Cobra Kai Season 3 | Daniel vs. Chozen (Miyagi-Do Secrets) 

Was almost as good as seeing Boba again👍

Me too...just a wonderful scene.

Same, it brings that late 80's cheese thats just full of happy feelings. I love this season so much.

Yeah, that was brilliant. In Karate Kid 2 at first he was kinda goofy. First thing he did was making fun of Daniel and smiling, and at the end he was angry and hungry for revenge. The way they reversed this here is fantastic.

When Chozen did the nose honk and laughed was crazy!!!

Hiroshima.

And don’t forget the *HONK*

I love it :) And Daniel's all about ... "Can you teach me?" :D

Anng liked it!

sounds like pre-war sabotage.

yep it was brilliant

He is the best of this season really amazing actor

Ik he was gonna honk Daniel’s nose

Well anyone that watched Karate Kid 2 would know that he was gonna honk his nose

I laughed so hard. I love this franchise

Miyagi would be proud of Chozen.

@@JohnnyLREACTS So would Sato, I think.

@@RobertNielsen1970 Yes, they (Miyagi and Sato) would.

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Well his the only one who masterd the miyagi do among all the students

It was the coolest episode of the season.

No. Chozen is not Mr. Miyagi. Chozen wisdom is not even close than Mr. Miyagi. Even though his extensive knowledge about Miyagi - Do is broader now in Cobra Kai series. But, like the Bartender ever said to Daniel while he is in Tokyo. There is a belief in Japanese culture that even the dead one still wants to reach their beloved one. So, possibly, Sensei Miyagi's soul still wants to help Danie, but at this time his soul reaches Daniel through Chozen. 😇

@@alvinaditya3684 he might not be close to Miyagi but he’s gone on a right path

@@joshuaalvarado8998 Yep, exactly that's why Mr. Miyagi's soul reaches Daniel through Chozen. Not only because Chozen has better knowledge and skill in Miyagi - Do but also he is a better man now. Especially his 'honk'. 😀

karate cousins

Far better than Anakin’s

As fine as Zuko's redemption arc.

Though you don't see his redemption arc, you only see his beginning and his results, the end of the Arc. I would say it might make for an interesting series or movie.

@@Elurin Would love to maybe see a spinoff perhaps leaving off after KK2 where Sato takes him back and continues training him.

@@willn8664 sato is long dead

We call this...a healthy grudge 🤣🤣🤣🤣

he got him back in the same way lol

Swear bro 😎

That Chozen wanted to show Daniel the rest of Miyagi-Do, and ended it all in peace.......is a great thing.........LOVED IT!!! Best part..........2:50.......HONK!!!

That's cuz he killed his uncle after Danielson and Mr. Miogi left and has since reached a state of peace knowing he's gotten away with it his entire life #Twists

Well, that's what you call, an act within an act.

Why can't johnny be the same?

@@surenotejas3163 Cause chozen actually had a Master

Not really a character arc though tbh. Him and Danny split up and Grew up. No need to hold a Grudge for over 20 years

Wait until you see him in season 5. He's arguably the best part of it.

Lovely character, impossible not fell in Love

He been waiting many years to get back at Daniel

He really did

it's a shame we only got to see 1 episode of Chozen

@@jonzwikk1582 Well, at least for us that episode will always be known as the "Chozen One".

Yeah, a good way to repay Daniel after he saved him.

Ikr

His leg really stopped working

@@TrainJr313 yh if u hit it in right place

I thought the same thing.daniel would of been dead if it weren't for chozen

Would be nice if Kreese did the same, he is so bitter about what happened in the past.

@@ThePollux23 People fail to realize that he's a product of the same thing he's doing to other people. A product of his time. You can talk about Kreese all you want, but you could never understand the detrimental effects of war. Not to mention being locked up as a PoW(prisoner of war). His own captain withheld the information of is girlfriend's car accident & untimely death just to use him for the mission. He wasn't cared about, seen as an individual. He was just another person to be manipulated for their strength. You can see how much that changes him, and how he begins to despise people as he stares down his captain. Before letting him fall into the snake pit.

@Benjamin Tyus That's one thing that I wasn't sure about what changed Chozen to kind hearted as Kumiko said that Chozen is a changed person. I can only guess that he changed because he was letting it go about his honor (he said he wanted to do a death match with Daniel because Daniel insulted his honor), or because the death of his uncle Sato brought sadness to him (even though Sato said that he is dead to Chozen meaning he doesn't care for Chozen anymore which angered Chozen) or because he was appreciative to Daniel for not murdering him in the death match even though Daniel had a perfect opportunity to murder Chozen (even though Chozen will call that "act of coward" since he said that to Mr. Miyagi when Mr. Miyagi had a perfect opportunity to murder Chozen with a spear). Kreese on the other hand was an army captain and a karate champion which is why Kreese doesn't let go of his pride.

It’s not pride that drives Kreese, he’s just batshit crazy.

Looks like Kreese will be a changed man once he gets a love interest with one of his student’s moms

We he knows the bad side and the good side very well

The character is still believable, I look forward to seeing him teach Daniel & Johnny to grow together.

@@creydadj If Chozen and Terry Silver get into a fight in season 5 who do you think would win 🤔

@@nealsmall9316 I see Chozen as more skilled but Terry is more vicious and could do something twisted

Really I think he's a mix of both Miyagi and Sato fused together.

True.

Yup

Wat about danial he improved too and I know chozen changed but danial too

Ikr

Yes because he finally proved he learned from both of them.

Well said Luke.

No shit Sherlock.

@@tonsofcode2478 damn Daniel

ok luke

Well technically he did

That was a soft honk. I laughed so hard

I knew he was gonna do that

That honk what what we didn’t know we needed. I’ve rewatched that I do how many times and it’s just as funny each time!

Fr

Which just goes to show how much the guys behind this show truly get it.

