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A NR film about the common faults found on the Class 455 EMU and how to best remedy them yourself before looking like a Tit when Fleet turn up :)

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@Hudson633r
@Hudson633r 11 лет назад
i don't drive trains, but it's good to be prepared
@mk84ldb
@mk84ldb 4 года назад
I was thinking the same thing, best be prepared. When is the exam?
@Robdc89
@Robdc89 3 года назад
@@mk84ldb The class 455 isn't used a lot nowadays, Southern and South Western Railway are the only TOC's that use these trains, and South Western Railway are thinking of replacing them.
@Windsor_Intl_Airlines.
@Windsor_Intl_Airlines. 3 года назад
I remember being on a class 455 its door died and kept opening
@JettisonTheSupreme
@JettisonTheSupreme 3 года назад
@@Robdc89 i love the 455s, used to live on the waterloo-guildford line, took those every time i went into london. now ik how to fix the train when the driver passes out.
@Robdc89
@Robdc89 3 года назад
@@JettisonTheSupreme The class 455 aren't used much on the Waterloo to Guildford line, it's usually the class 707, that mostly run that line. but they do fully run on London suburban line's, such as Waterloo to Woking, and Waterloo to Chessington South or Windsor & Eton Riverside. Southern rail also use the class 455 on their metro services, from London Victoria and London Bridge.
@therealvbw
@therealvbw 4 года назад
legend has it the driver is still breaking the traction interlock seal on every train to this day
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo 3 года назад
"Welcome to the academy of science. How smart are you?" "I'm a physicist working on string theory," "Yeah, so?" "I can also restart a crappy dead class 455." "Right this way sir!"
@lexifillems
@lexifillems 4 года назад
I've always said the difficult thing about being a train driver is not the driving. It's dealing with faults (and the leaf fall season). This video proves it once again. Also, after seeing all this paddling I'm glad I never drove third-rail equipment. :)
@railwaymechanicalengineer4587
@railwaymechanicalengineer4587 6 месяцев назад
What a whimp. You could have a lovely free fireworks display playing with paddles & hook switch poles or better still "Short Circuiting Bars". With Arcs flying over your head & lighting up the sky. Much better than Guy Fawkes Night !!!!
@ukar69
@ukar69 7 лет назад
Traction current isolation, that’s a paddlin’. Blown shoe fuse, that’s a paddlin’. Damaged shoe gear, ooh you better believe that’s a paddlin'
@devonnelson9708
@devonnelson9708 2 года назад
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@devonnelson9708 2 года назад
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@devonnelson9708
@devonnelson9708 2 года назад
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@malcolmcasey7704
@malcolmcasey7704 2 года назад
@Devon Nelson glad I could help xD
@davidfrobel7582
@davidfrobel7582 11 лет назад
don't know if I would want to mess whith the power rail in the rain that guy has got balls of steal.
@TheOpenSourceGamer
@TheOpenSourceGamer 11 лет назад
I imagine you'd actually begin by thinking "Oh fuck not again"
@chrismarshall3459
@chrismarshall3459 8 лет назад
can't believe I just watched 31 minutes of this.......
@lrjtherailwayguy
@lrjtherailwayguy 8 месяцев назад
Driver:does anyone here knows how to start a failed 455 Me:my time has come
@AkomishTiddies
@AkomishTiddies 8 лет назад
I was driving class 455 in TS2015 and brakes failed to release. Now rewatching this XD
@darrencafferty
@darrencafferty 8 лет назад
I've had a go on that and it's not too bad. The braking dynamics are all wrong with the mk1 units as with tread brakes they don't work too well at speed whereas slow speeds they really bite. Good fun and a couple of the routes on that are fairly accurate in terms of signal positions. I would even say you could catch up on route knowledge 😉
@AkomishTiddies
@AkomishTiddies 8 лет назад
+darren cafferty well, at least Armstrong Powerhouse thought about tread brakes realism. But only in class 205 so far
@darrencafferty
@darrencafferty 8 лет назад
+Delsin I didn't know you could drive a Thumper on it, love them old bastards
@AkomishTiddies
@AkomishTiddies 8 лет назад
+darren cafferty they released it just a couple of weeks ago or something like that
@darrencafferty
@darrencafferty 8 лет назад
+Delsin I'll have to have a butchers at that. I hope it's nice and claggy and they've got the right sounds for her, the Turbo whistle on notch 7 is a must!!! 😀
@Richardsrailway
@Richardsrailway 10 лет назад
Film locations btw, Wimbledon park traincare depot, chessington south station
@musicforaarre
@musicforaarre 8 лет назад
Extremely interesting to my engineering type mentality. Very highly stimulating. Aarre Peltomaa
@darrencafferty
@darrencafferty 8 лет назад
thanks 😁
@stephensmith799
@stephensmith799 8 лет назад
How the heck do drivers remember all of this?! I was lost completely after a couple of minutes....
