The Best Budget Coffee Hand Grinder under $150?

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In this Video I compare cheaper budget friendly but high quality coffee hand grinders.
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Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
1:45 - The Lineup
2:32 - Timemore C2
5:03 - 1ZPRESSO JX
8:22 - VSSL JAVA
11:26 - Hario Slim
12:55 - Vario Hand Grinder
15:59 - PORLEX Mini
17:30 - Normcore
19:13 - Verdict
SIFT TEST RESULTS:
(20g of coffee ground to roughly 1100 Microns based on the Brewler)
Kruve sifter using 400 and 1100 micron sifters
Timemore:
Coarse: 6.3
Middle: 11.6 (between 1100-400 microns)
Fine: 1.6
Percentage: 58% in sweet zone
1ZPRESSO JX:
Coarse: 4.9
Middle: 12.8
Fine: 1.9
Percentage: 64% in sweet zone
VSSL:
Coarse: 6.4
Middle: 11.5
Fine: 1.6
Percentage: 57% in sweet zone
Hario Slim:
Coarse: 11.4
Middle: 7.6
Fine: 1
Percentage: 38% in sweet zone
Varia:
Coarse: 6.1
Middle: 11.9 (between 1100-400 microns)
Fine: 1.6
Percentage: 59% in sweet zone
Porlex:
Coarse: 10.9
Middle: 8.5
Fine: 0.6
Percentage: 42% in sweet zone
Normcore:
Coarse: 4.8
Middle: 13.7
Fine: 1.2
Percentage: 68% in sweet zone

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@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Sift Test results are in the description! Which grinder would you choose out of these seven? In hindsight if I had known three of these grinders had the same burr... I might have opted for others. But this was an interesting revelation none the less. Drop a comment on which grinder you prefer!

@mikele7982 3 года назад

I had 1Zpresso Pro E. It is a versatile one and can grind both. Today I am using Timemore Slim, also a good grinder. Btw, did you know Timemore offer new upgrades for all of their grinders with different bur set. It suits both espresso and pour-over too.

@harrym2709 3 года назад

Hi Kyle - I'm unconvinced by your methodology with the sift testing. First you dial in each grinder to around 1100um particle size, then use a 1100um sieve to bin the particles? This just means that the grinder that is dialled in closer to 1200um will be "worse" because a lot goes into the "coarse" bin while one dialled into 1000um will be "better" because very little will stay in the "coarse" bin. With the limited resolution of sieve tests you would be much better off dialling in to the centre between two sieves, and repeating the test (from scratch, including the dialling in process) multiple times to get a reliable result.

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

@@harrym2709 Hi Harry. Before conducting the test I was instructed by Kruve that this is how to do the Kruve sift test. To make it even more precise I could add multiple sift variations through the process, but decided against it. To add to this, every grinder was dialled in within 100 microns. And based on the data provided I think it’s a good result of which grinder has great consistency. This isn’t meant to be the end all test, just more data for your benefit.Thanks for the comment.

@mattdasilva4577 2 года назад

Love the review. Have you tried the newer normcore V2 version? Think they fixed the problem with the lid. But I've heard people saying that whilst you can fit 25g in the hopper, the collection bin can only hold 20g of ground coffee. Do you know if that's true? Not sure if it was in relation to the v1 or V2 or both

@JoeyTen 2 года назад

@@mattdasilva4577 I came to ask the same. The Normcore V2 also has 24 clicks per rotation (vs. the 12 clicks in V1), so I was wondering if it would be good for espresso.

@ktsung91 3 года назад

as a Taiwanese American, mind blown when you pronounced “e”zspresso. I’ve always said “one”zpresso without thinking twice behind the name.

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Haha oh man! That’s so cool.

@wanyeng 3 года назад

Yì-zee-presso. Cool branding! Me calling it One-zack-as-presso at one time.

@veeriabroadcast 3 года назад

I had to google it because I didn't understand at first lol now I do

@amimisasagi Год назад

Omg... As a Taiwanese Canadian... This blows my mind too hahha ...

