Cloud Strife VS Clive Rosfield Rematch ⚔️ - Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Vs Final Fantasy 16 

Yes wtf hell he killed a god

@@lovexander304 yea like every single FF main protagonist so what? 👀

@@omgr3lly827finally someone with brain + being a god doesn’t prove anything since it depending on your feat

@@scarlordxerdehan someone gets it 👍🏻

he kinda has the power of multiple gods if you think about it

The problem is the games use their worlds differently. While cloud has mako energy and is able to use materia. Clive has the power of summons n such, which already puts their worlds at different power levels. Makes it not really the best comparison. If you put Clive in clouds world with him following that worlds power system. Cloud would most likely beat Clive. While vise versa more depends on if cloud gets a summon or not. And from there that is kinda just based on circumstance

That doesn't really make sense, both would loose if the other was dropped into the others world and told "you don't have your normal powers anymore, good luck" ​@@infinite-seeker3016

@@infinite-seeker3016Exactly. These two aren’t even comparable. Everyone will have their subjective opinions on who they like more but that’s all that can be compared, really.

Toward the end of ff7, cloud defeats multiple godlike beings, including sephiroth's final form that sends an energy blast straight through the entire solar system...

​@@infinite-seeker3016yeah... I agree with this

You mean Tailed beast zilla.

Knights of the Round summon tho… can he survive that? Not to mention the other gods, Hades, Odin, Ifirit, etc. all in the palm of Clouds hands.

@Hi-Five-Ghost you didn't play 16 did you 🤣

@@heraldofthunder6244 lol I played a tiny portion of my cousins file, lmao ya caught me.

@Hi-Five-Ghost even the creator said clives easily the best main character he's made in awhile and that cloud would struggle to win because clouds attacks are natural while Clive's are supernatural take from that what you will

Sadly thats not how a lot of debates work 😭

This is a Correct Assessment.

False

​@@DevicCypherback that up

@@EastToWestTCG you clearly haven’t played the games, don’t know the lore etc etc. you failed yourself kid

@@EastToWestTCG lmao I wrote a long comment disproving you completely and utterly and I couldn’t send it because your last comment got deleted lmao

in the story Clive has backup it doesn't transfer to gameplay Clive has jill aka Shiva and torgol fenrir to back him up but like I said it doesn't show in the gameplay but shows it in the story

@@mikea2410he's still losing to clive lol

​@@saiinttedd lol not a cuance

@@daytona6369 yes bro a solider is losing to a demi god 💀

@@saiintteddprobably not. Magic cancer is a thing in clives world and he was already shown to be suffering from it at the end

Remember when sephiroth 1 hit the ifrit

Clive has no chance againts sephiroth

​​@@nikolaslavov5774Despite the fact that i like Sephiroth more, he is nowhere near endgame Clive. Sephiroth is REALLY strong, he was able to easily destroy planets, but Clive is straight up a god. In the litteral sense. He defeated the creator of his universe by himself and then absorbed his power. The reason he dies is because he decided to remove all magic from the world which caused his body to decay and turn into stone. I'm not even taking in count him defeating bahamut because that wasn't even his best feat. And don't say Something like "but Cloud can use ifrit too" because we both know that it's not the same. And again, I'm not a Clive fan, I prefer Cloud and Sephiroth, but you can't tell me they are stronger that's just wrong, at least if that is your only argument.

@@Zefiro151 now that was goddam good answer good explained, thank you

@@nikolaslavov5774 wow, I wasn't expecting to actually find someone open minded in this comment section. Well, thank you.

Well yeah , cloud is loved by millions and who the hell is Clive lol

First of all I'm 35..second of all..yea I be salty 😂

I think your over estimating the age of most of us that were playing FF7 when it came out lol most of us we kids to teens, so maybe some 40 year olds, but it's mainly people in their 30s. 50 year olds gonna like it too but not as many of them, as most of that generation "grew out" of games, it was look at as kid/nerd stuff by most people that age.

​@@DonleyDoesIt Agreed it's more peeps in their mid 30s to atleast early 40s . 40s-50s is more FF6 fans / FF Nintendo era.

