Colditz TV Series S02-E04 - The Guests 

Sure lol

There was very good movies (stories), this time was in agitation after the Vietnam war. All was changing, a new freedom in life, it was like coming out from a dark âge. The aftermath of WW2 was paid. One shadow, the cold war but it didn't stop this new happyness; impossible. The great difference was tecnical. In 10 years health, made 40 years of progress, and it was the same thing in all, cars, homes, PC's, planes, furniture, etc... except may be education, wich was and is a strong castle from middle âge for old beards. 😂 WE WERE HAPPY ! ❤🎉, very more than now. A mood of happyness. (You can see than the quality of pictures is pure shit if you compare with today)😢😮😅❤🎉 (Remember than in France 🇨🇵 , we had not 2 WWars but 3, 1870,1914, 1939. And the top of happyness, we didn't have any army since 1873. YOOOPYYYYYY !!!🎉

By the way, what is this shitty greeting given by the sentinel to the officer (at 1mn 38 sec). I have never seen that ? 😮😮😮

No shoestring buget there

derek check out secret army.its made by the same team some of the same actors.its about the escape lines set up by mi6 and the french/Belgian resistance.its very accurate and great performances as well.and yes why dont they make tv like this anymore?

@@patreidcocolditzcastle632 What it's full of white men and it doesn't even point out their toxic masculinity.

@@COIcultist wish i was smart enough to work out this comment,i guess being a old man has its bonus,s ......

@@COIcultist im in trouble for suggesting to someone a program,very strange unless your comment is a joke i dont get,btw im not the type to protest in the middle of a pandemic,and i also dont believe trump is a lizard alien

@@patreidcocolditzcastle632 I think COIcultist means this isn't wrecked by over the top political correctness standards and American hyperbole. Today, shows need a range of races to be represented so they don't get complaints. The women would get insulted for not having a heroine. And if this was made in America today, they'd probably have to include a steamy sex scene between a POW and a German nurse called Helga.

Bernard Cribbins as an SOE operative next episode!

@@alundavies1016 Why not? Bernard served as a para.

@@kaikito7662 I am sure he would have been spectacular!

He was probably having a good day.

I have always found his looks repellent and repulsive...the more so the older he got....looks th ed part of an SS officer though; the classic "Bad Nazi" as opposed to those who were always the Good Nazis.

@@leilal8053 No such thing as ''good' Nazi.

Both times I was so shocked he always eases himself into seats normally.

@@dindinprivate3477 There were 2 two actors....canal girls 4 bg the life of me bv remember their names who always played the part [often in the same movie] of just of that....SS officers who disapproved of the Nazi regime and cruelty but were caught up in i. They were always the "good guys" helping the hero escape. etc.

ye i loved that line to.the actual security officer eggers was dead against the nazi regime,he was a classic Wehrmacht man who stuck strictly to the Geneva convention.i dont see isis doing this...

@@patreidcocolditzcastle632 I don't see American black sites doing this either.

He's great actor

Steals every scene he is in ...great actor

He lived to the great age of 95. A great actor, he was one of the highlights of this series. RIP

@@raykhetab4890 awesome quality from these guys back then

Tyneside Irish, Patrick Durkin RIP......

Very good, never have got that one.

What a lightweight, being outdrunk by Marion Ravenwood.

Which is nice

Amusing but I wish we'd known his full name, we know all the others...

Hannah Evans Well the barbers name is Herr Cutt.

His first name is Karl. His last name is never revealed.

@@DarkLight753 Well we can guess that its not Klink.

@@DarkLight753 i think it is in one brief moment in or im might be thinking of its review on idbm .they say all there full stage names on the review

A lot of great character actors in enemy at the 🚪

Checked. Only bits on UT and a general search on Google comes to nothing (deleted) shame I remember it

I watched while it was still on-line. Then I found at that one of the former islanders who had gotten out in time, then returned as a British Commando, was none other than a very young Rupert Giles!

Old Willie Rushton... what a great multi-talented man. They don't make many like him anymore. He died in 1996 much too young at the age of 59. God Bless him!

He was so talented.

Adrenalin...

Amphetamines.

Meth.

@@eddiefaccioni2453 Pervitin, perhaps

Not done on any computer. It was simply taking two pictures, one with Anthony Valentine and the other one of Hitler. They cut the two together, photocopied it, and pasted it into the frame. All done by hand and not a computer used.

