Classic vs Modern Racquets - What is Best for Your Game?

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@user1138 2 года назад

I can't play with anything but more classic style player's racquets. I've tried switching to modern tweeners, but they always feel like hollow toys to me. I've got to have a thinner beam, good amount of flex, and minimum 320g static weight. My current stick is the Yonex VCORE Pro 97H and I love it. IMO the only thing that could make that racquet better is if Yonex removed the VDM from the handle to improve feel. It just seems like overkill in a racquet with this much flex.

@BullyGarfield. 2 года назад

facts. i love my modded pro staff 97 too

@christopheradam6967 2 года назад

Yeah I’d love to try that racquet of yours

@Fernwald84 2 года назад

Just went back to my old Völkl C10 Pro and hit the best I have in a long time. This racket has a buttery feel but with excellent feel, Federer-level plow through and excellent accuracy.

@sportguy-live26 Год назад

The c10 pro is a great racquet no doubt not my racquet of choice but a great racquet nonetheless..

@youngsuit 7 месяцев назад

i've found that the wilson ultra has been a good transition frame for me from being a long-time prince graphite user up until 2020

@VikentiosGR 28 дней назад

after 10 racquets i demoed i found that Wilson ultra was the closest to my prince graphite too!

@youngsuit 28 дней назад

@@VikentiosGR the wilson ultra tour?

@alexandern4140 2 года назад

great video - thanks

@rkozzy369 2 года назад

Another great video! I’m always looking forward to the next one.

@AgeChampion 2 года назад

Great video, Jonas. Would love to see some more match play videos in future.

@viewernum72 Год назад

I feel great about going to an 85 inch racquet. Thank you. I've given myself permission.

@MarioJelev 2 года назад

Great video. I've been using mostly a combination of PT 2.0 and ProKennex Copper Ace for the past few months and love the control-oriented feel of both. Purchased a pair of the 360+ Prestige Mids last week and excited to see how they stack up against the PT.

@simon0yeung 2 года назад

Great video thanks. For me I still enjoy my old K90 the most. Prior to that I also loved the Estusa Powerbeam Pro. (yea super old school)

@christiansantfournier2794 Год назад

Great Video 👍

@billpoulakis1741 2 года назад

I still use my Becker Melbournes from 2012 and still love them as much as i did 10 years ago. After watching your review of the volkl c10 pro and I tried it out and I absolutely love the firm classic graphite feel of this classic. Mine 12.6 oz strung and its right in my sweepspot for frames. i get more spin out of my Beckers, even though they have an 18 x 20 string bed, but after demoing tons of new frames, I am always going back to the more classis graphite type of frames. They just feel more substantial than he newer cheap feeling frames of today.

@room1recording 2 года назад

I’ve went from pro staff 100 to countless 95’s then 97’s then blade 98’s to the ultra 100. Wanted obscene spin and power but didn’t want something as flexible as the pure drive. Bought the pure aero recently and the thing is an utter weapon. Won’t be changing back tbh.

@room1recording Год назад

@@Batwam0 Haha yeah it is quite stiff actually. Not sure what put me off them years ago. Ended up getting the vcore 100 anyway which I find really easy to play with as it’s not quite as powerful and can get tons of spin too.

@goldencalf5144 2 года назад

It would be good if Wilson still made a 90 sq inch Pro Staff. The market is flooded with racquets in the 98 sqi range. I think a smaller 90 or 93 would have definite niche appeal. The high prices that old PS90s fetch confirms this.

@bournejason66 2 года назад

Even Roger stays away from small head size. No market for sure

@BullyGarfield. 2 года назад

maybe 95 i would like to buy a thin beamed 95 pro staff

@goldencalf5144 2 года назад

@@bournejason66 Roger plays against much more powerful players than any rec player, so he needs a bit of free power. But for an old school weekend warrior like me who plays a lot of pushers, a 90/93 sq inch frame would be perfect. If you think there's no market for small frames, have a look on Ebay at the prices for old Pro Staff 90s. The point is there are plenty of options in the 98 sqi range, so there's no real need to make another model in this size.

@nicholasmorre7371 2 года назад

I play with a v13 pro staff 97, which to me feels like a perfect compromise between modern attributes and classic feel. I have never hit with a pt 2.0, though, and i'm really keen to give it a try.

