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frank howarth
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I have upgraded my CNC machine. I have been getting new parts from Avid CNC over the last few months and it is finally time to do one big project and upgrade the CNC. I have new pinion gears for the rack gear, I have a new z axis to put on, as well as a new 8.7 horsepower spindle. While I was making these upgrades I also wanted to do a few other things to the CNC machine that did not involve new parts. While I had a lot of the weight off of the machine, I moved it over towards the back of the shop by 4 inches. This will give me a little more space around the machine. I also put on a new 1” thick MDF spoil board which I hope will give me more holding power with my hold downs, and give me more opportunities to resurface the spoil board as I will have more thickness to work with. I also added a bunch of aluminum channel bracing to the table and will be storing a stack of oak wood to dry over the next year or so. This will add a bunch of weight to the table and hopefully keep it more steady as the machine moves around. I have also moved from Mach 3 to Mach 4 for the control software.
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@ACCORDriver_NL
@ACCORDriver_NL 3 года назад
I was waiting for the "bed goes up" and "bed goes down" .... 😂🤣
@petejandrell4512
@petejandrell4512 3 года назад
Me too Roy, it would have been great wouldn't it?
@eatenkate
@eatenkate 3 года назад
I just said it in my head but it wasn't the same...
@johnniewalker39
@johnniewalker39 3 года назад
Me too!!!
@BeastOfSoda
@BeastOfSoda 3 года назад
Quite. I am disappointed in him.
@MrTapanes
@MrTapanes 3 года назад
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
@paulsmyers203
@paulsmyers203 3 года назад
It's good that you and your twin brother are working together in the shop again. I was worried there was some family drama and you weren't speaking to each other.
@tallAldiProduction
@tallAldiProduction 3 года назад
One trick to counteract the jiggle is to fill the extruded aluminum of the frame with sand. Fill it just so much that it still has some room to move an cap it of with hot glue. The mass of the sand and the fact that it can move inside the Aluminium will greatly reduce vibration and jiggle
@JakeSpurlock
@JakeSpurlock 3 года назад
I was hoping for some Homer Simpson with the end table, haha
@cgstadler
@cgstadler 3 года назад
Me too!
@djAnakin
@djAnakin 3 года назад
Bed goes up. Bed goes down.
@davidmarshall2399
@davidmarshall2399 3 года назад
Missed opportunity
@frankmakes
@frankmakes 3 года назад
D'oh!
@fnordingers
@fnordingers 3 года назад
Me too
@jimsjacob
@jimsjacob 3 года назад
Anyone else notice how he handled that 1” MDF board?? If memory serves, those things are very heavy and that was a full sheet. Turns out the soft spoken humble retired guy can bend you in half if you get out of hand! 😂
@DiHandley
@DiHandley 3 года назад
He’s a machine! 😉😂
@Zarlax
@Zarlax 3 года назад
My back spasmed when I saw him carrying it.
@BlueLineCNC
@BlueLineCNC 3 года назад
I sure saw it! I have a difficult time managing a full sheet of 3/4” by myself.
@mafr3552
@mafr3552 3 года назад
In the next shot he was wearing that hand-thing.. :D
@Malidictus
@Malidictus 3 года назад
Well, he was manhandling gigantic logs in a previous video, described as "the largest piece he could handle safely" or something to that effect. I think it was for the wheeled stairs. Frank appears to be unexpectedly really strong :)
@Steelcrafted
@Steelcrafted 3 года назад
I like the subtle flex at 4:19 showing how much you paid for your wrench....we get it, that RU-vid money is nice! 😆😉
@karanadon137
@karanadon137 3 года назад
"we see him rollin'..." 🤑
@JOSEPH-vs2gc
@JOSEPH-vs2gc 3 года назад
chinese-ium steel. we really should stop giving them our money.
@rickcimino5483
@rickcimino5483 3 года назад
no doubt a priceless garage sale find
@Ksweetpea
@Ksweetpea 3 года назад
Id love to watch a time-lapse of leveling the table
@I_M_Nonno
@I_M_Nonno 3 года назад
My shins would for sure find those sharp corners on the aluminum braces.
