Cause you see what's loved by the elites that's why you cant see this on mainstream TV now and no one wants to change cause they can easily find another to do the job
@LUKE BISHOP Mr. Bishop. What you just said is a dumb ass response and it blows smoke up my ass. Young black men dominate America's prison systems. Why? No fathers, and black on black crime, just like the young man in that scene from Roc. That's why I said what I said. Our young black men don't have to die before their time. They don't have to go to jail. It seems to me you need to wake up to reality.
Allow me to say this, "This episode of Roc, with the storyline behind it, help save and change my life. The ethics, morals, and values I adopted in this show made me see the direction I was going and turn it around. Props to the script writers and actors. The lesson I learned will not just stay with me." Stop the drugs. Stop the violence. Love one another so another can love you. Amen
To me this is the strongest and deepest scene from the show "ROC"! When Andre Thompson (Clifton Powell) first met Roc they got into a confrontation over Andre bringing drugs into the community. Roc never liked Andre for that but he always stood up to him when others didn't and talked to him a time before this about Andres choices! Andre was shot in one episode and Roc was blamed for it until another character confessed to it! This scene right here shows that Andre was listening to what Roc had to say all along! He had a conscience to do what's right and Roc told him that guys like him have to tell Young kids like Damon the real truth about their choices and prison life! He made the right choice! I wish this show had more seasons after this final episode to show more of Roc and Andre probably working together to help the community more! Great show that ended too soon!
There was an episode right before this where Roc and Andre are talking about Andre's ways and I think this plays on that. That maybe he needs to change and help the neighborhood, that is trying to turn itself around. I'm sure Roc thanked Andre for this and Andre kept getting better and helping the community.
Then it would have showed what direction Damon was trying to go. Andre really wondered if Damon has learned his lesson and wrote Terrence's mother and the judge.
You nailed it Dmanpoke. And 'very well stated' I might add. Yeah Roc's family was really afraid for him for standing up to Andre. Roc was focused on running Andre and his crew out of the neighborhood. The family was afraid that Andre and company might retaliate. If I'm not mistaken, I believe it was Heavy D's character who actually shot Andre.
Dmanpoke 88 I've seen clips on RU-vid and I want this show on a streaming site, or even a reboot/remake. One day at a time got one for Netflix and it has vibes with this show. Plus, they made the characters poc
This is such a powerful scene! They should play this scene in schools to the children, since this applies to their lives even now! I'm amazed at how this kid talks about 10 years, like he's going off to camp for a decade! 😳
Saw this episode yesterday on Pluto. I immediately thought to myself "Damn they don't make shows like this anymore" and it's definitely needed for our youth man..
It was like Good Times of the 90's. Fox shouldn't have cancelled it but that minstrel show Martin. And where was that scumbag Bill Cosby then promoting this?
This was a very powerful scene with Clifton Powell and Jamal Duckett. It takes a real gangster to tell young badasses who idolize the likes of himself that they really don't have the heart to be what they aspire to be, a gangster. A real criminal would tell a youngster don't ever be like him because it isn't worth it, you still have a future, he doesn't.
respect to clifton powell and the generation now needs this type of discipline instead of this fake street culture that people promote in videos ,with gangs,drugs, and fake street music .
I’m proud that Andre is changing his ways if Charles Dutton as roc was in scene he woulda been proud of Andre and that guy with the braids was wrong for killing that boy over a jacket which is stupid Andre was being real with him by showing him tough love.
sha11235 I know right roc would been proud of Andre talking to the guy and showing him tough love because he shot alexis fields friend over a jacket and dude like Andre dude would not like 10 years in prison them inmates are crazy and raping other men make sissy out of them
By the way, in the earlier episode where we see Damon, he didn't have his hair styled like what we see here. And the kid's name was Terrence Lambert. Damon shot and killed Terrence because Terrence pulled a gun on him to protect himself from Damon taking his jacket.