@darrencafferty
@darrencafferty 8 лет назад
that's why it takes a long time to be signed off on a type as well as the route knowledge. you need to know practically every inch of track. For example at night you come around a bend and there's a road running parallel to the track and there's a traffic light on the road showing red, is that a signal at danger or s traffic light? You HAVE to know 😀
@thihal123
@thihal123 8 лет назад
Yes, overly complicated
@no-uy9er
@no-uy9er 3 года назад
Imagine if you did everything in the video and your problem wasn’t solved
@rearspeaker6364
@rearspeaker6364 10 месяцев назад
its a class 60 "the train is a fail".
@EASYTIGER10
@EASYTIGER10 9 лет назад
He should get the passengers to give the train a push
@PottersVideos2
@PottersVideos2 5 лет назад
No you'd be better off just detraining them and getting them to walk to the station with a suitable escort. This would require a block on all lines and a traction current isolation so is something only done as a last resort!
@lexifillems
@lexifillems 4 года назад
Potter's Police, Security and Railway videos Don't you do humor? ;)
@MannyAntipov
@MannyAntipov 3 года назад
I once saw a SWR 455 failing to start from Guildford, I wonder which one of these might be the issue?
@FerroequinologistofColorado
@FerroequinologistofColorado 4 года назад
I don’t know why but these kind of videos are very satisfying to watch.
@Phil6219
@Phil6219 12 лет назад
nice, thanks for sharing mate
@London1064
@London1064 5 лет назад
Great video👍
@SprinterPlayz
@SprinterPlayz 4 месяца назад
I need to get a CRT tv and watch this on it lol
@t3hfuhr3r
@t3hfuhr3r 12 лет назад
Bookmarked for...when I move to England...and start driving class 455s...
@darrencafferty
@darrencafferty 12 лет назад
@marccarless Just use an old broom handle and a pair of thick rubber gloves, that should keep the 25kv at bay :)
@darrencafferty
@darrencafferty 12 лет назад
@markb846 I'm so glad I was able to help :) I love the old Thumpers, never had an opportunity to drive one
@kenstevens5065
@kenstevens5065 Год назад
I never realised drivers had this sort of responsibility in dealing with various faults. I suppose in steam days you just needed a big hammer, the bigger the better!
@Tuppoo94
@Tuppoo94 8 месяцев назад
Back in the days of steam you had to "dump the fire" out of the fire box if the boiler water level dropped too low, otherwise the boiler could explode in your face.
@ronzomac6246
@ronzomac6246 4 года назад
Wouldn't put my hands near any poxy copper fuses even after paddling up. Just tell them you've tried everything and get the fitters out. There probably sitting playing cards in the bothy anyway.
@Trek001
@Trek001 7 лет назад
Video makes note of there being a Class 508 non motor trailer but fails to mention the two cars from the second Class 210 prototype
@james123212
@james123212 7 лет назад
at the time this video was made there would only be 1 ex 210 vehicle in service.
@johnpoole8332
@johnpoole8332 4 года назад
Is the configuration AB-BA because the train is going to Waterloo?
@droge192
@droge192 3 года назад
Love it! You win the internet sir. :o)
@pigeonette
@pigeonette 3 года назад
omg
@squeaksvids5886
@squeaksvids5886 3 года назад
Mamma Mia! 🤦🏼‍♂️😂😂
@applecounty
@applecounty 11 лет назад
Helps being an old Boy Scout to tie knots like that.
@marcuspotter5590
@marcuspotter5590 3 года назад
Why would Fleet be called in if you could just remedy it yourself? Why not just cancel them once you've fixed it?
@dad7720
@dad7720 Год назад
Fascinating...
@JordonSkinner
@JordonSkinner 9 лет назад
Is there a video like this for 444/450 desiro units???
@PottersVideos2
@PottersVideos2 5 лет назад
22:30 What do you do with the passengers? Presumably taking them to a station would be better?
@limwaik
@limwaik 4 года назад
I wonder if simliar of Class 317/318 has same problem with this video of 455 except wooden paddles (pantograph rises/lowers) AND yaw dampers (90-100 mph) problems?
@hugebartlett1884
@hugebartlett1884 4 года назад
Home at last,and the wife asks what sort of a day have you had? Wondering if there's a job going on the buses.