@@johnking5174 I know. Probably thought they were being clever. Which they were lol

Dumb comment.

My point of view is, 99% of modern series and movies is vastly inferior to series like Colditz. Even with hundred million pound/dollar budgets and "talented" actors. Everything is so flat and boring. It looks good but lacks depth. At least the very most of it.

@@123TauruZ321 I completely agree with you

the ending is a nod to the real instances of that law hitler bought in.the SS did do this.i think there was a commandos trial in 1946 against the perpetrators

@@patreidcocolditzcastle632 The SAS also had people searching for perpetrators in Germany after the war.

No, it was a power play move. By having Ulmann sitting down, Mohnn enforces his authority by standing. He is centre of attention, Ulmann has to look up to him. By standing and walking around Ulmann, Mohn is imposing his authority over him.

derek it is realistic ,commandos btw back then were not as fit as we think,basically commandos were a new thing in 1940,they did train hard but one thing they all had was a lack of fear or care for there own life.so its actually accurate.like they would be crazy enough to do those dangerous missions,well the guy playing the commando leader is a perfect example.but in this the commandos are to british to be realistic.in reality they would be quiet determined men.theres some good reading in the british war files on the type that made a commando.a lot of them had lost family in the blitz.i found that fascinating but obvious.anyways just thought you might be interested in the topic

So in essence, commandos were the British version of Kamikazes, only they pretended they'd back in time for tea and biscuits.

@@jackshit71 i did,nt word that right what i meant was the training regime was not like the modern commandos,mind you if you look at the manuals from back then and nowadays commandos you will notice the old manual has a lot more hand to hand permanent elimination techniques

gallery.commandoveterans.org/cdoGallery/v/units/ (Not sure if there is a Scottish unit here)

The commando Major looks to have been modelled on Lord Lovatt who held the rank of Major and commanded a detachment of 4 commando,he sometimes wore a kilt and carried a broad sword into battle.The demise of the commandos as depicted was also accurate,Hitler ordered that any commandos captured by the Germans were to be shot as spies.

Yes, as you vould say errm 'very assletically'

Especially for a man who doesn't have as much of his stomach left as most people.

I might watch this again it was a good show.

MATTHEW QUIGLEY he had got better

Anthony and I hare a birthday but not a year.

Anthony and I hare a birthday but not a year.

Anthony and I hare a birthday but not a year.

Anthony and I hare a birthday but not a year.

Anthony and I hare a birthday but not a year.

How'd he get in the commandos if a woman can out drink him😊

There were these gung-ho idiots in the commando units and in the army back then. Many of them were drafted into the commando unit by force.

I knew a fella who worked at a pub some years ago fit but quiet 5ft4 10 stone if he's a day wouldn't hurt a fly. One day he came to work and revealed he was leaving to train as a Royal Marine, there was much laughter, one big mouth lout said " you'll be back in a week" between jokes. Last time I heard he was a officer....never judge a book.

@@malcolmclements9254 Yeah height ain't important as long as somebody's got the heart of a lion..:)

@@tungstenkid2271 Absolutely Tungsten, his about the SAS? Nearly all the Iran Embassy SAS were short and wiry.

Rushton’s TV persona at that time was as you say but in fairness he wasn’t bad as Trumpington.

Londonfogey and i doubt they were fat twats too

the idea [which is very deliberate] was that commandos did,nt keep well groomed etc as they were always on the job.this is what the directors trying to say,regulation was different for a commando

@@brain8484 The perfect disguise!

Some POWs were transferred to other camps when room was needed at Colditz.

@@bazthehandyman Willy Rushton as a Scotsman you must be joking.

yes... and he has the rank insignia to denote that (1 pip and a crown)... and Lieutenant- Colonels are usually referred to and addressed as _"Colonel"_ . for the sake of ease... just as Lieutenant-Generals, Major-Generals and Generals are all usually addressed as _"General"_ unless there is any particular need to differentiate or it's in a full introduction.

@@damianclark1763 Just for your information but I am sure you already know; a Lieutenant General is one step higher than Major General you would possibly think it was the other way round but it isn't !

Agreed, especially how handy they were in the town jail at the start of the episode. Judging by the build of the officer and sjt I would guess them better brawlers than runners 😆

Incredible! Sgt Arbuckle recovered from being shot by Paddy Boyle on Gallowshields station...