@mexist 9 месяцев назад

Oh man, as a Mexican American I've only read it and in my mind it was "one zee presso" 😅

@andreavon5929 3 года назад

Ok Kyle, I pressed like before the video even started. I always enjoy your content and really like your philosophy of life. For myself I purchased the C2 on the spur of the moment, for when my wife and I go on a trip or something. I normally research the items I purchased, like the Niche Zero, it took me a couple of months to pull the trigger on that one, with absolutely no regrets, it more than sastisfied me. The C2 was a surprise, I even use it at home for V60 or Aeropress, because it is fun to use and adds enjoyement of the zen practice of a pour over and it makes delicious coffee. Thanks for this video and all of your other videos! I wish you and your family a great summer.👍

@slpardee10 3 года назад

Great review Kyle. I rolled the dice last June on the 1Zpresso JX when there were almost no reviews. It's a home run. It came direct from Taiwan in 2 days to Ohio for $129. The build quality is phenomenal with the entire thing being machined from a single block of aluminum with two bearings on the shaft for virtually zero wobble. That assures super grind consistency and is the polar opposite of my old Hario which wobbled all over the place. It feels like this problem is solved once and for all. Now to just enjoy the great coffee it produces. By the way the JX pro is identical except for the top adjustment which has 40 clicks per revolution compared to the JX having 30 clicks. And since I just do pourover/aeropress type brewing I got the regular one. But $30 more isn't bad for the upgrade.

@lurklingX 2 года назад

30 seconds in but i wanted to say that was incredibly satisfying grinding footage. really gave an excellent idea of function, smoothness and sound. thumbs up.

@Milkscribbler 3 года назад

Loved this video, Kyle! Actually any video on your channel is premium quality 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 I’d watch any ads for this 💛

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Ah, you’re too kind!

@DonKangolJones Год назад

This was incredibly helpful in helping me narrow my choices down to my first budget hand grinder. It’s nice to know I can get good quality for my pour-over coffee under $100. Thank you.

@sebas9504 3 года назад

Awesome video Kyle! Your Insta posts have had me eagerly awaiting this video

@Isabelagug 3 года назад

I used to have a Hario Mini Slim Plus and since last October I've had a Chestnut C2. What an improvement! I really like this grinder, even though I got the (now old) black version, which came with a brass part that oxidized or something. Luckily the company just changed that and the new version of the model has different materials (all steel I believe).

@juanpablodominguezsouza2398 3 года назад

Your video made me buy the Timemore, finally got it and I'm loving it, love your vids

@joanzulaybar2839 3 года назад

Good quality video and content. I’m suprised you only have 12k subscribers. Keep up the good work!

@markkut 3 года назад

Kyle! Solid job with this comparison. I've been looking at picking up a really good hand grinder recently, and this helped me get a little closer to a good decision.

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Ah you’re too kind. Glad this helped!

@jwalshxyz 3 года назад

Loved the video Kyle. I have been a long term Hario Slim user. I was contemplating replacing some of its parts that had worn out but Hario Japan can no longer guarantee international shipping times . So I am in the market for a new hand grinder. As I only hand grind in the outdoors or when I cannot take an electric grinder your video was able to open my eyes to some grinders I wasn't aware of. The Timemore C2 looks like a perfect upgrade from the Slim for me, as someone who won't be using it daily in their coffee regime.

@alaskavaper966 3 года назад

1zpresso is killing it. I believe they developed the burr set that is now adopted by some others. Great hands on comparison review, Kyle.

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Agreed! Thanks friend. Much appreciated

@UloPe 3 года назад

I read that they copied the burrs from the commandante and kinu grinders (JX / K). But then making a quality copy is nothing to scoff at too.

@daiheadjai 3 года назад

Great vid! After using a Hario Skerton for 2 years, I finally bought the 1zpresso.... Definitely a night and day difference, though I wish the grinds cup was either secured by magnets or a friction connection instead of being screwed in!

@natehamilton6197 3 года назад

Really appreciated this video! Great comparisons and notes on flavor profiles. I bought the Varia hand grinder because of this video and I absolutely love it! Thank you!

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Ah YES Nate! Thanks for the comment

@chanpersaud9930 3 года назад

I have the 1zpresso k pro and it is amazing! I wish this company got more props. The quality of their products are great! Great review!

@MMonYouTube 3 года назад

Thank you SO much for your wonderful comparisons and reviews. I find them extremely useful. Thanks again!

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

My pleasure!