@cjtait4415
@cjtait4415 9 лет назад
good nice and edgucational
@mk84ldb
@mk84ldb 4 года назад
Just the other day I was thinking how to fix a problem on my own personal Class 455 running gear. What ARE the odds I would hit upon this video??
@MM0SDK
@MM0SDK 8 лет назад
Are regular drivers required to perform all this or is it for the engineers? I'm loving the shoe fuse.... copper plate....lol. Any idea how many amps those fuses are rated at by any chance? I know the voltage is very high, so maybe not as high as i think. 200 Amp?
@darrencafferty
@darrencafferty 8 лет назад
The ee507 traction motor draws a max of 2200 amps so the fuse is probably 2500 to 3000. I'll find out for you0
@darrencafferty
@darrencafferty 8 лет назад
Here's a graph showing amperage draw over time in seconds. columbia.libpthread.so/rw/cl455-perf/CurrentVsTime.png
@railwaymechanicalengineer4587
@railwaymechanicalengineer4587 6 месяцев назад
When Starting a 12-car EMU formation out of Waterloo on the 750v DC system, the train would at starting, draw normally 3200 amps. Over at Euston a Class 86 starting a 12-car train would only draw 65 amps. Because the current was 25,000v AC.
@eswnl1
@eswnl1 5 месяцев назад
@@railwaymechanicalengineer4587 wouldn't be surprised if the rail got slightly warm with that current.
@billpugh58
@billpugh58 4 года назад
Just pull our that 750V DC fuse with your bare hands! Paddle up looking directly at the arc. He is my hero!
@Tuppoo94
@Tuppoo94 8 месяцев назад
Maybe he's just tired of his life.
@darrencafferty
@darrencafferty 11 лет назад
I make you right but have you factored in the Giant Space Haddock of Lowestoft, otherwise a Causality Loop could theoretically occur!
@royfreeman6261
@royfreeman6261 Месяц назад
Doing that sort of thing in the dark on a rainy night in the middle of nowhere with (hopefully isolated) conductor rails nearby. No thanks. An old EPB driver told me that some drivers would partly pull out a fuse in the cab cupboard and use the arc to light their cigarette!
@lemonbirdo1353
@lemonbirdo1353 3 года назад
6:28 - They seriously just reversed the clip from 6:21.
@markb846
@markb846 12 лет назад
Proved usefu when fault finding on Thumper 205205
@artwegweiser6258
@artwegweiser6258 6 лет назад
When did the Fireman and Brakeman go away? Lots of time and effort saved if the Engineer or Driver could stay with the throttle and let a second person,do the legwork for hot boxes, opening doors and calming, passengers.
@PottersVideos2
@PottersVideos2 5 лет назад
This is a South West Trains film, not an NR film.
@ThatVoxelBlock
@ThatVoxelBlock 9 месяцев назад
at 29:49 in the handbook theres class 400
@damianmatras8568
@damianmatras8568 4 года назад
6:28 Is that... is that in reverse?
@timtube1663
@timtube1663 4 года назад
Forgive my ignorance, what does a 'motor alternator' do? Does the train not pick up aux power supply directly from the conductor rail?
@jonwhite4250
@jonwhite4250 4 года назад
No, the third rail supplies 750v Dc which isn’t too useful for auxiliary supplies hence the alternator turns it into a more useful voltage, most likely 415v ac 3 phase,
@droge192
@droge192 3 года назад
Was all very safety-orientated until the very last comment in the video.... "Remember, LOST TIME IS LOST MONEY".
@roobear78
@roobear78 3 года назад
wooden paddles yip looks like british rail built tech to me!
@tobysummers471
@tobysummers471 8 лет назад
one thing i have always wondered is why are there rails that are not used inside the 4 foot? I
@darrencafferty
@darrencafferty 8 лет назад
if you're talking about 'loose' rails, then they are normally dumped in pairs in the 4 foot when a renewal is due
@weeardguy
@weeardguy 7 лет назад
And in the Netherlands (and probably other parts of Europe as well) it's become increasingly common to strengthen the complete track by mounting a pair of extra rails in the middle.
@davecook3840
@davecook3840 5 лет назад
4ft “check” rails are fitted where slippage is likely such as on tight curves or over some bridges where ballast levels are low. Other than that the rail in the 4ft is (as already said) delivered where a rail change is happening at a later date
@LewisCollard
@LewisCollard 4 года назад
I'm good because I derive endless amusement from the word "cock" being used so much but how did I end up in this corner of RU-vid anyway
@paulanderson79
@paulanderson79 4 года назад
"tap" would perhaps be a better word to use.