Another inaccuracy is the poster in the hallway at the beginning. It was a campaign poster from before Hitler became Chancellor, a full ten years before. BBC put up something with a bunch of Nazi flags just to be seen. I doubt there would have been such a campaign poster from pre-1933 placed in Colditz Castle at any time. There was better propaganda material during the war for the Germans to feel at home with.

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No his Waffenfarben (corps colours) are Dark Green, not black. That is used for the Militärverwaltung (military administration) of the Luftwaffe. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps_colours_of_the_Luftwaffe_(1935-1945). Colditz gets that right, unlike Hogan's Heroes, where Klink and Schultz have Yellow collar badges, which would make them Paratroops or Aviators, not prison guards.

but then we would not have a plot or story

The SS treated the commandos very differently to regular POWs.

This episode's story and scenes does not require Nazi salutes. There is no scene in this episode where it would be required. However if you look at later episode Very Important Person, when the newly appoint SS chief Berger arrives for a visit with the Kommandant, they greet each other with the Nazi salute. Wehrmacht officers and Luftwaffe officers preferred not to give a full Nazi salute, there was always tension between the SS and the Wehrmacht.

@@johnking5174 I have probably seen too many Hollywood movies over the years. Had a read around at the time and the military did get an exception. There was something that military salutes werent to be given if not in proper uniform so they might have given a HH salute in these cases.

The "Commando Order" was issued in October 1942, placing this episode in either late 1942 or 1943. It was only after the failed assassination attempt on Hitler in July 1944 that the extended arm salute became mandatory for the armed forces. Up until that time, the military services all used their own salutes on most occasions.

Different types German military perform the Heer salute in this episode (as is correct) and one soldier does what I guess is meant to be the "breast pocket" salute (seemingly a variant on the US "shoulder arms salute"). The SD man (in glasses - he is not Waffen SS) indeed salutes military with the Heer salute (and is given a "hand vertical" Nazi salute by the SS "corporal". What he, he glasses guy, is doing here could be a sloppy raised hand or a sloppy Heer salute. Not clear ) but you will note he salutes Major Mohn (49:18) with the Party Salute (and gets that back in return) - presumably because they are both Party members.

They did Nazi salutes in some programs....

Anthony Valentine, who died in 2015.

Although it wasn't Himmler being portrayed.

I was thinking the same thing about the one guy. He looked big & strong but a little too big, that type of body would have a hell of a time pulling himself up a rope.

The prisoners had no idea what Mohn encountered on that journey and how he was forced to turn back. The prisoners had no reason to trust what Mohn said, going by his previous devious attitude towards them.

Mohn was as closest to the SS of any Colditz guard, because of his high party contacts in the Nazi Party, Mohn had served on the general staff of Hitler before being transferred to Colditz.

Soon after the British commandos had been established Hitler issued the infamous commando order any SF captured such SAS ,SBS ,commandos or US rangers they would have been subjected to interrogation, torture and execution as saboteurs.

@@johnking5174 That makes some sense John....so Mohn was actually being accused of something he really didnt' do but because of his previous reputation, he was deemed guilty.

@@johnking5174 Remember what Mohn said to the Commandant? There are no rules, in Russia they shot us and we shot them...

Because the pattern was damned effective when the main alternatives were hobnailed leather, plain leather or a thin smooth rubber. Most military, work and hiking boots since are variations of the commando sole pattern. It wasn't exactly a secret that they were a Commando when they jumped out a boat onto an occupied port town, lobbed a pineapple into the nearest pillbox, emptied an SMG at the searchlight, set a few dem charges and had "commando" written on their shoulder flashes. Going home was always preferable but far from guaranteed. Commando raids were to harass the enemy, tie down resources away from the main fronts and to make lightning fast surgical strikes against high value targets.

@@lordsummerisle87 If a commando could elude capture long enough to get away from the scene of his attack, wouldn't he prefer to be counted as a non-commando if he were confronted by Germans elsewhere?

@@christianpatriot7439 A lot of Commando kit was non-standard so stood out like a sore thumb anyway, and AIUI most raids were so far from regular troops that any other explanation wouldn't have washed. Often not even in the same country as regular Allied troops or in the case of the earlier raids on Norway technically not even on the same continent. I don't know how commonly WW2 Commandos wore commando pattern soles, or whether they were actually unique to them. However I think that even if every Commando wore commando soles, and nobody else, it wouldn't be the point on which their "I'm just a typist who got lost 300 miles from my desk" fell apart.