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek 3 года назад
In addition to being educational and informative, your videos are some of the most entertaining I know of. Thanks so much for letting us watch and for your excellent video editing!
@MRrwmac
@MRrwmac 3 года назад
I’m sure you’re going to enjoy all the upgrades you’ve been waiting so long to install. Have fun!
@javabean252
@javabean252 3 года назад
Thank you for putting this out there. My avid cnc is on order and Im going to change to the 8hp spindle. Your comments helped me make up my mind.
@elluisito000
@elluisito000 3 года назад
I have said this before, and i will said it again: when i grow up i want a shop like yours :D
@kenethsoberano
@kenethsoberano 3 года назад
Frank, I was taught to immediately seal the ends of your freshly milled lumber with beeswax before storing/stacking to dry. Otherwise the ends dry out much faster which encourages cracking and warping. Sealed ends help the lumber to dry out at an even rate.
@OlivierVerdier
@OlivierVerdier 3 года назад
Hi Frank ! Great news ! Cory guided me through acceleration profiles the XY movements in Mach 4 for the machine to shake a little less, and it has made a true difference for me ! (The cutting straying at the same speed)
@frankmakes
@frankmakes 3 года назад
Thanks, I will have to ask about that.
@zaplocked
@zaplocked 3 года назад
Do you mind sharing the values you're using on your machine? We got a guide from them, but not any suggested changes. we have a 5x10 pro series with the 3hp spindle.
@cbalan777
@cbalan777 3 года назад
I'm impressed with how much use you've gotten out of all the materials that came out of that pool.
@sourabhk2373
@sourabhk2373 3 года назад
Coming here on the recommendation of Jeremy Fielding! Incredible video!
@ApexWoodworks
@ApexWoodworks 2 года назад
What an amazing CNC you've got, Frank. Thanks for sharing your excellent engineering and assembly skills with us.
@felixfromnebraska8648
@felixfromnebraska8648 3 года назад
An impressive piece of equipment, Frank. You are truly a master of all things mechanical. Thanks for sharing this video with all of us here, Felix!
@bigraymie
@bigraymie 3 года назад
Jeezz... I'm glad ONE of us knew what we were doing.... Another great video Frank (y)
@brainfornothing
@brainfornothing 3 года назад
I'm the only one who was expenting in the first seconds of the video for him to appear with a "pop" ? Hehehe ! :D Thanks for sharing !
@ADBBuild
@ADBBuild 3 года назад
I did as well.
@DanKoning777
@DanKoning777 3 года назад
Always a pleasure to watch when Frank is tinkering in his shop.
@schorschp2537
@schorschp2537 3 года назад
I like the way you do things. I always learn something new or another way of doing it. I also like that you reuse a lot of things that you have saved earlyer. Everything has another purpose of use. Your Video editing ist great. Many greetings from Germany.
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos
@IEnjoyCreatingVideos 3 года назад
Nice job on the upgrades Frank! Thanks for always sharing with us!💖👌👍😎JP
@nebulight
@nebulight 3 года назад
That exposed C channel on the outside if the table looks painful from here.
@jbb5470
@jbb5470 3 года назад
Very interesting upgrade Frank. Always enjoy your videos! Thanks for posting
@jwv6985
@jwv6985 3 года назад
Thank you for another great video! Always love to watch your projects. Very therapeutic 😁
@Kingdomfire1
@Kingdomfire1 3 года назад
How have you watched a 21 minute video in 9 minutes? 😂
@jwv6985
@jwv6985 3 года назад
@@Kingdomfire1 I watch in very fast forward! 😂
@Kingdomfire1
@Kingdomfire1 3 года назад
@@jwv6985 😂😂👍🏻
@Gobi_Ness
@Gobi_Ness 3 года назад
You have A very relaxing voice. It is like listing to A.S.M.R.