@badbodynotsofit2046 shit ff6 is my favorite game and has been since renting it as a child lol so I can't even say that, your 40-50 FF1 fans 🤣💀

Ifrit's fire isn't really that hot my guy. It's just flashy at best.😅

@@SiresOrbwits-oi8mz the problem here is ff16’s ifrit is just built different, I agree in the past, Ifrit is weak but this game? The literal shell for the main antagonist and literally overpowered the main antagonist (obviously after fusing with phoenix) Even if Cloud use fire materia, Ifrit can still step on cloud😭I love cloud man but Clive take this one

@@veromby6780 Ifrit never incinerates any of the other eikons with his fire. If anything, it's just played off as a mild attack. The only time eikon fire ever did incineration damage was in the prologue of the game, then it just became attack dressing until the end of the game. And we don't even know if Ultima's weakness was fire or not so it could've been just really effective against that one boss fight. Cloud canonically fought the weapons which were basically kaiju bioweapons.

@@SiresOrbwits-oi8mz Agaisnt Eikons? Of course, but humans? Nah man Cloud definitely will burned by that if he does not use fire materia and we can argue about gameplay mechanics immunity by using materia will it really applied in lore? If we take into consideration yes then cloud has limited access to what element is he immune to. Clive can change element bro and preety fast at that too. I never said Ultima weakness is fire, but what I claim is Ifrit overpowered Ultima in the end not that Ultima weak to fire or something. Ultima has blue flames around which we can argue is only colour differences but still flame. Not to mention, Ultima can change elements as well through the eikon of course.

Cloud beat Bahamut. Just saying

No doubt Clive is super strong and godly. But I still wanna replay FF15 for how good the combat was and nostalgia.

Exactly! By the end of the game Clive is indeed literally is a god. Ultima stops referring to him as “Mythos” which is the title for its vessel, and calls him “Logos” which he identifies as a false god, as Clive is the vessel for god with all of their power, but has his own will.

Wait why Noctis tho?

Fax

@@risetoconquer2706 name one character who can travel at light speed and rival the primals of his wor;d aka gosa in their own right and beat the embodiment of demons who is just a bit weaker then him noctis gets wrecked by clive and lightning but most other ff protags get wrecked by noctis due to scaling

I also do believe clive wins and i like both games so i have no bias. Also, clive has def been fighting his whole life, however cloud was a SOLDIER before ff7 so yeah he does have some experience

​@@ManBig4621 lol u sure?

Clive is dead..... cloud is not dead end story

He aint tho cloud diffed all the summons in ff7 who scale higher than 16 ekions he also defeated sephiroth who is stronger than ultama

@@harikubrc5444L take

​@xDiamondsDogx that's dumb. You're dumb

@@harikubrc5444I want whatever copium u been smoking

I'll say the same thing: COME TO ME IFRIT!

i like cloud bruh but you nned to bring sephirot just to equal the power of clive im not joking

@@captainspaz8465 Zetta flair isn’t even feasible without taking in the Mother Crystals power, and a GREAT deal of it at that. It only holds enough power to destroy a single planet. Sephiroth can literally summon meteor without difficulty with the black materia. Not to mention he can even use SuperNova. “A blast of such despair that it can send destruction even into other dimensions.”

And I'll say: gigaflare

@@captainspaz8465 I don't think Clive can cast Zettaflare, only Dion. Clive can do Gigaflare tho

Already did one check it out lol

both are equals in terms of power 2 fking gods cloud only beat sephiroth because good always beat evil lol

​@@blacky8987 I just finished ff16 not to long ago and it's definitely a close battle with Seph vs Clive .. I don't know who would win but it's definitely a great battle

To me Sephiroth would edge out simply by his will, and his intellect. I feel like Sephiroth would simply outsmart Clive. But idk i havent played Clive's game so i could be totally wrong. Sephiroth just has a knack for being one step ahead of everyone.

​@@blacky8987cloud have a party, he do not win 1vs1

Dragonborn warrior we still talking about the same character lol

@@vanotherlevel The train from kids? Yes. And other roles too.

