Cliff Burton talks about Dave Mustaine (Radio Interviews) 

Dave was the antagonist in the band, he's the only reason he got kicked out.

jack mayhoff antagonist would write 4 fucking thrash song for metallica? and plus dave didnt even get a second chance

ng jason no one but him said he never got a second chance, for all we know, they were tired of his baffoonery for a while before the gave him the boot. don't get me wrong, he's one of my favourite musicians, I would have loved to see them write more songs together. now we have megadeth and metallica. so it all ended up okay in the end. They should have kicked out Lars instead

jack mayhoff id rather have a great metallica rather than two good bands

ng jason so you're saying neither metallica or megadeth are great ? they're just good ? and if dave would have stayed, he never would have written everything he had. it inspired him to become what he was.

Now Lars is a baby with ego lol. No but out of shit, I know Lars is actually a pretty cool guy lately, wish I could've met him when they played here last month.

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They were kids? Flawed argument even a 5 year kid knows what stealing is and can differentiate right from wrong.

Is 20 kid age or have i messed up on something with their ages

Yeah because multiplatinum rock star adults never have egos 😯

Many bands that have had members leave or kicked out and still use their material is a lot more common than you think, like Slipknot for example. After the first vocalist left (which I don't remember his name) the band still used the riffs and lyrics and material that he contributed to in the debut, Iowa and even Subliminal Verses album

@@johnsantos2133 mustaine said to not use his material

@@johnsantos2133 Anders Colesefini is his name.

Good thing they never used his songs for "half" a record. Mustaine's writing is mostly represented in Kill em All, which is 3 Mustaine songs, and one short part in Phantom Lord. Just a couple Mustaine riffs in Ride the Lightning, then 0 Mustaine in MoP. no doubt he contributed quite a bit to early Metallica's quality, but people overstate how much.

@@sdjslkdjlsskldjslkdjsl8262 He also wrote Seek and destroy. Look it up. Its the reason why James can play "the original solo" And not kirks Transcription. Dave taught him it, just like how he taught James and the rest how to properly use their gear and instrument, Not including cliff because he already knew the works and was in a band already before he decided to join Metallica over the fact they allowed him to do some solo stuff on their songs and in concert. Dave wrote seek and destroy and you can hear his voice and playing on the demo tape for that song. Metallica are liars, not kirk and cliff but mainly James and Lars. Who both treated Jason like shit. Are the problem. And they still have yet to admit to that. Typical corporatist sell outs.

wasnt he the one talking shit about daves nose?

you only say this cause he died early.. dude if he was still around you wouldnt like him nearly as much.

@@jeremybilbrey1133 that was kirk

@@sirspongadoodle did you know him? most of us never knew him so we don't know

​@@jeremybilbrey1133 that was kirk

Yeah but this is back when both bands were actually good. It's fun to watch these videos and get caught in 1980's drama. But yeah, your point still stands that the band members as of 2017 have set aside their differences.

@@Doomzdayxx its 2020 and this comment is still facts :)

@@nottathug Thanks. There is an interesting interview with Cliff's sister from like 2018 or 2019 on youtube. Check it out.

God hates Metallifags 👌

James will never FULLY let go of it all. He’s not a dick about it, but notice how he automatically shuts down any time Dave brings up making new music together

Heavy Metal testosterone man lol

+austin cutty Metal is not an old man's game.

why.....Mustaine was the reason!!!

+austin cutty Well because Dave made them :-)

+Hobbit Sodomizer yeah right, that's why they did much better albums without him :D:D

***** NO WAY!!! I never knew that! Did they hang out or anything? The whole story is so friggin' weird. I've heard that Lars and Dave were still very much in contact as far back as when Megadeth released 'Peace Sells...' Kinda like an on-again off-again friendship is what it sounds like. Even though they all make it sound like some 3 decade long feud. Which it was, but the way they all make it sound is like if they had met in person during that time they'd literally try and kill each other. lol Anyway, I found a link to the picture of Cliff and Dave from '86. It is definitely from just before the accident. Check your messages. :)

Ah, I think you're right. It's really cool that the two of them could still hang out. Cliff's girlfriend Corrine said something to the effect that they got along really well. Have you read Joel McIver's biography on Cliff?