Lol yeah Zukos sisters (can't remember her name) friend who used to do that Chozen move.

Tai Lee, gotchu bro

@@triforceofpowa thanks.

Lmao

Daniel: thats rough buddy.

That hedid, and rightfully so.

It was a great piece of "revenge".

Yeah he made Daniel seem weak compared to him

He was a far superior Martial Artist than Daniel - who got lucky that night - and he finally got to prove it in the most humorous way! But I love the way Chosen took a humiliating defeat and became a FAR greater person! Great Writing!

@@texasrockshillcountry6574 true... Daniel was trained for one year or something at the time.. But Chozen was trained from a very young age.. Only rage clouded his skills

It's the same actor. Yuji Okumoto

He flipped the script!

@@jacobrodrigues6629 I knew it was the same actor. I just didn't know his name off hand.

Big time. The joke wouldn't have been effective if he didn't keep with the terse, intense character up until that very moment he switched. Just brilliant.

Btw correction: it’s aka not ala

Me!!! I absolutely hated chozen in KK2 but he’s my hero now! Lol

Movie,?

@@Dilllonm chozen is the villain from the Karate Kid 2 movie. Horrible dude who wanted to kill Daniel. The way he redeemed himself and becoming the best thing in the season was something else. You should watch the movies! Make sure you watch the third movie as well before the new season starts. (You can skip the fourth movie)

@@kuhne It’ll give me something to do while waiting for the last season considering I knock them all out in a month

@@Dilllonm awesome

Also the most powerful.

The show kind of confuses me because Johnny teaches his student to block and that’s defense, so I don’t get it

@@TheJoker-bz3ms defense is the best offense

@@laplelp7780 The best defense is "No be there".

@@TheJoker-bz3ms Well duh, just because your style is pure offense doesn't mean you don't block. Or do you want them to block punches and kick with their face?

And Daniel asking Chozen to teach him, gave him his honour back

kreese moved a level up on the a hole list

You could say from Bad Guy to Bad Ass

Which is a good lesson, that anyone can choose wisdom over emotion and redeem themselves. Chozen might have started a bit late, but he was no slouch when it came to changing his mindset.

@@Midge-xn9tp also sparing chosen. Chosen owes Daniel his life

facts

Dont care

@@peladohdp8304 shut up

@@Tizoc69 You were suposed to answer "About your feelings"

SAME!!

I agree. Even with Daniel not having been taught by Mr. Miyagi at an earlier age than as a teenager, the way Mr. Miyagi taught Daniel, Daniel should've been much better. But yea...that losing sight will get a person every time.

Daniel will get there

I actually love that currently Chozen is the most powerful one in the series.

David Jin, Chozen is no where near miyagi’s level if he was Daniel would not have been able to remotely keep up with him

in part was that daniel wasn't mature enough to teach him something like that, chozen said that

Pre-strike is the best defense against STRIKE FIRST.

I love that the whole pressure point attack fits perfectly with the pacifist/self defense nature of myagi-do, while also making sense of why mr myagi didn't teach it to a 16 years old boy since it's very advanced and possibly detrimental if not used correctly.

He wasn’t saturated in corrupted western society and it’s twisted ideals

@@Dmvgold1995 But Chozen did have a twisted view of honor though.

Daniel was always a hot head and short tempered. Part of the point of Cobra Kai is how these characters could have been or had the life of their enemy depending on who their teacher was. Sato was full of hate when Miyagi came back to Okinawa in KK2. He was an arrogant, greedy, win at all costs businessman and his attitude greatly impacted Chozen. Johnny could have been Daniel and Daniel Johnny if the circumstances were a little different and they had different teachers. Daniel grew up kind of poor and became rich and Johnny grew up rich and became poor. Johnny teaching Miguel was basically like if a softer version of Kreese had trained Daniel. It's all about the importance of father figures and role models and how everyone sees themselves as the good guy in their own story. The fact that Daniel is often angry and not centered despite having a life as an adult that he could only have dreamed of as a kid says a lot. He knows he has some issues and has a long way to go to be like Miyagi.

@@Dmvgold1995 There we go!

This show REALLY HUMANIZED the og char Respect to the creative team

And Chozen is much stronger than Kreese. He could use that pressure point technique, and make Kreese like a bitch

@@Refresh251 chozan can even beat up terry silver and Mike Barnes

@@Ricky-lakers-fan he can kill them for sure

@@Refresh251 i think chozen can fuck him up without the pressure points, chozen version of miyagi do is way more deadlier and brutal than daniel, daniel is more a counter fighter he have good defense and know when to attack that made him a solid and smart fighter, by the other side chozen is a master in offensive and defensive ways of miyagi do also their fighting methods are different, Daniel miyagi style is to "neutralize" the foe with powerful defense and good strikes to avoid damage himself and the foe by the otherside chozen "Traditional" style is TO KILL, we had to remember that when he was a teenager, he fought in a brutal way in his deathmatch against daniel, his blows made more damage than daniel best strikes his power was so great that the only way that daniel defeated him was with "The drum" because daniel was about of 1 or 2 strikes to be killed, chozen is on another league compared to kreese and also he can fuck up johnny with a little struggle, without miyagi and sato, i think chozen is now the most powerful and skilled karate fighter in whole series

He is the Miyagi of this series now. wise and Dangerous he can actually kill someone if he had to. Thats what Mr Miyagi knew when Daniel fought him in karate kid 2

Yeah and now Daniel is learning how to do Chi-blocking like Ty Lee, LOL!

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I took away your fire bending. You can’t use it to hurt or threaten anyone else, ever again.

If I hadn't read Art of War a shitload of times, I would've sworn that was a Sun Tzu quote.

@@michaelfortenberry5735 Wise words anyhow.

Like if a man cannot stand he can not fight....

@@mitchhedberg4415 Absolutely.