Have you ever tried to obtain the services of a reputable glazier in the height of wartime? ...last escape? Are you saying this window is linked with the disappearance of Carrington and the others?

Don't insult The Wurzels

Ou ar ou ar ay. Ou ar ou ar ay!

The fact is that they were incredibly brave men in real life and they were murdered by the SS when captured. Go make stupid comments elsewhere.

What could Mohn have done?

@@pod831 Mohn could do nothing. If he tried they would stop him. He might even be arrested later on. But with his connections maybe not. But still he couldn't have stopped them. The orders are from SS or SD authorities far higher than a Major.

He couldn't stop an official transfer but he could have insisted on getting the transfer recorded on his orders with a signature from the SD officer (effectively a signed receipt for his prisoners) The SD weasel already showed himself paranoid about records being kept. To work it would have required Mohn to have refused to handover his prisoners without that receipt and the SD to crack under the pressure and not insist on the transfer. Very unlikely to work and even if it did - a guaranteed end to Mohns career?

@@JL999k It think the guy was SS. At any rate, war hero or not, Mohn would find himself in a great deal of trouble. Especially when Himmler hears about the goings-on. That is a direct challenge to his power. He probably would not have Mohn shot but he would be charged with insubordination, I think. No firing squad but it will get you right next door. Probably have him confess to obstructing an order (no public trial) and have him retire due to his war injuries. When the war is over, that would work out quite well for Mohn.

I think it is fairly well established that Mohn is a fanatic Nazi. He was on Hitler's personal staff for a brief time and still thinks of Hitler as his saviour, as any fanatic Nazi at the time. Why do you think he cited the example of how the war was fought on the Eastern Front? Giving no quarter and receiving none. So he thinks he is escorting the prisoners to their next camp, then is confronted by the SD and he puts up token resistance. However, the 'Commando Order' was written by Hitler himself after the daring Commando Raid on Saint-Nazaire (Operation Chariot). Hitler ordered that any British Commando taken prisoner was to be shot. Do you really think Mohn would have refused such an order, coming from his beloved Fuhrer himself? You can see that he isn't that bothered, or even not bothered at all. I do not doubt that upon arriving back at Colditz, he would confirm that the prisoners safely arrived at their camp.

This episode is where Mohn starts to change. He was used and misled by the SD and in a few episodes time he will lose faith in the regime.

I took no pleasure from this episode I assure you

Maybe Churchill sent them to the slaughter, as decoys.

The guy in glasses? He's not Waffen SS. He seems to be marked up 's an SD Hauptsturmführer, and referred to as SD in the script, so basically paramilitary security services with an SS rank, not military. We have a lot of different salutes in this episode. Different types of German military perform the Heer salute and one soldier what seems to be the "breast pocket" salute - seemingly a variant on the US "shoulder arms salute". The SD man (non military) indeed salutes military with the Heer salute. The "Waffen SS corporal" (- ? No rank marks, not even an Oberschütze - so this is odd) gives a clear vertical hand Nazi salute, but the Hauptsturmführer's response is sloppy - and could be anything. However, note that the SD man salutes Major Mohn with the Party Salute. Now, I SUSPECT he is "playing soldiers" when with the military (despite formal protocols I understand that before the attempt on Hitler's life the Heer salute was often, apparently, used by both Waffen SS and Heer combat within and between services) - OR there is an inter-service protocol I'm not aware of - but he then switches to the Party Salute with Mohn because they are both Party members. I'd be more concerned with Rushton's rather sloppy salute; but it's in character and real life is very often not like "the book"...

Except perhaps when he hopped into and out of the motorcycle side car lol

his what i call a genius actor,they dont make them like this anymore

Colditz in reality was an excellent camp to be a POW in - they had excellent food and drink (not as portrayed in the TV version) - Red Cross sent them grooming kits, including soaps, aftershaves and cleaning kits.

Michael Smith You being a expert on these matters tell us how they would look.

I'm pretty sure the kilt wasn't worn on active service in WW2, although it was in WW1.

This was all filmed in TV studios, with a multi camera set up used, so this was the style at the time for British drama on videotape.

To be fair you were a "bit of a Dick" in Robin of Sherwood and Lovejoy too, but nevertheless good to see you managed to find a life after escaping slung under the cart.