@lexifillems
@lexifillems 4 года назад
paulanderson79 That's actually the original meaning of cock.
@paulanderson79
@paulanderson79 4 года назад
@@lexifillems I know. I have to admit that it's the constant repetition that bugged me rather than the word's colloquial and contemporary usage.
@BigKelvPark
@BigKelvPark 5 лет назад
If there's a fault, check the relevant circuit breaker. How about the easy option of seeing if any of them are tripped and finding out what it supplies. There's so much padding in this film.
@LongHaulPilot
@LongHaulPilot 9 месяцев назад
Where is paul tyreman?
@PottersVideos2
@PottersVideos2 5 лет назад
8:10 What the hell do you with the passengers if you are not at a station? Presumably taking them the passengers to a station and then taking the unit out of service would be more sensible?
@warphammer
@warphammer Год назад
Inform the passengers they will be provided with alternate transportation. Then, retrieve the paddles to deal with the ensuing riot. Contact dispatch to send a flying squad for assistance. If further emergency assistance is required, set the machine gun isolating cock to the 'operate' position in the cab.
@DaveDVideoMaker
@DaveDVideoMaker 3 года назад
18:10 Close these isolating cox.
@RobertSzasz
@RobertSzasz 8 лет назад
Fleet will certainly give you the help you need to get going.... 😂
@bmcclure0561dad
@bmcclure0561dad 7 лет назад
I like to fu** with fleet by calling them and give the FU2DIKFAC fault in the DRA while pissing on the overload switch! Loads of fun Mate, some times I stick the wsb light up my ass and stick my bum out the door at lorrie crossings!
@RobertSzasz
@RobertSzasz 7 лет назад
bmcclure0561dad Fleet is a brand of enema in the USA
@bmcclure0561dad
@bmcclure0561dad 7 лет назад
Aaaah come on, that was funny!
@paulanderson79
@paulanderson79 4 года назад
0:48 that's a very sleep decline.
@Househead1200
@Househead1200 2 года назад
Get train from a to b getting commuters home on time. Terry Medford, Surbiton.
@vincitveritas3872
@vincitveritas3872 5 лет назад
Look like electric sprinters. Which I guess sprinters were similar body shells to these
@grassytramtracks
@grassytramtracks 11 месяцев назад
That's because they more or less are, but one difference is that being intended for relatively short journeys, they don't have toilets
@vincitveritas3872
@vincitveritas3872 11 месяцев назад
@@grassytramtracks thank you
@390h8er
@390h8er 3 года назад
Does anybody know why 455/456's have manual air pipes and jumpers, instead of the combined connector block under the Tightlock coupling like other units?
@squeaksvids5886
@squeaksvids5886 3 года назад
I think it was something to do with tradition, the old southern region didn’t like change.
@JintySteam1
@JintySteam1 7 лет назад
if it non of these work the unit needs scrapping.
@angelsone-five7912
@angelsone-five7912 4 года назад
Kin ell, how can anyone remember that lot?! I`d call the AA.
@ErraticPT
@ErraticPT Год назад
Take a shot everytime you hear the word shoe.
@CosgroveNotts
@CosgroveNotts 9 лет назад
I can just see drivers going through this routine. Too many health and safety issues now. There will be more cock ups
@railwaymechanicalengineer4587
@railwaymechanicalengineer4587 6 месяцев назад
TODAY'S REALITY !!! Great idea, except that in more recent years passenger "Train Operating Company" Drivers are no longer allowed to rectify faults. Because they are driving a train that belongs to a different company. One of the three "Train Owning Companies" who don't want other companies staff touching their equipment. Hence when a minor fault such as a faulty sliding door occurs, the whole train may simply have to be taken out of service, inconveniencing passengers.
@CaptainJackSparrowisreal
@CaptainJackSparrowisreal Год назад
I'm thinking of getting a job at south western railways
@ianbillericay
@ianbillericay 12 лет назад
The 455 is 750v dc
@alberttwo68
@alberttwo68 8 лет назад
Why the contact surface of the "plus" rail installed at up position? I think it will always be in worst condition - moisture, rain, icing, snow, etc. - hence bad conductance. Moreover, it must be danger for maintenance personal. I guess there is one only advantage it is just simplest installation along track. Explain please, experts. Thanks.
@bobwilliams8317
@bobwilliams8317 8 лет назад
DC electricity flows from - to + so the + rail is simply the return path.