@@menzerroku4708 oh you’re hard

1. Daniel is not too proud to ask and acknowledging he still needs to learn 2. Chozen is honored to be a teacher to a former adversary

@@fuzean1 He also knew that what Daniel told him about the two of them being basically karate cousins was the truth and this was his way of making up for the trouble he'd caused Daniel and Mr. Miyagi in the past. I truly believe even when he took the scroll from him and said foreigners couldn't have Miyagi secrets, he had every intention of giving it to Daniel. After he earned it.

Agreed!

Great acting, great writing respect to the lore. Karate Kid 2, Sato told Miyagi “ your student has become my teacher” 30 years later, Sato’s student becomes Daniel’s teacher. Just full circle

@@fuzean1 I think that is how to best describe it. Both were more than capable of humbling themselves & i love that.

Best thing about this, it shows that you can still learn new things no matter how old you get.

Any rational person would!

@@tamhaswoods9056 No matter if your master was your enemy! Everyone can redeem themselves by maturing!

Say it like you want to, it's a great episode! A long journey from being the most spoiled colossal asshole to being a Miyagi level honorable man! There needs to be a spin-off to this!

@@texasrockshillcountry6574 That would be a wonderful addition to the Miyagiverse

*roll credits*

Wtf lol

good plot twist

If I read this before watching, I would be crying.

@@universalgatorade4736 no

It almost seems like the real Miyagi-Do technique is akeen to the "Assasin's Fist" technique that Street Fighter's Akuma and Gouken learned from their father/master... mr Miyagi chose to eradicate the deadly part of the art away from it like Gouken while Sato embraced it and passed it towards his nephew

@@Nostalgicguy2242 That is a great way to look at it. I'm a huge fan of Street Fighter

@@MasterChing91 is he the same Chozen from the karate kid 2

@@mehchocolate1257 yes he is

@@MasterChing91 o.o jeez 😂 😂

Chosen is Zuko 2.0 of there series: He protec He attack The most important He got his honor back!

By showing honor too and enemy is by Let him live Or Let him die

@@ДинараАппазова I was about to say that

Awesome episode to a terrific series

I never saw it that way! That's a cool perspective. Check out my Cobra Kai season 3 spoiler review and rant. Let me know what you think =) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QomFimzOQps.html

I have an uncle who was in the Vietnam War and said that everyday he always thought about the day when his comrades pushed him out of a helicopter in order to save him and the words they said which are "you're still young and have a family so you should jump off." Then they threw him out before they started shooting off the enemies in order to distract them from killing him which ended up them getting killed. He said that he remembered that day like it was yesterday in his head.

@@ringofdreal1374 war is something else man..

@@ringofdreal1374 your uncle could only repay that by having a life worth living then.

@@ringofdreal1374 yikes...

Fighting for the SOUL OF THE VALLEY!

I LOVED that he trolled the same still 😂

He even put down the glass of water the same way (strongly and aggressively) like he did in KK2 in at the dance before he got into the fight with Daniel to try to get the money back Daniel had won in the bet....

'Spearing him'? LOL! You meant 'sparing him'. It was Chozen who was trying to spear people back in the 80s.

He'll return in season 5, its confirmed

@@tylerchatman67 What season 5 is coming 2034-2024

@@tylerchatman67 wait actually?

Just finished season 4, season 5 is gonna be epic

Tbh chosen was better than him when they was younger too

@@gjjijji Nah he better then him now but not when he was young.

@@ethankleinman1067 he’s better younger and older Daniel is a terrible fighter

@@gjjijji He may very well have been. He was certainly more athletic. But karate is 60% mental and all throughout Karate Kid 2, Chozen proved he was his own worst enemy... His arrogance and aggressiveness was such a thin facade covering deep insecurity and the typhoon sorta hammered home his cowardice.

@@gjjijji Chozen is a life student while Daniel started in his teens. Chozen was a legit Black Belt while Daniel would only legitimately be Yellow Belt (or Orange if you want to be generous) so ofcourse Daniel is no match for him. Plus Chozen kept up his training and started teaching it as well. Daniel only got back into training because Johnny brought back Cobra-Kai.

Chozen was literally like a video game character in the 2nd film. "My entire journey, a lie. My pride and honor have been insulted and used against me. Sensai warned me not to join the path of betrayal, the boy has led me astray from my teachings. If sensai is not the bad guy, then DANIEL-SAN IS!!!" But now, he saw the wrong in his ways and chose to find the way of true honor.

True, but only if you are genuine about it (ie. Kreese).

I agree. This was my favorite character arc of the season. I loved to see chozen regain his honor and have a chance to teach Daniel and have them depart amicably. This was such a great addition to the show.

I think Daniel asking him to teach him meant a lot since it game him a chance to prove and redeem himself to himself

Someone should tell those mma guys that. Till this day, there has been nothing more disgraceful to the martial arts than the arrogance and immaturity of Ronda Rousey. And many others but her name was the most famous.

It's a good philosophy for life, really. It also subtly shows us that the philosophies of Johnny AND Daniel are both correct: one should only be fierce in defense, but defense has many aspects to it and it's not about being passive all the time. The writing in this show is just absurdly good.

@@jakobfel2 As a boxer, I used something similar. When you throw a punch you have to rotate your hips (when throwing a straight right hand, a hook or an uppercut). The boxers who I've faced that use their hooks a lot. I always tended to target their hips because it's not below the belt. They insisted on war and by disabling their hips (for the fight), I took away their ability to wage it :)

@@rfj1156 Very nice! I think that strategy is also an effective one because typically, an enemy thinks you're going to come at them with equal or greater ferocity but if you do something unexpected, they won't have time to compensate before they're incapacitated haha

@@jakobfel2 yeah totally. I hope one day I'll be the champ :D

@@rfj1156 Best of luck!

