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Classical Composer Reacts to Echoes-Live in Gdansk (David Gilmour) | The Daily Doug (Episode 127) 

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In this edition of #TheDailyDoug, I'm reacting to and analyzing Echoes. The song was originally written and released by Pink Floyd on their 1971 album Meddle. This version is a live performance by David Gilmour. It's an epic listening experience!
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@JakeBrannan5499
@JakeBrannan5499 3 года назад
Pink Floyd wasn't playing Phantom of the Opera, Phantom of the Opera was playing Pink Floyd
@david14011
@david14011 3 года назад
Yes, thank you.
@francisberthiaume2461
@francisberthiaume2461 3 года назад
They actually sued Andrew lloyd weber for copyright issues with his fantom of the opera and won the battle! So Andrew used the same echoes pentatonic scale.
@PABLOPARDO1
@PABLOPARDO1 3 года назад
@@francisberthiaume2461 Did they? When?
@davidkershner7513
@davidkershner7513 3 года назад
Have you heard Rick Wakeman's "Judas Iscariot?" I've always thought there were Phantom Of The Opera similarities... I thought that was more of what Weber borrowed from, than Pink Floyd.
@lozsquire8311
@lozsquire8311 3 года назад
Do you know Its a Miracle Roger Waters song. He has some things to say about Webber.
@alantattersall3190
@alantattersall3190 3 года назад
You really MUST watch 'Echoes' Live in Pompeii 1972. Watch them play this masterpiece while they were young. An awrsome experience.
@hieroeadawulf9123
@hieroeadawulf9123 3 года назад
Pompeii would be great if the director hadn't put half of the song at the start and the other half at the end of the movie!
@alantattersall3190
@alantattersall3190 3 года назад
@@hieroeadawulf9123I believe that's actually the way they played the concert. Bookended by Echoes.
@OzzIRIS
@OzzIRIS 3 года назад
the DVD intro is aaaa.. mmm...journey!... I agree.. he should give that version a try!
@freddyarroyo7099
@freddyarroyo7099 3 года назад
I tink the same
@freddyarroyo7099
@freddyarroyo7099 3 года назад
Live in Pompei echoes
@brandonlbartlett
@brandonlbartlett 2 года назад
Considering this was the last time Echoes was played, and will ever be played by David Gilmour since the passing of Richard Wright, makes this so poignant and beautiful. Richard Wright deserves more credit for pink floyds sound than he is given. my favorite song of all time.
@brunohidd3071
@brunohidd3071 11 месяцев назад
My favorite off all time too
@TheUnabeefer
@TheUnabeefer 7 месяцев назад
Rick is the George Harrison of Floyd... I miss him.
@stevehazael3896
@stevehazael3896 2 года назад
In case nobody has noted Doug, Echoes was released in 1971 on the album Meddle. Phantom of the Opera was released in 1986.
@teknotony
@teknotony 2 года назад
1971 ... 50 YEARS AGO !
@frankshailes3205
@frankshailes3205 2 года назад
@@teknotony And still as fresh as the day it was born. Great to see Doug appreciating the lyrics, they were sweated over (I have the earlier "science fiction" version about exploding planets or whatever it is!). After some years' gap I put Meddle on the car stereo and had to turn it up, it blew everything "modern" out of the water, still.
@nickbaggins7942
@nickbaggins7942 2 года назад
And Roger Waters isn't shy to say so. It's a miracle
@walter2990
@walter2990 2 года назад
My point exactly! We have to forgive Doug for this, because he's really listening to it for the first time. Good rif's, are good rif's..., no matter who uses them!
@vanil666
@vanil666 2 года назад
Thanks, I was about to mention it 🙂 And as Nick Baggins referenced "Then the piano lid comes down and breaks his fucking fingers"
@koot3418
@koot3418 3 года назад
Keyboardist is Richard Wright, original Pink Floyd player. This show was the last time they played the song before Richard died, after that David Gilmour said he won't play this song without him
@williamosborne6866
@williamosborne6866 3 года назад
RIP Richard.....playing for God.
@andreascala2663
@andreascala2663 3 года назад
@@williamosborne6866 let me correct you ..... Richard is now with Syd on the dark side of the Moon and they are playing for the whole Universe
@stephanf3673
@stephanf3673 3 года назад
He was the heart of the band. Thanks, Rick, no-one of us would be the same, nowadays, without you.
3 года назад
Very close to the studio version
@clintstudt3796
@clintstudt3796 3 года назад
Their voices blend so well, smooth as silk , I love this song, great choice, !
@Captnken09
@Captnken09 3 года назад
You called it "The Phantom of the Opera progression"... In reality, the Phantom should be called the "Echoes" Progress as it was written 15 years prior to POTO Musical release.
@FelixIsMyName
@FelixIsMyName 3 года назад
Was thinking this stuff was WAY before most of ALW's musicals
@paulhester8086
@paulhester8086 3 года назад
Good call!
@DemonNeil
@DemonNeil 3 года назад
Was going to say exactly the same thing... I’m always amused by Roger Waters’ hilarious comments on why he didn’t take ALW to court for what seems an especially blatant bit of plagiarism.
@BassGoBomb
@BassGoBomb 3 года назад
I think that maybe Doug was using Phantom as a refeence point for 'others' not so familiar with Floyd and or music. I too thought it was odd and that Echoes precedes Phantom. This 'run up, run down' effect is used all over Classical and jazz Lllooonnggg before any of us .. .. :-)
@petertyrer8530
@petertyrer8530 3 года назад
We cower in our shelters with our hands over our ears Lloyd-Webber's awful stuff runs for years and years and years An earthquake hits the theatre, but the operetta lingers Then the piano lid comes down and breaks his fucking fingers It's a miracle. From amused to death roger waters
@joannefrancia5940
@joannefrancia5940 Год назад
David likens this song to a “conversation between two old friends” meaning himself and Rick. He has said that he will no longer perform Echoes. In his words, “Not without Rick”. Thank God for RU-vid so we can still enjoy the talents of all the great performers who’ve passed away but that were recorded on video to be enjoyed forever! RIP Rick!