@noticemesenpaiiii 3 года назад

I love how you compare them not only in subjective matters but also compare them with kruve sifter. I can't wait for you to talk about those high-end manual hand grinders!

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@KlokStudios 3 года назад

Great video Kyle, there been a lot of growth in the manual coffee grinder space and it's always great to see what leaps companies have made! I'll be signing up for the patreon.

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Thank you for your input Chris. And thanks for the support.

@WeAreBullets Год назад

realizing i been watching a lot of your review vids and realizing i enjoy your vibe so i finally subbed lol 👏🏻❤️👍🏻

@kmktime 2 года назад

You sold me on the 1zpress jx! I bought it a couple weeks ago after watching this video. Happy with it for my pour over coffee making!

@Aaron-cc7yq 2 года назад

I have the 1zpresso and when you pick it up you immediately sense the quality of the grinder. It is great!

@seanfrench1029 2 года назад

Great vid Kyle. This helped me finalise my choice(s). The rugged VSSL for camping and a C2 for home & work (remote site) where I only really make Americanos & cappuccinos with my Aeropress & French press.

@Bigbenirv 3 года назад

I’m a uni student that had the misfortune of becoming an specialty coffee addict because once you make your first home brewing purchase [and you if like it] there’s no turning back, used to buy pre-ground from my local roasters, used to pour water using a recycled Coffee Mate container, used to borrow a baking scale from my sis and slowly over time with savings and ‘lil gigs upgraded my setup piece by piece until I bought the Timemore last November, this grinder has a very special place in my heart as it finally showed me what brewing GOOD coffee at home feels like and it’s far from perfect, I agree with the plastics, the little adjustment knob on mine is showing some cracks and the catch bin is always unscrewing a tad bit not enough so it falls but enough so 5AM me is approaching a heart attack (the lid wobbling is solved by actually pressing hard on the shaft and it sits mostly flush) but damn is it consistent enough for the price, today I sit and enjoy this video as this is a great guide to those who are starting their journey as much as I started mine. It is almost a poetic goodbye as today, the day this video released, is the same day my Fellow Ode arrived in the mail.

@aerasatbp 2 года назад

how are you liking your Fellow Ode? have they replaced the stock unit with the flat burrs?

@Bigbenirv 2 года назад

@@aerasatbp I enjoy it enough so that it goes unnoticed, I have the first burr update they made, the V1.1 per se however it does have a couple of issues, every now and again it jams when grinding high doses (50g and up) but I only do that once every one or two weeks and it doesn’t happen all the time and the auger key to clean the burrs was astonishingly hard to remove, contacted Fellow’s support and they sent me the replacement with no extra cost and it’s all good now, I feel it grinds fine enough for most of the beans I use to the point I don’t even feel the need for the SSP burr set although this is more down to personal preference, autostop works well 100% of the time, I spray a little bit of water to the beans before grinding and I face no retention and little static, overall pretty good, specially for a first crack at a grinder from Fellow.

@noblelion427 3 года назад

Hey Kyle! New sub here :). Thanks for the clear and detailed breakdown of the hand grinders. I really like the Timecodes, so thank you for doing that. I watched the whole video, but appreciated being able to jump around to the various review times based on what you said at the end. That way of watching a review is really helpful to me. I may go with the 1ZPRESSO JX as a result of your review, so thanks for doing this video - very clear, concise, and entertaining. Definitely my favorite type for comparison reviews!

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Hi Tom! Thanks for watching, and thank you for the kind comment!

@passthebrew4936 3 года назад

The Hario was my first ever burr grinder. I used it for years, and it deserves the OG tag

@Adam-vx6to 3 года назад

Nah. Its terrible and deserves nothing

@dany20100001 3 года назад

Video is super well made and informative. Thanks man that was helpful !

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Glad to help!

@techman5852 3 года назад

Hey man, great comparison! I’ll definitely be recommending it to some friends! It’s actually completely normal for grinders to use non-proprietary burrs. I believe most grinders source there burrs from other companies.

@cam9354 3 года назад

You hit the nail on the head regarding the jx series. I almost bought the jx and decided to spend the extra for the jx-pro and I love it. We’ll see how it does on the flair 58 for espresso but overall has been great for everything from aero press to French press.

