Clay's Nature Rant - Moral Orel *SPOILERS* 

As horrifying and pivotal as this moment was, I'm ashmed to say that I died laughing when Clay revealed Orel shot his lquor bottles, specifically the delivery of the voice actor when he said "You shot ONE THING on this trip and its TWO of my liquor bottles?!!" I found it oddly hilarious

God, the way Orel says “I hate you” is so genuine, the delivery was incredible!!! It’s probably the exact moment he lost every ounce of faith he had in his dad.

Orel is such a loving son that Clay had to literally SHOOT him for him to say he hates his dad. And after this episode Orel doesn't see to talk to his dad for six months.

This guy makes Butters' dad look like the best dad ever

3:21 i will never ever forget that line, because of how emotional orel sounds while saying it. You can tell he hates it when Clay is wasted off his ass

Any trace of the rose tinted glasses Orel saw life through was completely destroyed during this trip. From confusion, to unease, to fear, to anger and some kind of acceptance. Orel was always the light of the show…this was dark. No music, no humor.

This episode is genuinely what REALLY changed Moral Orel. This went on form the typical black comedy series to a darker and terrifying drama series.

The Nature episodes were definitely my favorites, i wish this show would get picked up again:( it seriously deserved all the seasons it shouldve gotten. Timeless show for 2005.

0:52 "I gotta tell ya, Orel. (drinks liquor from the bottle) Your cup is always half-empty."

When I watched the first episode, this is the kind of stuff I was hoping the show would get into. It took two seasons, but they really delivered.

*content warning flashes* Me: yup that’s what I’m here for

Okay I rewatch this scene a LOT and the way Clay describes alcohol reminds me of how he said he can't believe he ever let Bloberta pleasure him, so did she get pregnant while he was drunk??? Damn

This is a stop motion show that makes deeper suspense than most other movies and animation.

Honestly, I can see why Orel would say that he hates his dad. Clay is such a complete and total scumbag...

The hidden secret of this scene is that Clay does not confuse "blight" and "bright". All the good things make him depressed and all the bad things give him joy. He enjoys watching Orel lose his innocence, in fact he lives to hurt people (this is made more clear in later episodes); death would be a genuine relief to him. He is basically 100% self-hatred.

The way Orel is framed as small and helpless while his dad inappropriately dumps all of his adult traumas and fears onto his son is so relatable and brutal, you can tell the show creators were working from experience with these situations.

Clays voice actor is amazing, his screams of emotional agony and the way he yells "why do you stop working on me" have been engrained in my mind ever since I first heard it. It's crazy that the only other role I've ever heard him do is baymax. The man is barely tapped talent.

"There are no accidents!" Is one of the last things Clay's mother ever said before she died.

The acting and animation in this scene feels so raw, I forget that it’s stop motion. Clay’s voice acting is amazing.

As someone who grew up with an alcoholic parent, i find this show's representation extremely accurate. I lived through very similar situations from the "you become a bad person when you drink" to Clay's monologue about his addiction. Having to take care of a drunk parent as a child is something I don't wish on anyone.

The “Hate away, sister. Hate away.” Is one of the strongest parts of this scene. At this point, clay knows that he’s doing something god awful, but he proceeds. He knows that he’s a lost cause at this point yet doesn’t show any bit of remorse. He’s just letting himself be an awful person because he KNOWS he’s irredeemable. He’s accepting his fate as the monster he has turned into, but he can’t do anything about it at this point.

I think this moment is where Orel's worldview was shattered. I mean he always looked up to his father and was completely faithful. Only now does he realize too late his father was not the man he thought he was. Though I do wonder if Clay drinking the rubbing alcohol was simply due him being too drunk to realize what he was doing, or if he was honestly trying to spite Orel?

He shot his own son and doesn't take any accountability for it. Damn, this show does a great job making me hate such a despicable father.