Yeah Chozen is next level. If hes not right at Miyagi level then hes the closest anyone will ever get. If he goes all out it's pretty much game over for Silver and Barnes.

Well the legal system is kicking kreese ass right now. Lol

@@ace9924 um….have you watched the ending? He is in prison rn. Sliver’s Ass is what should be kicked

@@raddledfluffy6077 lol what do you think I'm saying? I'm just saying that kreese is out of the fight. Chozen is gonna kick silvers ass

Silver and Kreese merely adopted Karate. Chozen was born in it, molded by it, he didn't know peace until he was already a man

well at the time he was bad, he had grow up and become a much better man

NO, I GET DRINKS I DON't DRINK XD XD XD XD XD XD

really, its not like they made it that way for a reason :]

@@Alcool53 If I compliment the writing, don't I simultaneously acknowledge that they intentionally made Chozen likable? I mean, it possible, but hardly likely that someone accidentally wrote something, and that the producers accidentally shot the scenes while accidentally adding them to the final cut.

@@Shykeful no shit, doesn't take a scientist to understand a show haha

*Cue cheery music and colorful confetti* :D

@@awesomeperrymexd7180 He gets it.

Im 85

@@fardinnouri2924 TOASTY!! 😄👍

@@squ4tmobile867 chill

This now exactly how it went in my head

I don’t think the convo would have been said in those exact words but the context is pretty spot on.

Kumiko: "Daniel-San is coming back to visit us!" Chozen: "I'm gonna get lost!" (Runs away into Typhoon) Well that was a disappointing reunion, but at least Daniel got to go shopping at the Gap store in Tomi Village. I wonder if there was a JC Penney in Tomi Village as well because "In Okinawa belt mean no need rope to hold up pants." -Miyagi

This is now cannon I don’t make the rules

Both: *laughs in Japanese*

Daniel was already in the verge of breaking through. He understood he is hot headed, and instead of fighting it, decided to keep up the pace and take it to the next level. He wants to remove any need of being hot-headed, by simply being the most prepared at any given situation. Jhonny got to the same conclusion by a different path, they both embraced their nature, and decided to be the best version of themselves, instead of someone else, hence, forming the super-dojo. This is perhaps the greatest teaching of the series. Doesn't matter how you learn it, but that you learn it, and what you do with it.

Well he got a second chance and earned back his honor thanks to Sato.

Chosen has shown how he could turn a horrible past and a humiliating defeat into a story of triumph! (Can we say "Spin-off"?!)

Yes like Thor in his first movie

Masters* journey.

*cough* mandalorian

Well, Star Wars did fine until they didn’t have a plan. Or, if they were going to do it more by random, they just needed more time to think about each idea on each film to see if it can fit a good road map.

Facts. Cobra Kai was supposed to be at a disadvantage as well since the franchise was just one of those cheesy 80s sports movies. It barely has a lore compared to Star Wars. But the creators of CK overcame that disadvantage and made something great not just for the old fans but the new ones as well. Really love this show and its writing

As a heavy star wars fan. I totally agree with this. Respect the crew of the Karate Kid trilogy by honoring the storylines and continue with it's flow and good arc. Really mega props to the directors, procedures, casting directors for making Corba Kai like an actual continuation story telling series!!!🙏🙏👍

@@mercy8348 He was talking about the sequels, the Mandalorian is a diferent thing and they pretty much respect the fan favorites (LUKE, AHSOKA AND BOBA FETT)

They’ve already started filming it my guy

We do this to WinnieTheFlu and the ChiCom bastards by not buying their craps.

I liked that line but my favorite here was “Defense takes on many forms”

Film season 4. And then SEND IT TO THE INTERNET!!!

Just like when Aang took away Ozai's bending.

Well besides Miyagi, but he isn’t alive though.

I'm totally agree. Now he is the new Master Myagi ❤️

Kuwabara Kuwabara!

It would be so if they had Chozen and Kreese fighting each other. And as good as Chozen is he would totally destroy Kreese.

Let's not forget that he was the only person to ever land a hit on Mr. Miyagi

Absolutely HAHAHA

Well the thing I like about acts like this is in order to make a spectacular performance, you have to invoke a little truth into it. For example when he said "I waited a long time for this." that was the truth, he waited a long time to psyche Daniel like Daniel did him. That said, it makes sense why he'd act hostile to Daniel at first. For starters, I believe he was savvy enough to know that Daniel was still mad at him for his actions. So naturally if he were to show up friendly, he wouldn't have believed him off the get go. The sparring and teaching as well as the joke, were meant to ease Daniel into the idea that he has changed after all. Second, in Part II when he first met Daniel and Miyagi, he did act friendly to them, but it was a ploy to get them alone so Sato could confront Miyagi. Naturally if he acted like that again Daniel would thought he was tricking him right away. Which he was. Just not in the way Daniel expected.

Its hard to leave old habits behind

@@Shanethefilmmaker that's actually very detailed (I wasn't expecting that), but yup, long-story short, there's a certain history that cold back up the trick.

I like that Chozen showed his comical side to Daniel like we see in KK part 2, but it's out of a sense of camaraderie instead of mean spirit.

Good scene. Too much stupid swearing in the comments section.

If Miyagi was still there he'll be proud of their friendship

For me, Miguel conquering his doubts and shortcomings to regain the ability to kick and knock out Kyler was the best

"Daniel learning from Chozen is the best part of this season" - That's actually a tough one. My personal favorite was the ending where 'Eagle Fang' merges with 'Miyagi Do'. But Chozen's redemption definitely is a good conclusion to the enmity in Karate Kid 2.

