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Cold Steel 4 Max Scout VS Original 4 Max - Worth the Money? 

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Is it worth searching the secondary for an original 4 Max or is the 4 Max Scout plenty good enough?
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@jmas2190
@jmas2190 2 года назад
Just picked up 4max scout on sale 75 bucks and I'm blown away by how well made this knife is. This knife went through many torcher test videos and for the price I paid can't believe what it could own 6 times higher priced knifes and I would trust this any day of the week amazing build quality and the feel of the handle is like rubber grip that's in my microtech socks can't believe the build quality. I have every high end steel out there aus10 has blown me away cold steel killed it .
@DDDYLN
@DDDYLN 10 месяцев назад
I have a master's in mechanical engineering from Stanford, and worked nearly my whole career as a spacecraft engineer. That certainly doesn't make me a metallurgist or materials engineer, but I did have to take classes on both. At the time of writing this comment, Cold Steel currently offers the 4 Max Elite, which is s35vn. From everything I've read, watched, and experienced in real life, there's very little difference between steels like Cold Steel's AUS-10A, s35vn, AUS-8A, 20CV, and VG10. S35vn is considered a super-steel (super stainless steel). What does that mean? It essentially means it will hold an edge longer. However, it's harder, and more likely to chip, rather than roll. Personally, I'm a big fan of both AUS-8A and AUS-10A. They're stainless (unless you live next to salt water), they hold an edge decently long, they're very tough, and they're easy to sharpen. Essentially, they're "bend-but-don't-break", high carbon stainless steels. IMO, they should be considered super steels. What I'm trying to illustrate, is that you're likely not going to notice much difference if you buy the same knife with s35vn, for 4 times the price as the AUS-10A version. And if you happen to chip your $400 4 Max Elite, you're going to be very upset. If you roll the edge of your $75 4 Max Scout, you'll probably just say "eh", and then fix the roll.
@franksalem8580
@franksalem8580 4 года назад
It should be mentioned that there were two versions of the American made knife. The truly original one had a dog leg in the bar for the lock back release unlike the smooth bar on the version that Bryan owns. It took me a long time but I finally found the dog leg version and it is a pleasure to open and close.
@mikechallis1801
@mikechallis1801 4 года назад
I have edc’d the Italian one for a long time now and love it
@colinburgess9455
@colinburgess9455 4 года назад
I’d have to agree on the qc. Issues on the 4MAX, I recently bought one and had the same issues but I’m completely happy with it after pulling it apart and fixing the problems..
@LarsBreuning
@LarsBreuning Год назад
The first run of the US made 4 Max was riddled with QC issues, to the point they moved the production to Italy. Later on, after fixing the QC issues, they resumed production in the US. I have 2 Italian made 4 Max and 6 Scouts (2 DLC version from DLT Trading and 4 regular Scouts). They are all insanely strong, but in a life or death situation, I will always chose the Italian 4 max.
@informationexchange4085
@informationexchange4085 2 года назад
Thanks for this review! I was looking for another and only see the Scout as my only option. I do own both, the Italian and USA versions of the original 4Max. The quality control is definitely much better in the Italian made 4Max, especially in the jimping like you mentioned - the Italian version has higher, cleaner ridges. I also prefer the Italian's grey G-10 wood-like grain handle where it blends so much nicer with the bead blasted blade. I'll be picking up this Cold Steel 4Max Scout, it looks like it'll do most jobs just as well... sharpening maybe a little more frequent but it'll be much easier.
@carlostovar8585
@carlostovar8585 2 года назад
I wish I had the Italian version. Or at least the American version. But I’m thankful I was able to get the scout
@jorgefernandez6407
@jorgefernandez6407 2 года назад
Just received my Scout. An EXCELLENT knife. More knife than what I'll probably ever need... Really happy I got it!!!
@grimreaper6042
@grimreaper6042 4 года назад
I have the Scout and I am completely happy with it!!! plus I have $300.00 to spend on other knives great video Bryan thanks
@wellingtonblackwell3118
@wellingtonblackwell3118 2 года назад
My cousin bought the USA made version. But both the Italian and USA made versions are out of my price league. I did buy a 4Max Scout for under $80 from Amazon sometime ago. Although I am a Cold Steel fan, my Recon Tanto San Mai 3 is the only Cold Steel knife that I dropped $100+ for, and that is because I wanted a Cold Steel knife from Japan AND I had the cash to treat myself. The rest of my Cold Steel knives, machetes, and other tools were under $90 when I bought them. But Cold Steel puts quality in all of their products, so you can go wrong, no matter where your budget is. Nice video though.
@tungsten_kirbide
@tungsten_kirbide 4 года назад
How are you liking the American blade works model 1 v4?
@EightSlingshot
@EightSlingshot 3 года назад
By your review.i just get it the 4max Scout.thanks on the review.
@SomoneTookMyName
@SomoneTookMyName 3 года назад
Own the Italian version of the 4-max. Love the thing. I got it over the USA version due to the color. What is better is debatable. I will say that just because it says USA on it does not mean its batter.