sha11235 yeah I know and I remember Sheila and roc told him don’t ever pull a gun on no one to protect yourself and Damon shoulda never kill Terrance over a jacket and his mom she kick his ass for what he did too her son
Andre is trying to explain to Damon that aAndre went down the wrong path and ended up being a thug who never saw the fun things in his youth hood because he was locked down in the penitentiary so he really had to prove to Damon he is trying to change his life and put the bad ways behind him
Andre also does this because earlier Roc had asked him to do it. At first Andre refuses but Roc tells him it is his business. Also, this is a payoff from an even earlier conversation between Roc and Andre where Roc is telling Andre that he should turn his life around because this neighborhood is trying to get rid of the criminal element. So Andre decided to do this also for himself, in an effort to better himself. If the show had continued, I'm sure Roc would've thanked him and Andre would be continuing to step toward redemption.
When it aired on the BOUNCE network, I DVR'd all the Roc episodes featuring Clifton Powell as Andre. This scene to me is the best done by Clifton Powell, not just as Andre, but period.
Loved this show. And for awhile after it ended, maybe about a year or so, I would walk around and if I saw something that was trash but looked like a perk, I'd think of Roc wanting it.
That kid was actually excited and thought it would be an accomplishment to serve 10 years in prison and it's pathetic that he tried to impress André with that also.
This scene is real deep. Younger generations needs to see this part. It is telling how the real world is about in the prison world. This is one of parts that Clinton Powell has ever done. I wish that he narrate shows like Scared & Beyond Scared Straight.
We Need Guys/O.G.’s Like This around Today!!! Especially with All the craziness in the world Now, with Social Media and All this crap to teach this lost Youth the Real Deal!!! ❤️💯🙏🏽👊🏽👍🏽
At the end of that scene, it was as if it really hit Andre how much damage he caused because of the choices he made. If Andre never sold drugs, Damian wouldn't have killed that kid.
It was cancelled because the dopes at Fox didn't like the fact that they were showing black people this way. They had no problem with the minstrel show Martin.
Best damn show on TV because he kept it real. Something that made you think. But so-called other people I won't say no races but they scared to show True black TV like this what really goes on
Thank you; I was just saying that as soon as Joey started taking responsibility in his life and the writing became more focused on the uplifting of the characters--personally and professionally--Fox said, "Oh, now now, we can't have this."
Fox was stupid to cancel this. They kept Martin on the air, which was basically a minstrel show in my opinion. This show tried to be real as well as funny. Charles S. Dutton tried to make sure of this, which was why he moved up in ranks during the seasons.
There's a channel on here from a guy named Michael Sykes who uploaded quite a few episodes. Also I found a site that's selling all of the episodes. Let me get it then come back.
Great serious lecture by Andre to Damon for idolizing him and killing Terrence in a drive-by shooting. It was also funny, because I never saw a villain talk sense to a person before.
Andre did it not only to help Damon, but to help himself. He saw the neighborhood was changing and trying to get better and realized talking to Roc earlier on that he could change his ways by showing the troubled youths not to end up like him.
Yes, I remember the episodes and how it led to this scene. I have a feeling, since Charles S. Dutton (Roc) was executive producer, some of this came from his own jail time.
Would have been surreal if Mad Dog, the boy who shot JJ from Good Times, had shown up and talked to Damon. "Yeah. I thought I was it. I even thumbed my nose at that judge when he wasn't able to do anything to me, except put me on probation. But when I got out into the hall, my mother basically disowned me. I laughed and said that I was gonna help my siblings "get over" like me, which really set her off. I even made a remark about my father which earned me a slap. She ran off crying and I still yelled at her. The only peace that I got was when I realized that the parents of that boy that I shot were standing there. I told him to go ahead and hit me, but he didn't. They didn't have to, but I know that they forgave me. But God only knows what would have happened to me if that boy or someone else had died."
It had comedy mainly during the first two seasons but the more the show moved toward being unscripted---going live, they sought to implement more reality into the show being that it was set in the heart of Black Baltimore where crime, politics, economics and activism was full bloom.