For Orel of all people to say "I hate you" to someone truly means that whoever he said it too is down right an awful person, poor kid man

What’s great about Clay, imo, is that the story goes out of its way to explain-and I mean _really_ explain-why he’s the way that he is whilst simultaneously never woobifying him or framing his actions as justified. He was very much molded into the absolute terror he is today, and the show encourages us to feel sympathy (or maybe pity) for who he used to be, but it still doesn’t shy away from reminding us that nothing he’s done is at all justified or even okay. He truly is the shining example of how monsters are made and not born.

The raw emotion in Oreo’s voice when he says “it’s because you become a bad person when you drink” makes me tear up every time I see this scene. The last shred of Clay’s ‘morals’ he throws away with such quick abandon really show how jaded he’s become, even to his own son.

crazy how scott adsit (the VA for clay) went from voicing one of the worst fathers portrayed in any animated show to a funky walking marshmallow that goes balalalala

Clay struggling to pull his pants off really sums up his character more than anything He’s clearly struggling but refuses to do the simple thing to actually make it easier (taking off his shoes) instead just opts to put them back on

The absolute panic in “sorry dad it was an accident!!” is so heart wrenching

Just realized that you can interpret his rant about women being the same can be referring to his relationship with his wife, his alcoholism, or both

"My life is sunny and blight." GOD THIS IS SO FUCKING GOOD I LOVE THIS SHOW. In all technicality, Clay has a good life, he has a wife, two kids and one who love(d)s him to death, he has a beautiful house, and he's the fucking mayor of Moralton, his life is sunny, but it's NOT bright because he never wanted ANY of this, he never wanted a wife, he never wanted kids, and he never wanted his dead end job. His life is sunny, but it's not bright, it's blight, even if it looks good, he wants so much more...

Bro you can tell that when oral said “ITS BECAUSE YOU BECOME A BAD PERSON WHEN YOU DRINK!” Clay was on the verge of “oh my lord have I been doing” and “oh, OH REALLY?”

This show is honestly the all the evidence I needed to never judge a book by its cover. I was blown away how good it got

Christ. Never watched the show, but damn this Orel character had it tough. Wouldn't be surprised if he lets his old man die alone when he's grown up. Let him hate himself to death.

I love the biblical subtext of this show so much. The flies clinging to clay is an excellent touch

I think the use of flies here is quite symbolic of Beelzebub. Even the flies connection to the dark Lord himself it really works well for Orel’s worldview via his religion and works well to symbolize Clay’s inner evil being brought to the forefront. A sense of toxicity and tainted ideals due to his unhappiness and own trauma.

I like that Clay says there are no accidents in response to Orel shooting his liquor and when he shoots orel. They really weren't accidents.

Man, that part at 5:39 is really tense when you first watch it because you think that Clay is going to overdo the alcohol on the wound and put Orel in considerable pain. But then he just fucking drinks it like a psychopath which is somehow even worse.

I really wish Scott Adsit got any sort of award for his performance especially in this scene, it's genuinely one of the most terrifying six minutes of television because of just how truly unhinged Clay is becoming fully apparent to both the audience and Orel in a performance that perfectly fits just how angry, broken, and utterly irredeemable of a man Clay is

The fact that he kind of jokes around with orel afterwards makes it feel so much darker to me, idk why

My dad had a drinking problem and so did his father and grandfather. Except my dad was never violent, he just got really emotional because of his past traumas, and he’s been going to AA for years now and has never had any alcohol for years now. Seeing Clay like this really makes me appreciate my dad’s dedication to sobriety.

Watching this scene, I picked up on something I'm not sure the show does much up until here, but it's incredibly fitting given the scenario: it's how Clay drinks. In a lot of other adult cartoon shows, the characters that drink beer might just do a "glug glug" sound effect or something, and them getting drunk is usually part of a gag. When Clay drinks, it is loud and *obnoxious,* almost to the point that he sounds like he's desperate to empty the bottle and unable to help that. I'm sure it's 100% intentional on the show's part to have the VA make the most unappealing drinking noises possible, just to make the while thing a little more uncomfortable for Orel (and us) to watch.

3:17 you can hear the pain, desperation, and hurt in Orel's voice when he says this... god it's so realistic

1:33 I don't know why, but this shot in particular got me. Just the way that Orel tears up at the sight of his own father breaking down. I can only imagine how that feels.

