city!
They tend to be bad at diplomacy they wouldlikely get ganged up on by their neighbors whomever the may be. In my Games The Ottomans, Romans, Huns, and Zulus are always the millitary power. Ive never seen anyone conquer Rome in all my games tho strange they always get swatted in these ai battles.
Rome the powerhouse couldnt stand up this time around sadly as they are my favorite. but i was amazed that china beat the danes and the romans which is just super rare.
Shows how warmonger penalty is important. Human players always have overwhelming advantage when they warmonger the entire world, but the AIs usually don't. So they get overrun for fighting multiple fronts. Unless, of course, they happen to always have very few neighbors.
I love how China and Rome just keep fucking up that one city through out the entire history. LMAO😂😂😂😂 But this really is an amazing game. So many civs looking promising until the end. Definitely didn’t expect China to steamroll the world so quickly at the end.
I really have to say, WELL PLAYED CHINA. this were awesome, really thought denmark would win this. But dont fuck with china lol. Rome had a really good start, it was a MUST that they win this, but they failed in midgame as always. Btw, also super nice that Harald Bluetooth snacked out Shaka first, because if Shaka would get his Impis it would be hard for everyone. :D Nice Ai battle again dude.
The best position for an AI is one where there are disadvantaged neighbors. For positional disadvantages, the cities of Ulundi, Delhi, Marrakech, Karakorum, Copenhagen, and Warsaw had more than 2 borders not including mountains, once the borders filled out at the beginning. First, the AI will not turn an early advantage into a long-term strategy. They will find their army too powerful not to use, and will insist on more wars. This inevitably forces them to build more units. When a war is over, the winner will have more units than they started with. Russia messed up, and Rome get 'em for free. They then kept on doing military. This made it difficult for them to compete, later on, because they hadn't invested in buildings enough, early on. Denmark built a quick empire. Just like Rome. The Ottomans take Karakorum from the overextended Swedes with the army they wanted to take Ulundi with. They then contend with the Danish army. Were it not for the Danes, the Ottomans could've turned their early victories into a real early lead that the AI could maintain. They overextend, and the Japanese notice. The Greeks get themselves into two wars at the beginning of the game. They do not lose, but Japan wins against Attila. Egypt somehow messes up, and the Greeks gain their first and last conquest. Their service to the Japanese is noted. The Moroccans somehow stay out of sight until Japan decides they'd be a wonderful civ to overextend into. The Ottomans took the rightful Japanese claim of Stockholm, and Japan continues it's pointless conquests. They overextend by also fighting the Greeks, and do not recover their infrastructure. The Ottomans lose to the Danes, at this point. China does not engage in war until the Japanese had already taken Marrakech. The Hawaiians had not recovered their from the Danes, so this was an opportune strike. The Romans struck Assur, and the Chinese took it. The Romans lost their two-front war, and would not recover for the rest of the game. The Chinese lose some of their advantage fighting the Danes and the Romans, but the Danes were happy to help return the advantage by attacking Rome. Palenque and Sukhothai swap hands, but China does not lose their homeland. The Japanese take Greece, and begin to preoccupy the Danes. When the Danes are preoccupied, because Rome never recovered, the Chinese can finish the job against the Romans, and declare the final Danish war. China did not win because of having more cities early on. Rome and Japan lost almost directly because of that, along with most of the other civs that managed to ever take 2 cities before China. Denmark was in the middle. They built their empire into a positional disadvantage. You cannot count on having your enemies at war with you at separate times. This is not because the Danish AI was stupid. It did well to take Ulundi early on. Infact, it is nigh impossible to build an empire on this map without having two fronts, and, as Japan did pull it off, you shouldn't be nearly that reckless, early on, as an AI. The real answer, for an AI, is to do just like China did. Wait for the time to strike, then pounce. This allows you to spend your production on buildings. With buildings, you have more production for the units needed to conquer. By taking an easy first few wars, you are efficient with your production, and can propel yourself through the mid-game into an efficient powerhouse, fighting a two-front war against larger nations, taking marginal territorial loses. Maintaining a status quo, you then strike when the time is right.