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Right on! Thanks for the comment Cameron. A flair 58 review to come soon.

@pastfutureart 3 года назад

JX-Pro owner here... it's great for espresso and everything else, as long as you are good with how it needs to be set up for each type and dialing in. I thought it was an extravagant expense at the time but now I realize how much it saved me, effort-wise, and budget-wise.

@VaidasLungis 3 года назад

Burr flavor profile. I am Mindblown 💥 thanks for an overview! Amazing content

@abriaviguetero1111 Год назад

Hey, Kyle. I really do appreciate these reviews about relatively cheap coffee equipment for people like me who just wanna enjoy good coffee without having to sell one of my kidneys. Keep making more of these, please. Count me in to subscribe.

@danjv 3 года назад

Hi Kyle, thanks for this comparison. I was looking for a compact grinder but strapped for cash. I came upon a small hand grinder from Mavo. It's cost was about $25 US. Ceramic burrs and comes with a spare burr and a cleaning brush. All plastic but feels pretty solid. Adjustments are stepped and stable. Not really suited for espresso but we don't travel with an espresso machine. Cheers

@lyesallouche9010 Год назад

Brilliant video mate, clear and simple

@borges87 3 года назад

Great video, Kyle! When I joined the world of specialty coffee, the entry level grinders were limited, specially here in Brazil. I opted for the Hario Skerton and came a long way to a high end, locally made hand grinder this year. I wish I had all these options back then.

@onipise 3 года назад

Hi Alexandre. What locally made hand grinder are you referring to? Thx

@borges87 3 года назад

@@onipise Bravo Grinder

@m_stedt 3 года назад

Wow this was exactly the review I needed a month ago. I ended up buying the 1zpresso jx and I'm super happy with it. I never really took the quality grinder thing seriously but my coffee tastes so much better since upgrading from the the hario mini mill.

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Glad I could help!

@planetbryan 2 года назад

I bought a cheap manual grinder with the ceramic burr, and I wanted to speed things up a bit. I took of the handle and tightened the chuck of my portable drill on the top of the grinder and let it rip. Worked pretty well.

@johnnycashew9101 3 года назад

Awesome videos. Very informative, really good info for those new to the coffee world and veterans alike I'm the former, so I really appreciate the info. A diamond in the rough

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Glad this helped Johnny!

@MrJab-hq8yk 2 года назад

Great comparison, I have the Timemore C2 and it performs as my expectation resulting enjoyable cup of coffee everyday. I was planning to upgrade to Timemore Slim (not the Slim Plus) but after knowing that the Slim using the same burr set as C2, I considered to upgrade to the Slim Plus instead, but still doing more research since the Slim Plus have 2 varian, one with E&B burr sets and one with the titanium coated burr sets (with six star) and surprisingly the Normcore burr sets looked very similar to the Slim Plus just without the titanium coating hmm...

@yuugatenshi 3 года назад

One thing I like about 1Zpresso is that they designed their grinder nut to fit electric screwdrivers so you can kind of turn them into electric grinders. However given their high grinding efficiency, it is actually much faster to just do it manually than to fuss around with the screwdriver. Was thinking to buy the Hario Smart G mobile mill to go with my KPro at one point, but eventually never found the need.

@coffeewithcarl1779 3 года назад

How this doesn't have 50 k views yet is a mystery to me!

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

That’s alright. Just happy to help those who have watched ☺️

@TheErazar 2 года назад

It does now :) and I'm here because of your comment hehe

@tuocheng9636 2 года назад

1ZPRESSO is my third purchase of a hand grinder as I feel more confident on making pour-over coffees, and I was absolutely amazed by how fast and consistant it can grind! I think I will stick to it for a loooong time. Thank you for the sharing! Even though I've already fell in love with this grinder, hearing positive feedbacks from someone I trust in terms of coffee making is just reassuring and somewhat satisfying. Lastly, I want to say that I just recently found this channel, and everything on it is spot on, pleasant ,and interesting to watch! I've quickly became a fan! Thank you for the great content!

@SWatchik 3 года назад

What an awesome video and presentation. Can't say I'm still certain which one I'd pick but extremely useful either way!

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

So glad to hear that.

@waynependrigh4669 2 года назад

Great video. Very informative without lots of foo foo. Thank you.