Clive makes cloud eat his own shit

@@juandale528Clouds a better character tho

Advent children cloud is kinda stronger than clive

Team cloud but clive is way stronger to anyone with a brain

@@nikolaslavov5774not really is cloud strength relative to a god?

Yessir

Clive just destroys Cloud

@@Neelo_Angelocloud still is the wayyyyyyyy better character 😂

​​@@gavinyoung6065well no Cloud crossdresses while clive literally smashes his childhood waifu

kid stop crying because some video game dude is better that other like bruh

@@gavinyoung6065 gonna cry broh? like get some help this is a fight not just a "oh cloud is better because i like him more" like bruh we all know cloud is just another edgy character in the games same and clive but clive get some sussy cloud is still a virgin

He would get crushed by Lightning.

@@trentstringer5144 “crushed” is definitely an over exaggeration. They are both gods that have killed gods. It’s a pretty close fight

I know the serpent looks amazing.

Yes in some ways but ultima ultimately is the false God of that world for God would not allow his creation to kill him for 1 and 2, clouds access and abilities truly surpass Clives in several different ways. Don't get me wrong both are my 2 favorite protagonists then Noctis, but omnislash, the fusion sword, teleportation abilities and direct connection to Gaia and fate itself thru the lifestream/mako makes cloud, to me, the better of the two aside from his emotional collapse. He's the embodiment of himself, his best friend, foe, and the summons he commands. Yes Clive has several shared abilities I named that cloud has but cmon, 4 different bahamut forms, knights of the round, and technically jenova, as well as his abilities from limit breaks, had he allowed the darkness to consume him. If Clive really wins this comparison it should've been like 14-12/13 not 6 IMO

Insert goddess of death Lightning hahaha

Kkkk a normal guy can in the game, cloud defeated SEPHIROTHHHHHHHH

​@@SkryptViciouzin ff17 remake cloud is dodging point blank bullet fire chopping building in half and in his fight against sephrotih in the world's end he was moving so fast even the camera couldn't keep up. cloud stomps Clive hard and it's not even funny

Clive turned to dust after going all out against an advanced alien lifeform, Cloud fought a god like entity in the lifestream (a power source that effectively acts like soul poison to living things) and came out slightly battered.😅

Le seul com pertinent 🙏

Mid soldier is crazy lol. Also you act as if cloud isn’t suffering from the same thing. The whole reason cloud becomes like that is because of all the trauma he had to endure back to back. Seeing his childhood crush cut down right in front of him, watching his mother gets murder before his eyes and after that subjected to torture and all kinds of experiments for 5 years then having his only friend get gunned down right in front of him. Cloud has been through a lot of pain throughout his life that caused his mental breakdown. Lastly he is far from a mid soldier. He’s the second strongest after Sephiroth.

idk why you people hate cloud

@@laniii2404 cuz they are mad about ff7 getting so much content over their favourite ff game they are salty

Lol i made a clive vs sephiroth on my channel you can check it out to see the result.

@@vanotherlevel well I’m not really bothered about mods in Mortal Kombat, I’m talking lore wise lol

I have a couple that I am currently working on now but i won't rule this one out.

Isn't Edea a glass cannon type which is why she needed a bodyguard?

How you goin do voice actor Benn Starr like that 😭

Cap

Who?

@@Gothmog222 You wrong for this 😭

@@Gothmog222 clive is the goat

What r u smoking, cloud barely used materia during the advent children fights against sephiroth. Sephiroth has a huge advantage with that jenova cell injection at birth. He's had way more time to cultivate jenova cells

Don't forget Cloud wasted Sephiroth as a normal human, then kicked his ass again years later as an enhanced human.

@@unskillfullymasterful and yet sephirto lost all those fights because he likes to play with cloud

@blacky8987 it really doesn't seem that way, he seemed more confident of himself that he was the most Supreme being to exist after jenova. Which is why he seemed genuinely surprised the first time cloud defeated him with pure adrenaline without even being injected with mako or jenova cells. I'm going off memory alone tho and I think hopefully they will explore more of this in rebirth..

@@blacky8987 No, he wasn't playing after the first time. When they fought in the planet's core at the end of VII Cloud was just stronger than him, even if it was just a battle of wills. In Advent Children Sephiroth Octaslashed him and still couldn't put him down.

