Catch some of these car fire videos from Europe..man they are hosing the car down within 60 seconds of pulling up to it...here it seems like it takes forever.
I saw a Polish fire vid. 15 seconds on arriving, water on car. Always impressed by them. Here doesn't seem to be any errancy, I also notice no one has a look to see if anyone in car.
Quite a rude thing to say for no reason I would think. I agree the hose deployment was slow, but with no victims and no exposures, there wasn’t anything that was getting harmed that wasn’t already harmed. Maybe show respect for the boys, again, I agree the deployment was extremely slow, but in the end, who and what did it harm That wasn’t already gone?
I fought several car fires and true there is no rush but from the public perspective you have to at least look like you're trying to save the car. I also would have personally used a power cone stream instead of a straight stream as it covers more ground, and I most definitely would not have wasted a fire extinguisher on this fire.
If you pay close attention when the crew get out of the truck the crew has to put their air packs on before they can begin to fight the fire. A lot of fire companies are doing that for safety for the crew as they are responding to the scene. They believe that it is safer for the crew to be belted rather than fiddling around getting their packs on.
@@kevinyoder309 I understand that, but it takes two seconds once the truck stops to make the final connection of the hip belt on the SCBA and when exiting the rig, adjust the shoulder straps one last time. They took way too long to do this, Then on camera they were back by the rig doing nothing but what appeared to be chatting, Very unprofessional in my opinion.
That was weird. They didn’t change the nozzle to wide angle for ages? Some folk have said it was for various reasons, but a lot of water went right through the car without touching it and water the trees in the roadside.
I dont like to bash firefighters but I do say alot could be learned from this video. Thats what firefighters do learn learn and keep learning. Back in my day I always checked the interior and while I was in there I would pull the hood cable. It worked 9 out of 10 times. It saved for an ass breaking job !! Be safe brothers !!!
I would say that the vehicle owners were in the vicinity, and more than likely called 911. You can also clearly see that the cops were there before the vehicle was fully engulfed. They would've checked.
Just a note here-- Most police departments that I am aware of do not allow their officers to fight a fire UNLESS there is am immediate danger to life and this does not look like that is the case here. Their job was to prevent others from getting hurt until the real firefighters can get there.
@@jayasmrmore3687 yes they are they do carry fire extinguishers and that's all the fire stuff they have and they are useless with this one the fire is in the gas tank unfortunately their fire extinguishers wouldn't do any good nothing they could have done with the fire except for keeping the public safe fire extinguishers is all they have unlike a fire truck has all the firefighting stuff needed.
@@tylorevans The fire was not IN the fuel tank. A fire will not sustain inside an enclosed gas tank. If the tank was open or punctured, there would be a fire at the point of the puncture only. Liquid gasoline doesn't burn. Only gasoline vapor with an oxygen source will ignite. There may have been a leak near the fuel pump fittings which are on the top of the gas tank.
It’s just fire department jealousy. They don’t want others to get credit doing their work before they arrive the scene. No one else is gonna criticise a cop extinguishing a fire.
To all of the people complaining "why didn't the cop do something": The vehicle was already heavily smoking and it seemed to be on fire on the inside components as well, from all the smoke coming from the engine area. Breathing in that smoke is highly toxic. Not to mention that the car is likely filled with other combustible items and fuel, so putting it out would likely require you to touch the car or open the hood (generally it's not the best idea to touch burning parts). You can spray the fire on the outside but if the fire is still burning and hot on the inside components it's not going to do a thing. The car was in the middle of the road with nothing around of value, and it was empty. A fire extinguisher should be used first and foremost as a lifesaving tool to suppress the fire enough to escape, and maybe to protect your property if it is safe to put out the fire. The car was clearly already a total loss and was not a danger to anyone in or around it. Call the firefighters and let the professionals extinguish it.
I love how firefighters always take their sweet time. "Is it time for tea and crumpets? Oh wait, we have a fire to put out. Oops". I could have knocked this out quicker with a garden hose.
Elrod Jenkins why in the hell should they rush??? Wtf do you think that extra 2 minutes would’ve saved damage and the owner just could’ve taken it to a Autobody shop for new paint??? The car was a TOTAL LOSS before the fire engine shifted into PARK 😂💦💦
Either the cop that first arrived first on scene, or the SUV had fire extinguishers as part of their emergency gear. Why in God's name didn't one of them do something??
It's tough to armchair quarterback these things since we weren't there, and I've sadly even seen similar lack of "movement with a purpose" on some of my own department's responses in the past, so I won't single these guys out for anything. It does boil down to the need for more training though - donning BAs quickly and efficiently (should be able to get from just turnouts to on air in full PPE in less than 60 seconds, less if you start donning prior to arrival), pull that preconnect right away, and much more aggressive hit on the fire. They spent a lot of time watering the pavement - not something we typically want with class B fuels since the more liquid on the ground, the more the fuel (and fire) can run. And I agree that a slightly wider nozzle pattern would probably have been more effective - hit the primary hot spots (interior rear, engine compartment, etc.) before going after what's on the pavement, unless the fire on the pavement is a more immediate threat to exposures. If you hit the less intense points first, the heat from the primary seats of the fire can re-ignite what you just put out. I might also have waited until a charged line was prepped and manned before ventilating, to avoid feeding more air to the fire too early. Just like a structure - coordinate ventilation and suppression. Brandon's comment about approaching from an angle is good too - compressed gas/hydraulic cylinders in bumpers, hoods/trunks, etc. are no fun when they go. And finally, I don't know that engine's capabilities, but some Class B or A/B foam would have worked wonders. I'm always amazed how many departments don't seem to use foam - we apply foam early on most fires, and it's fantastically effective and preventing re-ignition and minimizing water usage. I'm not being negatively critical - you do a "lessons learned" debriefing after most any call, and these are just some lessons I hope they learned and are able to apply going forward. End of the day, they got the job done.