Its honestly rips my heart to see Orel tear up when Clay says 'I hate myself'. Even though he had disdain for his father and even more after this moment and the hunting trip. He clearly cared and seeing his own dad, despite his malice and apathy, break down into a pained self-loathing tirade must've broken Orels soul to its core.

"you sit there for the rest of your life with nowhere to go and no one to be." God i love when Clay starts screaming, just like an agonizing animal because there's not other way to express the pain he's going through besides screaming at the top of his lungs, i've been there, when the pain is too great that you only can scream, just like an agonizing animal, he's suffering.

God, I forgot how good the show was at portraying realistically shitty parents. I've been in Orels position here, and the shot of him tearing up when Clay tells him he hates himself really gets to me. You're supposed to be able to trust your dad, and you're afraid of confronting him on his behaviour because you know you're still the child and don't want to get into trouble or make things any worse so all you can do is helplessly watch this adult spiral out of control and yell incessantly about things you only half understand and break down beyond your ability to help. It's such a sad and scary situation to be in. You stop seeing that person as a perfect figure of authority and guidance.

My god this show is amazing. I can’t get over this scene. The raw emotion of Orel really makes you feel for him. And the voice acting in both Orel and Clay is amazing. Also I was shocked to find out about this but The voice actress that voices Orel is Sandy Cheeks on SpongeBob and Cindy Vortex in Jimmy Neutron. And the voice actor for Clay also voiced baymax in Big Hero Six.

the fear in orel's voice and just everything about this hits so close to home. this is so horribly real

This scene made me cry real tears because orel's dad in this episode is like. Exactly like my stepfather. I think I've actually said some of orel's exact words to my own stepfather

i really couldn't care less about Clay's past. call me unsympathetic, but every ounce of sympathy fled my body the second he shot Orel and continued to blame him for it. he could've been at least partially redeemed in this scene if he showed some care for Orel or regretted his action but no, he couldn't even bring himself to do that. i know this isn't a very original thought but i had to share my hatred for Clay somwhere lol

3:19 the fact you can hear orels voice And know hes about to cry ☹️

I love how when Orel says he hates him, you can hear a snake hissing in the background. That attention to detail is amazing.

I just started watching this show last week and last night I got done with part 2 of nature and....wow. Moral Orel was already a great show that was funny, emotional, and a little dark but after watching Clay's rant, Orel sit in the forest for an entire day with a wounded leg, Orel kill a bear and lie to his dad, and the ending where his mom tells Orel that when his dad drinks it just reveals his true nature......it's now an amazing show. I just hope season 3 is just as amazing and dives into the more emotional aspects of Orel, his family, and the entire town.

Jesus christ this show's insane

"I hate myself." "I hate you." "Hate away, sister! Hate away."

Let me just say as a child (and now even as an adult) there’s almost nothing worse than your parents making their problems *YOUR* problems especially when you’re not equipped mentally or emotionally to handle them. It makes you feel uncomfortable, helpless, and at fault.

I like the detail with the flies all over clays body. His soul is rotting and they can smell it

I love Orel's face at 3:39. He's finally admitted to his dad that he doesn't like the person he becomes when he drinks, and what does he do after his own son says that he doesn't like his alcohol addiction? He immediately attempts to whoop him with his belt. Orel's face is like "Are you serious?" For a second he thought he finally made a breakthrough, he told his dad what he really thinks of his habits, maybe Clay will finally realize the error of his ways and apologize, but no, he goes for the belt. At this point Orel doesn't even care about the fact that he's about to get a whooping, he's just disappointed that his father won't listen to him and is too drunk to care.

I love how intense this scene is but it perfectly conveys how twisted and pathetic clay is

You can see for the first time Orels reaction to just how much his Dad actually drinks. This is a clay figure drinking copius amounts of alcohol and even I kinda cringe over how much Clay just downs this stuff.

One thing that isn't talked about here is the fact that the bugs just stay on clay. Showing just how much he's rotting on the inside, not willing or even able to fix himself. Not until Oral actually shoots, they just stick to him like shit. It's probably not intentional but seeing it again, and seeing Oral untouched the whole time, shows how different the two are. Filthy and innocence.