That's true he's easily the most redeemed villain in this series. If I'm being honest though I never really disliked him in Karate Kid 2 either. Sure he was a bully and sure he had a very twisted version of honor but it sounds like most of the corruption came from his uncle. If Sato and Miyagi had made up them Chozen and Daniel probably could have been friends. If Daniel would let go of the anger he has towards Johnny then they could probably become friends like Chozen and Daniel currently are. Although Johnny would also need to let go of his grudge too though. The only kid villain who I feel could not be redeemed is Mike Barnes. That guy was easily the worst of the three he was like a more experienced version of Dutch. I really hope he returns in season 5.

@@matthewcrispinwordofGod Johnny Lawrence is also redeemed.

Mike Barnes?

really, no one else watched the show

@@Alcool53 No need to be an ass about it, that's even more pointless.

When miyagi jumped into Daniel’s beatdown, that wasn’t defensive at all. Lol

@@midnightfury4584 i think that miyagi never starts the fight, always hits after someone tries to hit him

Very cool discussion! If the writers Schlossberg etc. are smart (and i am sure they are), i see only following scenario in the future: After Silver and Barnes team up with Kreese, Johnny and Daniel are outmatched. Then its 3 vs 2, not chance for the 2. If the writers are not smart, they bring Johnny´s buddy Bobby (the "priest") to help them. Otherwise IT HAS TO BE CHOZEN! I see it coming: Daniel and Johnny getting beat up by Kreese, Silver and Barnes, and Daniel gives Chozen a call to come to LA to help them and Miyiago Do to survive in America. Chozen comes over, and teaches the kids in Daniel´s garden not just the defensive, peasfull Miyagi Do style, but also the one he taught to Daniel. And later we gonna see something like: 1) Johnny vs. Kreese: This match has to come since Cobra Kai was written for the Johnny character primary. To get his son back he has to beat Kreese once and for all. 2) Daniel vs Barnes: Mike is still so mad at him since he lost to a cheap Kata, he was beating Daniel with ease before. Remember he was the toughest of all of Daniel´s opponents. When Daniel hit Chozen and Johnny they were hurt by it, but Barnes took all of Daniel´s shots and just eated them up without being hurt. So Barnes wants to kick Daniel´s ass in a street fight, and Daniel can only win beacuse of the style Chozen taught him. 3) Chozen vs. Silver: Silver is BY FAR the best and most dangerous of all the Cobra Kai fighters. Kreese was defated by Miyagi with ease, but even Silver could not land a blow on Miyagi, he gave him a better fight and was able to stand longer. Silva would eat Johnny and Barnes for breakfast. Silver from what we know HATES all oriental/asien people, dont matter if they are from Vietnam, Japan or China. And fight Nr. 3 would be THE BEST FIGHTER OF COBRA KAI vs THE BEST FIGHTER OF MIYAGO DO (Sato and Miyagi are gone), and Chozen would of course show Silver that ORIGINAL Karate from Okinawa is more offective as this AMERICAN Karate by Miyagi Do. Your thoughts about that?

Fr

the idea of a passive martial art is foolish the word "martial" itself means something appropriate to war,the reason why martial arts like aikido fail,is because sometimes you should not have compassion for the enemy,you should strike them down till your hand is painted in their blood

@@aestheticswim3397 no I disagree, any martial arts is for sked defense. Yes sometimes you have to finish them before they finish you however you must mentally win before you can win phisically

Johnny would love to be chozen's student.

Agreed along with how it compliments Johnny teaching the concept of sometimes you have to show no mercy in order to protect yourself and those you care about when given no options left.

thy is your profile pic a bot?

Yeah, I think it was all an act from the moment he met Daniel again to the nose honking. After that the real Chozen came out. The man his is today. He psyched Daniel big time! lol Love it! :D

DJ Bowman I think so too. Just a beautiful scene.

"The look on your face 😧😧😧" 😂😂😂 loved it!!!!!!!!

He waited over 30 years to do that honk lol

Maybe he knew that Daniel was a hothead, and purposely didn't teach him the secret teachings in a way to help him find balance

@@ronjobimusic This is exactly what Chozen meant when he told Daniel that maybe Mr. Miyagi thought he wasn’t ready to learn the secrets he was showing him. He probably thought that Daniel would use the full teachings for all the wrong reasons

And he did, He used the pressure point technique in a karate match. Mr Miyagi would be disappointed in Daniel. Maybe even disown him as a student

@@menzerroku4708 agreed. He used the technique unethically. One thing I hope the show eventually addresses is the fact that Daniel is a moral busy body and a provocateur. He thinks that he is some kind of white knight on a quest to do good at all times, but just like Johnny says he has a problem leaving well enough alone when it comes to things that are none of his business. He needs to have a major comeuppance as a character, and hopefully Chozen helps him address that since he has already come of age, so to speak

@@menzerroku4708 Yeah he shouldn't have to use it when he fought with Johnny. But he was right when he use it with Kress.

Yup, just like Miyagi and Sato... Plus, it all came back to Miyagi-Family karaté. I'm impressed with these development arcs. This is like a bomb-ass anime arc (no fillers).

AND...Chozens lessons end up saving Daniel (and Johnny’s life)

People can change. If they desire it. Chozen clearly wanted to change and he did.

I knew there had to be that other side of Miyagi do karate, it was only a matter of time before it decided to show itself.

Very true but I think the films did hint that Miyagi, was holding back many times. He got the upper hand at Kreese and terry silver, if he wanted to kill he most def could have. It’s just as Chozen said something Miyagi didn’t want to teach Daniel, either to protect or shield him from what his Karate is capable of.

Stolen

Miyagi wouldn’t have to pick up the soap. He’d murder everyone in the yard.

BEST.COMMENT.EVER.

Hahaha lololol

Hilarious comment aside, as a kid I never noticed how absolutely sociopathic Daniel's line of questioning was in that moment. Geez, and that little doozy didn't even make it into the "Daniel is the Real Bully" video that I kind of suspect was the kindling that re-ignited this whole glorious 30+ years later direct sequel series.