Clifton Powell is like the authentic street version of Denzel Washington but is criminally underrated as a true professional actor. This man needs his credit like 30 years ago. He's given us so much and he's more than deserving of his Oscar awards for his epic performances, it's just facts. Plus we've seen actors & actresses receive awards they didn't even deserve for far less. It's to many pretenders out here taking credit for things that they didn't earn. Clifton Powell is as real as it gets and his screen presence always commands your attention. I just wanna see a brother get what he has earned that's all.👍😁😎👌
This is one of most powerful scenes I have ever seen from any TV SHOW. LOVED THE SHOW ROC. Clifton Powell is a very good actor and this was one of his best scenes I ever seen of him
18yrs ago........ Had to grow up quick......real killers.. People were rape...burn....cold .... Rip James Ferguson....Rip Greg Page ..butterballl....key key..... Dinx .. . .
I grew up watching this show and shows like Good Times, Different Strokes and Different World that taught from right and wrong. Music like Chuck D, Queen Latifah, A Tribe Call d Quest etc. In the late 90’s music executives and TV removed anything to promoting positive influence in the black communities. Why private prisons need free labor.
I felt Clifton’s whole tone when he said “you little sissy punk” and this is a lesson this generation needs to get them to understand the lifelong consequences of their actions, like bragging about or talking reckless on social media to somebody that they don’t care will get at them eventually, either the streets or the police, this is a great lesson to teach these hardheads with soft behinds that they’re not capable or fit to handle an insurmountable situation
MICHAEL L FOLKS THANK YOU FOR THIS ONE! WOW ITS BEEN SOO LONG SINCE I SEEN THIS SHOW IT WAS AND STILL IS ONE IF THOSE ONE'S THAT FOLKS NEEDED THEN AND MOST IMPORTANTLY NOW!!! THANKS MICHAEL L GOOD JOB 👍
What a scene. I loved that Andre came to see him, and then threw him out of the room at the end, just to make sure there was a period at the end of that point he made.
When he told him what he needed that was some real shit... No cap.... “when you find it in your heart....” is powerful the true spirit of change can’t come from BS you need to live it and breath it.
What was most jarring about this episode is that in previous seasons, Andre Thompson was a Nino Brown type---a heartless, ruthless, antagonistic IDGAF about the community because it's all about me and mines. But after a "Who shot Andre?" finale in season two, we surprisingly saw him return well into season three on a walking cane, perhaps a bit more contrite but still ruthless. Referring to Roc in his snide manner with his "trashman" remark. And so earlier in this particular episode, Roc had a sit down with Andre and told him how maybe he could reserve himself a cool spot in hell if he reached out and spoke to this teen who earlier that season shot and killed another youth over a petty beef and his Starter jacket I believe. This was the result. Powerful still to this day!
Yes, that was in the next to last episode. This episode had Roc going to Andre first to tell him to do this and at first he refuses, but maybe Andre remembered the earlier conversation and decided to do it after all. I'm sure Roc was thankful. Too bad we didn't see it.
Andre was similar to nino brown in New Jack City. And yeah Roc warned andre if andre contuinued with his drug dealing career it will lead andre to death and to eternity in the abyss.
The powers that be keep getting in the way when we want to address it. They do it so that stupid narrative can be pushed in our faces. See what people don't want to understand or conceptualize is that we know what the game is. But as soon as we brainstorm and conclude they shut it down to continue the chaos for total annihilation. SMH
In the beginning, Clifton Powell's character (Andre) was the most hated character on the show. But this scene/moment was when his character took a 180 degree turn and was beloved.
Boy that Andre character was truly giving that young guy the truth of the reality of life incarcerated. I don’t remember this episode of Roc. But thanks for the clip!!! I wish it was a way to get all the seasons on DVD or maybe upload them on Netflix or Hulu.
@@GodsMadeMan "I like ya. And I want ya. Now we can do this the easy way. Or we can do this the hard way. The choice is yours." Definitely something no man wants to hear.🥶
He explained the reality of what it would be like for him when he got in, then tried to show him what his own life is like and how bad it is now because of the choices he made. Then he helps Damon out with that advice.