@adambrzezinski1416
@adambrzezinski1416 2 года назад
I live in Gdańsk and I watched it live. Amazing concert :)
@dfolt
@dfolt 5 дней назад
The town of my father, and my father's father, and my father's father's father.... lucky you. So glad it has been recorded.
@Bubbalou21
@Bubbalou21 3 года назад
In a press release when David Gilmour announced he would be playing at the Pompeii ruins (after 45 years or so since the Live at Pompeii film), many fans were asking and begging him to play Echoes there (as they did in 1972). He declined to. His reasoning was solid and relevant to your analysis. He said that Echoes (musically) was always intended to be a "musical conversation" between himself and Richard Wright. Since Rick had passed from cancer a few years prior he added "regrettably, that's a conversation which can never happen again." My two cents worth. Thanks, Doug!
@windmasterfluke
@windmasterfluke 3 года назад
Hadn't heard this before but it is a beautiful tribute to Mr Wright
@MiguelBaptista1981
@MiguelBaptista1981 3 года назад
Makes perfect sense. Thanks for sharing, Godbless.
@tracylbloom1
@tracylbloom1 2 года назад
Yes, and while I understand and respect Davids's stance on playing Echoes live, it's selfishly a loss for the masses to hear that played live. But realistically, it wouldn't be the same, giving even more credence to David's wise decision! But man what a song! I agree with Doug, this song is as relevant today as it was 50 years ago, maybe even more so today! Be kind, peace out Brother!
@Row65537
@Row65537 2 года назад
😭crying and regretting Rick RIP
@RushfanUK
@RushfanUK 2 года назад
@@tracylbloom1 Having seen them play this at the Royal Albert Hall during the On An Island tour I fully understand why David would not want to play this without Rick.
@xfiazc07
@xfiazc07 3 года назад
That beautiful exchange at the end between Rick and David, it was them saying goodbye to each other, they knew it was going to be the last time they played the song together. They kept Rick's cancer hidden from the public. I've never seen anything so solem and moving in all of music.
@audreyplunkett6111
@audreyplunkett6111 3 года назад
I read this comment after watching this, and I guarantee the next time I watch it I won’t be able to forget this. It’s so powerfully moving. Rest In Peace Richard. Lovely comment
@kevinbailey3384
@kevinbailey3384 3 года назад
You are spot on, and it is the best version of this song I have ever heard. So very moving
@Sthunderrocker
@Sthunderrocker 3 года назад
I'm not ashamed to admit I cried when he died...
@777jones
@777jones 3 года назад
@@Sthunderrocker I cried too, his work was magical.
@photografiq_presents
@photografiq_presents 3 года назад
This is the most pretentious piece of bullshit I've read for a long time. Stop projecting your neediness onto others. Musicians have these moments all the time.
@BRbassedu
@BRbassedu 2 года назад
"lyrics are just as good as everything else" One of the main reasons I love PF so much. No show-offs and virtuosisms, just a full dose of art!
@itzslopchaosz7108
@itzslopchaosz7108 Год назад
EXACTLY! Too many bands try too much and end up losing quality. PF knows exatcly what they're doing, and they deliver everything perfectly
@asgeirosnes3850
@asgeirosnes3850 2 года назад
I think this was the last time David Gilmour and Richard Wright played together. Wright was terminally ill here. And there is a couple of moments in this concert, where they are looking and smiling to each other as saying "Thank you old friend. It's been a blast!" Very very moving. RIP Richard! BTW. Richard Wright on keys was one of the founding members of the bands that eventualy became Pink Floyd along with Nick Mason and Roger Waters (and Bob Klose). Guy Pratt on bass has played with Pink Floyd/Gilmour since 1987, and also played with Madonna and Michael Jackson. Phil Manzanera on guitar was a member of Roxy Music. Steve DiStanislao on drums was a drummer for Crosby, Stills, Nash ans Young. Jon Carin on keys has played with Pink Floyd/Gilmour since 1987, and has also played with Roger Waters, Pete Townsed, Eddie Vedder and Kate Bush. Quite a band.
@waynedwyer6509
@waynedwyer6509 6 месяцев назад
That is useful information that I did not know thank you. A nice pedigree of musos right there. I always regret to have never seen them live. DG is one of my favourite guitarists and he can hold a tune too :)
@rising1984
@rising1984 3 года назад
Dogs from Pink Floyd needs to be your future friday's listening
@Ligtez
@Ligtez 3 года назад
Or an entire Dark Side album session!
@Wielki90
@Wielki90 3 года назад
@@Ligtez agree, a review/comment of the entire Dark Side of the Moon album would be awesome - you just can't listen to that album in parts. Same goes for Animals...
@zlatan5799
@zlatan5799 3 года назад
Pigs three different kinds.
@nornog
@nornog 3 года назад
Really anything from animals.
@Psychprogrock
@Psychprogrock 3 года назад
Sheep!
@ChrisRash
@ChrisRash 3 года назад
In 2 weeks, Shine On You Crazy Diamond! Please?!
@hustler3of4culture3
@hustler3of4culture3 3 года назад
Yesssssss please
@lynnhoffman247
@lynnhoffman247 3 года назад
Parts 1-5 and 6-9! 👊🏼
@TorIverWilhelmsen
@TorIverWilhelmsen 3 года назад
Or Atom Heart Mother Suite
@sourcebased
@sourcebased 3 года назад
Exactly in this sequence!
@christopherhasenberg1113
@christopherhasenberg1113 3 года назад
Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast....or not, lol
@Paul_Halicki
@Paul_Halicki 2 года назад
24:20 "The Patience" Pink Floyd was a very patient band. They knew how to properly develop a theme. David Gilmour didn't have to hammer the guitar like Eddie Van Halen to connote great emotion. He could get a lot more out his guitar with far, far fewer notes. The precision with which he chose which notes to play (or not) is the magic behind his solos.
@paulcooper8929
@paulcooper8929 2 года назад
A little like the great composers of the past. How to arrange the notes, how to sustain them, fade them and of course, mastery of the spaces between. Always brings Beethoven to mind.
@scottmccandless8111
@scottmccandless8111 2 года назад
So, so true. Enough said!