There’s a lot of people in the world like Clay. He hates himself, his existence makes him miserable. But rather than trying to turn himself around for the better, he just digs even deeper into the hole he’s in, wrecking and ruining everything around him in order to validate his own depression. Pain is all that he’s ever known, so his self worth is based on how much people hate and hurt him. But nobody hurts him anymore. He’s just pitied. And that fact ruins him.

It's been 3 weeks since I first watched this show and I seriously can't get over the two episodes. The voice acting on Clay is extremely underrated and one of the best that I've heard in a long time. His whole rant just HAUNTS me to the point where I think about it almost on a daily basis. This show was so well done, still upset that it was cancelled

Did Clay’s VA ever win an Emmy for this? Because holy shit.

The symbolism in this is very interesting. How the Flies landing on Clay sort of portray his corruption like Beelzebub, the daylight fading like how Orel saw his father in this almost sunny and bright setting slowly darkens as the bright happy image of his father is being slowly revealed and the red glow of the fire makes it like Clay is a demon, not the moral upstanding person Orel thought, and I think the bird might be Orels innocence. Shooting the bottles is Orels way of killing 2 birds with one stone. He shoots the bottles to stop his Clay from drinking and hoping to save him but it's for nought. And when Orel finally admits to hating Clay it is said with such rawness and venom.

This was fucked up but is seriously underrated as a show. The harsh truth of a "God-fearing Christian". They have a twisted truth of the world showed here.

Man this animation is fucking great. The subtleties in the body language really add a lot to the scene.

“I got shot by you” even the phrasing here sounds like oral has learned to speak in such a way that he is laying no blame.

Being a recovering alcoholic myself (and someone who had a dad with some alcohol issues too), the most painful part about this is how accurately they portrayed a drunken emotional breakdown, particularly the frequent mood swings Clay experiences. I remember my worst benders having me shift from venting frustration to bawling my eyes out like a baby in a matter of moments all for it to go back to an eerie calm seconds later. Thankfully it never got as bad as this scene or any of the other horrid things Clay did to Orel and his family, but that accuracy makes the scene that much more uncomfortable. And I mean that in the best way. The world wasn’t ready for a masterpiece like this.

I’ve always loved the subtle joke thrown in that the ONE thing (count ‘em, ONE) that Orel shot was *two* bottles of alcohol.

This show needs more seasons

The scene where he shoots his kid drinks the rubbing alcohol and passes is the most damning part of this. He leaves his child wounded and open to the possibility of bleeding out, losing his leg to that Tourniquet, or dying of infection because of his selfishness. The end of this episode when Orel questions his mother and she has a blase response to why they endure this misery was stark. Its the saddest episode because there are kids out there that have this kind of stuff going on in their lives and dont stand a chance.

The fact that Clay blames Orel for him shooting Orel says a lot. And it’s painfully accurate to some of the smaller things in many households

I've never watched this show but this was a horrifying 6 minutes. My heart goes out to every child out there with a parent like this

The way Orel immediately teared up when his dad says he hates himself hit me harder than everything else. My dad had a phase like this (He's a wonderful father but he was going through a hard time) and I vividly remember him saying that to me and I reacted the same way. Makes Orel feel like a real child who's going through a very traumatic experience and man...

As someone who admittidly drinks to escape from my problems sometimes, I never want to become a Clay, great character, even better cautionary tale

God Clay is so relatable i too struggle with the entraping ever-present pressure of society's unblinking gaze to wear pants

I recently watched through this show in its entirety for the first time. I thought I was capable of hating fictional characters, villains in movies and books and whatnot who do despicable things and show no remorse, but this show makes me realize I didn't even know what hate was. At least with most villains, you can muster some sympathy for their troubles, or see their actions as so cartoonishly evil that they can be funny, or their acts might be so terrible that your fright overcomes your dislike. With Clay, and many other people in Moralton for that matter, I don't get that. Somehow, despite the show going out of its way to depict some aspects of him in a sympathetic light, I hate Clay, with actual fervor that I haven't felt for any other character in fiction, or most people in real life, actually. He can't face his problems himself, or even attack other people his age for them; he takes his frustration out on a child because he knows Orel won't fight back. Because he can't bear to imagine anyone could ever be happy, as it confirms that the facade of happiness he puts up is a lie. Because he particularly hates a son he sees as ruining his life instead of facing the idea that he's responsible for part of it. Pathetic beyond measure, and an incredible failure as a parent.