@hamblok0 3 года назад

I ended up grabbing a Timemore Chestnut C2 because of this video and my god what an unbelievable upgrade this is from my Hario Slim Mini Plus. That horrible grinder gave me some of the worst cups I ever had, so once I made my first V60 using the C2 I was pretty floored by the results. I would highly recommend it for anybody in a similar situation where they desperately need to upgrade from their cheap grinder but they don't know whether or not they should just save some dough and grab the C2 or save up for something like the 1zpresso JX; rest assured that this grinder slaps and you won't regret it, so long as you aren't looking for an espresso grinder.

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Thanks for this positive feedback!

@jefftitterington7600 Год назад

Sorry for to be late with this question - but I am in the same situation you were. I got the HarioSlim Mini as I was testing the water, and didn't want to spend too much on something I might drop right away. After two months I decided I'm sticking with it for a while. I don't see spending a lot on this hobby. Can your suggested grinder handle a moka pot? Finer than V60, coarser than espresso. Thanks!

@hamblok0 Год назад

@@jefftitterington7600 No idea, sorry.

@jefftitterington7600 Год назад

@@hamblok0 thanks for your time. It was a bit of a wild shot anyway.

@plaspohlme 2 года назад

I just upgraded my hand grinder from the hario to the Normcore because of this video. I was shocked at the difference. Of course the coffee is better, but the speed is unbelievable. The first time i used it i literally said out loud "wait I'm done!?" Thanks for the recommendation.

@amythai6271 3 года назад

This was super helpful! Thank you so much :)

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

My pleasure

@danmatthewtan8027 3 года назад

First of all.. The studio is looking so bomb my guy 🔥 Let’s go!! Anyway, I used the Hario Slim for around a year before deciding to switch it out for an electric grinder and all I can say is the the grinds you get out if it doesn’t justify the amount of effort you have to put into grinding the coffee.

@gideon3839 3 года назад

yea because Hario Slim is a nightmare for grinding beans. Short arm length and flimsy design. I also started off with that Hario slim. If you have tried any higher end hand grinder, you'll noticed how effortless to grind beans actually, and the taste profile will always be a lot better than electric grinder in the same price range. :)

@HeroicCoachDan 5 месяцев назад

French press is my method of brewing at this time. Thank you for your reviews.

@chrisculleton-koebel9978 3 года назад

Thanks for the great review. I"ve had the Porlex Mini for over 5 years mostly as my travel grinder, but I've started brewing Aeropress daily at work and noticed that it is a bit inconsistent. This will definitely help me look for my next hand grinder. Cheers

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Good stuff!

@ToucanSamich 3 года назад

great video, I really appreciate the sifting results too. I use a 1Zpresso JX Pro at home, it's fantastic and a massive step up from the breville smart grinder pro, especially when considering the amount of grind retention you get in the breville, 20% of your grounds are stale unless you fully clean it out each time. With the 1Zpresso, I drop 16g in and get 15.9g out and get that last 0.1g with a quick brush around the bottom of the burrs. I just ordered a Timemore C2 for $57USD to use at work, 1Zpresso Q2 would have been my pick, but it's nearly double the cost.

@HomerIncognito 2 года назад

How's the Timemore compared to the JX Pro?

@Oasischaos 3 года назад

Own Jx for about a year, definitely a beast for pour over or espresso

@erich7861 3 года назад

Really good video! Ive been looking for something like this for a while. The one thing I wish was included was the capacity of each. Im on a budget and the C2 was my frontrunner until I found out it's capacity is like 22-25g.

@chef_and_coffee 3 года назад

I have a Kinu M47 Classic, it's a pricey but I absolutely love it.

@Waisonian 3 года назад

Enjoyed watching this. Interesting to know that VSSL and Varia use the same burr set. I wonder if they also source the Titanium set that Timemore sells, too. Would love to get my hand on the 1ZPRESSO, but sadly, I already have the C2 and the Cafflano Krinder so probably won't yet! Also, fun to see Rogue Wave Coffee in the links (one of my fave coffee places in Edm.) Keep up the good coffee work!