Hmm, and I think that China won because they massed artillery :) you may even notice on 4:30 how they had 2 flanks with Danes and flank with artilllery won and flank without - lose. Still Danes have only 1-2 of arti and Chinese had 4-5 and so they fought over the cities more efficiently which allowed them to rise from their 3 cities to victory.
Japan almost had Denmark, but they lost it when they closed off their northwestern front by liberating the Mongols and giving Denmark only one concentrated front. Overall: AMAZING
Every time I focused on one side i missed the other, I was like damn rome has the lead then they lost it. Damn Denmark has the lead then they lost it, then Japan distracted them enough for China to overwhelm Denmark. I liked Japan's strategy of liberating them and using their lands to cross without Denmark being able to cross then take them over 😂.
What do you guys think was the reason china won? I initially thought it was bc of artillery but I noticed watching it again that Rome had artillery too. Could be a production issue I guess? The Roman army looked quite small after having fought for sukhotai like 20x
I think it was because of the temporarily peace between China and Denmark. While they fought, China couldnt spare the man power to push into Rome, but when China and Denmark made peace, China could then use all its power to run over Rome and then Denmark. Denmark made the mistake of fighting too many wars at the same time, which is why China could take them out with relative ease after taking Rome.
Their power pike with their distance unit of the middle age who can attack twice per turn is pretty OP, especially on this map too. Thanks to it they weren't conquered and then they just took the advantage with science and probably money/ happiness too, compared to warmongers who are always broke and sad
I was so certain that Rome would win this one, it had a nice start and occupied a nice little pocket. Only having to fight 2 neighbours. But then Danemark started to dominate, which I tought was impossible having to fight a 4 front war. But somehow they seemed to defeat everyone in their path, and then at the last second China does a complete turn around.
Same. I was like Rome stronger thsn china, Denmark is in middle he is going to lose. If rome takes over chine it will be unstopable. Yet when denmark was busy they take down rome and after that there was a no chance to the others.
That's because somehow the Japanese AI got enough compassion to actually do what's called Liberation If you capture a city that was originally owned by a different civ than the one you're fighting, you can liberate it to gain political brownie points with that civ
What happened with Japan? They suddenly decided that instead of keeping two front line cities that were important to them and could maybe churn out an extra unit or two, they then decided instead to liberate them? Goodness they were just begging to be wiped out towards the end there
I think what really lead them to victory though was the massive airforce they built. On such a tiny map they could bomb the hell out of one city in a single turn from across the map and run in with some Lancers to capture the city
wow i thought Rome was gonna win as he was doing so very well in the beginning and even holding off danes and china but nope in the end died. what a shame. Rome is my favorite and normally very agressive but weird that greece didnt have a a chance
In most of the scenarios I watched China has always been the lower powers, early losers more accurately, but now I knew that if China has her chance, she can end the game pretty quick.
Denmark would've beat japan if they didnt have that bonus where they still do normal damage when hurt, those japanese tanks destroyed them. Still proud of denmark warring on all sides and holding though
why did japan just give up after their rival died. they didnt bother producing any units even after the final opponent declared war on them? were they building wonders and refused to stop production? They had a major tech advantage too which is sad :(
China was amazing! The fought and destroyed the Romans who were the early game super power for the majority of the game and then blitzed the Danes when they weren't even looking! The Japanese had a great game too but in terms of sheer tenacity and fighting the odds the Chinese deserved this game from the begining! That being said, those poor Danes.
Not long, I've done a few ai battles for fun and all you need to do is make it so civs dont die until all units are dead and hide in a corner with auto end turn. You need to delete the popups files though so your game doesn't get paused from the stupid "pointiest stick civ" popups.
0:47 seeing it go up and the fact they don't go down until China comes to take their Great Wall as rightfully their's at the very end is credit to the defensive power of the Great Wall of the Huns
