Code Geass Season 2 was a HOT MESS 

Lmfao

attempted? lol

and he never tells a joke ever again

Thats in season 1

It was s boast with hyperbole, not a joke:

Yup.

Yup indeed

I was deciding on what to give s2 but after I watched the ending, it was a 10/10 for me

I remember Nux talking about how brilliant the ending was. I think he said something about its brilliance being in its ambiguity regarding Lelouch's ideology. Do you guys share the same thoughts?

@@thabokgwele5268 Yeah I agree. The ending works on so many levels. It ties all the themes and plot points in such a profound yet elegant way

reminds me of the scene from incredibles

Couldn't describe R2 any better.

And I loved it for it. 10/10

My issue with R2 was how confusing or poorly explained the Ragnarok Connection was. That shit had me feeling really lost just as the story was at its climax and reaching the conclusion. Also, why is it called "R2" ?

@@thabokgwele5268 yeah that is one of the points I agree with you, like I don't remember exactly what or how it was explained, I just remember me thinking "this kinda doesn't make any sense, does it?" And I guess it's called R2 because it's a play with the name? Lelouch of the Rebellion, R2=Rebellion 2? or sth like that maybe ^^

Noy how dare you but how could you I could argue about anything they said. Keeping toxicity away mention a point where you agree with them and we will calmly discuss it😊

Facts

@@abdullahalawt6537 yes I support you

@@NeverLadias thanks bro

@@tablekun5014 we're all about spitting facts here

Yeah I think I remember her warning him about that.

Okay yeah but it’s also pretty bullshit that it randomly activated RIGHT when Lelouch was saying “you know, if Icommanded you to massacre the Japanese you would do it”. There was no reason for him to specifically say that other than to continue the plot.

@@Doctor4077 I think you're both correct and incorrect here. Like, absolutely it comes across as a plot contrivance hail mary. But this is Euphie, arguably the most innocent person in this entire series who is striving for peace, companionship, and reuniting with the one she thought of as her childhood best friend/brother. Lelouch saying "lol imagine if I ordered you to kill all the Japanese, crazy right" is obviously insane, but he was also making a point (indirectly) about his powers. The idea of wanton murder is so against Euphie's core values that it can work as a joking over-exaggeration of what he could make her do: betray herself so thoroughly and completely that nothing is left. And, in an instance of incredibly cruel irony, that's exactly what happens.

Exactly, she knew the dangers of geass but Lelouch couldn’t stop

@@Doctor4077 the “joke” is a hyperbole, it’s saying the complete opposite to something, like Euphy who is a kind hearted person killing people

I respect the honesty 🙃

Well said. It’s my favorite anime I actually first watched it as an adult and watched it another time since then and I can still stick by giving both seasons a 10/10. I know they’re not perfect but in terms of how hyped I get from watching them, no other anime has quite reached that level. Is there anything that’s perfect anyway?

Same here bro.

Holy shit this is exactly how I feel about Code Geass. I've watched too much anime to count, but it was Code Geass that got me to love anime, and no anime has come close to what Code Geass done for me.

@@supersquillid2306 probably attack on titan

Lmao watch Attack on Titan you boomer

@@UnemploymentScrub23 Go watch more anime than SnK and JJK, you zoomer.

you all clowns watch logh

@@danaltamirano2546 It’s a joke chill. And CG is overrated that’s why I said that.

@@UnemploymentScrub23 so is aot

This hurts, i bet Next up is HXH

@@brub-eo1oj I hope so. HxH is overrated af.

@@thebluesoldier860 They are right m8 akame ga kill is terrible, code geas is good but it has his flaws.

@@MeatShovel Nah hxh is the best shonen by far

They didn't even rate them bad...

And there is Mao too

> A lot Lelouch first suffers trouble with his Geass earlier in that episode. Sure, we have Mao to foreshadow the concept, but the actual event of Lelouch losing control happened in one episode, so it comes as the writers suddenly implementing it after ignoring it for several episodes, rather than being a plot point with well-paced development. And also the part where he gives her the worst possible example.