Definitely! Now I have to get Dave's book, haha!

***** Sure! I just hope evil RU-vid lets me post it. Be right back!

Dave nowdays say that Cliff was great friend and are very mised, i dont think he and Cliff ended up with rage or something, probably they were close friends at Cliff last moments.. this interviev are shit, because we all know, how fast young guys changing mind

lol what are you talking about they were funny as hell. That's how you're supposed to be when you're in a metal band and you're 20. I love Dave Mustaine and Megadeth (seen them twice live) but he was so insecure and felt like he had to show the world that he's had his payback on Metallica after what they did to him when nobody really cared about it anymore. And that just made him look pathetic and small all the time no matter how heavy, fast, technical and good his music was (I still prefer most of Metallica's stuff but you get my point). So they had the right to make fun of him and people asking stupid ass questions like "why there's no picture of Dave on your record" when he wasn't even a band member anymore. Thank god Dave finally grew up and stopped crying about why he's not number one on the charts like Metallica and just started minding his own (very kickass and impressive) business.

VlaDuZa Were very young, immature, and not know how to deal with the differences between them! But I think Dave was, is, and always will be better than Kirk and James playing his guitar! (sorry for the bad english)

Even though I prefer Metallica's work, let's put things to order: Soloing technique: Kirk > Dave, even though they both kind of suck in this area. Composition of solos: Kirk > Dave. Riff playing ability: Dave = James. Difficulty of riffs: Dave > James. Quality of riffs in general: Dave = James. Front man: James > Dave (it is related to playing the guitar because it means being able to sing really well while playing, and James sounds better vocal wise while playing).

Soloing technique: Kirk > Dave ?? Composition of solos: Kirk > Dave ?? Riff playing ability: Dave = James ?? Quality of riffs in general: Dave = James ?? U can not have spoken serious! But anyway are opinions, not up to discussion!

VlaDuZa mind you daves riffs are way harder to play and sing at the same time

Exactly.

@@banjiman9869 how?

they did what they wanted to do

It's funny when idgits try to speak for the dead.

+MetalPersonJ Listen to the EP with Dave playing the solos. It was horrible. Kirks execution is so much better. Dave may be a better guitarist but when it comes to the execution of solos, Hammet was cleaner and less sloppy.

+uncle ruckus its all about attitude ... Dave mustaine had it in him others were just posing as one but dave did what he was sent out to do...

AND been paid for his work on the first four Metallica albums. If you look at the liner notes, Dave was credited for the songs written, but, I would love to know if he was compensated financially. I would venture to say he wasn't.

Tammy Sigmon If he was credited, he was most likely paid songwriting royalties.

@@tammysigmon853 lol he didn't even write one full album let alone 4

there are countless players better than both of them on this earth..........your point? i think kirk has played cooler melodies dave has no feel.......his leads are sterile

some agree with me,some not.. same as some agree with u, some not..to me dave/megadeth ryhthm playing is more tricky than metallica.. metallica more straight forward. Megadeth's chords has more variation yet metallica just keep on with normal power chords. metallica's rhythm s more about sound and feel. Megadeth is more technical.. Talking about the solos, although i also like kirk's work, i'm more into mustaine's.. there's a lot of feel in his solos.. (and he doesnt rely on wah..) :-) just my opinion..

riiiiiiiight!

u r Kirk Hammet's fanboy.. i dont blame u standing for your hero. But i think Dave is better than Kirk. Take Holy War for example, hear his rhythm in that song.. thats not a normal 'power chords' song. Try to play it. Face it.. Metallica's songs doesn't have a complicated chording like Megadeth's song. Thats the fact. But Metallica also have a bunch of very good nice songs. That is also a fact. (i only talked about rhythm skill. I'll talk about the solo skills later...) Megadeth=complicated tricky un-orthodox power chords. Metallica=normal 5th power chords plus deep palm muting. Both are gods of metal. No doubt about that. And Megadeth's songs doesn't have wah-wah.. Cheers! :-)

you mean the unpredictable pentatonic with unpredictable wahwah? Don't start to compare those guys solos..LOL please.. both of them are legends..and just stick to that.. and i don't call u a moron just for having that opinion.. u have the right to have an opinion.. :-)

I'm pretty sure that was Kirk.