@stevewright454
@stevewright454 3 года назад
Thanks for the info Frank. Just got my 21 boxes from UPS And your info will help greatly in my upcoming assembly! Cheers 🍻
@chorehunter4125
@chorehunter4125 3 года назад
“There’s probably a precise tension to the belt” A man after my own heart
@alfredneumann4692
@alfredneumann4692 3 года назад
Hope, your arm is well again. Thanks for showing. Regards from Germany.
@johnerickennedy
@johnerickennedy 3 года назад
Always paint the ends of the slabs to sealed them before stored them. Prevent to crack.
@Jeppe.P.Bjerget
@Jeppe.P.Bjerget 3 года назад
As always a incredible video. You make the video so different and special. I look forward to see the new project you will make on this CNC table. I wish you and your family a great week. All the best from Jan in Norway
@garagemonkeysan
@garagemonkeysan 3 года назад
Great film. Always excellent work. 17:20 remembering drafting tables... : ) Mahalo for sharing!
@mandyleeson1
@mandyleeson1 3 года назад
Thanks Frank, this was really interesting to watch.
@mpdirigent
@mpdirigent 3 года назад
Looking fantastic, as ever! Thanks for the new video and cheers from New York!
@john-nutsabouttools6989
@john-nutsabouttools6989 3 года назад
Good stuff Frank. Nice upgrades!
@uncannyvalleywoods7248
@uncannyvalleywoods7248 3 года назад
Whenever I need to upgrade my CNC, I have to go to the gym.
@edwardchester1
@edwardchester1 3 года назад
That outer horizontal bracing looks like an absolute shin ripper.
@davidblakesley4801
@davidblakesley4801 3 года назад
Frank, every time my wife catches me watching one of your videos, she slaps me in the back of the head as if to say, why aren't you more like Frank; get out there in that woodshop that we're still paying for and make something. Still, I love watching your videos and my coworkers have gotten used to the constant bruising and my wife isn't putting as much oomph into it as she used to. Cheers.
@kevinnathanson6876
@kevinnathanson6876 3 года назад
Awesome as always sir! I hesitate to point this out, but conventional wisdom says to never use MDF as stickers when stacking wet wood, as MDF and moisture don't get along, and your stickers will gradually become shims over time... Also, with oak I would be concerned about marking due to oak's tannin content etc. Enjoy the new spindle!
@SciPunk215
@SciPunk215 3 года назад
Nice. I'll suggest again, the C&C computer probably doesn't need to be close to the machine. Putting it in a dust free area and running a cable may be a better solution. Not sure if it's worth the time and effort, but it's a thought.
@soniclab-cnc
@soniclab-cnc 3 года назад
I am really enjoying my new machine with the new upgraded sensors. I am always walking into the old ones that stick way out. I did make some brackets to protect them but now I just smash my hip on the brackets. Thinking I will upgrade the other machine soon as well...
@ralhmcc47
@ralhmcc47 3 года назад
"Yes Sir, I know saving these oak timbers from the U S S Constitution are taking up room, someday we will need them. Sill true today.
@wollinger
@wollinger 3 года назад
You should look into moving that Pc to a cleaner location or install passive cooling on it.
@9Biloela99
@9Biloela99 3 года назад
Pure genius
@onooooooooooo
@onooooooooooo 3 года назад
Hey Frank. I built a CNC PC rig for a friend a few years ago. They sell thicker dust filters very cheap and it will probably prolong your computers life. Search 'dustproof fan protector computer', it's usually under $10 and you can keep that dust from destroying your fans and building up in the heat sinks.
@KimHarderFog
@KimHarderFog 3 года назад
A new Frank Howarth upload, tis a good day
@SeraphimKnight
@SeraphimKnight 3 года назад
Oh man, I'd totally forgot the workshop was once a pool!!! That was so long ago haha
@DustinGlendinning
@DustinGlendinning 3 года назад
As a video editor I’m curious what your data storage workflow is for your footage to be able to pull up a ten year old clip-presumably -on a whim. Love your work!