@@AusSP No you are totally wrong. Don't forget that Lelouch made a contract with CC, a contract that at the time we didn't know. The change in faith and destiny are part o that world from a philosophical standpoint. The contract was that Lelouch had to kill CC. Geass just assured that Lelouche would take that path.

and that makes it more stupid.. why would lelouch says that if he was already warned by CC..

@@hommofroggy5727 None of that makes any sense. The Geass universe doesn't have any fate forcing events. And Lelouch never kills C.C., so that's double bullshit. Triple, actually. It can't be forcing Lelouch to kill C.C. if Lelouch never kills C.C., and C.C. made the same contract in the past, which also never happened.

@Football Icons CG sucks

Exactly I cant take this

Code geass S2 is boring and was random mess but then get a very good ending somehow , still an ok show at best

Season 2 was garbage...the ending saved it

@@kingdoom5022 the show is so over the top it just fucking works, i get how for some people it might be too much though.

exactly, like another thing, there is such thing as comic relief. That was the point of the school episodes, there were breathers from the tense rebellion

they don't get that. "TRASH TASTE". they already watch hundred or thousand of anime but still cannot get the character development episode. i wonder what is 10/10 for them.

not only that but also, there's the human side of lelouch not just the fighter and revolutionary

they seem to forget that even if how much lelouch wanted rebellion, he still is a healthy young college man

That's why the cat scene was stupid because that has something to do with the plot and it would been better if they just make it a filler ep not saying the whole thing is bad ok even though that was kinda stupid i still enjoyed that scene.....

The cliffhanger for R1 be like: ICHIGGOOOOOOOOOO SASSUUUUKKKEEEEEE

@@carlosfaro4008 then it becomes the ending of season 4 AOT

this is just factual

Yeah but there are tons of better works which don't get the credit they deserve and code Geass does.

@@Fraudkovic name one I wanna watch

@@anshumanmohapatra1634 watch monster really underrated. Also stuff like fate zero which is popular but isn't really talked about anymore. You got legend of the galactic heroes, gintama, parasyte the maxim . All goated shows.

@@Fraudkovic Im watching monster right now and legend of the galactic heroes and gintama are on my ptw list. I would say I like code geass a little less than fate/zero but theyre both in my top ten so I won't argue with that one however Parasyte was pretty mid in comparison, it's good but I didn't find it to be nearly as well written as fate/zero or enjoyable as Code Geass

*plays Witches Call* How could anyone forget....pain

@@Darkness19Z I did forget... But unfortunately... NOT ANYMORE

@@drs-fon-s6579 *Witches Call intensifies*

Oh god the flash backs, TABLE KUN

Why does Nina like corners? That shit probably hurts

I recommend watching this video called “In Defense of Code Geass Euphemia’s moment”

@@ccmaster555 i second this

Not sure if it's true but apparently the writer didn't plan for euphemia to die but the animators animated it anyway. If that's true then that makes the threat to lelouche a bit more real.

@@ccmaster555 oh, nice gonna watch it

fr I'm in denial when someone has a good criticism against my fav anime

ALL HAIL LELOUCH

ALL HAIL LELOUCH!

ALL HAIL LELOUCH!

Mid

*ALL HAIL LELOUCH VI BRITANNIA!*

Its true though. Season 1 and ending of s2 made the show amazing but s2 was full of asspulls and had too many turns

@@uzairahmed4197 nah it didn't. Everything made sense and it was all close to perfect. The ending didn't save it at all. It didn't need to be saved. It's just that the show is so old that people don't remember little key details about what happened. Like the whole euphy situation where people forgot that lelouch lost control of geass before he ordered euphy to do anything so people assume it was super convenient when it wasn't. I rewatched it recently and everyone's arguments have a key factor missing from memory

Garnt was actually right

@@Unknownz000 Fanboi

@@Unknownz000 yeah it made sense but it's still cheap writing it just looks like the writers ran out of ideas like Lelouch just joked about killing the Japanese and Euphoria actually killed the Japanese there nothing smart about this scene. Pardon for my shit english.