For all the arm chair commentary firefighters here….I’m a retired firefighter 48 years service, so your comments are off center.. the apparatus parked correctly for a vehicle fire. The vehicle was already destroyed by the time they arrived. There’s no exposure for it to spread to, so there’s no threat and no hurry to extinguish the fire. Fire attack was done correctly by first using the water to push any burning fuels away from them as the approach was made. Water pattern from the nozzle is the firefighters choice. What this firefighter did was correct in attack and overhaul. The whole procedure was done safely and properly, without rushing around. This is how it’s done.. there was no life or exposure threat so no sense in someone getting in a hurry. Good job Clifton!
48 years- thank you for your service. Why should there ever be a hurry to put it out? Maybe lots of traffic is backed up? Maybe the car gas tank explodes? This was very poor! Watch how FDNY does it!
Fuel line as ruptured that's why it went straight to fuel tank. Its the gasses that ignite the fuel and its not often fuel tanks explode in real life in movies its very different
in all the car fire videos i've seen, I've never seen one where the fire started under the car like that. Maybe a fuel line ruptured and hit some hot exhaust or something?
Lol at everyone complaining about them taking too long. Firefighters know that you always walk, don't run on the fireground. Nobody is inside, and the car is already a total loss before they even arrived. All they are there for is to put it out so the wrecker can haul it to the scrapyard. People are actually complaining that they aren't running around risking their lives for a $2000 car that's already well beyond totaled
My guess is, that most of the time when a vehicle is this far engulfed. The fire dept knows it's going to be a total loss to the insurance company's. Probably why they don't worry about getting it put out, in the open area.
The firefighters wait until the fire really burns. So that it pays off that you came :-) Here in Austria, the first fireman jumps off the emergency vehicle and starts extinguishing after 30 seconds. 🙂
What on earth do they intend on using the cutting saw for? It's a vehicle fire, window access, or access to other areas with a Halligan bar is all that is required. The USA seriously needs to standardize and Nationalize the training with all the thousands of stand alone FD that have insufficient training.
I would say a meticulous job. At this point rushing and making a mistake over a car that was totaled before the firemen got there would not be prudent.
Couple years ago I was driving down the boulevard and the car in front of me appeared to be on fire. I got the driver to pull over. I grabbed my extinguisher out of my trunk. Opened his hood and knocked it out. This idiot 20 something had stuffed a couple oily rags on top of the engine. And they fell down on the exhaust manifold. Car had a couple burned spark plug wires, and that appeared to be the extent of it. He said the valve covers leaked, and he would wipe up the oil with the rags. Something tells me this guy is going to make more bad decisions.....
I can’t stand to hear these jokers on the east coast pulling a prime on their pumps at the scene man!! That’s something you do at truck check FIRST THING ON SHIFT!!! And I also don’t get why they feel the need to go around breaking windows everywhere either! Dude walks up to the van and starts breaking glass before anyone was there to start spraying. Like they say...”100 years of tradition unimpeded by progress.” These guys’ll just never let go of some of these erroneous tactics. smh
I am no firefighter but that one guy who busted the window ...was he in a good spot to bust that back one? Like in front of the tire? Also the fire seemed to follow him lol.
The difference of Police and a Fireman. The Police can ignore a very small small fire and just call and wait for fire truck. Whereas Basic Firefighting shoul be part of their curriculum in Police Academy - do they have No portable Fire Extibguisher in their mobile patrol car? Their Motto is To SERVE AND PROTECT. Which is better: Save Lives and Property while On Duty Serving the Community.
Must suck to only have 15 foot long crosslays.... I'm assuming that's why the initial attack team NEVER moved from that location. Two lines to knock down a van fire......🤷♂️🤨
On yt us fireworkers seems so slowly. 8 min to take out simple fire? Lol. Im Italy maybe we dont use protections but a car on fire is extingued in two minutes.
Take a notice of european fire fighters and US firefighter. The european firefighters would have had foam on it to start with and the people fighting the fire would have been ready to go when they got there.
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Compare the speed of this approach. Two High pressure hose reels deployed in about 24 seconds after arrival. One appliance, others arrived as backup. Fire out in about 110 seconds.
If they didn't have a foam tank , then they should of used the set up at the nozzle for as long as took them to set up. Piss poor in time and these guys are paid firefighters.
Pull the inch-and-a-half pre connect-fully Scotted (airpack) up, charge it with a 30-degree fog pattern in an indirect/direct attack. If you have AFFF in the tank, use it, but I didn't see any need to. At least that's how we did it back in my old home town.
@@Kylehikes47 Hey, if we got it and if we're short in manpower ( Aaaand a couple of other factors ), we open the valve and use it. Before I "retired" from the Fremont Rural Volunteers, we'd gotten a truck built by Smeal Fire Equipment out of Snyder, NE. We had them install a 150-200 gallon AFFF tank as well a 1,000 gallon ( I think) booster tank. Worked real damn good for our needs!
