It takes a lot of talent to write Little Carmine’s lines. You have to be malifluous in your efficacy and fundamental to the core. But until you are you won’t know how effective you will be as a writer.
"The fundamental question is will I be as effective as a boss like my dad was. And I will be. Even more so, but until I am, it's going to be hard to verify that I think I'll be more effective."
"If you hadn't posted this 1st, then I would have, but unless I had, it's going to be hard for me to verify whether I think I would have posted it first if you hadn't." Lol, Historically, historical laughter comes from Little Carmine talking.
Neil Hawke Little Carmine was way overrated but he was a puppet master acting stupid to make them all snooze. Was a very interesting character. Fooling the fools who thought they were fooling him.
To this day, the fact that we cant agree if Little Carmine is a genius or an imbecile is a testament to the writing team that conceived this character.
Either way, definitely Emotionally- Intelligent. Everyone wants to be happy, but he made a conscious decision to to get off the track the rest were stuck on and BE happy- long term.
I think he might have autistic traits. The way he tries to reassure everyone or heavy-handedly explain what he means even when completely unnecessary or just making things more difficult, is something I recognize in myself sometimes.
@@yggdrasil2 To me, his overexplaining always seemed like he wants to leave an impression of being capable and knowledgeable. You know, standard issued mafia ego.
@Ren·ais·sance man Its always an adventure to see what will come out of Carmine's mouth next. If it wasn't for his dad, this guy would just be an associate.
Whenever I'm reminded of a certain subspecies I think back on all the crossroads and mellifluous stagmires. And realize that the sacred AND the propane will set our souls free at the meeting of minds.
How can you not love Little Carmine?! He was this show's most consistent comedy relief. He's The Sopranos version of Tim Taylor after talking to Wilson near the backyard fence.
You know, after watching this video I am reminded of "Louis The Whatever"'s finance minister: "D-UH Something". He was an old-fashioned guy, very allegorical. With 9 pictures under his sub-species. He would gather other ministers together to get their imputs - or "notes" as we'd call them. Eventually this brought him to the precipice of an enormous crossroads where - historically - historical changes have come out of war. And as we all know: "A pint of blood is worth more than a gallon of gold". In the end it didn't matter, because Louis clapped him in irons.
How he said ANY of these lines with a straight face is beyond me, I'd have died after that whole "Effective" speech. My goodness this man is an amazing actor.
I always liked the guy, mainly because he seems like the sort of person that "understands" he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, and in his own way has tried to work at it by reading/informing himself on a bunch of subjects. Of course... how that plays out is debatable...
2:05 "The fundamental question is, will I be as effective as a boss like my dad was... and I will be, even moreso; but until I am, it's going to be hard to verify that I think I'll be more effective."
@@patrickbyrne5070 say what you want about Trump my friend but unemployment at a 50 year low, economy is doing great.. peoples 401k's are doing well ... You've been listening too much of that mainstream liberal media like ABC ..NBC....
The opening scene is the best. Little Carmine pauses for dramatic effect like he dropped some serious knowledge and Tony just had a blank stare and gives an arm nod.
0:00 "I am reminded of Louis the whatever's finance minister-the....something". Gandolfini deserved an Emmy just for not rolling on floor laughing after that
the other time is Johnny Sack was speaking to Tony about the offensive joke he heard about Ginny having a 95 lb mole removed. I wonder how many takes they must have had to get through that scene.
disgustika - They all constantly use words wrong. That's kinda the point of the show.....they're all extremely stupid. Sopranos is a comedy not a drama. And once you realize that, it becomes hysterical!
I always liked how Carmine tried to infuse his role with more gravitas than he could muster. He could never manage to rule by fear or intimidation, but he always seemed to calm things down with his magnanimous yet earnest attitudes.
Its almost hurts to listen to, but then you hear the rest of his story about the dream and his wife telling him to hang up his heart with the work he does and you realize Lil Carm is a sincere and deep soul.
The fundamental question is wilI I be as effective as a boss like my dad was. And I will be. Even more so. But until I am, it's gonna be hard to verify that I think I'll be more effective.
"If you hadn't posted this 1st, then I would have, but unless I had, it's going to be hard for me to verify whether I think I would have posted it first if you hadn't." LMAO!! (Historically, historical laughter comes from Little Carmine talking!!) What a "stagmire" LOL..Omg, ....whew!!!!
“This alteration you had with him. You’re at the precipice of an enormous crossroad”. Not only does he misuse a fairly common word, the statement itself is fairly nonsensical for multiple reasons. Yet you still basically get the meaning he’s trying to convey. Great writing
Blew my mind when I found out Carmine Sr. (Tony Lip) was the actual driver and bodyguard of pianist Don Shirley, as portrayed in the film "Green Book". Whaat?