The voice acting in this really adds so much to the scene. Orel sounds so scared at times it actually made me feel so sad for him. Like when his voice starts to break and tears form in his eyes after realizing how much of a mess his father is. It’s just heartbreaking that kids in real life have to go through this.

This is a disturbing moment, but I can't help but luagh when Clay drinks the rubbing alcohol

Ita uncanny how accurate the drunken animation is. The look and even the shine from the sweats. God damn

Orel only thinking of his father as a bad person when he drinks just goes to show his momentary innocence and the last remaining bit of hope his father was pure inside. Of course that was taken mere minutes after

0:23 They had the perfect chance to have Clay call Orel "Moral Orel" in a sarcastic tone... This is the biggest turning point of the show, so I think this would have been the golden opportunity to just flat-out throw the title in there.

when your tragic backstory is completely invalidated by just how much of a monster you are.

3:02 I remember saying this to my drunken dad when I was eleven, accidentally spilled a cup of beer and my dad just stared at me angrily. Now he's dead and just yikes

YOU SHOOT ONE THING THIS WHOLE TRIP COUTEM' ONE THING AND IT"S MY LAST TWO BOTTLES OF LIQUOR?!

This is seriously the best performance of both Scott Adsit and Carolyn Lawrence's careers.

Clay drinking the rubbing alcohol is such a perfectly coordinated act of hatred towards Orel for doing the right thing. Orel showed disdain towards Clay’s drinking, accidentally destroyed his liquor, and defied his order to not bring disinfectant. In one action, one 6 second action, he perfectly and specifically punished Orel for each of these actions, looking him dead in the eye and grinning while he does it. Clay is elated from seeing his son in pain. “This might sting a little” was the understatement of the century.

My mouth dropped like a tonne of bricks when he shot Orel and blamed him XD

5:57 I know it's suppose to be a serious scene, but that was pretty funny in my opinion

Can’t believe when Adult Swim got what they asked for, it was too much

I know this is all just a TV show, but god is Clay the most pathetic sack of crap I've ever seen in a character. It's impossible to feel any sympathy for him. And he does absolutely nothing to fix his problems; it's like he WANTS to be sad. And whenever someone tries to help him, he drives them away because he's too busy feeling sorry for himself.

Im glad that in the end its confirmed that Orel and his little borther grow up to be happy and have a good jobs and most of all Orel dosnt let his toxic relationship with his father be an excuse to be a neglectful alcoholic asshole like his dad or his mother. If I were him i would want nothing to do with either of them and let them wallow in their regrets and saddness since its clear they dont want ot change

Perfect lighting for this. The way the sunsets and he gets illuminated by the fire making his deranged rant more sinister.

"You might shoot it off by mistake!" "There are no mistakes!" In my opinion this is the show telling us that Clay meant to shoot Orel. The reason why I feel is debatable, but I genuinely believe that Clay shot Orel intentionally.

To everyone else, the glass half full, to clay , it's 23 and half bottles empty.

I thought this through and I gotta say, Clay slept like he was dead. Let's assume Clay was drinking until dark. It's warm and clearly either spring or summer weather, so it's likely 8:30 or so when he starts going off on Orel. Let's guess it took half an hour for everything to happen. Orel shooting his revolver, being shot in the leg, the bear and everything. Morning comes, likely six or seven, when Clay has Orel put his sleeping bag over Clay's head. Clay then slept 13 hours or so from that moment. So if we're assuming Orel is rounding up to 13 hours, that means Clay nearly slept a full DAY because he drank so much.

Best part about this scene is the complete lack of music. Makes it more terrifying and real

The single most powerful stuff I think ive ever seen on television. Orel as we knew him is gone after this moment.