@dmmax18 2 года назад

I play this one also, my previous one was PS 6.1 95. When switching I only then realized how much more power the racquet can bring)

@tharkun92 11 месяцев назад

This video really speaks to me because i have the same tennis racquet journey : i grew up playing with the pro staff 6.0, and always gravitated around these very control oriented racquets. Until recently, I used the Prestige MP and absolutely loved it. But at 4.0-4.5 level, and getting over 40yo now, its hard to overpower pushers in a long match… So I made the switch to a Blade 98 v8 16x19… wish me luck ;-) Also big thanks for yor channel. I have be following you through the years, and really like your content, keep it up !

@SportyWizard18 2 года назад

classic all the way!

@caseysmith544 15 дней назад

I am using cheap 2000's Ace Pro Jr Power Contour where racquet is going to be for 6 l but 2 new unused black and yellow where when they come in I will make a 4 inch grip size a 4 & 1/4 by using 2 layers of Black cloth Hockey tape on 2 of 6 and Loctite Ultra Gel Control on final end wrap on bottom. Even latest one of red and blue racquets coming in 2024, I will remove over-gip added and use a single layer of tape. Now I only bought 2 of black and yellow model2024 becuse they were bran new old run and had shipping dropped as well as buying 2 or $50 pre tax. I only got one originally on early 2000's around 2002--2003 which has a matt layer of spray-paint clear coat in 2020 because paint was peeling off. On all I have in also a very light amount of black spray on rubber paint on for keeping paint from being scrapped off so on some where hey are scraped I used more paint and will do same on incoming models for protection. I got 2 more o Red and Blue in 2023 and 1 red/blue and 2 new never used Yellow and black in 2024 as more racquets of model I like before all is left are smaller Power Contour/Ace Power Pro Jr in 23 inch size in same black and yellow color. Only reason in 2000's I got red and blue model is becuse yellow and black model in same size was moving to a 4 inch grip and at time I was using strictly stock grip only in a stock racquet.

@christopheradam6967 2 года назад

Another awesome video from my favourite tennis channel

@Tennisnerd 2 года назад

🙏🏼

@evnyquil4159 2 года назад

Hey Jonas thank you for all the Tennis content, reviews, and recommendation videos that have helped make sense of all the lingo associated with tennis gear. I am happy you mentioned the Pro Tour 2.0 in so many videos. I made an immediate and permanent switch. Pro Tour 2.0 with 3 grams at 12 and a leather grip. The best feeling. Thanks.

@Tennisnerd 2 года назад

Great to hear!

@andrewfinkelsteintennis1915 2 года назад

Switched from gravity pro to pro tour a couple of months ago and it's great. The PT has plenty of power I think,judging by how often I hit long! Modern strings can add any power or spin the user feels are lacking.

@greenpeaks 2 года назад

6.1 95 4eva!

@johnwozniak4947 2 года назад

Just got back from hitting for 90 minutes off my Slinger, alternating between my Prince Classic Graphite 107 and my Prince Phantom 107 G. Very tough deciding which one to use most often. The Classic is about an ounce heavier and demands the best technique you can muster.

@Paiste2002Fan 2 года назад

As I’ve gotten older and slower with back pain, I retired my 95 square inch racquet with 18x20 for a Speed Pro. And a Speed MP if I’m having an off day and need even more forgiveness.

@caseysmith544 15 дней назад

ProKennex makes some good racquets.

@AndrewSalad 2 года назад

Great video thank you!

@Tennisnerd 2 года назад

Glad you liked it!

