Code Geass Episodes 3 & 4 Reaction & Discussion! 

I (Josh) was pretty hard on Suzaku during these episodes and I can't say for sure this early in the game if he deserved it 🤔

Also the old man at 26:43 was the one tasked to make his outfit/mask. You can blink and miss it.

You missed the "Orange" part, Lelouch Says "i know everything about Orange if you kill me that will be public"

I love how the core of this series is basically a debate between Lelouch and Suzaku's ideologies. Both clearly know and understand that the current system is the problem and must be changed but they believe it should be done in different ways. Lelouch believes that the system is so broken at this point that is pretty much unsalavagbale so it has to be toppled and then rebuilt from the ground up. Suzaku believes that change the system has the resources and abilitity to change from within. Both however fully know and recongize that either option can only occur with the support of the masses and that it has to revolve around a symbol.

this has to be the smartest reaction vids to code geass 10/10 episode discussions ps: code geass aged like fine wine. i remember really liking it as a kid but watching it as an adult its sooo much better

Yeah Lelouch is a full Britannian, and is royalty. He was in Japan at the time the war broke out. Thing is, Suzaku's ideals only work if a person in power agrees with him, but Britannians are taught to discriminate against numbers. It's a nation that is based on supremacist ideas, also there's other things that make it harder to peacefully change the nation. But I won't get into spoilers, there's some things that happen later that make some things much clearer.

Just a few things for some context: -Britannia is an absolute monarchy so you have the Nobility and the normal britannian citizens who obey them. -Numbers (like the japanese and many others people who were conquered) are the slaves basically. -Britanna controls a good 1/3 of the world (all of america, parts of africa and Japan) -The rest of the world is also quite different.

Suzaku is an idealist, Lelouch is a pragmatist. Lelouch (imo rightfully) understands that the only thing an empire understands is force, whereas Suzaku thinks he can win hearts and minds by being one of the "good ones". As Suzaku said, Zero believes the ends justify the means, and Suzaku feels the means must align with the ends. One of the things I'll really praise Geass for is being one of the few shows that recognizes (especially for the time it came out) that rebellions are rarely coherent, but rather a variety of factions that want independence for different ideological reasons and with varying means of action. I love the inclusion of the JLF vs Ohgi's rag-tag team, vs what Lelouch wants, vs what Suzaku thinks.

Not sure they will understand all the "Orange" bullying afterward since the talked over that whole segment (they don't pause while discussing and they didn't had subtitles this time).

Lelouch and Light are nothing alike, at least in terms of personality. Light was always unhinged and evil, Near said that a normal person would stop using the death note the second a person died for real, while Light showed who he really was and started murdering people. Lelouch is more human than Light, he regrets his actions, he falters, he doubts about what he's doing and it its the right thing to do.

Lelouch pulling the big brain moves are my favourite parts of the show. The mech fights are also cool

Game of Thrones with Mechas😂😂😂 Y'all got me wanting to rewatch Code Geass

This anime is such a classic show that I've seen it numerous times and other channel's reactions, that I don't even bother clicking on reactions to this show anymore, but you guys have such GOOD discussions and debate with each other that it makes me enjoy the show in a different light. I honestly skip through the show just to watch your discussions. Please keep up the uploads. I don't even know your names yet lol

I think you both got a good grasp on the characters! I'm very excited to see your reactions over the course of things soon to come! I think Lawful Good is a good description for Suzaku, and there are other philosophical ideas that represent both Suzaku and Lelouch alike that get some good development as things go by

The Rebellion begins and Suzaku getting dunked on by Josh so hard was funny af to me lol plus yalls avatar art for this series is so sick

someone has probably said this but this show is dialogue heavy and u might miss alot if u talk over it, and i dont think people mind if you pause to express ur ideas. great reaction tho. keep it coming ❤

Probably the most important thing to keep in mind with Suzaku is that he doesn't want innocent people to suffer. To change the world for the better at the expense of even one innocent person is too high a cost. Like he said before leaving, if he didn't turn himself in, the 11's would suffer the consequences of his actions. Is he naive? Yes. But you also haven't learned everything about him, yet.

OH GOD YES!!! "He is like lawful good" That's EXACTLY IT! Maybe leaning toward lawful neutral. But honestly it's the first time I hear someone refer to Suzaku as a D&D alignment, but it's like exactly that. Suzaku is basically a paladin, and the dilemma between good and law IS what makes the character interesting. It doesn't make it less or dumb. There are actual people that do value honor, law etc...

Lets go more Code geass! LMAO I cant wait for some certain moments. Funriture gate gonna be fun : 👀

You missed the discussion about orange and some other details~ this show is very dialogue heavy so you may miss a lot

really love the long in-depth discussions! a lot of reactors these days just watch and then sign off after a few sentences at the end such as wow good episode, lets see what happens next

Great reaction! im really enjoying the discussion after every episode!🔥

Great commentary, love when ppl are doing more then just the reaction portion. I suggest to stop reading the titles of the episodes before you watch it bcuz there are major spoilers for some of them.

