Should we do an Espresso Setup Next?! I’d also appreciate if you hit that Like button! Ps. The most IMPORTANT tool is the coffee itself… but more on this in a full video 😁
I would love to see it ! With budgets of 500/1000/1500/2000+ would be great i guess! A little suggestion at the end you should add your “dream set up” with no budget limit for fun.
By the way if it can help, I have an Eureka Mignon Crono as my electric grinder for my Flair 58, the cheapest electric "good" grinder I found and it works pretty well !
i was thinking the same thing ... with stuff like the flair and the bellman/nanofoamer etc. ... as an alternative to the lunar for the flair, i use the same as Xris had from amazon and it works fine! ........ cheers, thanks for this video, nice ideas even if obviously the possibilities are endless (eg. the origami could have been interesting for its waved and conical filters capacity) anyways... thanks!Q
I super agree that a half-decent grinder should be the core of any good first setup. It almost doesn't matter what other things you use, it'll make good coffee. The Aeropress is great for a first piece of kit because you can use a cheap kettle with it, no need to spend a lot on a gooseneck until you're fully indoctrinated :D
I tried using aeropress during my first year brewing and its great in consistency, and ease of use but I'd go with the pourover for the cleaner bright cup. and until now (3years of brewing, never go back to aeropress). actually choosing your first brewer depends on the first coffee teacher/recipe and preference
Thank you for the most informative video. I have the grinder, Aeropress, and a V60-like thingy. Now I need a coffee scale. Thank you again for recommendations at varying price points.
hey man this was the most condensed coffee tool upload I have seen. Straight forward, to the point, no bullshit, THANKS! I am upgrading my kit tomorrow
Great video! I feel like if you had a non goose neck kettle, you could use a pouring shower screen or a non heating goose neck pot, that you would transfer your hot water to, for easier control.
I actually got that cosori kettle and hario v60 kit 2 weeks ago before seeing this video and super happy with it. Also just got an 1zpresso JX and have a timemore scale on the way. Love the vids keep em coming.
2 years ago I bought an aeropress, found a brand-new in box chestnut C2 on my local online marketplace and grabbed an old kettle from my shelf. Total spent €50 (was very lucky on the C2) and I've been enjoying this setup a lot.
So my sister is going away to college next year and I suggested something along the lines to your first setup. C2 grinder $15-20 Amazon scale V60 kit $30 Bodum electric kettle
Been brewing coffee/espresso for decades. For someone on a budget get the $99 capresso infinity grinder then pick up either v60, aeropress, bodum French press, add a Amazon budget cooking scale and you are done. Keep in mind you can make amazing microfoamed milk with the right technique in the french press. So it can do two things for your coffee drinks
That first kit is exactly what I told my buddy to buy. He already had a scale and a digital thermometer. So i told him to get the Chestnut C2 and an Aeropress. We'll see if he listenes.
Add in a Gaggia Classic Pro espresso machine and a couple of tools and accessories for making expresso and one is up to about $1700. This is where I ended up with few regrets.
Kyle, big yes for a espresso setup. Looking for my first setup and just love your real video’s and others in the coffee industry. But doing the same will help many who are looking for a good value setup at their budget point. So let’s go brother 🙂
Hi Kyle, another great vid! Have you done any comparisons of kettles? I was lucky enough to find a Stagg EKG at an auction site. Since i was using another kettle previously for months, I think the Stagg looks really classy but it's kind of a unitasker. It just pours too. darned. slow. Great for V60 and other smaller percolation methods, struggles on 500 ml single pour V60s, and is aggrevating for filling things quickly like a Clever / Hario Switch, Aeropress, or Robot / Flair. It's like getting an Audi that's really good at going 35 MPH and no faster. Since your more premium setups are multitasking, perhaps something like QCUQ (used to be called Willsence, that's my daily driver ) or a Brewista for a fancy setup?
NO! Just a $20 metal burr manual Grinder, FrenchPress, w/ pour over reusable metal cone filter to double up filtering, and Cheap kettle (boiling water not distilling liquor). Then spend your $$ on premium coffee whole beans bc that is the priority!
Friend, a clever dripper is roughly the same as the aeropress in price. Which grinder is as good as the c2 but cheeper? Grind quality is just as important in the clever.
