Its funny that ppl think mualani is single target locked just cuz of the dmg reduction passive, but kinich feels way more single target locked than her
Well, most people also say shes bad after all the nerfs, but if uu look at the numbers she still has really high multipliers. It was just that her stats were way to strong in the first beta test.
Most of Kinich's dmg is single target, but considering how burgeon triggers his passive, you can run burnvape/burgeon comps to make up for the dmg in AoE.
@user-ot4ly9dp1c but his E makes up the majority of his multipliers and his E can hit 2 enemies ungrounded and 3 grouped with his burst consistently hitting 2 to 3 so I don't think either are single target locked.
Mualani be great for the new players who need a DPS, but she definitely ain’t defeating Neuvillette in popularity. I mean the whole China basically threatened Hoyo for attack their dragon 😂😂😂😂
yes Mihoyo will never ever dear nerf him, after what happened with the Chinese community, Neuvillette is a "future-proof character" now 😂 + After I saw that whale With C6 Neuvillette solo Arlechino boss like she was a miserable Hilichurls, doing +85k/hit, leaving us speechless, I, me, the humble poor F2P, decided to C6 mine too....wish me luck guys😭...🇦🇳🇩 🇮🇫 🇺 🇼🇦🇳🇹 🇹🇴 🇭🇪🇱🇵 🇲🇪 🇮 🇼🇮🇱🇱 🇦🇵🇵🇷🇪🇨🇮🇦🇹🇪 🙏
I love Mua she's kinda my crush character but mannnnn I like confort, so idk 😭💔 I already spent so many primos for her just to withdraw and get kazuha in the end because I've wanted him for a long time (mind you, I'm f2p) what do y'all say, should I try for mua again ? I have so many copies of xinyan too I can't take it x)
@@feederico1011 The nerf is miniscule when you think about how the majority of characters don't even have great exploration capabilities in the first place. I actually think all Natlan characters will have great overworld exploration, which will be amazing for their value outside endgame. Personally, I'm really liking Kinich's potential in exploration. You can use his skill in midair, making one of the few characters with midair traversal besides, Xiao, Kazuha, and Wanderer. I can't wait to see it in gameplay.
Did not realize that Dehya was good for Mulani and picked Tighnari from five-star selectors. Now I am sad. Guess it is Thoma or Xianling for me until archon. Because I refuse to level rock girl, forgot her name.
Ngl i think muvuika wont buff her as much as people expect She is most likely an atk buffer , since pyro is known for atk scaling The only buff i can see her giving mualani is no enetgy issues with xiangling and the new natlan set used on her
@@FliponYT No please. I don’t want that… We already have Sup DPS characters that don’t give a buff at all, like Chiori, and Emily. We just need a buffer for them. I mean the Scroll Set; just actually buff the Natlan characters; so they should not make her just dependent on the set on buffing characters; rather making her actually give a buff; even if it’s little…
@@karantej6702but she doesn't have everything else. The point is that his quality of life is so good that even if you do twice his damage, he'll still be a "better" DPS. So the only way to beat him would to literally be him with more damage.
@@Dan713 that's how mualani is made though, but she's a complete opposite when it comes to gameplay; both have consistent damage and both can sustain themselves in different style. She has consistent damage for waves and bosses just like neuvillete, since she has aoe that can nuke multiple enemies, which is a instant kill, while not being an only ONE TIME NUKE(because she can perform surging bite atleast 4 times in her onfield and her e skill cd is short) unlike lyney that has 15 secs cd from e skill and eula that is burst reliant when nuking. Both of them are also tanky because they are hp scaling, but they tank attacks in a different way. Neuvillete can self heal, while mualani tanks interruption with her high interruption resistance that can resist 8 spin of ruin guards. So basically you have two great hydro dps, powercreep kinda lost its meaning when comparing the two of them, coz it's like a rock, paper, scissor dillema. Neuvillete can't be better to mualani and she can't also be better to him, since they're very opposite when it comes to style, but both are consistent units, so only gameplay preference will decide.