Yall made a great choice watching the dub. Also, I love how into it you both are!

Yalls discussions are Top Tier, you already reacting to two of my fav animes Gurren Lagann & Code Geass!! Big Ups!!

He's got the Light Yagami vibes

Great stuff. I'm really enjoying looking through the series again with such a different lens. ☕

A lot of people get confused when it comes to Suzaku Kururugi motivations. The whole point is he wants to be an example to Britania and other nations of working together instead of constantly fighting. In his mind if he can prove that Japanese people are capable of working with Britania they can have a better life. He wants to stop the fighting by being an example of cooperation. Its a flawed mindset to be sure. But is it anymore flawed than Lelouche's mindset of "Results at all cost"? A big part of the show I think is the question of what is the right way and the wrong way to inflict change. Do you do it from within via your deeds and example or do you do it by force with violence and rebellion? Neither are wrong and at the same time nether are right. If you do it via cooperation and deeds you need to hope that those at the top want to change and notice you. If you do it via violence and rebellion even if you win someone else ends up at the bottom. Say they take Japan back. What happens to all the Britannians living there? Maybe they become the oppressed and start their own rebellion. Thus the violence never stops. You need a bit of both styles to inflict lasting change You need people like Suzaku to help rally the populace to want change and you need people like Lelouche to inflict that change.

Code Geass likes to add minute details that you may not catch the first time through. Or you may not see it until the 2nd time or even the 5th time watching it. For example in Episode 3 Lelouch successfully geassed the wasp to get the other girls away from Kallen. If you pay attention you see them zoom into the wasp's head for a second and you can see the red glow around the eyes fade away.

Love this show. It's definitely one you remember for a long time especially if you bought the special edition blurays!

Next thing we know Josh is going to be wearing a red contact lens

the reason no-one recognizes Lelouch as zero is because the mask alters his voice so he sounds different. (you can kinda hear the effect it has when he talks) i think there is another reason but not sure if it is a spoiler or not so I'm not saying anymore love the reactions and the theory's u guy's are making

4:50 piloting a mecha is physically taxing activity. Good mecha pilots tend to be borderline superhumans. 6:30 the machine in the background is Mark 4, a British WWI tank.

Seeing u guys react to anime i have seen a long time a go brings a tear to my eye i love these series to gurren laggan to code geass i wonder what other animes u guys have instore but i know a few more good ones that dont get much appreciation

They don’t make’em like this anymore. Really raw..

All right, I’m going to say this as a caregiver it takes a lot of strength to be able to pick somebody up so to be able to pick up his sister. He has gotta have at least some good body mechanics and some strength there I said it.

Suzaku has his reasons, which would be revealed later, though ofc I can't force you to sympathize with him. I love the lady keeping the discussion balanced, or else the video would have very easily become just Suzaku bashing And by the way, if you want to hear a very distinct difference between Lelouch's daily voice and his Zero's voice, do check out the sub in your free time

pro tip/// always prepare to pause the video whenever som1 react or talking. you can rewind few seconds to listen da lines talking n watching is like watching 90% of da anime

The bees name was Jasper, rest in piece Jasper.

34:56 - The voice being the same is why sub is better, imo. In the original Japanese audio, he puts on a much more theatrical and noticeably different (but still obviously Lelouch) voice as Zero.

You say love triangle, its crazier than that...

7:41 ... mark this quote

I can’t wait for ya to really get into this show anybody who watches it loves it

Well, the dub Lulu and Zero cant hear the difference, but the original VA for Lulu is god like...

They didn't even bother to try the sub...

If anything, this series proves that revolution and change can only happen if someone in power, from the top, decide to change it. You need the help of the system to change it or destroy it. I feel like Suzaku's view is the most realistic because he knows it won't happen in one go, time if the key factor. Sure, it sucks that people will still suffer before it gets better. But war will cause serious hurt as well, if not more, because it's easier for a terrible system to raise when you can justify it by necessity.

Also would suggest considering Air Gear in the future which is a classic anime, its pretty fun to watch and funny moments

MFW no pizza hut logos on the boxes :( (pizza hut sponsored this anime, there was pizza hut logos EVERYWHERE, but this was edited out in later releases)

28:08 im glad someone else picked up on them intentionally acting like they were on britannia's side

They made some kinda close guesses on what will happen in the series. Hoping they do the side series to react to between the 2 seasons as well since it covers the story between them.

sometimes you talk over some important dialogue (like orange), you will be lost on some parts of next episodes. oh well

Word of....note. when you get to season 2; let everything sink in from the last episodes of season one. Things will become clear if you pay attention

45:33 how he could have easly done that? That wasnt possible at all

Why dont you try the sub, just for one episode

I’ll be back

Lelouch supporter here ❤

Wars produce change quickly but the cost is high and you may just lose. Trying to change stuff from within has fewer short term casualties but takes a long ass time and some things end up permanently skewed. During the course of workers and civil rights movements many fights were lost but as a result of those loses public opinion gradually shifted until they couldn't be stopped. Honestly if Suzaku was more pragmatic in his thinking (like how he mentioned they'd crack down on elevens if he didn't return) he'd have a lot more support. You've no doubt noticed how frustrating he can be sometimes. But yeah this show is great. So many little details makes subsequent watch throughs enjoyable.