PANTERA wrote a song about this called WALK.....You cry to weak friends that sympathize

They ran their business stealing Mustaines songs , assholes...

@@richrocken4uj151 Actually they got mustaines name all over the songs. It's copyright law my guy, dave allowed them to be released but dumbass fans try to instigate this feud again. (Especially megadeth fans)

Doomzdayxx Running their business with ready made stolen material from Dave Mustaine is a joke.

FAX even the big four’s days of good metal have passed!

@@gavinwurm3097 have you listened Dystopia

Nope

2 of the best thrash bands

@@mayfieldgage no

and then he let it become a dad rock band for the better part of the 90's. At least Load and Reload still felt heavy. What the fuck are some songs on CW and all of Risk even. Believe me, I love Megadeth but come the fck on they betrayed their scene even harder than metallica did. Only thing Dave didn't do to "sell out" was cutting his hair lol

@@Nestorglass cw has great tunes like she wolf shut up you fucking bitch

Yes Cliff=Dave though

Yep. Except cliff. No one stands a chance against cliff.

James is a better lyricist though

@@Benjawin6671 I wouldn't say that

@@Benjawin6671 are you absolutely fucking crazy lol?

well Dimebag Darrell is better

@@johnp82 That's debatable.

@@BegetterVIIEVEN Dime has more soul.

Dimebag is better than any metal guitarist

@@johnp82 He is better than any metal guitarist he is my inspiration for guitar as well

ok mustaine stan

OK David Mustang butt lover. What do you mean better player. He couldn't play bass better than cliff

yes he is

Well, technically Cliff was better, while it is true Dave is more aggressive a thrasher while composing, Cliff was more melodic and he could assemble a song in a more harmonic way than any of Metallica’s members (that includes Dave). Not saying Dave sucks, no, what I mean is that he was and is a better trashed than everyone on Metallica but as a songwriter Cliff was superior

@@jonathanarce7616 LOL 😂 enjoy Dave’s talent &Megadeth music man don’t fight it🤣

exactly!! if they even knew that both bands get really well along. keep rocking! lml

You kidding? There's a fucking Lady Gaga playlist on your channel. Fuck you. (Nice comment, by the way. I agree with it)

@monokhem Hammett is definitely a better lead guitarist than Mustaine. People can whine about the WahWah all they want. Hammett sounds better. He definitely has a better sense of phrasing and melody.

@monokhem I didn't know a guy who plays power chords and open string fills for the most part and struggles to compose away from E minor ( James ) is a better guitar player than Mustaine. Thanks for showing why I shouldn't take you seriously.

@@Fektthis During his peak, I would say Hammett was every bit as good a lead guitarist as Mustaine was, just two different approaches and roles, both of them technically limited to blues pentatonics. Mustaine has his fair share of emotional and melodic solos and Hammett has his fair share of raw aggression. However, Mustaine destroys pretty much anyone from his time on rhythm within metal and rock, in terms of both chops and inventiveness. Also, Hammett is not half the overall musician Mustaine is.

This was a year before Peace Sells was released.

fickle sticks Good point ; )

+Kathen Worley that was cliff talking at 1:07

J as in Jalapeño Ok im just gonna delete this comment ; )

Dave was way too much of a mess for cliff i think

The war WAS won by Megadeth. Sales don't measure talent

Cliff would have him kicked out again.

@@michaelsuder486 Sure, that's why Mustaine is still whining about it. Megadeth was never Metallica's rival. they just kept ineptly copying Metallica trying to duplicate their success and failing.

Cliff would suck in Megadeth Lol. He wouldn't be able to write anything and wouldn't be able to keep up with the guitars anyway.

greatest musician ever? you must only listen to metal....and even then, I wouldn't agree that he's the greatest ever

Bryce Huffman he said one of

Jason Brown I think he's great, but one of the greatest musicians ever may be a stretch

If by high I.Q. You mean he talks shit out of jealously. And he puts down other guitarist only to boost his own ego, then yes, he has a high I.Q.