@justinbelcher3389
@justinbelcher3389 4 года назад
Hi Brian I pray that your feeling better. I went to Myrtle Beach for fathers day to visit my parents recently and I went to SEKW just to see what all of the fuss was about. That was a nice shop!!! Just wished i would have had more money to blow. Lol
@chaddamron3877
@chaddamron3877 4 года назад
Awesome thx for stopping in 👍👍
@justinbelcher3389
@justinbelcher3389 4 года назад
@@chaddamron3877 Ill definitely be back and I'm getting ready to order a long sleeve t shirt from you guys.
@j.w.greenbaum
@j.w.greenbaum 3 года назад
I have the Italian version, which is made by LionSteel, and I'd say it's quite a bit better than the US-made version (which I've handled, but do not own). The fit and finish are definitely better, but where you really notice the Italian version shining is the action. It's that same, drop-shut action the Scout has and except for my Cold Steel AD-10, it's probably the best Tri-Ad Lock I own. It's also easier to disengage thanks to having a slight indent on the lockbar. Would love to give the new Taiwanese S35VN version a look and I certainly wouldn't turn down a Scout if I came across one at a good price. Nice design overall and it's kinda cool to see how many different takes there have been on it.
@NewtonWashinton
@NewtonWashinton 2 года назад
Yeah, I got bit by my Scout so I use both hands now opening & closing. AUS10A is a good steel.
@tungsten_kirbide
@tungsten_kirbide 4 года назад
I would take either!
@Canadaman4403
@Canadaman4403 Год назад
Luv the honesty
@klaassiersma4892
@klaassiersma4892 4 года назад
I have the usa one,and i love it to death. I got it when the Italian one did not exist yet. Wil i get the scout? I'l bet ya.
@chrisjaskulski8613
@chrisjaskulski8613 4 года назад
Can I get one in Damasteel and Timascus?
@henricokski5549
@henricokski5549 3 года назад
Carry one on each side, nearly 2 pounds of apocalypse steel right there. Lynn Thompson would approve.
@lutylives1852
@lutylives1852 3 года назад
If one shows up gently used or by some miracle GSM bring it back, I have to get me a 4-Max. I just hate the griv-ex handle with the DIY looking grip pattern so much.
@rpjii9771
@rpjii9771 Год назад
A lil late to the party though having all of the 4-Max models, and as a National Ski Patroller, I alternated the US version 4-Max with the Italian and the Elite, and while the Italian version is an excellent hard-core knife, I would take the US version all day, every day, 7/365!! 16:06 I preferred the fit/finish of the US version, with the only feature/area that I would give the nod to the Italian Max us with the tension of the pocket clip, as it's easier to separate from the scale when clipping to pants. It is actually thinner than the US version, which may or may not compromise long term robustness though there is absolutely nothing in its appearance or performance that leads me to say this, other than a cosmetic based opinion. It continued to work superbly🤙 Actually, if one just wanted one insanely obnoxiously offensively bad@ss knife, that will do EVERYTHING that they tell you NOT to do with a knife, I would grab a 4-Max Scout!! It's one of the greatest values in the knife world and the perfect knife to pull out in response to the guy who thinks that their Troodon Combat is the sh!t, lol😉 Nice vid🤙 Continued Success🍻 RP
@jeffcon123
@jeffcon123 4 года назад
SIIIINCE the 4 maxx was availble for so long before the scout came along.. I’d say the 4maxx is worth the money.. but the scout is super good.. like incredible for the price for sure.. just the sheer amount of steel.. lol I’ve got the Italian one a friend gifted to me I love it. For work and daily.. aside from it def not shorts friendly lol.. work pants and jeans ok.. sweats and anything else.. nah 😊😊😍
@jared8530
@jared8530 Год назад
Bought a 4MAX Scout recently and ive done things that most people are scared to do with their "full tang" fixed blades.... i paid 70 dollars on Amazon for it and i tell you its an incredible deal from Lynn and Demko.
@BLACKOPS6391
@BLACKOPS6391 3 года назад
I've been annoying my wife with my new Espada XL hehe
@darrylreformina1438
@darrylreformina1438 3 года назад
I love my US version 4-Max. I'm blessed to have one. Stay safe and GOD bless everyone > 🤙🏽
@a.d.c7941
@a.d.c7941 2 года назад
Want to sell it???
@darrylreformina1438
@darrylreformina1438 2 года назад
@@a.d.c7941 I'll be keeping it for the time being, but that you for asking 🤙🏽
@a.d.c7941
@a.d.c7941 2 года назад
@@darrylreformina1438 Ok bro, please reach out to me of u ever change your mind.
@lenzielenski3276
@lenzielenski3276 4 года назад
The Italian 4MAX is slightly better than the US made the same way the US is slightly better than the Scout. IMHO.