Neuvillete has simply better Multipliers. He has an Insane Signature weapon (which I have). The most broken C1 in the game. I think Mualani competes by being a Vape Dps. Using Vapourise to amplify her damage. Imagine If Neuvillete gets access to Vapourise (he realistically can't cause too much hydro) then he's gonna break the damage ceiling.
Flip, i have a request. Make a vid about how Raiden has fallen off the meta. Its actually baffling to see how many people still try to justify her as a top 4 electro unit.
I think shes still top four electro tho, the other electro units we recently got arent that good, like clorinde is better purely for damage but raiden can be played in much more teams. Cyno aint doing anything. So the ones above her might be clorinde ( in certain situations) fischl and maybe kuki for hyperbloom, but that can do that as well. Im not saying shes one of the best dps if we look at all elements but for electro shes still up there
@@NikocadosPopeyesChickenSandwic Tao xiao wanderer navia clorinde etc. c0 Raiden is meh. And now with them Fontaine constellations she’s not the only one with crazy vertical.
@@wilburforce8046 yeah still didn’t answer my damn question because A raidens best strength is her versatility and battery potential with her dps teams not being far off raikou furina teams etc. so I don’t know how she wouldn’t be top 3 when electro has like 2 characters 3 if you count yae like off the top of my head Sara beidou Kuki dori ? None of them are better than raiden the only one who’s good is Kuki and that is only in hyperbloom so idk what to tell ya
I heard a lot of people being really upset about a stronger dps than Neuvillette but tbh I think this is a really good design. From what I can tell she's a lot like Lyney in that if you perform at a really high skill level they're one of if not the best dps characters in the game, but because it's so hard to pull off consistently the comfier options of Neuvillette and Arlecchino end up being more used. It's really healthy design for the game I think.
Yeah a better lyney. -can nuke multiple times in her onfield time -not cc prone(high mobility and interruption resistance) - not one time nuke, because of her short cd -better aoe and not only a specific area, but rather based on specific enemies(marked ones) Both also has great ascension stats which means which means they will have a lot access on crit rate necessary for nuke characters
@@animalcrossingnewhorizonsi1061 What? You're literally suddenly ignoring your previous point 💀 "she quite literally 0 interruption resistance" She does have interruption resistance built into her kit, just like Kinich.
tbh i wouldnt say he has his maximun potential premiun teeam yet cause as you said, zhong is kinda just there, if we ever get a buffer or sub dps with a single gram of eextra utility over zhong neuvi would improve(praying to got those xilomen "leaks" are real and she is a universal sup)
Tbh zhongli has res shred and nuev has better team mates then mualani now and hes kinda there with his best team, plus i wouldnt be suprised if xilonen was a broken support but she kinda buffs other nations characters and mega buffs natlan characters cuz it seems like natlan characters want to be played with other natlan characters
@@nicodemostrabalho6991 Petra Zhongli with Fav Weapon. Giving 35% Elemental DMG Bonus + 20% Res Shred + Energy Generation (white particles) and last which may or may not necessary, Strongest Shield in the game. What else do you want from a Support. He even can Heal a little of you have his C6.
I need Mualani to end that fraud. You don't understand how badly I want to see Mualani/Mavuika teams to beat Neuvillette/Furina teams, imagine some random shark girl + pyro lector lookin ahh archon beating out the literal Hydro Dragon in terms of damage. I don't even want her, I just want to see the world burn.
@@user-sm5vo7ob9xbruh already kachina is another kazuha for him. He is already getting that buff and he wont be going anywhere just because some random dps does more number cuz that's not the point.