Simple reason(spoiler): well first of all he knew that his geass was permanently active now so he kept wearing his mask as shit hit the fan at that point in the story. Than we saw that Charles used his geass to make lelouch forget everything and we know that geass work on a brain level as it could even keep nunully from seeing and in the end he got contact lenses from C.C. at the beginning of season 2

Like the other dude says, it’s cause he wore a mask and also started wearing contacts

I think the main reason that the moment is dumb is cause he gave her the worst possible example like the video says. “Wouldn’t it be funny if I told you to kill the Japanese?” 😂 he could have said anything else. Still I love this show

He's Lelouch lmao. He isn't Goku to make the same mistake more than once.

he literally is a very smart guy, with or without mask and glasses he would never make the same mistake

Nah

what didnt make sense was that the geass malfunctioned in that exact moment just because they wanted to drag the story longer, that my friend is called an asspull.

​@@christopherutit8746 1. Actually the geass malfunctioned way before he told Euphemia to massacre the Japanese. There is a moment while Lelouch and Euphemia were talking where Lelouch had fallen to his knees in pain covering his eye. Simultaneously, C.C. had also fallen down in pain because she is part of the geass. She mutters out "No...He has reached that point?!" Implying that Lelouch had lost control of his geass. While Lelouch was able to regain control for the time being, we all knew what was about to come later. 2. "they wanted to drag the story longer". Lelouch's entire goal was to overthrow his father, the king of Britannia, out of revenge for not saving his mother. He purposely started a revolt in Japan not because he wanted to get rid of Britannia's invasion on Japan, but because he wanted to overthrow the king. He merely used the Japanese as tools. Euphemia would make it so that Lelouch and Japan would no longer have a reason to keep rebelling, thus he would lose. If the story had Lelouch accept the peace treaty, I would be questioning why I stuck around 22 episodes rooting for Lelouch.

@@realwatermelon6486 still, even if it happened before, why did it happen again at that exact moment? plus who lets royalty be alone in the same room with a terrorist with a fucking gun? they probably just thought code geass was too popular so they wanted another season but they wrote themselves into a corner. I get that you like code geass, hell i like it as well but its just too flawed to be called a masterpiece in my opinion.

@@christopherutit8746 "why did it happen again at that exact moment?" Idk. Why did Juliet have to wake up right after Romeo killed himself? I can see why you would be angry about the geass activation timing because it just seems too convenient and out of place. However, Code Geass was a story that prided itself on implausibility, so Euphemia's massacre is not any different. In season 1, they had a whole episode dedicated to a cat running around with Lelouch's mask. Though it is a "wtf" moment, it does show you how far down the rabbit hole of implausibility this anime will go. And much similar to how Shakespeare talks about fate in Romeo and Juliet, Code Geass often talks about miracles. The implausible story + the amount of foreshadowing that occurred made it seem to me that Euphemia's massacre was something set in stone rather than something done on a whim to keep the story going. However, I do understand why the geass activation just seems too convenient. "plus who lets royalty be alone in the same room with a terrorist with a fucking gun?" 1. CONCEALED gun 2. Euphemia herself also asked to be alone with Lelouch or Zero, despite protests from Suzaku. Reasons being that Euphemia and Lelouch are childhood friends and obviously have great trust in each other. "its just too flawed to be called a masterpiece in my opinion." I agree, story is flawed in some points. In season 2, I hated how Lelouch's character never seemed to change, especially after Euphemia's death. Like, bro, you just killed your childhood friend. I also never understood what was going on with Charles and Marianne in C.C.'s world and what they were trying to do, all I remember is seeing a bunch of flashing images about....something. Also the episodes where the anime pretended to be a comedy, slice-of-life highschool anime, why? Code Geass is definitely far from a masterpiece.

@@realwatermelon6486 on the concealed gun thing dont the guards check what lelouch has or sumn? other than that though, your analysis is surprisingly spot on

Bruh stop throwing the term Masterpiece around just like that. A show with that many flaws can't be a masterpiece. Sure the ending is a masterpiece. But the anime as a whole is not like tf.

@@Fraudkovic bro the ending is what I was referring to

@@NeverLadias you said the ending made it a Masterpiece. What is "it" in this sentence?