I recently got the V60 kit, to finally master pourovers, and give my French press and Aeropress ( which I won from this channel! ) a little rest. I have a Bontavita electric goose neck, and a bargain grinder from Target, but I've also got a Baratza grinder, brand new, that's been sitting in my closet forever: I will finally use it, and retire the cheaper grinder sometime this winter. :)
I am no expert but having a good set up improved my daily routine. I use a bodum bistro electric grinder. Salad master kettle, thermos and matched with a wacaco nanopresso and a bodum french press. Super cheap set up but works for me. I have looking for long time to add a manual grinder that I can take anywhere I go that can make a fine espresso ☕️. JX and izprezzo seems unavailable in the country I live.
That $130 setup is exactly what I have except my timemore c2 is textured grey instead of white. I've been very happy with it and it's nice to know I made a good budget choice. Sounds like I have to buy that v60 kit and gooseneck kettle next.
ops forgot to get Standart's latest version :D Coffee is a big black hole, you can spend a lot of money, wondering how much money we pay for the coffee after getting all these gears
No love for the french press? It's such an easy method for beginners to get into and immediately get amazing coffee. The method is easier than both an aeropress and a pourover, and it's my go to when people ask me how to get into "better coffee" at home.
Hey! This is a video for pour overs. That’s the only reason. Tho I’m not sure I can agree that it’s easier than the aeropress. They require about the same amount of steps depending on the recipe, but I respect this thought.
@@KyleRowsell oh dang, sorry i totally missed that part of your title! For a single cup, you're right, the work is about the same, but I make a French press every day because it makes 3-4 cups of coffee all at once. I'll make an aeropress if i only want a single cup, which isn't as often now that i work at home. Thanks for the videos!
Hey Kyle! I am pretty deep into the rabbit hole. A year and half ago, I started with a 50$ setup (10$ pretty useless grinder, 10$ scale that showed readings of d = 1g , 10$ kettle that just boils water and a 20$ French Press). I have since upgraded to Brewista Artisan kettle, Timemore Blackmirror Basic scale, 1Zpresso JX Pro along with the same french press, a hario pour over set, an Aeropress and a Mitsudashi cold brewer. Planning on buying a Flair Pro 2. Will the JX-Pro deliver for it? Is any upgrade on the grinder beyond the point of diminishing returns? I want to train as a barista after my college is over.
@@KyleRowsell Thanks. Completely watched the video. Was informative and the cinematography is worth a thousand praise. The JX Pro didn't feature in that video, was just wondering.
Thank you Kyle for this informative Video!😊 You said that the Comandante C40 produces a better grind than the Fellow Ode. So is the C40 better in Grinding than any electric grinder? I have read in a book that I should choose a handgrinder because they do not produce heat. Would you say that a Niche Zero or a Lagom P64 unimodal produces not that good grinds like the C40? Thank you my man🙏
There are many grinders out there rivaling or outperforming the c40 but they are most often very expensive electric grinders with the best burrs on the market. Thing is at the price point of the c40 it has the best burrs possible, similar to the ones in electric grinders, there’s no real difference in quality, just preference. Every burrset gives a different flavour profile and its up to you to decide which you like most
Many cheap/mid level electric grinders use high rpm to make up for other shortfallings of the grinder, which make them suitable to espresso but not so much for filter. The c40 will never have them problem, and the burrs are designed for the low rpm hand grinding. Higher cost electric grinders are able to easily outperform the c40 once you start hitting the D64/niche zero price range.
Timemore C2 and a V60 or Aeropress has sorted me out for a long time. New C2 has metal adjustment parts which is nicer than the plastic on the one you showed
I think I’m over the $2000 mark with my set up with the mahlkonig x54 and breville barista express helping out with it , that’s not including my coffee roaster which the average person doesn’t have, I’d like to see a $2000 set up though just for fun
I have a timemore C1 that I bought for just $50 about 2 years ago, not sure what caused the $80 pricing on the C2, does it grind better or something? As far as I know it's just a rebrand of the C1 with different materials, I don't think there was any marketing about better grind quality. Edit: Just checked aliexpress and the C2 goes for around ~50 usd too. I think aliexpress just has lower prices. If you can afford to wait a bit for shipping, aliexpress might be cheaper, bringing down the price of that coffee kit a little more.
Checkout the Hario Drip-Assist! Totally eliminates the need for a gooseneck kettle and is so much more consistent. After a decade using a gooseneck kettle, this is hands down the best way to pour water into coffee for a pour over. And it's cheap at about $12!