Bro mualani cannot compete with neuvilllette and it’s not even close and here are my reasons Though neuvillette deals a lot of damage, he is not the dps with the highest dpr in the game, that Honour goes to either arlechinno or lyney, even hutao teams and alhaitham hyperbloom have higher dpr than neuvillette, so its not like mualani is coming to change anything, there are already dpses that outdamage neuvillette in their respective teams BUT What neuvillette has that no other dps has are Tankiness Self sustain best in the game Comfortability Range Very good damage Versatility Ease of use All this alone makes him a level in the sky above other dpses, for tankiness, neuvillette can easily reach 40k hp, he won’t be such an easy target to be one shotted by the enemies except you are disabled and have no hands unlike arlechinno, lyney or alhaitham who can be one shotted by maguu kenki if not protected by a shield or something , He has the best self sustain in the game, he needs no healer to function properly at any constellation level mixed with his tankiness he is practically unkillable unlike lyney, hutao or arlechinno who have teams that require a defensive unit to perform which limits their damage cus their best teams don’t have defensive utilities but they all need it so as to not get one shotted. Comfortability, neuvillette is so comfortable, drop balls, suck balls, pump water that is all, hutao at c0 either needs charged attack cancels, jump cancels or xianyun for plunge to execute her playstyle properly, lyney needs you to be a high skill cap player, tho arlechinno and alhaitham are easier to use, if the enemy dodges your arlechinno’s skill like the robot snake that just enters the ground, that is a full 30 secs downtime, alhaitham must not come off field if not he loses his infusion same applies to hutao Range…………..there is no argument about that, he is even better and more comfortable than the ranged dps in the game like wanderer, yoimiya, clorinde and deals more damage than the aforementioned ranged dps Yes his damage is still very high only beaten out by hutao, arlechinno, lyney and alhaitham when played optimally at c0 but adding constellations, then the only characters that beat him as regards damage in game are lyney and arlechinno with constellations, hutao and alhaitham don’t come close He is hydro he can be used in any team that requires a hydro dps, burn vape, vape, mono, freeze, international, electro charged, hyperbloom, name it, hutao needs to vape if not her damage is terrible, lyney needs to have at least two pyro characters if not his damage is sub par, alhaitham desperately needs hyperbloom to be top tier, his spread teams are mediocre at c0, well arlechinno is versatile but not as versatile cus she is pyro if you get what i mean In conclusion, I have seen a lot of mualani leaks and i would say she is literally lyney, if you play her well, she is the top dps in the game, if you don’t play her well and miss a shark bite, then you are no different from ayato, and she lacks range, she must surf over the enemies, this type of character cannot powercreep neuvillette let her deal 9m damage per rotation, neuvillette has showed us that damage is not everything to be a top tier dps, she is very clunky and requires skill to play Before a carry can powercreep neuvillette, they have to have neuvillette’s attribute and also be able to deal a lot of damage offield, we already have such a carry, yae miko, who can deal damage off field when she is the aggravate carry, but her damage is just meh, it’s not even Emilie’s level of sub dps damage. So it’s not a comparison, mualani is not that carry to powercreep neuvillette, before you think I am biased, I didn’t pull for neuvillette cus his playstyle is kinda boring, he is too easy to use, I have always loved challenging characters that require some kind of skill to execute and I have all the dps I compared him to in my account except him
@@adeniyimarvellous8259 nor he'll be better than mualani in her release. Both of them can deal consistent damage while having sustainability for themselves, basically they do the same, but different because of their gameplay. Comparing them is not just like water and fire where water only wins, they're more like rock, paper, and scissor. You only said his strengths, but not his weaknesses, which where mualani really excel. Him being prone to CC tends to a damage loss, even if you said that he is long range many enemies in the abyss have high mobility and can dash and jump at him in a span of sec cancelling his CA, while mualani take advantage on that weakness where she gain free stack by them jumping or dashing right infront of her, since only taking contact is the requirement for her to gain stacks and she'll definitely not gonna get cc'd because of high interruption resistance that can resist 8 ruin guard spin which is very comfortable. For their aoe we cannot deny that his aoe is really great since it has long range that you can just adjust, but as usual it has weaknesses, which mualani can counter and that is when the enemies are behind you or when the enemy is at the area where his CA is hard to adjust. Her aoe missiles after surging bite auto nukes the marked enemies even if they moved far to mualani which is an instant kill and since her passive gets buff roaming around to take contact with multiple enemies still enough to perform her average number(3) of shark bites. Since both of them scales at hp they're both tanky(though mualani will have higher hp since his based hp is equal to nilou) and can sustain themselves in each of their different ways. Where neuvillete tanks attacks by self healing, while mualani tanks attack by her interruption resistance. Neuvillete can just self heal if he gets damage cc of enemies skill, while mualani can just kill them instantly since her dps window will rarely be interrupted, so who'll damage you if enemies are already dead right. Both of them are also versatile, they can fit at enemy teams, since their own damage is enough to kill enemies, but let's not lie both of them also has preference when in comes from team comps. Neuvillete prefer teams with interruption resistance or freeze comps so that his CA won't get cancel by the enemies, while Mualani prefer team comps that buff her for more damage, which is just a cherry on top. Maybe he'll be better in some cases than her, but she'll also be better than some cases than him. The important thing is that they both have consistent damage output and can sustain themselves consistently, only gameplay preference will decide at this point.