Don't let people tell you which characters to like. The empire is also lying to Suzaku. Like the massacre in the first 2 episodes was the terrorist faults. So he is either willfully ignorant or is ignorant about it. With the Nobleman Jeremiah who let Suzaku go. It looks like you missed the part that Lelouch said "You wouldn't want them to learn of Orange, do you?" Then gave him the order to let him go. Thought you should know cause Orange gets mentioned a few times and that scene is why

There have been many peaceful revolutions. If you do not have an adequate military on your side then a peaceful approach is probably the most realistic. "Resisting" to only get your ppl killed and even more oppressed is not a good strategy. If you have no realistic shot at a violent overthrow then you are just shooting yourself in the foot. Lelouche was stagnant doing nothing for so long for a reason. He knew it was pointless. But now he has the power and that was the tipping point for him. His friend doesnt know Lelouche is an MC of an anime. He thinks its just some terrorist giving him bad advice. He would rather self sacrifice for relations to normalize and eventually the Japanese can be accepted. Britannia, tho is a monarchy, still has to respond to popular public sentiment. If the average Britanian hates what is happening to the Japanese then it makes it much harder for monarchy to allow it to continue.

Really like your reactions, would suggest you fix your playlists on the channel. You need to reverse the play order. Currently when you play an episode 3-4 reaction it auto plays the episode 1-2 reaction. Would make it easier for new watchers to binge your older reactions.

...The more and more I watched Code Geass and trust I watched it many times. I understand Suzaku he maybe foolish but at the same time under his view point more and more Not saying I would be siding with him but yea. He knows that the “System” is fucked but at the same time he believes that he can change it and help the (People/Japan aka 11’s)from the inside.

Too be fair in Suzaku his ideas aren’t unfounded people can achieve right through peace like the American civil rights movement or Ghandi but that would take a very long time and this is a work of fiction so that’s not going to happen

Yall must watch lain cuz it's from the same one who created NGE

Love your reaction to this show. However, try to pause whenever you want to comment on something, you end up missing what's said in the show

You seemed to miss a lot, so I recommend going back over what may have been talked over to make sure you got everything. :)

I loved your reaction and discussion after. But you need to be more careful you missed the whole „orange“ thing which will be very important later. Spoilers: Also it baffles me how some of your theories are true

Ninja maid is best maid, she is also somewhat like a mother for the two of them.

I prefer the sub more, but the dub is also good. The wild ride is just beginning!

43:50 I'm gonna go ahead and disagree here. Yes Suzaku's plan is an alternative, sure. The time frame however is SUPER unrealistic. You have people suffering in their own country and you just want them to sit back be patient as you spend X amount of years kissing a foreign governments cheeks in the hopes of them one day giving your people a say at the table. It could be argued that the only reason Suzaku's efforts were noticed at all by Britania thus far is because Lelouche exists otherwise he would've just been another nobody, cog in the system, hoping and failing to make change as an honorary britanian. Also from a real world stand point when you rise up against governments and try to point out corruption you're also unfortunately fighting against the indoctrinated citizens. Which once again backs the facts that although suzaku has a plan. No one is gonna wait on that nonsense when they can fight back.

Nice

i love how u choose the dub! great reaction!

Josh you are spot on when it comes to suzaku's character. He has good intentions but lacks the iq. He doesn't get any better🤦Love your reaction bro💪

34:44 shhh bro..... u cant even hear em talkin.... pause da damn anime for a sec

Why would you have an analysis discussion when the characters are talking instead of just hitting pause to talk?

Reading the episode titles is not a good idea. Down the line episode titles will turn into big spoilers.

I enjoy your reactions, but it would help to pause the show when discussing details since you may miss important points while the characters talk.

Cool. Dubs……still…

Oh you will hate suzaku until like the ending

sapakan nalang

This is my guilty pleasure anime. The writing can go all the way down to a 2/10 at times but the geass powers, characters, and political intrigue make it something special for me.

Oh and you'll grow to absolutely hate Nina. Uhhhg

Talk less. Pay attention.

Dub version 😭😭😭😭😭😭🤢🤢

God, I love watching you 2 theorize as someone who's seen the show.