High IQ, but stupid enough to get too high and too drunk to stay in a band. Ok

NewOscarGuy Lars would be peter criss dumbass

obviously you got no idea what he's referring to lol

No because Ace got to stay with the band during their glory days. Not kicked out like a bitch. LMFAO

sinan166 he's saying that lars is a shitty drummer just like Peter criss

@monokhem actually he's pretty much the anti Pete Best. The Pete Best of Metallica is easily Ron McGovney

You don't even know what happened clearly. And Metallica does give Dave his credit on Phantom Lord, Metal Militia, Jump In The Fire, The Four Horsemen, Ride The Lighting and The Call of Ktulu.

Isnt it funny dave got sober before james did

Tim Lynch dave never stayed sober

That's bull because Muistane did the same thing in his band.

Yeah until they sued their fans

Zane Plays guitar That's harsh, but I get it.

+Zane Russell (zanedoesntskate) well those people were pirating their music so they had it coming

smoke rain A little Empathy goes a long way imo. No one wants to work for free, or have their work exploited by someone else.

MyworstEnemy pantera did that alot

That’s because he was not their musical inspiration. Bob Rock was, and he previously produced Pop Metal bands. Says a lot about the band’s direction after Justice.

That's a messed up joke...

Why? They've _always_ stayed true to their dream. They make the music they wanted to make. People accuse them of "selling out" when they change their style in any way at all (really, people have constantly accused them of selling out from the VERY beginning, even when Cliff was alive), but in reality they have never sold out. Just wanted to continue their dream of trying something new. An _actual_ sellout band is Nickelback. They've straight up said that they dont care about their music, they just make it solely because it sells. That has NEVER been the case with Metallica. They care solely about the music and their fans. They're just 4 normal guys wearing casual clothes and playing music that they love. Nothing's really changed about them. The fact that they happened to gather a MASSIVE following isn't their fault lol

well you know nothing bro.

Metallica always did what they wanted with their music, ignoring what people said, they didn't sell out. In the 90s, when they released Load/Reload, grunge and nu metal was trendy, but they released experimental hard rock/alternative albums. If they really sold out why didn't they did that? Also, St. Anger isn't nu metal, if you are wondering. It's a thrashy album.

+Mark Johnston you mean the music he wrote for the band ?

They didn't steal anything. They put Dave's name in every song he wrote.

+Maclin Wiley offcourse they put his name in every song, it's copyright law.... that's why Megadeth can play many songs from "Kill Em All" so I don't know what kinda bullshit are these bitches talking about..... Megadeth fans are really annoying, stop this crap already, even Dave buried the hatchet with Metallica, but these idiots are still looking for reason to start a feud all over again.....

+philip clark no, you suck Metallica......

Megadeth fans feel the same about you Metallica fans, so why are you talking?

Absurd. Peace Sells... changed the game. #WakeUpDead. And Rattlehead is a much better song for thrashing out than Whiplash. Dave's riffs have always been of a higher order than Metallica's riffs.

Hahaaha you funny

Rob to me

Prove it

@@tristanhavrilak6048 listen to wake up dead and compare it with ride the lightning riffs, or mechanix to four horsemen.

Yeah!

Ask people 30 years ago and they would you were insane. Now he’s good but back then he was an insane drug addict, especially in 1988 when he made huge cash

Doronc82 No wonder their albums suck.

+11DNA11 - Metallica should have stopped making albums after Black Album. I wish there was not Load and all the other albums. They suck

@@szymusiek1980 You sound like someone that only listened to Until It Sleeps, Hero of the Day, Unforgiven 2 and The Memory Remains so your opinion doesn't really count.

Victor S - Instead of making two albums: Load and Reload, they should have made ONE album with the best songs from those 2 albums. But not too long, maximum 45 mins. Then it would be a great album. It means erasing half of the songs from Load and Reload, erasing all the fillers. And leaving the fine ones.