I never had doubts about mualani being great, but it’s still a skip for me bc I’m tired of cracked 5 star hydro units and so many other elements/teams staying mediocre.
So can mualani clear like a whole minute faster than neuvi at a similar investment? If not, then I'd rather stick to a more comfortable unit than a stronger dps where AoE and comfort is compromised
I both hate and love my gambling addiction. I couldn't stop myself from pulling on Emilie's banner but got Keqing's C1 (which I don't regret), but now I can't pull for Mualani. 😅 How replacable is she by Barbara?
In single target she maybe beats him, in aoe he’s still far better. You just can’t beat consistent aoe damage hitting every enemy, undiluted, going through shields, all from one spot so he doesn’t even have to move. If her aoe is good his aoe is godly. I don’t see Mavuika even closing that gap as those are issues tied to her gameplay itself but she will likely help her a lot. Even so I’m still pulling the girl. Big nukes are fun to do and she’s probably the best horizontal exploration character in Natlan. Kinich for the verticality.
I have my hydro dps, not interested in any other. So for me she is a full on skip… Saving for other Natlan Characters that are far more interesting to me.
In my opinion to beat Neuvilette it is not enough to just be better than him in damage (because there are already characters who do it) to beat Neuvilette you have to be a character that offers you the same as him but better
Neuvillettes major advantage over all other DPS is his attacks go THROUGH enemies, thus dealing more damage than just the initial target, which is all that comparisons count.
@FliponYT Neuvillette needs no grouping, nor the time it takes to do so. And fwiw, even Kazua can only group small to medium enemies. Neuvillette doesn't care how big they are, and doesn't need grouping. He just spins and murders.
Bro neuvi is so much better than her it's insane atleast she could have higher damage than but nope daddy homoverse had to even Nerf that and so many people are defending the nerds like bruh ,atleast let her have something like no neuvi owner is gonna pull for a worst neuvi
C0 Neuvillette is not soloing the abyss easily unless your other half is carrying quite hard, it was only really possible on his release because of how broken his debut abyss blessing was so this is just not something I considered worth talking about
@@FliponYTcorrect me if I’m wrong but isn’t Mulanai glued to Emile or nahida for her forward vape teams like I haven’t heard a single replacement, I do think it’s nice she can synergize with garbage units but if she’s forced to have Emile or nahida wouldn’t that be a bit contradictory, granted this coming from the prospective who wants to play her best team archetypes
@@LauraJinkins-pi8sv No. There are forward vape setups that do not require dendro. A good rule of thumb is that you're either bringing Xiangling or dendro. You can bring both but not neither. If you have dendro then it enables stuff like Xinyan as an option which has a lot of advantages, but it's not persay needed. You just need good pyro application if you don't have dendro at all. A team like Mualani/Xiangling/Kazuha/fill should be able to vape completely reliably. It's not bad, but there's some issues with Xiangling and her 80 energy cost burst that generally make something like Mualani/Emilie/Xinyan/fill more optimal.