Johnny will always be badass. I think he can go the distance with Barnes and Silver.

Not sure he would be able to counter it if Chozen was the one doing it to him.

@@RoyDallass Most probably he couldnt counter it. Daniel was confused when Johnny suddenly said "What the hell man?", lost his focus for 1-2 seconds and became overconfident. Then Johnny jumped in and took him to the floor. Chozen would stayed focus all the time...besides all rivality Johnny and Daniel are friends, rivals but friends too. You cant fight 100% serious against someone you like

@@chrisbach1533 Yeah also Chozen has been training karate non-stop all his life while Johnny took a long break and has only recently gotten back into it.

@@RoyDallass I don't see why he couldn't, it's the exact same technique Daniel used.

Talk about reverse..

There is no such thing as a bad student just bad teachers. Kreese's teacher his commander was an asshole but Chozens teachers were Miyagi Ancestors. I did not exactly get who they were but they were good as Mr Miyagi.

Jesus, has it been that long?

If it works.......

@Godmachine 999 Arnold would.

Actually it was 1985.

@@ir4355 86

😂

Especially during the pandemic and touching someone’s nose 😂🤣

Alexis Rose move

Boogers fall out

*FATALITY*

And still says "Honk" lol

Honk

Chosen, no! *Kills Daniel. Takes over car dealership. Marries wife*

His uncle Sato would be proud

@Eric Santana Just like Kumiko said that Chozen is a changed person, something tells me that after Chozen lost the death match against Daniel he first passed out and when he woke up he became a changed person and he apologized to Kumiko and maybe he was also going to apologize to Daniel but unfortunately, Daniel and Mr. Miyagi must have caught the next flight at night back to California and with Daniel returning to Okinawa, that gave Kumiko the opportunity to call Chozen to talk to Daniel.

@@kleimbach77 most people confess their sins to God and find peace and most people confess to their family and friends and make peace. As long as you confess to either family, friends or God or all then you will be at peace and so will they when all is forgiven and in time you change for God, and it creates a whole new life for you and your family even your own family and friends. Confess + Honesty × changing habits × Faithfulness × daily conversation or prayer or both to God = Peace and possible acceptance to Heaven but remember only you yourself will be at peace with God. Believe me change yourself and your greatest reward is Entering Heaven. Would you prefer 100 years with faith and hardship on earth or live peacefully and eternally in Heaven? But live life to the fullest all they way until God calls you home. Their is still hope for every soul I believe that.

Me too. I’m glad he loosened up as he aged and became more awesome.

@@afriendofbean Well, they covered it in that episode. Chozen was still an angry young guy after the fight, but Sato refused to give up on him and taught him the right way. Chozen's redemption is as much Sato's redemption as his because Sato had been angry for 40 years and it was his fault Chozen turned out like that.

Honk!!!! Ha ha ha ha !!!!!!

Well it didn't save Daniels life since Daniel is still a karate master but it definitely helped with his fight against Kreese since Kreese was gonna kill Daniel.

We will see him in Season 4, there will come a time when everyone is called together to fight the Kreese-Silver war machine.

@@redoz9768 that’s That’s true coming to war?

Just like Miyagi himself

Just like KENOBI!

Like obi wan

@@logancunningham4261 Exactly

Which is why I hope they bring him back in season 5. He would have a lot to teach Daniel and Johnny's students. Plus, he could be the new Miyagi to Daniel.

@@doublej6830 fuck yea he’s gonna be back for it

@@doublej6830 this aged really well

Thats EXACTLY what i said!

@Dane Micele That's right. Chozen is probably now the new Mr. Miyagi.

Like the WWF back in the 80's!

@@danlc95 Well let me tell you something brother!

What do you mean “ever”?. If it’s the best scene of the season, it can’t be dethroned. If there is a better scene in a later season, it still wouldn’t dethrone this scene that you are claiming to be the best of the season because it would be a different season.

@@stormt1mbre174 I think it's just a grammatical error from him x) People make mistake.

Nope. Hawk beating the crap out of the fat bully was epic.

@@nasmatique I guess you do too.

@@stormt1mbre174 Yup

and kreese

Lotta truth

I disagree, Johnny turned himself around in the first season.

The Chozen One

@@H.K.5, he improved, but is nowhere near Chozen. Neither as a fighter nor as a person.

Same 😂😂

Hawwwnk!

man, that must've felt really fucking good. he had been holding on to that for years and to let it out. oh man, that is tranquilo.

I found both "honk" and laugh" very lame

quick, nobody give​ @call of duty chile the attention it wants other than what it's getting now

@Erik Lugli The generals who could pull this are absolutely the best in my opinion. Winning without blood shed of thousand or a good-old 1v1 only if it's personal.

@@inspecthergadget4503 If a general takes away the ability to wage war of their enemies, that’d mean bombing their weapons/vehicle manufacturers, lol. There’s blood shed no matter what.

The first two movies are understandable seeing how he was new to everything. The third movie ruined his development by trying to be like the first movie.

@@INFERNO95 yea, it's like he regressed in the 3rd movie🤔. I never really understood it (I mean even friggin Jessica was outrunning him in the scene where they are jogging) and he just seemed whinier and more insecure than he did in the first 3 movies. I just didn't buy that Barnes was so skilled that he was able to break Daniel's spirit the way he did. He had just fought in a friggin death match against one of the deadliest karate fighters in all of Okinawa!!

@@afranks8566 That what I'm talking about. How do you go from surviving a life or death battle against a deadly martial artist to being scared of a loser thug who is very stupid? That was same plot of the first movie. They bought the psycho teacher from the first movie who was beaten in the first five minutes in the second movie? Why? He a joke now he no longer a threat. I don't know what they were thinking whit the 3rd movie but it ruined what could have been a great trilogy. Think god for cobra Kai.