@caseysmith544 15 дней назад

@@Tennisnerd I am using cheap 2000's Ace Pro Jr Power Contour where racquet is going to be for 6 l but 2 new unused black and yellow where when they come in I will make a 4 inch grip size a 4 & 1/4 by using 2 layers of Black cloth Hockey tape on 2 of 6 and Loctite Ultra Gel Control on final end wrap on bottom. Even latest one of red and blue racquets coming in 2024, I will remove over-gip added and use a single layer of tape. Now I only bought 2 of black and yellow model2024 becuse they were bran new old run and had shipping dropped as well as buying 2 or $50 pre tax. I only got one originally on early 2000's around 2002--2003 which has a matt layer of spray-paint clear coat in 2020 because paint was peeling off. On all I have in also a very light amount of black spray on rubber paint on for keeping paint from being scrapped off so on some where hey are scraped I used more paint and will do same on incoming models for protection. I got 2 more o Red and Blue in 2023 and 1 red/blue and 2 new never used Yellow and black in 2024 as more racquets of model I like before all is left are smaller Power Contour/Ace Power Pro Jr in 23 inch size in same black and yellow color. Only reason in 2000's I got red and blue model is becuse yellow and black model in same size was moving to a 4 inch grip and at time I was using strictly stock grip only in a stock racquet. My size of 5 foot 2 inch/157.5 cm and 107--110 pounds or 48--49 kilograms is why I use a 25 inch long racquet and I would be looking for a similar 25--26 inch racquet model if I did not have my one rom 2000's already I liked.

@kenharris7194 2 года назад

I grew up playing with your more traditional thin beam small head racquet with 90-95 sq inch frames. At 54, I still prefer a thin beam frame but in a 100-105 sq inch head. Lately, I have been using the Dunlop CX 200 OS and also the Blade v7 100. Both frames are quite forgiving and spin friendly with good control. The Blade 100v7 is more suited towards a modern topspin swing path where as the Dunlop frame can used with a modern or traditional swing path to be effective. The Dunlop is more of an attacking racquet and great at the net. I am still getting used to the Blade v7 100. Both are spectacular frames that fit well into my game and are very arm friendly 💪!

@CH-yp5by 2 года назад

I used a Wilson Six One 95s for the last 5 years and found I had to modify it with too much lead tape for stability and plough through when playing against heaving hitting high top spin players. Last month I switched to. Yonex Vcore 95 an only had to add little led tape to 9 & # positions, but have found a large improvement with consistency due to the much larger sweat spot. I was already used to a 95 so I figured I may as well take the advantage of control that the 95 size provides just get a frame thats more forgiving.

@alwaysfinishwhatistar1521 2 года назад

Prince 93p is a gem! PT 2.0 is great, too but even to powerful for me.

@hypewalliams629 2 года назад

Your footwork is looking really nice

@Nopanop 2 года назад

Hey fellow tennisnerd , can you do a video on how you record your matches/practice sessions. What equipment do u use and how do u set it up

@djblackwing737 2 года назад

I usually pair classic frames like prestiger MP, prince phantom 93p with gut/ poly hybrid. Gives the power and spin that it needs and it last becuase of the close string pattern.

@movdqa 2 года назад

Me too but I don't have a big choice on the matter due to arm problems. If I go stiffer (outside of high twistweight), my arm complains. I played with OS, thick beam, RA 73 in my 40s and they were great. One day my arm complained and I had to give up on that racquet. Most of the people my age (60s, 70s) use light, stiff frames and run into arm problems from time to time.

@dennisvanranderaat5396 2 года назад

Was able to get 3 almost new Yonex vcore tour G frames. Changed the basic grip into leather one and added some lead at 3 and 9 which makes it great frames. Why do they make rackets worse instead of better?

@tedneanderthal7373 2 года назад

I have fallen in love with the Head MicroGel Midplus (98 sq. inches; 16 x 19 string pattern). It's my "fun" frame because it's so plush! As a long time tennis player, I love the feel of the ball on the strings! I won't win many matches with it because it lacks power and spin production though it cuts through the air well on serves making my flat serve more effective. Don't underestimate the importance of feel for the ball on the strings! Racquets that have feel and flex are the frames that I find most enjoyable to play with and that's what tennis is about (for me at least).

@luigivillani4924 2 года назад

Yo! Loved the video. I too have fallen in love with the Head PT2.0 over the tweeners I grew up with. Idea for a video: what modern string setup pairs well with classic frames? With the tighter pattern I tend towards a hybrid setup, but I sacrifice spin for comfort and power. What strings give you your ideal balance of spin & power for these tighter string patterns?

@vijaynarsapur147 2 года назад

This is a great topic. I have several classical type frames. They somehow don't go well with polyester strings. Similarly, most modern frames don't go well with multifilaments. Just my experience. Jonas... Please do the honors.