@Alpha_7227
@Alpha_7227 2 года назад
Take those four notes on Shine on you crazy diamond for example. Beautiful. Eddie was a showman and relied greatly on flange and delay. Still eruption is one of the finest pieces of music I have heard, makes you stand up and notice.
@Paul_Halicki
@Paul_Halicki 2 года назад
@@Alpha_7227 Yes, and most importantly, he lets them "ring out." Eventually the beat comes in and he develops it, but the intro to that section is just those four notes including an extended fade.
@Roberto-oi7lm
@Roberto-oi7lm 2 года назад
When it comes to notes-per-minute David Gilmour is way down on the list of guitarists; however, he knows which are the important notes and those are the ones he plays.
@northvilletunnels
@northvilletunnels Год назад
I have always felt Live in Gdansk was David Gilmours' finest solo moment. I've seen him in every tour he has done 1984-2015
@JaggusBaro
@JaggusBaro 9 месяцев назад
David’s On An Island tour was his peak. His voice was top notch as well as his guitar playing
@northvilletunnels
@northvilletunnels 9 месяцев назад
@JaggusBaro I agree 100%
@1Mannco
@1Mannco 9 месяцев назад
I was in front in the first row at a big concert they had in Califronia in 1988, A Momentary Lapse of Reason Tour, and David sounded great.
@963460
@963460 3 года назад
Very moving performance, two old friends playing toghether for the last time. R.I.P. Richard Right.
@Ospif1
@Ospif1 3 года назад
Gilmour has that uncanny ability to evoke emotion from that guitar that I have never heard anyone else achieve.
@xlarge2011
@xlarge2011 3 года назад
I have several guitars with single-coil pickups. They are amazing sounding. Gilmore bent the strings with such feeling, making it near impossible to copy. Classical strat sound with a bunch of compression and delay.
@tommy2x4
@tommy2x4 3 года назад
Paul McCartney's "No More Lonely Nights"....when David comes in with that signature sound...takes the song to another level!
@MattKrogmeier
@MattKrogmeier 3 года назад
I hear a ton of Gilmour influence in Opeth’s Mikael Åkerfeldt. His solos evoke Gilmour’s feel.
@MrDantres
@MrDantres 3 года назад
Try listening to Steve Rothery from Marillion, he's awesome, his style his obviously Gilmour inspired.
@ShroomKeppie
@ShroomKeppie 3 года назад
In Dire Straits's "Sultan of Swing," when Mark Knopfler says "He don't wanna make it cry and sing," I always imagine Dave Gilmour at that moment, because nobody makes it cry and sing like he does.
@lecartable
@lecartable 2 года назад
The Pompeii version is too powerful in my head, my mind, my heart, and reminds me of a unique event in my life that no other version of it can ever replace.
@wanderer85295
@wanderer85295 2 года назад
You and me both . this version of it seems almost too fast too labored and missing key components . i may be overly judgemental but i really find it a travesty when someone is reacting to echoes and instead of going to the 1972 pompeii they go to this recording .
@Largeportion1000
@Largeportion1000 2 года назад
100%
@doncorleole2356
@doncorleole2356 2 года назад
Would you guys please enlighten a studio-version-head? What makes Pompeii better than the album version?
@wanderer85295
@wanderer85295 2 года назад
@@doncorleole2356 i would love to. Shed a little light on the matter. As long as we are talking about the 1972 live at pompeii version . and the best way to explain is to advocate profoundly with all of the conviction of a preacher on sunday morning. Go watch / listen and you will understand. If you are all about the studio version as i was / am then you will likely fall in love with the 1972 live at pompeii and it will become your most liked version and as far as the Pulse version ( Gilmore and wright ) is concearned it falls short in my opinion its tired and missing 2 key elements. Waters and Mason. The best thing i can say about it is that there is a sense of forlorn solitude in the final exchange between Gilmore and Wright that leaves you with a heavy heart and a sense of finality .
@ferociousfil5747
@ferociousfil5747 2 года назад
Live in pompeï is not just the music, the visuals are stunning, the emotions and sound is so pure. What a movie! Made me fall in love with pink Floyd.
@siddhanthgirish3060
@siddhanthgirish3060 2 года назад
RIP richard Wright. An absolutely beautiful composition from these two legends. Thanks Doug for reviewing this song
@srbaran
@srbaran 3 года назад
Small correction: Phantom of the Opera was playing Echoes. I think there was a legal battle over it, but it may have not escalated to that.
@matthewdrews
@matthewdrews 3 года назад
Thank you for mentioning this! Echoes was released in 1971. Phantom of the Opera (Webber) opened in 1986, a full 15 years later. It could be coincidence or inspiration without Andrew Lloyd Webber realizing where he heard that progression. Then again, there are a lot of instances where it appears Webber "borrowed" from other songs....
@op-z
@op-z 3 года назад
exactly what I wanted to say, - there is a video comparing Webber to a ton of other predating pieces... sounds like he got "inspired" by lots of other artists)))
@VegetableSui
@VegetableSui 3 года назад
Came here to say this...
@10CentHead
@10CentHead 3 года назад
Webber borrowed a lot of his themes
@lynnhoffman247
@lynnhoffman247 3 года назад
@@op-z Including Queen - listen to “White Queen” live from the Odeon at Hammersmith 1975 & you’ll hear it in the instrumental section (which is amazing).
@rovcanada1
@rovcanada1 3 года назад
I have to admit, my eyes were welling up a little as I watched Richard play.
@elausente21
@elausente21 3 года назад
Here he was at his peak.... 😭
@cruelangel6062
@cruelangel6062 3 года назад
@@elausente21 he was always at his peak. Rip Richard one of the greatest keyboard players of all time
@simondavid2519
@simondavid2519 3 года назад
I can’t listen to this version of Echoes without shedding a tear…
@philseida5428
@philseida5428 2 года назад
R.I.P. Richard Wright..... Incredible Musician, especially in Pink Floyd, but even a Better Man.
@BRbassedu
@BRbassedu 2 года назад
As a former prog-keyboardist, I know there are many other players far more skilled then Rick (at the art of pressing the keys), but damn, no other has influenced me as much as him. The way he builds synergy is unique and beyond majestic.