I'm not a foreigner. Are you comfortable with all the lies being told by Cheeto or are you just happy to wave that Hillary card even though it's played out? Eh, twat? Haha
"You're at the precupice, Tony - of an enormous cross-road...." BRILLIANT writing! Maybe the most unheralded actor in the entire series, as he delivers his "Yogi-isms" with such conviction. "I have many films under my subspecies..."
I always liked Carmine Jr for some reason....they did a good job on this show of keeping him sort of an outsider...it's like he brought a different perspective..
Little Carmine was always one of my favourites. His dream ,and even more so his shrewd interpretation thereof, and subsequent exiting of the life shows that he was indeed far more wise than we ever thought.
It's funny how automatically people assume that the character was written to be a moron. Which could not be further from the truth. Carmine Jr's methods are hidden in his dialogue. That was the genius of the writing in the Soprano's writing. If you take the first clip of this video, he speaks of the finance minister building a bigger chateau then the king's. He's actually telling Tony that having to much will actually get you killed. At the time, Tony was making a ton of cash from the HUD scam and wanted Carmine to help him from having New York taxing it. Tony didn't get it.
With these lessons being such as they are, it's very possible however unlikely that he'll be even greater at writing the Sopranos as the writers are themselves. However, until that happens it's going to be very difficult to verify that I think that he is.
Much like a child, a Sopranos comment thread has many parents. That is to say, many commenters who act like parents. That, by aversion, the thread is their baby. This comment was made under one of my several Google sub-species.
a g I don't think Little Carmine was a mastermind as much as he was just lucky. As far as his vocabulary, Carmine, Sr. occasionally used malpropisms and incorrect words, though nowhere near to the same extent as his son. And Carmine, Sr. wasn't a moron. As for Little Carmine's alleged plan to stay in the shadows and let New Jersey and New York kill each other, I don't buy it because if Little Carmine has similar traits to his father, presumably he'd handle things like him. For example, Carmine was ready to have Johnny Sack killed over the Ginny joke when he wouldn't let it go. He didn't have this approach where he'd just let Tony and Johnny go at it. He was actively involved in dealing with the issue. Another thing is, the main thing, is that, even if we suppose that Little Carmine is intent to take over New Jersey and whoever's left in the Leotardo crew, he's got to deal with Butchie, Albie and whoever else. They're not going to put up with a guy from a rival crew just coming in and taking over, especially one who, up until the events in the last few episodes of the show, has shown himself to be a complete moron. The last thing is that, after Rusty Millio and the other guy get whacked by the two zips from Italy, Little Carmine's crew is completely wiped out. What is Carmine doing by the end of season six? He's got no soldiers under him. It's very hard to believe that Butch and Albie and the rest wouldn't just get rid of him at that point.
While I tend to agree with you that Carmine did not have a master plan, I can see where someone who did have a master plan would have wanted to allow Tony and Phil to go after each other. The differences between Phil and Tony were irreconcilable so no point in making any real effort to resolve that problem. Better to let them go at each other an kill each other off so that he could step in and clean up after the bloodletting. Carmine's position was much too weak to effectively intervene so any real effort to do so would have been suicidal. I dont see where Carmine would need to have the same leadership style as his dad just as I think there can be more than one style of leadership that can be effective.
Carmine is a great example of what happens when dudes are legacied into the mafia... This is why Tony is SO smart for not doing that with his kids. Imagine AJ trying to live that life, lol. That's little Carmine
v i’m sure he does, they’re just malpropisms - confusing a similar sounding word with another. Tony has done this plenty but nobody considers him brainless the third.
Butch's face at 3:40 is Golden LOL. I've seen that scene a million times and got it saved in my favorites whenever I'm bored and I need a good laugh I cut that scene on just mainly for Butch's face lol It says everything without saying it.
2:05 - Fun fact...this dialogue was ripped nearly word for word. "The fundamental question is, 'Will I be a successful president when it comes to foreign policy?' I will be, but until I'm the president, it's going to be hard for me to verify that I think I'll be more effective."-In Wayne, Mich., as quoted by Katharine Q. Seelye in the New York Times, June 28, 2000
He acted goofy so no one would take him seriously. Started his own business in Miami to get away from New York. In the end he was still alive. Smartest player in the game.
@@CaptainTrips560 He did not make himself independent of the mob. He knew damn well nobody gets out of the life. Not really. What he did was make himself valuable to the mob in a way that kept him out of danger.
@@imonit1177 the potential to be independent is probably a better way of saying it. he made himself independent in the sense that his income was more or less legitimate. If the rest of the family all got struck by lightning or died in a plane crash or something, Little Carmine would be fine. Whereas someone like Chris would be fucked without the mob.