Ok, I never cost out my total amount, but I use baratza satte 270 , with normal jwellery scale and a normal goose neck stove top kettle which works perfect very cheap and good pour,, with v60, chemex, origami, kalita drippers , lol 🤣 , know it's crazy but I love to collect and brew all different drippers , next month going to buy stag one
For the cheap set up i would advice the Krubs blade. If you're ready to spend more for an actual grinder at some point, u can use the blade as a spice grinder instead
Got the Chestnut X grinder, Black Mirror scale, Westmark kettle (Gooseneck for induction and with thermometer in the lid) and the Hario switch with both some paper filters and a metal filter. So great a kit. - have had it for 3 months now and really enjoy the Hario switch and the Chestnut X for all the options they offer.
Hello Kyle! May i know your thought about this 2 set up that i want to buy, Rancilio Silvia V6 and DF64 Or Breville Dual boiler Dynamic duo , breville smart grinder. Which will produce great espresso and will last much more years. I hope u notice this Thank you so much!
Living in 220v country, I recommend suggesting 220v electric device, especially when it comes to kettles, cuz I was about to buy Ovalware electric kettle (bcs it is affordable) but didn't know they don't support 220v. Converter also does not work very well.
For $200 I´d replace the V60 & filter paper with the Orea V2 Mk1 brewer + Kalitta 155 paper filters. Thanks for the Cosari kettle recommendation, looks like exactly what I´m looking for!
I wonder how much is a bag of coffee (200-250 g) in North America and Europe? Where I live a bag of single origin premium grade arabica is around $5-$7. Even a specialty grade one is like $10 a bag and for most people that's kinda expensive.
@@KyleRowsell You are obviously right! I think we (Dancing Goats Coffee / Batdorf & Bronson) just have some still in stock at the old price. I had no idea it went up by so much. Great grinder! I use the Virtuoso myself, but I typically recommend the Encore for most people.
This is great; when I worked at blue bottle I had a similar reference I’d send to people and even though that was 5 years ago, our lists have a lot in common.
Thanks for the comment Bryan! Glad you enjoyed the video. And fair comment on the stagg! I personally enjoy it’s flow rates and ergonomics but understand the hesitation.
Interesting you pick a standard v60 as an entry level pour over. I am interested in starting with pour over but I am reading a v60 is too complex as a beginner's pour over and you'd be better off with a switch or a clever dripper or a kono??
That’s a fair statement. The aeropress is a great alternative to any v60 recommendation. Tho I wouldn’t say the v60 is hard if you follow some straight forward recipes. 😁
@@KyleRowsell yes. Aeropress is my office driver... Debating which to get for the home pour over journey! I'll probably get all of them at some point. Once you went down the espresso money pit pour over seems so cheap :-)
What about the coffee itself? You mention filters, which are consumables. Is rather have good fresh coffee on the cheapest grinder and $10 Melita cone, than stale grocery store coffee with the highest end setup you recommend here.
I think you’re jumping to conclusions that I’m saying coffee doesn’t matter. Ive reiterated many times in my videos that coffee is the most important tool. This video is simply making the statement that coffee gear can be affordable and $1000 of gear isn’t really needed…. but is available if desired.
@@KyleRowsell I absolutely enjoyed the video, but when you said to "include a subscription to..." I totally thought you were going to say a "coffee service". Not to complain at all about standart. It just struck me as the missing piece. 😁
@@whosgonnadotcom it’s funny, I actually had this in the original video. I explained this on my discord, but felt I wasn’t giving enough attention to the coffee so I thought I’d do a full video on this instead.
Hey friend! Thanks for this comment, tho if I may, I would disagree. I own both and the C40 not only has a more even particle distribution it does a better job and delivering clean and delicious cups of coffee. That being said taste is subjective and I 100% respect your opinion :)
Great video, I have just realized that I know absolutely nothing about coffee. I was unaware that the grinder is the most important part of making great coffee. I like both the $550 and the $1,000 dollar setup. I am not opposed to hand grinding coffee. I am also living part time in Colombia, South America and I have access to coffee plantations. Please give me your recommendations so I can order my first coffee set up and toss my $35 coffee maker out. My logic was that the coffee and the water are the main contributors to a great cup of coffee.
Got the Comandante C40 and had no complaints whatsoever. Buy once cry once so to speak, but now I feel like that’s not the case… The niche grinder seems good. 💸
Same video for expresso pls ! With budgets of 500/1000/1500/2000+ for example would be great ! A little suggestion at the end you should add your “dream set up” with no budget limit for fun