@nightowlhunter3owl93
@nightowlhunter3owl93 2 года назад
I know this is all about the song and the amazing music being played but has anybody noticed just how quiet, just how engaged and just how respectful the crowd is? Here they are, playing in front of 50,000 (or more) people and you can't even hear a peep ( 23:00 through 27:00) . They are that engrossed into what the band is playing. Amazing.
@jimjarrell8807
@jimjarrell8807 Год назад
My sons and I saw this concert in Chicago. As I recall they did about 12 dates before heading to Europe. Gdansk was their last stop I think. You're right about the respectfulness of the crowd. The make up of the crowd was interesting too - all ages, colors, all everything. Really good experience.
@guiltseeker
@guiltseeker 8 месяцев назад
It is actually Mesmerisation !
@louaceveu1925
@louaceveu1925 8 месяцев назад
I grew up in the Seventies in Spain. I didn't know a word of English (My second language was French). I was mesmerized by their artistry, their depth, their simplicity and later in my life (I learned English), their amazing lyrics. They have been the symphony that soothed my soul throughout the years and I am dismayed at the lack of substance of the music nowadays. Thank you so much Pink Floyd and Great Britain for such an amazing trip!
@allisonrich5061
@allisonrich5061 3 года назад
Richard Wright and David Gilmour's voices always complimented so nicely.
@santiagoaguilarramirez7128
@santiagoaguilarramirez7128 3 года назад
And the contrast of Waters insane persona was also a great combination
@jasoncdebussy
@jasoncdebussy 2 года назад
So true Allison. Both have a slightly breathy quality, to my ear at least.
@joegillam1497
@joegillam1497 2 года назад
Does something to my soul.
@sharik08
@sharik08 2 года назад
Complemented
@kenmolinaro
@kenmolinaro 3 года назад
David Gilmore describes this song as a conversation between his guitar and Rick Wright's keyboard. With Rick's passing, David has said he will never perform it again.
@georgeclarke8137
@georgeclarke8137 2 года назад
I'm trying to immerse myself into the music and you are interrupting with your analysis. Having followed them for 50 years, I know how great they are. I also know that their music will live forever. Their like will never be seen again. I have perfect pitch and play the violin. Your non-stop analysis detracts from the music and spoils a wonderful performance.
@scottnyc6572
@scottnyc6572 Год назад
Wright on the keyboard is absolutely amazing!! The progression of this song gives goosebumps every time.
@county365
@county365 3 года назад
The seagull effect was discovered by accident when David’s wah pedal had the cables accidentally reversed & it caused feedback sounding like a bird (for whatever reason people call it a seagull). David found it musically useable. As a result he ended up having Pete Cornish (the man responsible for his pedalboard wiring for years upon years) rewire his wah pedal specifically for this effect alone. The effect is varied in intensity by manipulating the second tone knob while on the bridge pickup, which requires having the second tone pot wired up on the bridge pickup as well as the middle pickup.
@sitnstill4now
@sitnstill4now 3 года назад
Love this info, thanks for the insight!!!
@WELLBRAN
@WELLBRAN 3 года назад
or you could just ask Bill Nelson to play a seagull with no wiring help
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 3 года назад
I stand corrected. I thought it was when he plugged into the wah backwards! Your explanation makes more sense, thanks mate.
@county365
@county365 3 года назад
@@WELLBRAN no clue whom that is
@WELLBRAN
@WELLBRAN 3 года назад
@@county365 sister seagull...bebop deluxe..
@martin.coronado
@martin.coronado 3 года назад
I love the way the crowd reacts to the very first sound. Just ONE note and everyone is always screaming. Love it.
@marcosilvanavarrete173
@marcosilvanavarrete173 2 года назад
the final part is a emotional farewell to Rick. Goosebumps.
@74Husky
@74Husky 2 года назад
My all time favourite Pink Floyd song! The 1st time I heard this was driving back to Boston very late at night on a pitch black deserted 2 lane highway. It must have been in the early 70's. I had an FM radio in my car and this song came on. It was totally ethereal. Driving this moonless night with only my driving lights and my instrument panel providing me with any illumination, it was easy to imagine that it was an airship I was guiding rather than my trusty Datsun 510. The next day I had to seek out this exceptional album and purchase it from my local record store.
@randomcamera746
@randomcamera746 Год назад
Well, my friend, you have experienced something I have not, and that I envy you for.
@chameleon6222
@chameleon6222 3 года назад
The Keyboard player is one of the original members of Pink Floyd, Richard William Wright (28 July 1943 - 15 September 2008)
@Tazer691
@Tazer691 3 года назад
Yep....Lloyd-Webber totally ripped off that part for Phantom. Roger was asked about it in an interview once and said he couldn't be bothered suing him lol.
@dagahk1
@dagahk1 3 года назад
"Lloyd-Webber's awful stuff runs for years, and years, and years, and years..."
@HarryBork
@HarryBork 3 года назад
"Then the piano lid comes down"
@Tazer691
@Tazer691 3 года назад
@@HarryBork "And breaks his fucking fingers"
@marcoilariuzzi
@marcoilariuzzi 3 года назад
It's a miracle
@Kombivar
@Kombivar 2 года назад
The bird effect is done live, by plugging the wah-pedal in reverse and closed tone knob, if you turn on wah pedal and turn the tone knob from 0-10 gives this bird effect - you can check it yourself!
@billcarson
@billcarson 2 года назад
In my opinion one of the most beautiful rock songs ever, poignant and deep. Great show when the likes of Gilmour and Wright play. Rest quiet Rick your talent will remain immortal
@gosmo4504
@gosmo4504 3 года назад
The "bird" guitar part was accidental in the studio when some one hooked up David's WahWah backwards and found those sounds. The rest is Echo's history.
@Kneith
@Kneith 3 года назад
Put the wah in reverse an the the tone control on your guitar works with it to make an oscillator, kind of
@garyanning9731
@garyanning9731 3 года назад
I did that once by mistake. I nearly crapped myself.