@planespeaking
@planespeaking 3 года назад
Marius Hornburger just put a new spindle on his CNC and had some very clever techniques to get it perfectly aligned which he uploade to YT. Wish I had a space like yours to work in.
@farmerjohn8726
@farmerjohn8726 3 года назад
Hi ... interesting build! ... you're lucky to have such a great machine! I was under the impression, could be wrong, that the surface of MDF has a greater hardness factor than the interior because of the high pressure manufacturing process ... if you intend to resurface the spoil board from time to time, you may lose the out-of-the-box dead smooth glassy surface ... maybe this is not a concern? ... just wondering .... Cheers Farmer John, Ontario, Canada
@thomasbecker9676
@thomasbecker9676 3 года назад
I used to operate one of those tables at a shop in Burbank, and it did tend to shake. Granted, I'm sure the guy who owned the company was responsible for it being out of tram, square, plumb, level, etc.
@doubledarefan
@doubledarefan 3 года назад
You and Marius Hornberger should collab. Of course, we will have to wait for saner times, first. Project idea: A house with filters for the CNC PC.
@lifeoflarry6464
@lifeoflarry6464 3 года назад
Great video Frank!
@wolfgtweb
@wolfgtweb 3 года назад
Have you thought about putting the hinge for the vertical portion on the bottom instead of in the joint? Then you could have it at the same level as the main table surface and not have the hinge in the way. You could then even resurface the entire table surface (including the vertical extension) at the same time. I know if would take some reconfiguration of the hardwood piece, but I think it would be worth it.
@policedog4030
@policedog4030 3 года назад
Great video as always!. If you did have some sealer on the oak exposed end grain I couldn't tell in the video but think that would help a lot with the checking.
@spxyx
@spxyx 3 года назад
With an 8hp motor I would think that you could use a flycutter for large surfacing operations.
@davecurda2350
@davecurda2350 3 года назад
I was so disappointed in not hearing Homer say the table goes up the table goes down. Lol 😂
@sampull3541
@sampull3541 3 года назад
I was waiting for a Homer coment on the table going up and down! 😂
@planespeaking
@planespeaking 3 года назад
Btw an impact driver will not torque twist your wrist like a combi drill will. A 12v one will suffice for light to fairly moderate tasks and are lighter too.
@jerrystark3587
@jerrystark3587 3 года назад
WOW! Impressive!
@criticalbill
@criticalbill 3 года назад
Was I the only one waiting for "bed goes up" "bed goes down" when reattaching the end table ?
@BCTCanadian
@BCTCanadian 3 года назад
Frank, great video. Your drill though! Doesn't it drive you batty that it's so wobbly when you're using it? The chuck doesn't seem setup right at all. I bet Milwaukee would send you a new unit that is setup right, because every time you drive in a screw, or take one out it's noticeable. All the best!
@FCWW87
@FCWW87 3 года назад
8.7 HP spindle fort woodworking!?!? I must have miss heard that! I have a 3hp router and have never bogged it down.
@MrPhotodoc
@MrPhotodoc 3 года назад
NASA does woodworking.
@sydneymcconnaughhay5947
@sydneymcconnaughhay5947 3 года назад
Holly Batman,your awesome
@zaplocked
@zaplocked 3 года назад
Adding weight to ours is our next step. We just replaced the spoilboard and added their vertical workholding kit.
@Cynyr
@Cynyr 3 года назад
time to get a "big boy" bit (4" or 6" diameter) and see what sorts of depths of cut you can actually take. Maybe get it to make real chips and not dust. I wonder if the new spindle has speed control.
@bestbladerevah
@bestbladerevah 3 года назад
you might already know but all of what you call bolts are screws. bolts use the support of a nut two hold two materials together and a screw uses a material to hold itself and another material together. they're called machine screws
@BearMeat4Dinner
@BearMeat4Dinner 3 года назад
Jeeze you got King Kong on there! LOL
@BevinEG
@BevinEG 3 года назад
I agree
@Mike__B
@Mike__B 3 года назад
Ok, I haven't gotten through the whole video yet, but WHAT!? 8.7 HP (~6500 watts)? Does it require 3 phase power? Because even at 240V that's almost 30 amps. Or am I looking at this wrong?