@@Fraudkovic basically what I meant was the ending was what made the series the goat

@@Fraudkovic without the ending the series would have just fizzled out

thats true....but he is right

R2 was awful lol

Yeah but they are right though

But they’re right on this.

Nah "trash taste" would be thinking Code Geass was amazing or a masterpiece

Doesn't make it less convenient and implausible

@@Mao_Dedong "convenient" for who? foreshadowing and changing character relationships requires a lot of extra work on the part of writers. the only people the change is "convient" for are a few fictional Britannians.

​@@rumfordcConvenient for the show, duh.

@@laststrike4411 shows aren't alive, they don't feel convenience. i think what you're _trying_ to say is that its convenient for the _staff_ of the show, which I already explained is false.

But they did olike season 2, just not parts of it, remeber they still gave it a 8/10

Hell nah, like 8/10 and 7/10

I prefer s2 over the first season

Mid mid mid mid

I wonder how people give CG a 10/10 despite its flaws. Maybe the anime stick with them and not for me?

@@pyro4508 bandwagon bruh.

And they say that ending saves it

Watch the video first 💀

@@santokun5835 I did. I was just saying I agree that the ending saves the entire show.

They called trash taste for a reason so no wonder why they having takes like this.

@@tenderjuicyhotdog27 actually they are right even I'm a big fan of Code Geass I can't deny the fairy tail style asspulls

U spitting

Bruh a perfect 10/10 show would obviously be more interesting than code geas if code geass is not 10/10. Also I agree , the cat episode was unnecessary but I didn't care much and wouldn't call it a flaw , it was just a filler episode. I personally thought code geass was alright but I can see why people like it and call it a masterpiece

@@mimijeet9921 It's the characterization mostly. All the major characters are incredibly sympathetic, even at their most diabolical, so at a certain point you yourself start questioning who really is noble or just and who is the villain, you end up in the mind of Lelouch and Schneizel where morality has been cast aside and all that is left is the chessboard. It's both seductive and traumatizing, and the ending is a perfect crystallization of this conflict. That's how I see it anyways, plenty of people take away different things from art, everyone will have a different answer.

@@mimijeet9921 I guess so but my main example for this is FMB. That show is absolutely a perfect series. Literally nothing wrong with it. I'd rate it a couple of points lower than Code Geass personally because I just found it somewhat uninspired and its themes not really being that exciting or relevant. But man that cat episode and the two festival episodes really fucked the show

@@dfkfgjfg I don't get it , what's wrong with a few filler episodes here and there. Honestly I didn't have a problem with tha cat episode , you don't like slice of life anime I guess? Also fmab definitely had a few boring episodes but the endgame is fucking beautiful.

Shut up its annoying

@@hot.bbq.3619 no you

ALL HAIL LELOUCH!

Trash taste

This is actually a good taste , besides the end , code geass was kinda meh , death note waaaaaaay better and smarter

@@kingdoom5022 dude gtfo just delete this comment

@@yourstepdad1632 you gtfo. I agree with him... Code Geass Season 2 is meh with a great ending.

@@bakano1205 GTFO

"I don't want to make a world of lies" also lelouch:creates a new world based on a lie 😂

But that bullshit ha ha kill the Japanese twist was stupid.

@@rudysmith1552 Despite how ridiculous it was, it was surprisingly foreshadowed in the anime haha

Sounds like aot with all those plot twists

or maybe this is lelouch's true intent in his heart. geass reflects one's heart, lelouch never lose control of his geass doing something he truly wants to.

it's a subtle way the writer saying lelouch isn't as noble as he appears to be. Still like the guy though. weird but yeah.

Yeah it felt like it had a lot of risk to it

I loved both of them

That's the same thing that thye said

@@fackimgoingtocummm6302 its literally a perfect ending along with every ending in jojo makes sense realistic af and well written

The end was amazing but you can't ignore all the bad mess episodes like they literally spend a whole ep chasing a cat

Thats literally what they said. Bad season great ending.

Redditor take:

Also the part that CC made a contract with Lelouch and as it was shown later. CC part of the contract was to feel human by killing her. Geass just assured that path, from a previous point of view and from what is explained later it makes total sense.