@6minus3minus2 3 года назад

It's worth it checking out the Xeoleo hand-grinder. It's similar to the Timemore, but it's all metal and $40-50. I've been using it for a year or so and I love it. My coffee tastes delicious, it's easy to clean and since it's all metal it has a nice heft. It also grinds about 20 grams in 30-ish seconds. Their descriptions are kinda barebones, but I'm very happy with it. I'd get another.

@df540148 3 года назад

FYI, the JX Pro is still a stepped grinder with just way more steps than the regular JX. I love it for pourover and have used it a couple times for espresso (does really well!). The step adjustment on the top along is worth the modest upgrade.

@manuelpenaruiz3694 3 года назад

Just received my Normcore and can say it's absolutely brilliant. Super fast and ultra consistent! My coffee tastes like never before

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Glad to hear it!

@real1997 3 года назад

1zpresso Jx pro is phenomenal for espresso. Built like a rolls Royce. Good video mate.

@roshans5275 3 года назад

This video couldn’t have been more perfectly timed

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Glad to hear it

@Supervisentti 2 года назад

Goddamn nice sound design and mixing! Respect!

@slush714 2 года назад

Hey Kyle! Just found your channel (and subbed) after buying a gaggia classic and getting back into pour overs as well. Can you go into a bit more detail regarding the "types of cup" you mentioned a couple times? How do the Burr sets affect the sweetness vs clarity? Seems like every time I figure stuff out, the rabbit hole goes deeper haha

@bestboy897 2 года назад

your vids r so good bro and thhis vid iss among your very best greaat review

@dlewis8917 2 года назад

Great video. The jx Pro, which I've got, doesn't have stepless adjustment just has finer adjustment between numbers.

@philcurry4959 2 года назад

Well this definitely convinced me to pull the trigger with the Normcore, though I'm not getting that particular model

@jakke1975 2 года назад

I wish I had discovered your channel before I bought my Hario =p My preference goes a little more towards the sweeter notes in coffee instead of the bright acidity, but that's just personal taste. You rarely see these type of comments however when you browse through reviews on Amazon or other shopping sites, so kudos to you. If you're hand grinding your beans, that means you appreciate and care for the delicate notes that each coffee has to offer so this info is very important to the buyer.

@biggusd534 2 года назад

Hey Kyle, great video! Helped me to decide on my Timemore C2 (upgraded version with metal adjustment) as a starter for 50 Bucks on promo. Love it for my aeropress. Upgrading to 1ZPresso JX Pro, K or JMax for espresso!

@edwickson 3 года назад

I guess I'll hit timemore c2 while saving money for comandante (or niche of course)

@robojimtv Год назад

Bonus fun point for the Porlex is that it fits perfectly inside the Aeropress piston so it's part of my travel set for coffee making.

@jamesdunn7136 5 месяцев назад

I enjoyed the video. It was a job well done.

@The_Ubatron 2 года назад

Thanks, Kyle :) Picked up on this video a little late, but, for what it's worth, I'd say using the same outsourced burr set is similarly conventional practice as, say, pick-ups in the guitar industry. Consumers get to know the hardware that goes into a product, so, as long as product manufacturers are open about this - and hardware designers/makers get credit where it is due - is all good. In fact, it's a win-win for the burr folk because they can market their burrs with distinction. And, as coffee held are already doing, burrs can be swapped out upgraded or, maybe one day, custom-fitted. Imagine a premium grinder with a simple mechanism that allows for super quick burr changes... Anyway, thanks again for your work, Kyle!

@eriktishenko5426 2 года назад

Kyle, you make me want to buy everything you review.

@bulgariastan 2 года назад

After watching this, I got the 1zpresso JX to take on trips, but because it's so fun to use and produces such consistent grinds, I end up using it at home a lot too. I might not sophisticated enough to taste the difference, but the beds on my v60 brews seem a little muddier when using the Baratza Encore, although I still enjoy using it too.

@thanasispinkflo 3 года назад

Very nice review! I have the Hero S01 grinder. It has a same burr set like C2 but with double the adjustment clicks so it can grind espresso.

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Right on!

@thanasispinkflo 3 года назад

@@KyleRowsell and the best part is that it has a lower price range than C2. I purchased it for 38 euros 🥰

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

@@thanasispinkflo hard to beat that

@onipise 3 года назад

Great comparison vid, thanks! I started with a Hario Skerton, which lasted some years, but a year ago made the transition to an 1Zpresso JX and a Timemore Nano. The former at home and the latter for work (moving around). But, as any hobby, 1 or 2 is never enough and I got curious with the Normcore and the Varia!