@nutsmcflurry3737
@nutsmcflurry3737 3 года назад
I want to play in Frank's shop. Do you have a calendar for available time slots?
@joppepeelen
@joppepeelen Год назад
if i look at the speeds you usually go.. the 2.2kw was more then enough. i usually go full depth in medite 313 mdf.. so 18mm in one go or birch ply 18 mm in one go. what most people do with cncs .. is not going fast enough. you can easily go a few meter a minute full depth.
@tobyb9559
@tobyb9559 3 года назад
As always, fun to watch. I always love seeing you do two things at once. I am curious, I have noticed that you haven't been using the dust collection, How come?
@RossTheGenMan
@RossTheGenMan 3 года назад
when you remove the electronics box for the old spindle you can see in your half wall a plug hanging halfway out of the socket...
@Jester62D
@Jester62D 2 года назад
Great video. I enjoy understanding your whys & how's to address certain issues. What softwares are you using: CAD ? And (CAM) translator (from CAD to g-code) to control the router ? Is it a 3D packard ? I'm considering getting a CNC router but no one explains what SW tools they utilize. Your answer will be appreciated !
@limerickman8512
@limerickman8512 3 года назад
Be careful removing dust from power supplies. The thermal shock can crash the supplies. Remove the dust bit by bit over a series of days. In dusty conditions you need a dust filter near the air inlets.
@michaelseery5588
@michaelseery5588 3 года назад
Wow, that’s interesting. Is there anywhere I can read more about this?
@limerickman8512
@limerickman8512 3 года назад
@@michaelseery5588 Personal experience from maintaining older machines with identical power supply designs, which have not changed much in 30 years. Capacitors & transfomers in power supplies blew which has years of dust, then dust blowned out and the temperature dropped mechically contractions causing electrical failures. Heat creates expansion, cold contractions. Blow dust out regularly as magnetic fields attract dust, despite fans in power supplies. Best to have dust filters on power supplies in dusty areas. Dust is a thermal insulator, so it holds in the heat.
@michaelseery5588
@michaelseery5588 3 года назад
@@limerickman8512 I think I understand.You’re saying that if you apply a blast of air to a hot capacitor, that can cause thermal shock. Right?
@limerickman8512
@limerickman8512 3 года назад
@@michaelseery5588 Yes, but remove the large amount of dust bit by bit over long period of time to allow it cool slowly, unless you regularly air brush it out regularly and have filters after getting new equipment/power supplies. Regular Prevention Maintenance is crucial. Prevention of dust getting in via air filters is preferable.
@OtherBrotherDaryl
@OtherBrotherDaryl 3 года назад
Beautiful. Time for a new driver bit that isn't bent. ;-)
@phatpizza610
@phatpizza610 3 года назад
Watch out using compressed air to clean out your compressor, I killed one doing exactly the same, guess it generated static in the line, maybe grounding the nozzle might prevent it
@mrxmry3264
@mrxmry3264 3 года назад
Is that still the same bent bit you had when you built the machine?
@cgstadler
@cgstadler 3 года назад
Glad it is the bit. I thought Frank had dropped his drill or something.
@mrxmry3264
@mrxmry3264 3 года назад
@@cgstadler IIRC he said that he only realized it was bent when he watched the video, not while he was building. funny, that. but if i had a bent bit, i'd replace it.
@frankmakes
@frankmakes 3 года назад
yes
@mrxmry3264
@mrxmry3264 3 года назад
@@frankmakes why didn't you replace it? or try to fix it?
@graveurgraveur2691
@graveurgraveur2691 3 года назад
Bravo!
@Thamli
@Thamli 3 года назад
Why would you make it smaller (12in > 8in)? If you're not using it now, you might need it later. Always useful... Right?
@KS-uv7yc
@KS-uv7yc 3 года назад
Hi, Have you considered plastic nails (shot through a nail gun) to hold down items on your CNC table? If hit, the bit cuts through without damage and removal of the pinned down pieces is an easy lateral tap.