@jamestennis 2 года назад

There was a video that discussed this last year on here. 'Can you play modern tennis with a classical/old school racket'. But, decent idea for a video. Jonas seems to tend to use these classical frames with a variety of modern string set ups

@meahall 2 года назад

I play a lot of serve and volley, so I find the feel of the "classic" orientated rackets to be important. Currently torn between my modded ncode 90, and an old PS85 that I recently started hitting with. I suspect I'll go to a lighter, bigger-headed racket when I'm older though.

@cradlecap123 2 года назад

Thank you for racket nerd stuff. It gives me escape from my problems. It's good to have a laugh and try certain frames. I have the Wilson T2000 and it's a bit of a shock to play with. It feels like it's made out of an old pram. The Dunlop Maxply is worth a few knocks as well - you can still get some welly on serves. Sometimes cheap aluminium frames can be good on certain shots as they pocket the ball like a lacrosse racket. The pro staff 90 is worth a try as well. I've done the best serves with the stick. My favourite racket I smashed a few months ago was the Dunlop Force 100S with dunlop silk strings - a brassy feel but great.

@pikeykam 2 года назад

Just came back to tennis after nearly twenty years of squash! When I was a teenager my racket was a Prince CTS Approach, strung with synthetic gut at 62lb. Now I'm using a Prince Phantom 100x 305g with Solinco Confidential 55lb. Love this combination, soooo much control and spin, able to really rip the ball and not send it out. The frame really reminds me of the old Approach, love the old school type frame. Have tried power rackets and found them too stiff and not enough control. The Prince has everything I want from a frame.

@rodctenis 2 года назад

I also played with Prince CTS Approach! What a great racket. I strung at 25 kgs though. Now I play with Babolat Pure Strike and Wilson Blade v7 16x19 after trying (unsuccessfully) to play with Babolat Pure Drive which was an extreme experiment as before I was playing with a Prestige Flexpoint 18x20.

@johnbrondumnet 2 года назад

You should try a lower tension especially with that string eg 50 pounds or even high 40’ies

@pikeykam 2 года назад

@@johnbrondumnet tried 50lb but found that 55lb was more suited to what I like, maybe when I train a bit more, might drop a few lbs at a time to try. I think currently the plushness and flexibility of the frame match up to the stiff strings fine for me.

@johnbrondumnet 2 года назад

@@pikeykam all good - it is all about personal preference after all :)

@ofahlstrom 2 года назад

I grew up playing 95 sq inch Radicals and I've dabbled with 98s and the like but never felt comfortable. I have the most fun and feel like I play the best with my pro stock HEAD 292.1 mids. They're heavy at 354 grams (strung, with OG) but feel fantastic in hand. The extra weight makes it feel just silly-stable and solid. Could my game improve with a different racquet? Possibly. But having something that makes the game fun and gives me confidence... hard to beat.

@returntotennis706 9 месяцев назад

I learned to play in the late 80s and played up through the late 90s. After over a 20 year lay off I came back to tennis. I really struggled with the lighter, modern racquets. I enjoyed them, but struggled. I picked up my old frames and immediately played better.

@philanthropenos1074 2 года назад

If you are blocking, giving an angle, returning, putting drop shots, serve and volleying, hitting 1H backhands I'd say go Classic!

@miguelbarahona6636 2 года назад

You described my playing. I´m playing the best tennis of my life with the Pure Aero.

@BullyGarfield. 2 года назад

@@miguelbarahona6636 i love my pro staff 97

@roman2374 2 года назад

where would you place a head speed mp on the line between classic control and modern tweeter frame?

@feralonmu 2 года назад

I like how you head fits whit the wooden racquet in the wall 😂😂. Nice video!

@Tennisnerd 2 года назад

Thanks 😅

@miguelbarahona6636 2 года назад

It's his tennis aura!

@charlieknoch5502 2 года назад

18*20 is the way to go!!! And it's a myth you can't hit spin with it....but why would you want to? Hahaha

@mteca5093 2 года назад

Is blade 18x20 most equal string pattern in 97 or 98? Is prestige mp pro more open 18x20 or vcore pro ?

