Cole MacGrath vs Alex Mercer (Infamous VS Prototype) | DEATH BATTLE! 

I mean what could they have with Second Son?? I agree though, Prototype was a cool series and I enjoyed playing it through somewhat,

No it's good they didn't support them no more and not run them into the ground and corrupted by microtransaction and just burned out.

At the very least - Use the idea behind Prototype to make a Venom game.

​@@NARUTO-lz1kqI did like second son so I would like a sequel to it lol

​@@shadowgear7032 Same here.

I just beat infamous 2 again recently with the evil ending, plus having the reaper skin on Cole, it made that line hit with a much darker meaning

​@@KingShalamarhow do you change skins on infamous 2, I remember it as a kid but I totally forgot how to do it

@@GlobalOutcast Somewhere in settings after you've bought it

Casually ignores all the times I stepped in a puddle and stopped random civilian's hearts on complete accident. >.>

TRUTH! I agree.

Mostly Alex.

Honestly if Cole were a comic book hero Alex would probably be one of his best villains. They thematically similar they both have potential ways to win a fight against one another and if we use good cole we have get an interesting philosophic contrast as well. Plus Alex’s powers give him a good excuse to come back repeatedly which is great for mainstay villain

​@@robrockstar9648I'd read that.

You just gave a good idea for an Infamous 3@@robrockstar9648

Anti-Hero vs Anti-Villain

Is that a Dr who reference?

@@peterstoric6560 Is it? I don't think so.

@@wisdomcube3.019 it’s a hell of a coincidence then. The line, “You’re not a god, your just a parasite” is right out of an episode of Dr who

Is it a Venom reference?

@@Sean-Johnson it's a Doctor Who reference.

Same

I'm glad you think so.

WE waited 9 years for this Deathbattle

Wake me up when they do Warhammer 40k one day :P

Me too

Indeed it was, narratively too!

It suits Cole perfectly tbh. Badass line and superhero.

It genuinely feels like it's something Cole would say, as well. It's very in character.

The proper response to any politician

@@kin4386 my favorite is “the only vermin I see here is you”

Hold up! Let him cook!

The fact Alex is a literal parasite who can survive if even a scrap of him survives does so much. Because a small chunk of flesh that gets eaten by a bug or a desperate animal will start it all over again.

DON'T GET ME HYPED UP FOR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN GOD DAMMIT!!!

Also like any good Comic Book Villain he can always come back and torment Cole

​@@Broomer52their contrast also is basically Superman vs Braniac/Lex Luthor in dynamic, Cole is a Working Man's Hero, he is just a Delivery Man who got really extreme Powers, Alex is a Smart brilliant Scientist that had lost all morals but has powers that makes him enough of a threat to Cole and means that he can't be defeated easily.

I mean this one is pretty simple seeing one is a hero and the others a villain.

This is definitely top 5 I’d say number 1 goes to dovahkin vs chosen undead given the reasons both of them fought was to complete their quest and save the day for everyone they’re sworn to protect.

To be fair, I’d also have the urge to fight against an edgy hedgehog that cut me off with his motorcycle or if the King of the seven seas splashed me by accident

@@kevindolan9 What are the other top 5's?

​​@@BlaxkSunI'll just let you know that recently it's usually been the guy preventing the villain from causing damage or killing everyone that loses from the past few death battles (chosen undead failed to protect the first flame, making dragonborn end all existing life including itself/black adam had to watch apocalypse destroy his kingdom before dying, discord died but at least saved ponyville from bill's wrath, etc.) So yeah seeing cole successfully protecting the city from alex is clearly a bit new for me

I think that's the idea.

And it's all the better for it!

Is 2009 close enough? Though development for both games probably started around 2005

​​@@toob_noob4381Well, 2009 is still the 2000s

@@sharavy6851 sorry thought you said early 2000's. It says edgy. My bad

Uummm... cause of the "old script"??

​@@christopherfiore6820better animations now than what could have been possible a decade back

@@dragomegaman3711 The graphics were close to Deadpool vs. Deathstroke, and that was quite a while ago.

Better animation, shittier fight choreography. Cole literally got stabbed though the chest and survived which was stupid.

Wiz also brought back the “That’s right boomstick” line

OMG I just noticed the "Lets wnd this debate". I wonder why they didn't do this battle back then.

@@misteraskman3668 I guess Technology wasn’t there to re-create it the way they did in this animation.