You gonna ignore how Clive took a Zettaflare to the chest and destroyed and absorbed Ultima? Clive became an absolute god at the end, Cloud needs a party, Clive literally solos the entire game.

So your choice is clive?

@@vanotherlevel For that yes

That's called character development

@@Rustyhound-Cartoons Yes I know

Cloud has always had his priorities right. His problem was relating and caring about other people's priorities.

Cloud never made SOLDIER, he's just a wanna be never has heen Zack 😂

@@hortinus never made soldier still is one. Also cloud has more than surpassed Zack. Look I get it you like the whole knights and castle shit. But cloud is better Clive isn't bad but he in clouds tier.

Clive neg diff...

Clive killed the god who created him and his world in his final form all by himself. He has been given infinite power ever since he was born, but he only realized this later on in his life. Even though Clive’s sole purpose of existing was to get stronger using this power so that the god, Ultima, could consume him, he eventually became even more powerful than his own creator. It is crazy how the power of a man in his 20’s grew exponentially at such a fast rate, that it was eventually able to surpass that of a being infinitely older than him. Just imagine how powerful Clive would be if he had realized his true potential earlier in his life. Not to mention that he consumed Ultima’s power and reset his universe at the end of the game. I’ve only played ff7 remake, so I haven’t seen Cloud in his prime yet, but Clive sound too hard for him to beat.

@@twxet7095 you only played remake. Ok close killed the arbitor of fate with minimal energy or understanding also go watch advent children.

Nah man stop the cap…Clive will disintergrate cloud

@@veromby6780 Laughable. All Cloud has to do is equip Elemental materia and Fire materia and he'll absorb fire. Clive won't be incinerating anybody, he'll just be healing Cloud with fire.

@@Puff_Chady Nah man…Clive can just step on Cloud even if Cloud does equip the fire materia quick enough

bruh clive is just too much for our boy cloud

@@Puff_Chady my guy clive beat the god of his own universe...

the last tme a cheack you can win fight with that...

@@captainspaz8465 bruh no one was even talking about zack. All they said was cloud is a better character than clive which is true. Cloud being a “zack wannabe” was only during disc 1 in ff7 before he corrected his false memories.

😐

😂😂 oh come on

Ok now you're dick riding Ifrit has defeated Gods lol

Name’s swapped?

Sounds like an interesting one to try.

@@vanotherlevel It will be better when lightning wins😂😅 I have been his fan since 2009😊 I am an old player and unfortunately I don't have time to play anymore😔

Claire farron 😉 ♥️

Lightning Farron (goddess of death) vs Clive Rosfield (Ifrit Risen/Logos)

@@guidedsoul7914 ✅️

Can't a bro have an opinion 😭

@@vanotherlevel normally yes, but not when it's clear bias and just this level of incorrect XD why not just make a video saying "I like Clive more" 😆 don't BS to thos extent with a vs match up haha

​@@PrinceCharmlessClive in is base form scales to Ultima is limit brake from an Altima can create Suns/Stars

​@lancelot2833 if we want to scale that then Cloud survives that and more 😂

@@judgementcl again I do believe l cloud beast Clive but cloud can't watch him though it will have to be a full flight Clive in base form skills to Ultima directly in ultimate is able to create multiple Stars base form not limit break or Ifrit full power

clive killed the creator of his universe

Your inhaling some Peruvian cocaine

​@kieranstimpson6308 clive killed an alien from an advanced race that created life on his planet. Ultima's people didn't create the planet itself or even the universe. Very powerful for creating life, obviously, but let's not inflate their ego to much lol

​@@kieranstimpson6308 Ultima didn't create the universe.

Who said Clive cant beat Sephiroth? You? It must be right then since you said it. 😂 can Cloud defeat the creator of his own universe? Cause thats what Clive did

And he still get washed by clive. Sit down buddy.

Someone didn't play FF16 💀💀💀

he stomps him as well sephiroth didn't create the universe or have any feats as strong as that

@@Grimmyscreating isn’t the same as combat. What were ultima’s actual combat feats?

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Noctis no