@trenerpotennisu 6 месяцев назад

I am 40, tennis coach, use PC600, best for me and my elbow 😊

@honkeyness9427 2 года назад

Could you talk about an extreme situation of using a wood racket and a western grip? Does the western demand a light racket and a big head? I’ve recently gone semi-wester (from eastern) with my Prince 93 and I’m having no problem with getting tired - but full Western may not work. Also, I have a theory that most rec players are too conservative on their grip and don’t realize it - trying to mimic pro mechanics with a weak continental-eastern doesn’t work.

@wizbiz1589 7 месяцев назад

Just wondering, I have been quite in between v8 18x20 and Prestige MP, and you mentioned that Blade can be too demanding some days and you went back to Prestige. Do you think Prestige MP is less demanding than Blade?

@nikolaaleksandrov9090 2 года назад

As a recreational player I would like to give you advice for your gameplay if you don’t mind my nonprofessional opinion! I think you are a bit late with the preparation phase of the ground strokes and in particular with the unit turn. So this is what I see and you may know it better than me! Nevertheless, great content of your videos, super interesting and useful information about the rackets! Keep doing that!

@jeffpaxton9172 Год назад

The new frames feel hollow, lack feel and swing weight. Yonex RX-32 4 me.

@puopolvj2 2 года назад

How do you get credit for what we purchase at TW?

@emjay2045 2 года назад

Use the link he provides

@charlieknoch5502 2 года назад

I play the Head Prestige Classic, several models...the Prestige MP (95), Prestige Classic Austria mid (93) and the iPrestige MP (98). IMO, if you have a big serve and come forward to net this is the racquet you want and especially if you hit old school flat. Today's racquets with the exception of a select few are junk, top spin is very over rated...the spinners I play against hate how my ball stays low and skids through the court without coming up. My vote is for the Classic racquet!!!

@user-yh4zx4ky9j 2 года назад

Hi tennis nerd, most of your posting are well done but I can’t agree with you on the pt2.0. Yes, it’s a wonderful racquet and I bought 6,7 of them. It’s a classic frame than one can still buy brand new from store at inexpensive price. Shots are precise and feels good. However, it’s far different from the pt630. With flex 58, 59 vs 65, the difference in layout and a bit on balance make these two distinct racquets.

@Tennisnerd 2 года назад

Hey, yes they are quite different for people "in the know", but both are excellent frames.

@caseysmith544 15 дней назад

@victorgarcia6418 Год назад

This Head 2.0 is Guga’s racquet… best left from 90’s.

@MK-jj6tg 2 года назад

Hi brother! Could you help me choose a racquet for an advanced player. I hit extremely hard/fast and very flat shots mostly. I can handle a heavier weight racquet but am looking for one that will optimise power the most, really utilising my strengths. Thank you!

@BullyGarfield. 2 года назад

we need some hitting sessions of you with the extreme tour

@christopheradam6967 2 года назад

Dear Santa, please send me a racquet that both, play like a classic racquet so I can smash flat shots but also generate a serious top spin heavy ball when I want.. it should be stiff for accuracy but and not give me tennis elbow. So far the closest I’ve got is a prince phantom 93p, strung with hybrid strings on high tension

@ssportslivetvstreaming 2 года назад

is the pro tour 98sq but DOES IT FEELS LIKE A 100SQ ???

@AndrewSalad 2 года назад

It’s 95sq in

@djblackwing737 2 года назад

and it plays like a 95sq inch hahaha....

@ssportslivetvstreaming 2 года назад

@@djblackwing737 really ? I hate 95sq for me the Dunlop cx200 is 95sq but for me its a 100sq IDK

@eduardocruz2879 2 года назад

i have the new head radical pro and i have been playing better with my blx six one tour from and k-factor six one tour, and they feel way much better too, the only downside is that they are quite demanding for me at the moment since i was absent from the sport for nearly 9 years

@guidodelgiudice5 2 года назад

I enjoy my three head speed youtek IG mp 100sq 16/19 300grs 20mm beam. Buttery soft.

@dispatcheruswc8293 2 года назад

Hope you review Head radical tour bumblebee one day. Modern racquet is more stiffer and powerful and makes players more like robot, even little shot ball is key technique on hard court lol.

@charlieknoch5502 2 года назад

Head Pro Tour 2.0 looks good spec wise but I read it does not really compare to the Head Pro Tour 280 which had twaron in the mix.

@BullyGarfield. 2 года назад

ur hitting def looks nicer with the kblade 88 ngl