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing! So many great options to choose from!

@sebaba001 3 года назад

How'd you compare the nano to the jx?

@kc-me6wl 3 года назад

Perfect video and perfect timing as i step into the world of coffee grinders. For me its a throw up between vssl (for compactness) and 1zepresso simply due to the good reviews! Thanks again for great review

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Glad to hear it!

@arna437 3 года назад

great review! Wish these options were there when I started. I had pretty much only choice between the hario ones and the boxy vintage looking zassenhaus. Went for the zassenhaus (which wasn't great) and then the slim mill. While it does the job, the commandante is miles above.

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing!

@jaling94 3 года назад

Great video! I have c2 because of its cheaper price. If i got the chance, maybe a JX pro will be great.

@philmeyers9647 3 года назад

I have the JX Pro, it's so, so good.

@MBicharaa 2 года назад

great review. I wish you could update with the comparison including the Timemore Slim plus with the E&B burrs. I think its one of the best choices for the price under $100, and it can make a very decent expresso or pour over. It definetly seems to be in a different step of premium grinders

@auralistank 2 года назад

I still have the Hario I bought in 2014 until I can get the money together for an upgrade. It's absolutely not ideal but surprisingly decent with a lever machine where you can compensate for inconsistencies with flow rate adjustments.

@note2you 3 года назад

nice reviews, thanks Kyle Rowsell

@witoldwuczkowski806 3 года назад

Great video, could you compare 1zpresso JX with Comandante?

@noraliu6442 2 года назад

thank you for the review. really informative comparison.

@KyleRowsell 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@KrazyShark 3 года назад

Having a Hario Mini, i might go for the Timemore or the Normcore cause grinding coffee for minutes is not a fun experience. Really glad i found this comparison, top tier review, thank you so much.

@TheBase94 3 года назад

Same situation here. I have a very cheap manual grinder (Bialetti DCDesign03) I bought for 20€ last week to discover manual grinders, but the experience is poor and yes, it takes so much time. I am also thinking about Timemore/Normcore, they can be found both for around 80€ ; Varia is also another option just a bit pricier (95€ from what I found). Should be much better than the cheap solution

@rickrichardson1141 3 года назад

I’ve got the Timemore Nano and am quite happy with it. Only minor drawback for me is its 15g capacity (I can get 17) but any grinder that fit’s inside my Aeropress makes me stand up

@bonezed 2 года назад

yup, great little unit! it's become my primary grinder

@jdupuis4829 3 года назад

I have a Lido E and A 1Zpresso JE and they are both great. I now use the Lido mainly for aeropress and pour overs and the 1Zpresso for espresso :) Cheers from Fredericon, NB!

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing! Have a wonderful day!

@SeanGT83 3 года назад

Thanks for commenting as I was recommended the Lido by a retail coffee specialist, but have ordered the jx-pro and awaiting delivery. The focus on espresso and speed sealed the deal.

@AnonYmous-wf1oz 2 года назад

Is there a reason for using the 1Zpresso for espresso when you have the Lido E? The lido should in theory be better for Espresso than the 1Zpresso.

@MoustermindTCG 3 года назад

Me being Bri'ish: Hmnn. That one-zed-presso looks rather intriguing 🧐

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

It's a great grinder.

@matiaschacana5768 3 года назад

@@KyleRowsell how does it compare to the Comandante C40? If you did a video about the JX vs high end hand grinders would be amazing.

@aedards 3 года назад

Me too 😂

@Anthony0855 3 года назад

@@matiaschacana5768 im new to all this what is better hand grinders or electric

@matiaschacana5768 3 года назад

@@Anthony0855 It depends. Are you willing to hand grind your dose for a couple of seconds/minutes? Do you have the money for an electric? Do you want to travel and move around with your grinder and coffee gear? Do you have enough space in your counter for a grinder?

@jaydenhamten9084 3 года назад

Great video! Came here from Coffee with Carl

@illlovu2morrow Год назад

Great content! What's your background music? Love it!