@DvBattlegears
@DvBattlegears 3 года назад
Wrong Italian one are garbage lowers quality the usa made one, you don't know what you're talking about untill you dissemble one compared milling works, anything from coldsteel made in Italy is garbage and have so much complaining, now coldsteel switching back to Taiwan, i also have the storm cloud from coldsteel made in Italy and the milling is crooked it the pin slightly misaligned, i have about 11 recon one made in Taiwan never see this shit happen
@lenzielenski3276
@lenzielenski3276 3 года назад
@@DvBattlegears I think if you survey reviews you will find they all agree with me. Let me ask, do you disassemble your cars motor, too, to decide if it's well made?
@Rusonekox9
@Rusonekox9 3 года назад
Funny i will tell you the proper way to close any triad lock. Blade down angle the tip of the knife towards the floor then press the lock release, once the blade is free it will slide down slightly (it won't go all the way) ok now let go of the lock bar and close it. It works every time as long as you point the blade towards the floor.
@Deadtileyedie
@Deadtileyedie 3 года назад
Yeah I got bit to many times by my sr1. I started doing it this way and I definitely prefer it.
@joshuamurphy7165
@joshuamurphy7165 2 года назад
Great advice as I've never owned a triad lock and just ordered one. I'll put your advice to good use. Thanks
@solidus1995
@solidus1995 3 года назад
Wish they had carbon fiber scales
@NotBull068
@NotBull068 3 года назад
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@Pokipoki1234
@Pokipoki1234 3 года назад
Italian version was made by Lionsteel
@williamdabill
@williamdabill 2 года назад
I gor an Italian 4 max on ebay lucky find in mycase i dont like using facebook knife groups been scammed on them
@Kyle-bb9zp
@Kyle-bb9zp 3 месяца назад
Awesome knife 70 dollars on Amazon in 2024
@hawaiiknifeandgear5531
@hawaiiknifeandgear5531 4 года назад
I love my 4Max Scout, it is a beast of a knife. I'm sure even the expensive version could take some abuse.
@hawaiiknifeandgear5531
@hawaiiknifeandgear5531 3 года назад
@Walker Derick I would wash it really well with soap and water using a blue dish sponge then dry it out completely (hair dryer works on cool setting). Then relubricate the pivot with vegetable or coconut oil, something food safe. Biggest concern is making sure the blade is pointed down when releasing the back lock. The blade is really heavy and will come down like a guillotine on your finger if it's above the handle when you disengage it. (Happened twice to me already 😂)
@hawaiiknifeandgear5531
@hawaiiknifeandgear5531 3 года назад
@Walker Derick I believe the blade is actually made of vg10 steel which is a form of stainless steel. The smell that you were smelling was probably whatever oil or lubricant they used before they shipped the knife. The blade itself is perfectly fine for use with food as soon as you clean off any of the oil that it was shipped with
@hawaiiknifeandgear5531
@hawaiiknifeandgear5531 3 года назад
@Walker Derick and the pivot refers to the screw that goes through the blade where it pivots to open and close. There are washers on both sides of the blade and that's what allows the knife to open and close easily. You just want to make sure you get a drop or two of oil down inside those washers to keep them lubricated
@williammcintyre1396
@williammcintyre1396 4 года назад
When I carry my 4 MAX SCOUT it's the right rear pocket. I find it to be more comfortable and easier to access.
@williammcintyre1396
@williammcintyre1396 4 года назад
@@8dollars276 Keep all the way to the right side and sit on it. My wallet s always in my left rear pocket.
@Deadtileyedie
@Deadtileyedie 3 года назад
Same. I always carry a larger harder use type knife(ad15 lite, sr1, microtech socom elite manual, spyderco shaman) in my back right pocket and another smaller 3" or so Small profile knife. As much as I hate them when I carry them in my back pocket I put a small lanyard on it to make Deployment faster
@doctoruttley
@doctoruttley 3 года назад
🤨
@tacklecentralfishing1051
@tacklecentralfishing1051 4 года назад
Well the high end 4max was american made...
@chaddamron3877
@chaddamron3877 4 года назад
Bacon + 4max = awesome 😂😂😂
@TheLastRanger
@TheLastRanger 4 года назад
You have a fear of walking around your house?
@CNYKnifeNerd
@CNYKnifeNerd 4 года назад
He gave several examples of use, after that statement, that have nothing to do with self defense. What a douchey, ignorant thing to say.
@tacklecentralfishing1051
@tacklecentralfishing1051 4 года назад
Do you?
@tacklecentralfishing1051
@tacklecentralfishing1051 4 года назад
If so you should get a Chihuahua.
@TheLastRanger
@TheLastRanger 4 года назад
Do you realize sarcasm when you read it? 🙄
@TheLastRanger
@TheLastRanger 4 года назад
Such dumbass’s lol
@maxbravo9685
@maxbravo9685 4 года назад
Also to like
@CNYKnifeNerd
@CNYKnifeNerd 4 года назад
Your own comments??
@maxbravo9685
@maxbravo9685 4 года назад
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