@georgebarjoveanu3137
@georgebarjoveanu3137 3 года назад
well, rather than a bird, this section is known as the "whale" song. anyways it is one of the most creative electric guitar works
@gosmo4504
@gosmo4504 3 года назад
@@garyanning9731 I did too...did not sound that "pretty" lol
@jasonallen5318
@jasonallen5318 3 года назад
Cool, I did not know that.
@gratefuldadgad
@gratefuldadgad 3 года назад
this is an exceptional live version...however, the studio version is by far superior...it contains so much more nuances...pure perfection. my personal favorite song of all time, and always will be.
@madeleinesuzette
@madeleinesuzette 2 года назад
I'm with you.. The original is my favourite PF song.. & PF has been my favourite band since the late 60's..
@tperran
@tperran 2 года назад
Agreed. This song defines Pink Floyd. As if any one song could accomplish that!
@axlrosea675
@axlrosea675 2 года назад
No the best is live in Pompeji
@harvey66616
@harvey66616 2 года назад
Each version has their place. The solos and jams in this live version are sublime. But a modern live version fails to reveal all of the nuance the studio version has. And when one puts the studio version in historical context, keeping in mind how _hard_ it was to get all those sounds back then, it's that much more amazing. Using the live version prevents the opportunity to consider how important the studio _production_ was for Pink Floyd material, on top of the composition and musicianship.
@cristianabraham384
@cristianabraham384 2 года назад
@@axlrosea675 Yess, the studio version sounds like a different song compared to to Pompeii version.
@dav264
@dav264 2 года назад
Richard Wright is such a master keyboardist and so dearly missed. Love Pink Floyd and Echoes.
@BrettMorin
@BrettMorin Год назад
To this day I think this is the best version of Echoes ever. I don't know what it is but it feels the most alive.
@DarkKnight-wf3po
@DarkKnight-wf3po Месяц назад
They dont play the whole riff though
@AdieAdie17
@AdieAdie17 3 года назад
They didn't "record the guitar to make it sound like a bird"...that is David playing that live, right here, right now. He was simply a God on making whatever sound he wanted from his guitars.
@shortfuzedave
@shortfuzedave 3 года назад
He's playing it through a wah pedal plugged in backwards which self oscillates with the pickup. You play it with the volume knob.
@alessandrolibero0401
@alessandrolibero0401 3 года назад
@@shortfuzedave tone knob actually
@carlosclaptrix
@carlosclaptrix 2 года назад
He is human.
@macpac22
@macpac22 3 года назад
David said he couldn't possibly play this song again without Rick. A fitting end. What a performance.
@pmar27
@pmar27 2 года назад
One wonderful thing about experiencing Pink Floyd in concert is that they understand how special it is for the audience to be there and they put forth such an effort to make it phenomenal.
@Muck006
@Muck006 2 года назад
Echoes was our ROLEPLAYING SOUNDTRACK for "you are in a swampy area".
@donovanemery597
@donovanemery597 3 года назад
Stage left is Phil Manzanera, guitarist for Roxy Music, stage right on keyboards and vocals is Richard Wright (who was on the original studio recording).
@aka.Mr.French
@aka.Mr.French 3 года назад
old theater guy here. you have your stage left and stage right switched -- "stage" directions are from the performer's point of view, not the audience -- but thanks for identifying Phil Manzanera. I knew that guitarist looked familiar, but had forgotten Phil had toured with Gilmour a bunch.
@slatvatfatcat
@slatvatfatcat 3 года назад
No, vocals are by Gilmour.
@aka.Mr.French
@aka.Mr.French 3 года назад
@@slatvatfatcat -- I believe Donovan was only saying that Rick Wright played keyboards AND sang on this, not that he was the ONLY singer. Here, and on the Meddle album, vocals were performed by both Gilmour and Wright.
@frankshailes3205
@frankshailes3205 2 года назад
@@aka.Mr.French And on the Pompeii arena concert film. Dave and Rick always harmonized.
@henkestenke
@henkestenke 3 года назад
The synergy between David and Rick was something out of the ordinary. Rest In Peace.
@bhogge51
@bhogge51 2 года назад
David and Richard do a remarkable conversation with each other with their playing….absolutely brilliant
@TheSlain1969
@TheSlain1969 2 года назад
It’s like a communication between guitar and keyboards.. Definitely one of their masterpieces
@Rodeo1202
@Rodeo1202 3 года назад
That Live in Gdansk is one of the best live albums around
@998cooper
@998cooper 3 года назад
From 17.00 still brings tears to my eyes. Richard Wright is a genius. God Bless him.
@johnyourek8887
@johnyourek8887 2 года назад
Amen
@GBart-sx5ne
@GBart-sx5ne 2 года назад
I was in Gdańsk in 2006 on this concert. in the 2nd row... and this was the dream come truth, because I saw a half of Floyds live on stage with their classics and... with Gdańsk Baltic Orchestra conducting by Zbigniew Preisner himself (!!!) and Leszek Możdżer on piano in few song from Gilmours "On an Island" songs. This was amazing! I've cried meny times on this "show". I never swa Pink Floyd live because... well.. they never came to Poland, and I was to young to go to another country to see them. So... after 15y from Gdańsk... I still have a huge felling about this live. very sentimental.
@bluesmanen1
@bluesmanen1 5 месяцев назад
Music doesn't get much better than this...a fantastic master piece 🌞
@dougrobison1156
@dougrobison1156 3 года назад
This version is important as it was the last time Rick Wright played Echoes before his passing, although credited to the whole band Echoes is a Wright composition. I second the recommendation below from Alan Tattersall about the Pompii version, a must listen.
@simply_psi
@simply_psi 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed and appreciated this stunning piece of music. David Gilmour and Richard Wright had a strong empathy both as musicians especially their harmonies but also as great friends. David never really got over Richard's untimely death. Whilst Roger Waters wrote the piece it is how all four Floyd members interpreted this glorious avant-garde rock piece that makes it so special.
@sarachakraborty6783
@sarachakraborty6783 3 года назад
Roger Waters wrote the piece? He wrote the lyrics. The music is by the whole band, with David and Rick obviously doing the heavy lifting.
@snifflepup
@snifflepup 3 года назад
@@sarachakraborty6783 Thank you...This is definitely David and Rick's song, notwithstanding the contributions of Roger and Nick. It's why David retired it.