@alberttwo68
@alberttwo68 8 лет назад
You did not understand question.
@bobwilliams8317
@bobwilliams8317 8 лет назад
+alberttwo68 oh yes my bad. At my own guess I would say it would be easier from a maintenance standpoint to just put things on top instead of hooking underneath. For example on the DLR, trains cannot be powered through junctions because it would be too complex To have power rails throughout, which means if a train does not have enough momentum to coast it can stop and be immobilised in a junction.
@alberttwo68
@alberttwo68 8 лет назад
Thanks. I guessed so. Simplest. But have some disadvantages ( dangerest for personal, susceptibility to precipitation). For example, in russia, we have here this one contact rail type yandex.ru/images/search?p=2&text=%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9%20%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%81%20%D0%B2%20%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE&img_url=http%3A%2F%2Fprivetstudent.com%2Fuploads%2Fposts%2F2012-12%2F1354881226_1c3542403e3f3e3b3842353d4b-13.png&pos=86&rpt=simage
@bobwilliams8317
@bobwilliams8317 8 лет назад
+alberttwo68 yeah, that rail type would have the same issue. Also changing power delivery over the entire network and also adapting trains is a costly measure. It's cheaper just to do the maintenance needed. Also, with the shoes going over the contact surface all the time, I guess it would brush off any water or contaminants.
@contrapunctusmammalia3993
@contrapunctusmammalia3993 9 лет назад
Why don't they have a reduction of brake cylinder pressure mean the application of the brakes?
@james123212
@james123212 7 лет назад
its the way the braking system is designed it you have to apply pressure to the brake cylinders to apply brakes, the 3 step brake that is used on these units uses electrical signals to control the brake valves
@g2macs
@g2macs 4 года назад
yeh, just grab hold of that fuse mate.....whoops!....wiring fault that's just turned your heart into cooked rubber......sorry about that.
@64354
@64354 3 года назад
Why am I watching this It's not like they even use these trains anymore
@TheUnknown313
@TheUnknown313 Год назад
They still do actuality… 2 years after you made that comment.
@grassytramtracks
@grassytramtracks 11 месяцев назад
They still do on south western
@coloradostrong
@coloradostrong 2 года назад
Perhaps it needs water or more coal?
@manxman8008
@manxman8008 4 года назад
be nice if the sytem said what the fault was!
@mk84ldb
@mk84ldb 4 года назад
Nope, that is why you go to school for 100 years
@ronzomac6246
@ronzomac6246 4 года назад
No pressure on the driver. Get on to fleet to stop their constant tea and biscuits and get them out to do your job. YOUR A DRIVER NOT A FUCKING TECH.
@johnsfo2023
@johnsfo2023 7 лет назад
Might I suggest that when looking & listening around and between cars for defective hoses & connectors you do it on the side opposite that of the electric third rail? Out on the line, it's unguarded completely--no protective slats--so if you slip, stumble, or trip you could make accidental contact with it and the earthed train body, which could very well be a 750-volt ouchie.
@michealguillen8496
@michealguillen8496 3 года назад
Oh boy old train old version same one of nyc subway R44 &R46 wich version are different from usa nyc 🇺🇸 and uk 🇬🇧 Right now my nyc subway cars are replaced new technology train now from R142 and R188b2001 IRT R142 /A 2007 to 2020 IND right now R44 was retired 2009 R46 will retired soon 2021 2023 by R211 . Uk models need retired and replaced
@joelharris1335
@joelharris1335 6 лет назад
At least, the class 455s will be replaced by new trains by South Western Railway.
@ElliottHurst
@ElliottHurst 7 месяцев назад
Good luck getting drivers to do this sort of thing nowadays
@CosgroveNotts
@CosgroveNotts 5 лет назад
You want this bloke to be a mechanic with no training. So scandalous
@xm3405
@xm3405 5 лет назад
Thank god these shitty old trains are going!
@handyboy5332
@handyboy5332 8 лет назад
Horrible units: featureless, boring to work on (you don't drive them,) no character, nothing likeable at all.
@Jallge
@Jallge 7 лет назад
South West Trains apparently have an impeccable reliability record with these units. So the lack of style is at least traded for that. Personally I think they looked pretty decent before their refurbishment.
@JohnSmith-lh5sk
@JohnSmith-lh5sk 7 лет назад
True.
@alexwallis-banbury7713
@alexwallis-banbury7713 10 лет назад
Yea its full of education but its just to boaring. :/
@adamlacey81
@adamlacey81 5 лет назад
It's spelt 'boring'. Obviously you do need educating.
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