@@Lankpants I’m assuming you use kazuha for the pyro swirl, but wouldn’t that also be bad since it locks her teams even more to make up for the lack of dendro units like would xinyan dehya thoma still be good ? Her teams seem very lacking when your trying to maximize her dmg imo I’d love to hear yours though bc I’m not too sure abt Mualani
You might be able to get away with something like Kazu/Xinyan, I don't think you would though. Basically you have to be able to apply 2U of pyro every 2.5 seconds so hydro doesn't take over. Burning and Xiangling both do this easily, other options don't. I don't think swirling hydro is ever realistic on Mualani, I'm not even sure it maximises her team's damage. You literally can't VV buff all of her damage. It's probably not worth trying. A strong sub DPS like Emilie is a better way to increase your teams overall damage. There is a support coming up who has some leaks suggesting that they might fill a similar role to Kazuha but with a 15 second uptime and using crystalise (so no absorption BS), which would be a very good option if actually true.
great video but i'm very upset that you haven't mentioned the other top hydro dps, who combines the best from both characters: barbara has great self sustain, can vape all of her damage, has great team flexibility, can be used off field, and has very synergistic buffers and weapons because she has atk scaling. her damage is absolutely terrible, but damage isn't everything, like in neuvillette's case, and i'm confident she would be on par with mualani in the current meta if people used her
Honestly will see how she plays I don't have anything to do besides trying to get Raiden C2 or C3 so if I have enough I'll throw her a bone. Please hoyo don't give Lyney or Yae a rerun until 5.4
Mualani, pyro arcont, emilie and the natlan geo 5star gal is the premium team, it would probabily be better than neuvillette premium but only time can tell
Her multipliers are just that high, if she wasnt nerfed after the first beta test she would be able to deal over 150k every like 2 seconds without any buffs, if u would use some buffers with that she would be able to outdamage neuvilette easely. So now even after the recent nerfs ( which almost halved her multipliers) she still will deal really good amounts of damage
@@nomnomkirby well, imho it's gonna be very similar to Neuvi vs Mulani. Alhaitham has less personal dmg & his teammates contribute more, Kinich has higher personal dmg with his teammates contributing less. I would assume Kinich teams might sheet a bit higher and be better ST, but will be much worse in AOE with how single target locked he is. I also feel like both Mulani's and Kinich's performances reeeealy depend on how clunky they end up being in practice. They could feel better or worse than expected so time will tell.
mualani sucks she isn't centered around her ability to apply hydro like neuvillette is so the video should've been a shorts of 15s at most and then a hard sweep
not necessarily. a very small portion of neuvillette's hits actually apply hydro to vaporize, whereas Mualani can consistently vape all of her attacks.
@@primalaspietbh I think they’re saying it in the idea she replace xl in a kazuha furina neuv team since the first artifact set of a new region is the archons best in slot so it rlly depends on
@@NikocadosPopeyesChickenSandwic still not gonna be good enough unlike his top prefer comp neuvi, any wide party healer, furina, and zhongli. If you replace furina it's a lot of damage loss, if you replace healer its also a damage loss coz you will find it hard to max her fanfare, and if you replace zhongli he'll be prone to cc and her CA will always be cancelled so damage loss. If mavuika does heal or shield + extra buff from her if ever, then she'll definitely buff his damage
This is so copium induced video it's so biased it's not even funny Neuvillette already has his premium support so you assume Mavuika won't buff him that's just insane lmao as if Hu Tao didn't get better as the time goes, so Neuvillette would also get better with Mavuika since he has a flex slot, his core is Neuv Furina Kazuha, and from what we've seen Xilonen could also buff him so that's that, who's to say Mauvika won't also buff him lmao. And giving Mini-Waves points to Mualani because of "If you play better you can still hit all enemies in AoE" even though you can literally can just not move with Neuv and still hits everyone so he's literally better and easier.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4pJYqbl-rs0.html Looking at your content it seems you're wrong about alot of stuff this included. dmg calcs have her so much worse than Neuv and I doubt she gets another version unless it leads to another nerf >.>
The video linked is me discussing how Kazuha is not as dominant as before not me calling him bad. Also if there are calcs of her being “way worse than Neuvillette” then I can assure you they are assuming a weaker combo.
did you just say that mualani C0 can reach the damage threshold easily for bosses? you do realize next abyss cycle has a boss with 3.8M HP right? there is simply no way she can do that much damage in 1 rotation