@ianwarren8874
@ianwarren8874 2 года назад
You have much 3 phase machinery. I would like to know what kind of phase converter you use. The CNC comes with its own converter? You run single phase 220v to it at how many amps? I'm looking to expand my machinery. Seems there are more options for 3 phase machines.
@biguprochester
@biguprochester 3 года назад
It’s interesting how you use a drill instead of an impact driver.
@tobyb9559
@tobyb9559 3 года назад
Probably because the torque of the impact driver is not as controllable as the drill. In a few instances, you can hear the sound of the clutch when it tightens.
@biguprochester
@biguprochester 3 года назад
@@tobyb9559 disagree. The variable speed control on the impact is quite precise. I just think it works better for spinning screws and bolts. My opinion obviously
@kschleic9053
@kschleic9053 3 года назад
A variable clutch drill/driver is definitely the way to go with machine assembly... Setting the clutch to the bolt torque you need is more precise, and it will be much less likely to cross thread.
@tobyb9559
@tobyb9559 3 года назад
@@biguprochester Mine doesn't have a clutch, but based on your comment I looked on the Mkita website and I see that the new ones do. I will make sure to seek that out when I go to replace mine.
@WHATAGIRLWANTS2009
@WHATAGIRLWANTS2009 3 года назад
Frank, I really enjoy your videos. May I ask, are you sponsored by AVID? Thanks
@frankmakes
@frankmakes 3 года назад
no money, but they send my free equipment.
@WHATAGIRLWANTS2009
@WHATAGIRLWANTS2009 3 года назад
@@frankmakes Thanks for your honestly, how much does a set-up lie that cost?
@Mr2at
@Mr2at 3 года назад
Metal shop!
@Cspacecat
@Cspacecat 3 года назад
He needs to put a filtration system on his CNC CPU. Better yet, an actual filtration box with an all-in-one should be preferable to a standard CPU chassis. We have CNC Machines. Why not build a system chassis out of hardwood and then install upside down? I personally have 3 filters completely blocking all incoming dust to my CNC CPU. What I didn't cut out, I printed with my 3D printer. I mounted the back of the motherboard to the front for easy access. The DVD and all buttons with plug-ins are also mounted at the front.
@joshclark44
@joshclark44 3 года назад
I'm sure other people are asking already, but what happened to your arm?
@nutsmcflurry3737
@nutsmcflurry3737 3 года назад
So let me get my terminology correct. Z axis is the vertical movement. Why would you want to from 12in to 8in in vertical height for the machine? Does not appear to be any height restrictions in your shop.
@gimmepowder
@gimmepowder 3 года назад
Rigidity.
@nutsmcflurry3737
@nutsmcflurry3737 3 года назад
@@gimmepowder It's only less ridged if you use the height. At the new current height of 8 in, it should have the same rigidity as the 8 in level of the old Z axis.
@user-pw3vj4gm1n
@user-pw3vj4gm1n 3 года назад
Cool!!👍👍👍🇺🇦
@jimeronimo
@jimeronimo 3 года назад
Hey Frank. Caught wind of your channel from another. Was curious if you're doing commission work with that big router.
@virtualfather4117
@virtualfather4117 3 года назад
If you put cheese cloth over computer intake a lot less dust get in tks
@tom8857
@tom8857 3 года назад
What's that Frank your doing a CNC spindle giveaway.
@FrietjeOorlog
@FrietjeOorlog 3 года назад
Hi Frank! What happened to your wrist?
@Thepuffingyank
@Thepuffingyank 3 года назад
on your computer change your fan from in to out
@cat5dookie1
@cat5dookie1 3 года назад
Avid CNC website is down. Did they go belly up?
@ikbendusan
@ikbendusan 3 года назад
> 8.7 hp spindle > steppers it's time for servos chief
@lomoDaniel
@lomoDaniel 3 года назад
What cad software should I get for this machine? I own a Mac.
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