@@INFERNO95 LOL, Mike wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer that's for sure. He sounded like one of the meathead jocks from my high school😆. And how are you a karate black belt and yet you get confused by kata? Did his training just solely consist of hitting heavybags, smashing bricks and beating up guys like Dennis in sparring?!!🤔

@@INFERNO95 it was also funny how everytime he tried to attack Miyagi he would always try throwing the same reverse punch and Miyagi would just ragdoll him aside like nothing!! It's like, dude you might want to try a different method of attack. Dummy!😂

True

That's the mf truth

I always thought at the time Mike Barnes could have him. Don't know about now though.

He would beat Kreese in an instant im sure without even trying

@@Sgtturtle22 of course. Daniel beat his ass

Chozens "honk" was better than Daniel's. If I recall correctly, Daniel's was more like "huHhhhh"

Can’t wait to see Daniel teach his students proper nose honking technique.

Yeah, but Miyagi’s was so much subtler. Like, I didn’t even realize he made the sound himself.

In the german synch Daniel and Mr Miyagi say: duuud😂😂😂

good for you

Doesn't sound like your feelings are very mixed. They sound all positive lol

Chozen has changed for the better and was just having a bit of fun at Daniel's expense - while teaching him. I thought this scene was perfect.

@@fireburn95rs no one cares

@@Alcool53 did you forget your pill today Alf?

Depends if Julie also continued her karate. That would leave only 3.

@@Lord_Bibulous they will never touch that movie.

@@evacody1249 The creators said that the movie is acknowledged as part of the history. They may not touch it. But the option is there.

@@Lord_Bibulous Imagine Daniel asking her to help train Sam.

Also this is one of the few times we see Daniel fight aggressively.

Nah.

@@jamman9569 yeah

Chozen > Daniel, Jonny

Dude was training military as a teenager of course hes badass

@@juanmanuel7501 Nah. Did we just forget he was a lil bitch in his first appearance? Also yknow one match doesn't equate to him being the strongest.

I never thought of that, but totally true.

they should just start tea bagging people in s4

@@Alcool53 Miguel beats Robby "you can thank your dad for that ass whoopin" and starts tea bagging him

Lel

@@Alcool53 LMFAOOOOO

Let's wait for Mike Barnes

Pretty sure that was the entire point of the series. To give the other side their perspective.

@Milan Deshmukh Daniel is too is centered on those 2 characters

Daniel will always be better

I know, right?

I agree, at this point, being the only remaining (so far as we know) Okinawan master left of Miyagi-Do it makes sense that Chozen would have deeper secrets to the style that Mr. Miyagi never got around to teaching Daniel before his death. So it's fitting that Chozen be the one to continue that training. I love this! And that "honk" got you back moment was PRICELESS!

Nope

@@jasonstinebaugh8447 nope

@@masonwright7700 how so?

Heck Chozen is an actual Karate instructor so he’s indeed a grandmaster

definitely, as this scene has shown, Chozen was just playing around with Daniel, but still dominated him very badly.

Honestly I dont think he is stronger than miyagi or sato because chozen had a rough time with daniel until he used pressure points. Daniel is at least the equivalent to kreese when kreese was younger and miyagi took kreese out in like two seconds. And Sato is the equivalent to miyagi.

@@TheCucibleOfGreece rough time? are we watching the same fight? he was messing around with daniel and still dominated him everywhere.

@@metsrus Is that all you read of my comment.

@@metsrus He dominated the fight but daniel got a few good hits on him.

the writers especially seem to pay some real attention to detail, even nuances i never caught onto. and i must have watched that franchise to death.

This isn’t really a reboot. It’s a continuation of the same canon.

@@LouisOlenickTrombone Sequels might have been a better choice of words.

this isn't a reboot at all

Agreed, The Karate Kid reboot starring Jaden Smith and Jackie Chan was a hot pile of bull faeces. But Cobra Kai is a sequel, not a reboot.

You mean reformed villain. Its great to see him and all but he did at one point try to murder two people.

If the writers Schlossberg etc. are smart (and i am sure they are), i see only following scenario in the future: After Silver and Barnes team up with Kreese, Johnny and Daniel are outmatched. Then its 3 vs 2, not chance for the 2. If the writers are not smart, they bring Johnny´s buddy Bobby (the "priest") to help them. Otherwise IT HAS TO BE CHOZEN! I see it coming: Daniel and Johnny getting beat up by Kreese, Silver and Barnes, and Daniel gives Chozen a call to come to LA to help them and Miyiago Do to survive in America. Chozen comes over, and teaches the kids in Daniel´s garden not just the defensive, peasfull Miyagi Do style, but also the one he taught to Daniel. And later we gonna see something like: 1) Johnny vs. Kreese: This match has to come since Cobra Kai was written for the Johnny character primary. To get his son back he has to beat Kreese once and for all. 2) Daniel vs Barnes: Mike is still so mad at him since he lost to a cheap Kata, he was beating Daniel with ease before. Remember he was the toughest of all of Daniel´s opponents. When Daniel hit Chozen and Johnny they were hurt by it, but Barnes took all of Daniel´s shots and just eated them up without being hurt. So Barnes wants to kick Daniel´s ass in a street fight, and Daniel can only win beacuse of the style Chozen taught him. 3) Chozen vs. Silver: Silver is BY FAR the best and most dangerous of all the Cobra Kai fighters. Kreese was defated by Miyagi with ease, but even Silver could not land a blow on Miyagi, he gave him a better fight and was able to stand longer. Silva would eat Johnny and Barnes for breakfast. Silver from what we know HATES all oriental/asien people, dont matter if they are from Vietnam, Japan or China. And fight Nr. 3 would be THE BEST FIGHTER OF COBRA KAI vs THE BEST FIGHTER OF MIYAGO DO (Sato and Miyagi are gone), and Chozen would of course show Silver that ORIGINAL Karate from Okinawa is more offective as this AMERICAN Karate by Miyagi Do. Your thoughts about that?