@Rickwardful
@Rickwardful 2 года назад
I just cannot decide if this or the original version is the best ever rendition of the fantastic piece of music. The fact that it was one of Rick Wright’s final live performances makes it even more epic. The way his keyboards and Gilmour’s guitar ending bounce off each other in Gdańsk so well, makes it an equal to the original version for me.
@davidskelhorn9711
@davidskelhorn9711 2 года назад
The public audience just continues to grow - marvellous after 50 years - now we have the Tribute Bands to keep us sane! TIMELESS!!!!
@MattKrogmeier
@MattKrogmeier 3 года назад
I was hoping someone pointed out that Echoes pre-dates Phantom by several years...y’all did not disappoint! Of the matter, Waters said “Yeah, the beginning of that bloody Phantom song is from Echoes. *DAAAA-da-da-da-da-da*. I couldn't believe it when I heard it. It's the same time signature-it's 12/8-and it's the same structure and it's the same notes and it's the same everything. Bastard. It probably is actionable. It really is! But I think that life's too long to bother with suing Andrew f**king Lloyd Webber.”
@denest3435
@denest3435 3 года назад
Yes predates many years
@nienkejillesenbinkwalraven2893
@nienkejillesenbinkwalraven2893 3 года назад
Roger Waters ‘reaction’ in It’s a miracle ( song on solo album Amused to death) last verse: We cower in our shelters With our hands over our ears Lloyd-Webber's awful stuff Runs for years and years and years An earthquake hits the theatre But the operetta lingers Then the piano lid comes down And breaks his fucking fingers It's a miracle
@jonthebru
@jonthebru 3 года назад
In an interview on the BBC Roger made a strong comment about how there are really a limited amount of combinations of notes, chords and keys. He made the point that it amazing there aren't more combinations that sound the same. It was an interview after he did Ca ira, his French language opera about the French revolution.
@josbruls
@josbruls 3 года назад
I think Richard Wright is really saying goodbye to all of us at the end. And Gilmour is already immersed in sadness.
@richardwilson8219
@richardwilson8219 Год назад
I can forgive someone who isn't a die-hard fan from not knowing Richard Wright, but his contribution to the band should never be under-estimated. He was one of the members from the original band (Syd Barret years) and while he left for a while he truly was the glue. The only memner who actually had professional training and the true one who helped the arrangements come together. Not the greated keyboard/piano there was, but he was definatly the go-between that kept Roger and David from killing each other.
@TheSchwartzIsWithYouToday
@TheSchwartzIsWithYouToday 2 года назад
I heard PF play Meddle and Dark Side of the Moon live in 1973 before anybody really knew who they were. I had certainly never heard of them before, but I fell in love with them. I was 17. Today I'm 65 and I've grown up with all of their music, some of which I like more than others -- mainly Meddle, DSotM, and Wish You Were Here, with a handful of songs from other albums. I think it's b/c those three albums were not like any "album" I've ever heard. They're "episodic" -- like one long song. If I was stranded on an island and could only have one music album, it would be Dark Side. The next two would be Wish You Were Here and Meddle. I can listen to them over and over and over ... and never get tired of them. I don't know why that is, but it's the truth. I know nothing about music theory. I suspect anybody with a musical ear (NOT me!) can follow the chord changes in the music, but those comments mean nothing to me. I'm far more interested in hearing your take on the overall composition and flow of the music. Why do you think is this music so damned addictive? And why do you suspect PF's music has been in the TOP-100 charts longer than any other band's music in history?
@LonesomeTwin
@LonesomeTwin 2 года назад
Right with you on the music theory part although it's good to have someone who knows telling you why it all fits as well as we instinctively know it does The reason I think this track in particular hits us is because it never, ever sounds like a 22+ minute piece. Seductive is exactly the word. It piques your interest, you want to know where it goes next, and because it's Floyd, not Lloyd Webber, it does indeed go somewhere, pulling you right along with it until it's over and you don't want it to end and you don't know where the time went. At least we never miss the starting gun tho 🌝
@Silber7
@Silber7 3 года назад
This song is a journey... and once it starts I have to stay till the end. As proven yet again by this video I clicked on, originally without the intention to listen to it whole. Yet here I am.
@lynnhoffman247
@lynnhoffman247 3 года назад
Yep, every time 👊🏼💯
@robertpreviti6525
@robertpreviti6525 3 года назад
This song was written in early 1969. After playing all through the 70's, a PINK FLOYD concert consisted of them playing 2 complete albums, side one , track one all through. Three song encore, at that point they would always end the show by playing the entire ECHOES suite. Leaving the audience stunned! How do I know this? I've seen every show east of the Mississippi starting in October 1968 through the last American tour PULSE 1994
@EnosEverything
@EnosEverything 2 года назад
Bit of a fan huh !! how's your bank balance Bob ??
@jyutzler
@jyutzler 2 года назад
Your memory's a bit off! This song did not emerge until the spring of 1971.
@EnosEverything
@EnosEverything 2 года назад
And "Every show east of the Mississippi !!" does that include the U.K. , Europe , Asia ?? - they are all east of that river...!! and west of it too.
@n3bruce
@n3bruce 2 года назад
@@jyutzler If you listen to some of the older bootlegs, you can hear the development of Echoes in the song "The Embryo", which can be found on the BBC Archives from 1970-1971. There are other forerunners as well such as "The Return of the Son of Nothing" which was first played in public in May of 1971 with space themed lyrics rather than undersea lyrics.
@jyutzler
@jyutzler 2 года назад
@@n3bruce I am quite familiar with live recordings from this era and I do not feel that The Embryo and Echoes are the same song. Both songs were played at the same gig regularly in 1971. Yes, Echoes was played live under many names before they settled on Echoes.
@simono.sniper3214
@simono.sniper3214 2 года назад
Doug, Meddle was the first Floyd Album I bought when I was 14 years old, 1971. Still one of my favourites, and Echoes timestamps many wonderful memories for me. Glad you enjoyed it.
@glennyates2194
@glennyates2194 Год назад
One of the greatest musical compositions of the twentieth century. So powerful and haunting.