Ironic, because the only way you can actually think CG is good is if you “turn-off your brain” to watch it.

@@kathhqq7 nah , only dumb people think that

You must be the one who shut his brain down while watching the show. It was bad/mediocre show except its ending. Doesn't even deserve 7/10, even with its "best anime ending of all time" ending.

@@yigithan.kilinc nah only u

@@crushblade not only him man, it really isn’t anything amazing.

suzaku can work with lelouch pretty early on. Yet it wasn't until lelouch apologized for euphie's death and let suzaku stepped on him(😏), that he managed to switch side.

They are really right the hype and nostalgia just make the show looks a masterpiece

the problem is that, by anime standards, both of those shows are 9.9/10 even with their so-called flaws. any time you ask someone for a show that is better, their answer is one of the other highest rated shows of all time like Monster or AoT. compare them to the Isekai Incest & formula shonen that Trash Taste praises.

*ALL HAIL LELOUCH VI BRITANNIA!*

All hail lelouch

Stfu y'all very toxic

The more you think about code geass the more everything falls apart.

@@icecp6532 I don't listen to these people anymore, anyway. Not after they said that Ghibli movies aren't anime and are "overrated". So now I don't think any of their opinions are valid.

@@BigFry9591 I mean they’re clearly biased against ghibli because Miyazaki is a complete asshole. They’ve talked about this on the podcast, but the movies are ruined for them when they think about the people that made them.

@@BigFry9591 it's their personal opinions. Just like I can understand why demon slayer is popular, because it tackles on family and love. Something weebs had yet experienced. But on the topic of code geass, I'd said their arguments are pretty solid and this is from the number one lelouch fan

R2 was a mess but i still really liked the progression until the end. I still think its a rly gud show because it basically focuses on the losses lelouch must truly face when he waged war against the most powerful nation in the world

it was foreshadowed, but who joked about killing Japanese people. Especially you're the one leading Japanese ? the writer want it to be a plot twist, the scene doesn't feel earned. comparing it to attack on titan. spoiler alert : the part Reiner revealed his true identity, the scene felt so abrupt yet every time I watch it, it felt earned and it just fits with the previous narrative perfectly. but yet lelouch's out of control geass only foreshadowed by mal 2 episodes before, c.c didn't even explain how long it takes for geass to get out of control.

But they were right about what they said tho.

@@sleepdeprivation1028 you see, I am offended. And perfectly logical & true reasons don't work against offended people.

@@rollin7788 Lol that's an interesting thing I learned today.

But it's just like having a damage body with a beautiful face

Foreshadowed but poor executioned

You clearly haven’t watched the podcast. He was looking at his phone, because he was looking at his anime list, which this podcast episode was about.

Oedipus actually works so much better as we know what happens before the play starts

Literally the only semi-decent part of the entire show.

​@@kathhqq7I believe that's why the show is praised so highly because code geass season 2 was a hot mess.

OMG. Thank you. I though I was the only one who didn't like how Persona 5 ended. Where the story was so tight before with the palaces and fighting the corruption of society, the ending took a nosedive into pseudo intellectual nonsense, just elevating stakes cuz they felt like it.

Well then maybe the title shouldn't be clickbait

@@vishalasthana8998 clickbait = more views

Shinsekai Yori comes to mind. Maybe Madoka Magicka and Monster as well.

@@KingR098 already watched all of those (well, read the manga for Monster), but yeah those are good, something like these is hard to find

@@KingR098 I disagree with Madoka Magika. The ending made Madoka’s sacrifice almost pointless. It ended up just replacing witches with wraiths lol

@@anthonylopez5 not really, because as far as I can remember, unlike the witches it's not the magical girls anymore who turn into these things, it's just that this is a new thing that they have to fight. And then there's also the Rebellion ending too, which, despite many people having a whole lot of problems with it, is still f'ing incredible in my opinion.

Other than Code Geass, maybe Guren Lagann or FMAB? Honestly, there are not that many animes that have good endings. That's why Code Geass cements itself as a top anime.