@@jamman9569 No I don’t. Honestly, he may have tried to kill Daniel and Kumiko, but his feud with Daniel was actually his feud against Miyagi, because his teacher Sato put that shit into his head. The real villain was Sato, who at the last minute changed his ideals, but it was too late for Chozu, because his ‘honour’ was hurt and he had been emotionally wounded by Sato later on. He wasn’t a villain, he was a victim. Him and Johnny are really too similar, Chozen was just the steroids version of him, keep in mind Johnny at one point almost sent Daniel to the hospital had it not been for Mr. Miyagi, he was beat up pretty bad. So, I wouldn’t call either villains, they’re anti-heroes. But they’re now both heroes. Mike Barnes, now that guys a villain, he needed no one to put shit into his head, he was already some sort of a hit man karate champion or something before being hired by Silver (unless we find out otherwise later in Cobra Chai). Where people are coming from that matters. Both Chozen and Johnny looked up to their teachers, they never had Malice by nature, their teachers corrupted them. Kreese and Sato were villains. Actually, who really is a villain in these series ? Kreese has been through absolute shit because of his teacher and War, Sato was a child holding a grudge, he reformed, Chozen needed to be guided properly. Evidence told by Chozen who was given a second chance by Sato to prove himself. If there’s one thing all of us should have learned by now throughout the whole series with Cobra Chai ☕️, there is no Villain, just anti-heroes. Why ? Because until you face the anger and rage in your heart, you can never truly stand up for others. We’ve seen this with Hawk, Johnny, Chozen 😍, we’ll see it soon enough with Kreese, Tory, and many more. This is a series of evolution, in humanity and spirit, not change. No plot is just as simple as Hero vs. Villain.

@@NDoraku Excellent concepts man. And yeah most of them are bound to happen. It’s just that, for Silver, I don’t think he’s stronger than Kreese. Yes Kreese didn’t take much time to hit ground, but I don’t think we can truly decide who’s stronger based on one fight. I just feel we’ve seen everything that Kreese has been through, he’s far more experienced, However ! We cannot conclude this, we need to see some more of Silver’s backstory to try and hypothesise who’s really stronger. I think Silver looks up to Kreese and honestly though they were in the same squadron, Kreese feels more senior and tougher compared to Silver. We just have to see. This is not to say Silver’s weak. Just put it this way, Silver’s a cougar and Kreese is a Lion. I would really really want Chozen to come back, and I want him to go full rage Chozen, I mean years later the man is so jacked, he could body Daniel. Actually any one could haha. I’m scared Of one thing, I don’t want the writers to try and make things interesting to a point where Kreese fatally wounds Johnny by stabbing him behind the back or something, I want them to knock each other out in a fair fight. As for Daniel vs Barnes, it has to happen, no question. And maybe, yes, it’s a very strong possibility, Chozen is in Miyagi’s place to knock Silver out. I want to go off on a limb here and say Miguel and Robbie become best friends and Tory and Sam go lesbian. 🤣🤣🤣

@@here2029 Of course its only a speculation, i cant say for sure if Silver or Kreese is in a 1-1 fight the better one. I just took the fight vs Miyagi as standart, and Silver was able to look better against him. Kreese was defeated by Miyagi twice, and both times he got totally humilated. So i thought maybe Silver is at least in 1-1 fighting a little more skilled then Kreese. But of course i can be wrong. After watching the S3 again i have some other theories: 1) Is Tory maybe Kreese´s granddaughter? I know Kreese got told in Vietnam the girl he loved was dead...but maybe she was pregant from him without telling him, and they were able to cut out there baby out of her belly and the baby survived...and this was Tory´s mother. Remember when Kreese stands in front of Tory´s door, her mother asked "Who is this", and she replied "No one mom", and then she goes outside, so Kreese and her mom couldnt see each other. And that thug who wants to blackmail Tory gets confronted by Kreese, and he asks him: "Who are you? Her grandfather?" 2) Is Kreese somehow a good guy in the end? The flashbacks shows they try to give him a little credit, and show why he became so strange, he only believes in weak or strong, not in good or bad. Maybe someone has to hit the right nerve on him to make him good again? Remember in Krarate Kid 3 Silver told Miyagi that Kreese was not always like they know him. The war had changed him so negative. + Daniel´s wife calls him Rambo...and we all know Martin Kove didnt just have a part in "First Blood 2", but Rambo also had a damage from the Vietnam war. 3) and this would be the most creepy: Is Kreese the biologigal father of Johnny? Johnny only had a stepfather. And when Robby, Johny and Kreese are togehter in the Cobra Kai dojo, Kreese says: "Now there are 3 generations of Cobra Kai in this dojo as it should be". Just imagine if Kreese had an affair with Johnny´s mother in the 60s and Johnny was the result of hit... Maybe this was the reason why Kreese: a) gave Johnny so many chances to come back to Cobra Kai (because he is his son?) b) always wanted Robby to join Cobra Kai (because he is his grandson?) Especially if 3 is true, Johnny would freak out completely.

I tweeted that to Jon Hurwitz after he posted praising Yuji's performance and he liked the tweet. I don't know for sure if he will be in Season 4 but I think the Big 3 are open to it.

@@ChrisC11291980 Good man.

I think Chozen will be back, especially if Terry Silver shows up in the final episode.

Not only does he need to be back, he needs to be in a pivotal role.

Johnny/Daniel/Chozen vs Kreese/Silver/Barnes? I'm all in.

He regained his honor and moved past his defeat. A true warrior's journey, a hero's journey.

I think that was the whole point!

@@dakentaijutsu2010 i really admire Japanise culture,history,martial arts,all that things what comes from there. It's so honest and straight what they are doin day by day there. I really do respeckt that kind of life wery much.