@davidsolus9410
@davidsolus9410 3 года назад
The "bird" or "seagull" portions aren't recorded - they're played live. It was originally an accidental discovery, but after David perfected the "backwards wah" effect, he had whomever was building his effects rigs (either Bob Bradshaw or Pete Cornish depending on the era) put in a reversing circuit for the wah. You trigger it with the wah cocked, and use the tone control and a volume pedal to manipulate the pitch and level. I'm in a Pink Floyd tribute band, and one of our guitar players has the setup to do it. We blend Echoes into One of These Days, and it's during the crossover that he brings this sound out.
@yeticusrex1661
@yeticusrex1661 2 года назад
"Which One's Pink?"
@kurterickson9781
@kurterickson9781 3 года назад
Live at Pompeii is the version you need to review to see Pink Floyd in it's prime.
@thewal1ofsleep
@thewal1ofsleep 3 года назад
I hear people speak poorly of the Pompeii version for some reason, but I prefer it over all others. I know there is a glitch with the audio recording, resulting in it sounding just slightly sharp and fast, but the performance is so beautiful that I don't care.
@reigenlucilfer6154
@reigenlucilfer6154 3 года назад
@@thewal1ofsleep i have never heard people badmouth the pompeii version in my life, your statement feels like another world to me. i heard nothing but outstanding praise about it. you must have had a bad circle
@thewal1ofsleep
@thewal1ofsleep 3 года назад
@@reigenlucilfer6154 the complaints are about the audio, not the performance or the visual elements. I can't remember the specific explanation, but I was reading something which described the recording of the audio and that there was an issue with the tape speed, which resulted in it sounding slightly sharp, but not something which could be reproduced by modifying instrument tuning. Basically, if a musician wants to play along with the Pompeii version, they might have a hell of a time.
@TheFlowerGuys
@TheFlowerGuys 3 года назад
Pompeii is good but this version is better
@echoesyt
@echoesyt 11 дней назад
This is my favorite PF song. I was in Gdansk for this concert. I am getting goose bumps watching you nail the chords. And the surprise this song brings you.
@spaalonebabaguuscooties
@spaalonebabaguuscooties Год назад
DOUG u HAVE to do one for the album version it's so spectacular
@horscategorie
@horscategorie 3 года назад
Richard Wright and David Gilmour - I always get chills...
@warrenbitters1020
@warrenbitters1020 3 года назад
You asked, is this version of Echoes similar to the studio version? Answer: yes, very similar. I like this version better because it really features Richard Wright's mastery of the keyboards and, of course, has high-quality video to chronicle the performance. As a young lad I used to listen to Echoes every night in my lightweight Sennheiser headphones, normally falling asleep before the song finished. I also regularly listed "Warren's Top 25" songs, and noted Pink Floyd - Echoes was my #1 on March 1, 1981. You could actually do several good shows using the songs from that March 1, 1981 list.
@mohammadrezaila3630
@mohammadrezaila3630 3 года назад
Hey ! I`ve been the same for almost 20 years now! This song is my always routine ... What a masterpiece , imagine 50 years ago. something like this definitely will never ever happen again .
@mayoite160
@mayoite160 2 года назад
only thing that's missing is Nick's crisp, thoughtful drumming
@Yobanero
@Yobanero 2 года назад
I love the extra texture given by rhythm guitar and a second keyboardist in this version. I think this is my favorite live version.
@EmilioIacobelli
@EmilioIacobelli Год назад
Thank you for reviewing this, one of my top 5 Floyd songs, and this version is my fave, it's positively an astounding aural experience
@percyprod6574
@percyprod6574 2 года назад
I made the mistake of watching the original Pompeii version, then the one in Gdansk. Both superb, emotional works, but the difference in David and Richard physically just brought home how the cruelties of ageing affect us all.
@God-vl5tk
@God-vl5tk 3 года назад
Dont talk while Gilmour's playin his solo
@Badosureinhardt
@Badosureinhardt 3 года назад
Atom heart mother suite please, underrated gem!
@EENS7
@EENS7 3 года назад
I agree. He should make a video reaction to Atom Heart Mother. I think it's better than this song.
@TheFlowerGuys
@TheFlowerGuys 3 года назад
@@EENS7 great song but not better than Echoes
@ChrisHutchison
@ChrisHutchison 3 года назад
@@EENS7 Agreed. And it also highlights the musical genius of Ron Geesin, rarely properly credited for his collaborations with Pink Floyd. No Ron Geesin, no Atom Heart Mother.
@EENS7
@EENS7 3 года назад
@@ChrisHutchison Absolutely! agree.
@FalkoWenta
@FalkoWenta 3 года назад
It's the actual master peace of Pink Floyd. :)
@Dopi-1956
@Dopi-1956 2 года назад
I listened to a lot of your reactions Doug. This was the first one where I thought: don't talk through the music :-).
@jschmoe57
@jschmoe57 Год назад
Their music is like fine wine! It only gets better with age...
@grendelum
@grendelum 3 года назад
and yes, it’s a piano going through a leslie case... an interface that didn’t exist and the engineers at abbey road studios had to build special for richard wright back when
@williamosborne6866
@williamosborne6866 3 года назад
Great reaction, Doug. The musicians on this track: Lead guitar - David Gilmour Rhythm guitar - Phil Manzanera Main keyboards - Richard Wright (RIP) Backing keyboards - John Carin Bass - Guy Pratt Drums/percussion - Steve DiStanislao Phil, Guy, and John have been with David since the Pulse tours (as Pink Floyd, with original drummer Nick Mason).
@plantdesigns7889
@plantdesigns7889 3 года назад
Guy Pratt has actually been with them since 1987.
@claudiofernandes9834
@claudiofernandes9834 2 года назад
That's it, Doug!! The piano goes through a Leslie speaker, so the "bubbly" sound.
@geompat1
@geompat1 2 года назад
I personally prefer the studio album version, but to watch them perform this live is a treat. The "conversation" between the keyboards and guitar throughout is epic. To imagine a group of guys in their early 20's composing this masterpiece is mind blowing.
@quadparents
@quadparents 3 года назад
This live version is delightful. The original version is astounding.