But their Gundam series with season 2 was dope

I agree. Lelouch saying kill all the japanese ironically BECAUSE he was talking to someone so good-hearted and sweet-natured is not out of his character. The Geass power mutating at that moment is the thing that's a convienent ass pull. Some people hate the way the battles get upscaled and "simplified" with the blastoid mechs, but the show makes it very clear that there is an arms race in developing the most devastating knightmares. And Lelouch often loses tactics-wise in S2, he stays true to upsetting the terrain or some other strategic point that other commanders haven't considered, until they are on to his ways and he can't pull the trickery and feckery anymore. Things actually get more interesting in that regard. R2 is more akin to a runaway ferris wheel because of the immense momentum of each action's consequence and shit DOES spiral out of control, until it parallel parks (or whatever) in the final third of the season.

@@maddiesiegmund5623 I like your takes in general, and can see what you mean. Most everything fits enough, but could’ve benefitted from a few more episodes of setup in certain cases (I would say for Jeremiah and V2 the most). I never actually thought the Geass mutating right then was the reason that the power went off, but it was instead just the order he said being carried out and the trauma of the surprise causing it to jumpstart its growth and intensity, making it about the same time but still distinctly important enough. Could be wrong, but that’s how kid me took it all those years ago and it always made enough sense to me. And for the mech arms race, it could’ve definitely been done better, but still felt sufficiently tactical like other battles and made the only things that weren’t foreshadowed enough/at all being the Chinese frame and V2 knowing how to pilot Jeremiah’s frame. After that it felt like as much of an ass pull as things like the season 1 plans, where a fact is shown but not explicitly explained for foreshadowing Overall I just prefer the more character heavy and less filler heavy segments of the show, as the show really didn’t do much to impress with certain characters and instead did amazingly and top tier with others

FINALLY!!! SOMEONE ACTUALLY SAID IT!!!

Well the ending doesn't make it a masterpiece the road to the glorious ending made it a legend

I think thats a very convenient lie imo. The reason why Code Geass has one of the best endings in anime history is because of the journey you witnessed throughout, I feel like people who say Code Geass only reason its a masterpiece is because of the ending are being really disingenuous. U only truly value the ending of a story and its characters when u value the journey. Something can't suddenly go from a trainwreck 2/10 to a masterpiece like people say lmao.

It's funny because, the guy says Aot is still amazing, but he attacks code geass who has one of the best endings in fiction ... THINK THINK Aot has more mistakes and nobody mentions them, be honest with yourself

@@jobnacorconcepcionabad6037 ???? You know that he only watch the anime right ? He dont even fucking read the manga. And also who said he didnt like code geass ending ???

God I don’t wanna rant about this show but I love it too muc

Alright so when Lelouch told the joke: it weakened his hopes of solving the 11 problem with no bloodshed when he realized he can’t backstab his dad if he joined Euphy(RIP) but after when Lelouch told the joke he realized I can’t be a vigilante who can solve this peacefully, oath of the Geass basically forced him to not betray his own oath. The scene was crucial to Lelouch’s diversity with his mind. He already killed so many people to the point where he can never look back, the geass forced him to not look back

Ok not this is me being biased but I love Rolo

Never rewatch anything? Lol for real?

It'll hold up, trust. People tend to blow stuff out of proportion when talking about the negatives with code geass. While there are objectively some flaws in the show with regards to plot convenience and some cop out writing, the enjoyment and thrill you get from experiencing that crazy ride is still the same as when you first watch it. Even the ending hits almost as hard as the first watch since you spend 49 episodes with lelouch and everyone else before getting there again.

Farzan Mahmood "still the same as when you first watch it" That sounds good to hear, cause that first watch was unbelievable.

I did think a lot the of characters were bland and had no personality but I think lelouch and susaku are both great characters and great foils to each other

Not to mention the ending, which goes to show how important it is as it elevated this show for a lot of people by at least a point

He carried the series real hard

The whole harem aspect was wack af tho

True, the main character has to be interesting enough to advance the storyline. If the main character is boring or annoying then it actually kill the show . Boruto is one of them. I can think of a show that has a lot annoying character. Maybe Makoto ltou from school days.

I found it funny how they did it with FMA/B, how in the title its says its overrated but the highlight is just Connor cringing at Joey for giving it a 7.