Doronc82 you try doing it then

Kill 'Em All and Ride the Lightning were both insanely good thrash albums......but there is still a common denominator there

your a dumarse

What a silly kiddo like statement

Ehh, Justice was a good album, and Load and Reload were alright rock albums

david beardy-kam wise words. true

Xavier Roberts ok. cliff taught them how to write songs and wrote most of their lyrics. Alot of ...and justice for all was written on the master of puppets tour. izzy stradlin wrote most of guns n roses music. slash is a great lead guitarist and he wrote some cool riffs, but izzy wrote the songs. sid vicious was overrated, you are correct there, and Meg while an important part of white stripes sound, jack white went in a different direction when he went solo, and I agree it was better, but without Meg he never would have become what he is. ...but you are very wrong about cliff. after he died, metallica went commercial, and while they made alot of money, they lost their core. it took 8 years for them to return.

And when they lied about how many songs on the album Dave wrote. Dave liked Cliff and was heartbroken when Cliff died and wrote In My Darkest Hour for him. If it had been the other way around, I'm not so sure Cliff would've acted the same.

thanks for the post...once loved both bands. I read Mustaines book and saw how fucking childish those Metalliwankers were towards him ! Now all Metalliwankers C.ds are in the bin (trash) !!

Dave was more childish when he got kicked out and this video proves so. There's reason why Metallica fans acted the way they did. More reasons why Metallica fans hate MegaDave. Dave is just a cry baby and had to write a book to vent.

Why care. Great music from both bands...just listen to the albums and don't care for the drama.

yesorlando05 same here . cliff a dick

No he wouldn't

If Cliff were alive the band wouldn’t have ran into the issues that made Jason leave in the first place. Your comment makes 0 sense

@@Craig-gq4gb cliff would’ve left before Jason to pursue a more country type music career. As a matter of fact Metallica would’ve broken up by 1992

@@profileone5655 that's a load of shit

not act , think

With Cliff alive, the song In My Darkest Hour would've never been written. The Megadeth vs Metallica feud could really be made into a Back To The Future prequel or sequel because so many questions begin with "What if.....?"

+Tammy Sigmon True story

@@tammysigmon853you talking about the timeline where they never kicked Dave out and cliff never died and they hired a third guitarist named Kirk... And then the world exploded from awesomeness overload.

To me the black album is no way near as explosive as the first four, I join you there.... But then, the Black Album tour was amazing, and live, the songs really kicked it at the time, so nothing seemed to be out of order. I listen to Load more often than I listen to the black album, it's like another band though, but the songs really come from the heart, and it's good music.

those later album were good if we take it not as a metal album. Those guys are good musician.. Forget about the early albums, and we will get a very good hard rock album..And The Tallica boys is still and will forever be very good at playing live.. i agree wth u dude..

and for those Lars haters, they have no idea what Lars had gone through for 35 years. Lars had lived stardom when their parents still collecting allowance money from their parents. And he can always say "i don't give a damn" to those haters...

I mean starting point, sure I'll agree with that, but it's still a fantastic album. It's a transitional album, and it's not as good as their first four, but it's still a great piece.

Black Album was a great album. It was definitely the last great Metallica album. It was different, but was still heavy. However, it did set them down a dark path towards Load and everything after that.

you bought super collider? unlucky dude.

I download Megadeth and burn CDs to give out to many people so they don't have to waste their money

John Walhan nice.

"i still buy megadeth" come to think of it that doesn't even make sense.

The Chratheostic Pwner of Megadeth Fanboys dude really...?...and where the fuck has slayer been...?.....megadeth still make great albums...metallica are washed up has-beens...so your opinions are pretty much useless...

i realised mustaine was a better writter than james right away,,, first megadeth album the song,,,LOOKING DOWN THE CROSS. Metallica,,,,,,,metallica will never write some deep, deep shit like that. GOOSEBUMPS thats what i got the first time i listen to that!!!