@marcghiggeri4965
@marcghiggeri4965 3 года назад
So grateful that 300 years from now people will be listening to Pink Floyd with the same reverence as we listen to Mozart, Beethoven ETC today...…..and I got to see David Gilmour live......
@TheFamousMockingbird
@TheFamousMockingbird 2 года назад
They won’t though, they are totally different in almost every imaginable way. You must remember it’s easy to think that now but Mozart literally has almost 300 years of time past him and he is still such a titan people choose to use him to represent compositional virtuosity.
@EnosEverything
@EnosEverything 2 года назад
So what , I got to see Ludwig Van Beethoven live when he was with Ludwig and The Earwigs , just about the same time he released his 3rd Symphony - I spoke to his piano roadie in Berlin about his tuning and whether he'd be doing "Erioca"in it's entirety... I was told that he would be doing a new piece which begins with a bit of Morse Code... it was so fascinating.... That was a highlight... The lowlight was going to see Wolfie Mozart in Salzberg but the bugger had just died.... God I feel old.
@jameswhile544
@jameswhile544 2 года назад
Doug, I recently discovered your channel- excellent. One of the people I kinda teach asked me about dynamics the other day. I just showed him the outro to this. It's the most perfect example of light and shade in a song- that interplay at the end is incredible. Keep up the good work.
@edster612
@edster612 2 года назад
I'm glad you did this and stopped a few times. This piece is one of my favorites because of EVERYTHING in it. The lyrics, the flow, the way it wants you to feel and the way it sweeps you up inside yourself and then lets you down gently but filled with thought. People that get Floyd, get it. Those that don't...are trying to keep those walls up.
@vernonsmith6965
@vernonsmith6965 3 года назад
What a lovely and heart felt comment from a man that knows his music
@jamesanderson5268
@jamesanderson5268 3 года назад
My favorite part is near the end where the guitar and keyboard are talking to each other.
@TheSuperSnake313
@TheSuperSnake313 2 года назад
Wow that was really spot on for a live performance! Thanks for getting me back down the Pink Floyd rabbit hole!
@YogiMcCaw
@YogiMcCaw 2 года назад
I used to meditate to this song a lot in my teenage years. For me, it wasn't just about human beings, but about all life and about the cosmos itself. From the beginning we get deep-sea imagery with the submarine-type ping echoing through the depths, later we get seabird imagery, and cosmic winds, eerily reminiscent of human voices (flashback to the "Celestial Voices" in A Saucerful of Secrets"). The first verse with something stirring without a cause - something from nothing, the original act of creation. The layers of meaning are many in this song, and the musical techniques and psychedelic effects represented Pink Floyd at the height of their creativity. It's a total work of art. It's poetry, music, soundscaping, and in concert also a lightshow all in one. And they were doing this in the early 1970s, when the technology we now use for all those things was still just being developed. They were truly at the experimental edge of their art at the time.
@Eddie-PT
@Eddie-PT 3 года назад
Hey Doug, you really went out on a limb with this one. I loved it! For me, this is an absolute masterpiece, out of the many that this legendary band created, through the years. Probably, people asked you to react to this specific version, because this was one of the last recorded appearances of Rick Wright (the awesome keyboardist) on a concert. This version is pretty close to the original recording, indeed. Loving your work. Perhaps the best thing, for us Rock maniacs, is to actually see someone, with a keen ear like yourself, listening to these fantastic pieces, for the first time - and thus having their minds inevitably blown. By the way, since you have Maiden Mondays (which I love), how about making some Floyd Fridays?
@frankshailes3205
@frankshailes3205 2 года назад
Rick was great, and for me when he joined voices with David (like on the Pompeii version)... that was heaven in sound form.
@doric_historic
@doric_historic 3 года назад
Whilst i watch this video in Scotland on a Friday night with a nice pint of Guinness, i shall compliment Doug on having a great channel.......cheers!
@integralherbalism3093
@integralherbalism3093 3 года назад
Cheers to Scotland. I"m in Ullapool.
@brickmason7301
@brickmason7301 2 года назад
The original Echoes on Meddle is all I want played at my funeral
@vickiconley3638
@vickiconley3638 2 года назад
I just love how the guitar and the keyboard talk back and forth to each other, so cool.
@badgerello
@badgerello 3 года назад
Yes; it’s very close to the recorded version aside from slight variations in timing and noodling on the solos.
@Silber7
@Silber7 3 года назад
True. Exept one little go around of the intro before the lyrics start, which they left out on this live tour, it's all original. Most solos and lead lines are improvised to a degree, of course.
@craigstiles5186
@craigstiles5186 3 года назад
The keyboardist is Richard Wright from Pink Floyd. His last performance of this song before he passed.
@kenhoward5611
@kenhoward5611 2 года назад
I really wish I could transport you back to the 70's when all this amasing music was released Pink Floyd, Genesis, Yes et al. It was truly outstanding. Not taking anything away from any other genre of music. It really was, for me at least a ground breaking time. A time that is missed by myself and my friends. Long live the 70's - tongue in cheek
@jtmichaelson
@jtmichaelson 2 года назад
Wanna know how close to the record it is... nearly perfect. THAT is the brilliance of David Gilmour.
@Thespian6969
@Thespian6969 3 года назад
Pink Floyd has been my favorite band of all-time. You are right, just let them jam for hours and I'm a happy guy. It can be the same thing over and over and I'm in a magical place. Great band and a fantastic selection!!
@oris247
@oris247 3 года назад
This guy got it. Credit also to Roger Waters for those 'heart-warming' and 'life affirming' lyrics that still stand today.
@Stewbie63
@Stewbie63 Год назад
Whoever went to that concert got every penny worth.
@glennkeaton7800
@glennkeaton7800 Год назад
So. Now you've heard it. My 2nd best progressive band's #1 favorite song (behind, but almost neck to neck with "Close to the Edge.") I appreciate what u r doing - been watching ur posts for years. Boggles my mind that u haven't heard this before. Now, listen to the studio version. IMHO, this live version kicks ass over the studio version, but the studio version kicks serious ass. That should tell u how awesome it is. p.s. I saw them perform this live in 1974. It was beyond believable.
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