@dougschust1 10 месяцев назад

Solid coffee grinder works well. I like it.

@kamelthorn 3 года назад

Great review!

@jilliemcnilly2037 3 года назад

Awesome review! Was first thinking about the baratza encore but thanks to this, I'm now thinking of getting the timemore c2 or the 1zpresso jx or shell out a bit more for the jx pro (considering I might try espresso in the future). But there's another brand I'm considering and would love to know what you think about it - the KinGrinder k2.. Hope to see your review of this one soon and maybe a comparison to the jx pro. Cheers! ☕

@louloudallasmultipass 3 года назад

I have the 1Zpresso Kplus and it’s amazing. I use it for espresso as well as drip coffee and it works so well. Give the Kplus a try I think you’ll love it

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing!!

@benjaminshepard Год назад

Thanks, Kyle! I enjoyed your presentation style (though some of the cuts had you nearly talking over yourself), and the quantitative comparison of particle size was something very useful that I haven't seen before. My 10-year-old Slim is nearly due to be replaced, and hearing your thoughts on steel vs. ceramic burrs is going to be helpful. One attribute that would be very handy to know regarding packability would be which grinders will fit inside the piston of an Aeropress. Some grinders (Porlex and Javapresse come to mind) use this as a selling point, and I'd be inclined to consider that as a decision-making feature once other features have narrowed down the field. One thought about the VSSL: you're correct about it being a niche product, although I would argue that consistency in grind for espresso should be irrelevant. If your use case is backpacking (and I'd argue it's fair to assume that this or similar portability concerns would be the main consideration that would bring this to the top of someone's candidate list), I'm not sure any espresso machine would fall within the criteria of that scenario. I'd even argue more generally that if you're making espresso while you're camping, you're doing one of those things wrong. 😉 Can't wait to check out more of your videos!

@coardcreatif Год назад

I got Hario Slim for $9 from Prime Day. To prevent inconsistent grind you can crack the beans with loosen settings and adjust it to your desired thickness then start grinding.

@SeeressAspasia 2 года назад

I love watching your videos. They're a great complement to James Hoffman's, filling the gaps in my curiosity. That's a pretty impressive feat! So, why would it be a scandal that multiple companies use the same burrs? It's totally normal for parts to be a specialization of a handful of manufacturers that supply various product designers. Having a grinder as a product does not mean you have to design every component. Think of computers. Lots of different computer companies make computers using chips made by the same few companies. I hear you about the transparency thing. It would be cool if we all knew what various kinds of burrs were available and which grinders use them or have proprietary ones. I just don't see any reason for scandal regarding burr sourcing.

@MrMatigraff 3 года назад

Great vídeo!! Greetings from Argentina

@ismiregalichkochdasjetztso3232 3 года назад

This video dropped about an hour after I got the shipping confirmation for the Timemore C2. Good to see this wasn't a bad choice! Intended use is for the moka in the camper, not for espresso. I contemplated the 1zpresso jx, but couldn't find it for a reasonable price, it was only a few bucks cheaper than the jx pro, which seems like a good choice for espresso. But for just a bit more one can get the Rok GC, which is what I am using for my stationary espresso setup.

@tigonridge 3 года назад

The Rok GC burr is a very common burr found in grinders as cheap as $50. It should grind nowhere near as fast as a JX, and its grind should not be as uniform as the JX. It's a very expensive gadget that takes up more counter space, while lacking portability and grind quality.

@kristobaljunta 3 года назад

Thanks for the great video and the detailed comparison! Many of the reviews lack just that extra bit of detail. Personally I chose Timemore C2, and am actually quite happy with it. Got one shipped from China for US $62, so that makes it even better in terms of value for money. Also (probably I got some newer version) the adjustment knob is actually metal on mine. One small remark: watching the video I couldn't help but notice all those little cuts, especially in the middle of the phrases or sentences

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

Thanks for the comment Eugene. And yes, I’ve addressed that. Tried a new edit style in 2 vids, but won’t be doing that going forward

@kristobaljunta 3 года назад

@@KyleRowsell nice! It was actually first vid from your channel that I've watched, but I really liked it and it definitely won't be the last one 🙂

@KyleRowsell 3 года назад

@@kristobaljunta thanks for joining along!