Omar Rodriguez fade to black

dave is a million times better songwriter, youre actually an idiot if you think that. dave has written more albums and more better albums too and wrote like 30% of metlalicas best music, and dont forget all the shit that held dave back like his drug overdose when he died and when the doctor told him hell never be able to play guitar again and then had neck surgery years later.. yeah, dave is better in every way shape and form

MTRredux As soon as he said "he can't play melodically" I realized he knew nothing about guitar lol. Then "his riffs are unmemorable" just cemented the truth. This guy has no idea about instruments XD Edit: Though I agree on one thing, Kill Em All isn't that good but it does have some great songs.

monokhem Whatever helps you sleep at night snob

i know im way too late but dave was a violent drunk. and to be kicked out from metallica, you have to be one fucked bastard. which we can see dave was. ive seen countless shows and heard countless recordings of dave being absolutley face fucked on drugs.

I'm also very late but Dave was 1000x more of a dick than all of the members of Metallica combined. He deserved everything negative he got. It's not even up for debate, dave was a sack of shit back then.

"no second chance?" Even though he said he quit but then came back

To be honest they only became sell outs after cliff dead and that show that cliff was the heart of the band

The secondary Goon squad Oh fuck off with that bullshit, so Cliff would say "no guys, lets not tour the world, lets just continue to tour around few countries and local bars, and stay small, and make same generic album everytime (cough Slayer cough)..." No, he wouldn't. Everyone matures, evolves, and real musicians change their style from time to time, if every single band listened to fanboys to stay the same, we wouldn't have alot of amazing songs! I agree, that doesn't always succed, but in Metallica's case, they are nailing it with every album imo

Buraz93 No they aren't "nailing it with every album". Not even close. They nailed it with 3 albums. That's their whole legacy. 3 good albums from a career spanning 4 decades now.

Sager and poo

Only Megadeth fans share your opinion. Everyone else however, doesn't.

"so much better" = "I like them better"

Said no one ever. Lmao the handful of Megadeth fans are the ONLY ones that say they're better than Metallica. Meanwhile the entire world loves Metallica. Hit me up when Megadick plays a show with 500,000 people in attendance.

and yet The Black Album outsold Dystopia this year

Seriously I Farted record sales aren't a good indicator.

And White Christmas outsold Black Album this year.

TK-421 they're really good

+Timothy Strange Other people 'need to get off the Cliff Burton band wagon' because you say so? How about people make up their own minds what to think? And 1990s Metallica probably did suck balls, but then again, in my opinion at least, Megadeth were putting out shit in that era too.

+Soylent Green how about if you dont like what i have to say fuck off!

Timothy Strange ...Or better yet, if you are incapable of saying that makes you look like a fully developed human, then you say nothing at all. This is a comments section shit for brains, go figure out what the fuck it is used for.

Avi Oberoi did only like their old stuff but if you're a fan you're a fan. Now if you like every little detail about the band then you're a super fan

RFmooonie as a metalhead I love them ( no homo ) but I see so many Metallica fans who haven't heard of any other metal band and what they listen to all these bands like pink Floyd guns n roses eagles scorpions and other rock bands. Its quite hard to spot a Metallica fan who listens to other metal bands too

And justice for all, master of puppets and ride the lightening albums are the reason. Black album just made them more popular.

They were already the most popular metal band before the black album.

Uh....That would be 3 reasons.

Hammett*

+jim paris Nah

+jim paris Nah

Jim bob yeah. hemmet sucks dave 1000 times better

jim paris Nah.

What's your logic there? Because Cliff died in a fatal bus crash and Dave didn't, that makes Dave superior? pffffft.

Your last sentence describes Hetfield perfectly.

@@johnp82 Mustaine's influence on thrash and all emerging extreme metal acts after the late 80s, supersedes that of Hetfield.

@@sainandanramakrishnan4812 Spoken like a true fanboy. Virtually every heavy metal band from the late 80's onward were heavily influenced by Metallica.

jlp613 and megadeth only and on to the scene in 1985 unlike Metallica.

Mustaine goes ALOT deeper than just "heavy blues pentatonics"; he uses alot of classical and some jazz /fusion, constantly in different modes (Dorian, Frigian, etc.) but Kirk? Hell ya spot on man