I didn't even realize Wiz stopped using that "let's end this debate" line. Wonder why? 🤔

@@DLxxx yeah its weird, i thought it was always there

I honestly thought it was Ionic Drain from (i wanna say) the second game, where its an ultimate, though maybe not since he had ice powers, so he was good karma

​@@saragenren6139 the power you choose isn't tied to begin good or evil, it helps in those areas, but you can be evil with ice powers and vice versa.

​@@trankia1224I remember you could only be a certain amount of evil before you cant use ice though. Like max either locks the other route. Because I had an all fire set but when I beat the game it locked me out of fire because I went pure good. And beating either game caps out your karma. Also Nightmare grenade is op.

@@yureiotakughost9464 I think you were playing a different game than me, infamous 1&2 didn't have fire powers.

I don't recall fire powers...but if you beat the game twice (good once, evil once) you will actually unlock the use of all powers. Cole is simply OP.

So do I!

When gamers werent satisfied with just waiting for the update 🙄

Well, unfortunately, consumers need to learn to stop shoveling money into it. Otherwise, companies like EA will keep on doing it. They are literally getting rewarded for doing something that we hate.

I’m confused by your comment? These are both single player games, do of course they have no micro transactions. There is still single player games like that today such as god of war or Spider-Man you can play start to finish no micro transactions needed. I think you’ve just been playing the wrong games bruh

@@LumpKingDLOit's just another generic "good ol day" comment

God that mission was so sick. Hearing that one iceman calling out “he’s drawing energy from the storm!” and then them bringing everything they have in to desperately stop you was so cool. It really felt like you were top dog among the conduits bringing down a reckoning. Damn I miss Cole : (

@@jonathanjoestarwithpluck4930 Yes!! That’s was one of the best parts of it. Out of all 3 games that one mission is my favorite of all time. Same here man. I liked Cole a bit more than Delsin. It would be nice if we got another game featuring Cole but we can only hope.

@@jayb234 Yeah but sadly they followed the player's first choices for making sequels and people chose Hero rather than Infamous

I always did both the hero and infamous playthroughs in infamous

@@Shadow-479 same here. I always played good first and then wreaked havoc after on another save.

Great. now I want to see a death battle edit with Quick time Event prompts throughout the fight

​@tigergamer998 If Kratos vs Asura gets made, this totally should be in it!

@@heinrichze-france4089 Funny thing about that thought, Asura's won a QTE fight with someone else that can use them before. God I love that game. (Not that God of War isn't great stuff.)

now that wold be a real winner. Prototype with AAA graphics and smoother gameplay would be insane. Especially in this age of oversaturated goodguy superhero games

Infamous and Prototype remakes, released as a bundle, with a team-up sequel.

been hoping since the ps4

Throw the darkness onto that pile another gem from that era that deserves another game

I still want a legitimate inFamous 3. Second son was a letdown

It is it’s basically Electro against Carnage if their on steroids

That’s a perfect way of phrasing it.

​@tandemzero3274 Speaking of which, how do you think Cole would fare agsinst Electro in a fight?

​​@@dragonman2168he would smoke standard electro im ngl

@@rinvalentine7108 And why do you say that? Just out of curiosity.

turning everyone back into wage slaves is a sociopathic k ! ke mentality

"Put Down" something people tend to forget but by the start of Prtotype Alex is dead. The player character is the blacklight virus. Not only that but the viruses ability to regenerate from the smallest amount of material means it very well could have survived the final fight of prototype 2. The ending of the first and second game are contradictory which has led to theories that James didn't actually kill "Alex Mercer" . Not only that the lore insinuates the only real match for him would be Pariah, the child of Elizabeth Green and a naturally occurring Black Light Virus

What I find interesting about Alex is that in the end, he welcomed his death. He was alone at the top of the food chain, the only of his kind. He tried to make others like him, but they were pale imitations, better than humans, but worse than him. Yet, when Heller had Alex at his mercy, he realized he *did* succeed in making someone like him. Better yet, someone *better* than him. Unlike Alex, who had no reason to maintain his humanity, Heller still did. "Welcome to top of the food chain" isn't meant to be rude, or even a compliment, it's a warning. Heller is going to be alone, like Alex was. He can try to fill that void with family and friends like Alex tried to, but even if Heller's family accepts him, he will likely outlive his own children and likely even grandchildren. He is at the top, and Alex could not be de-throned until something stronger came along. The same will likely happen to Heller. (Or would've if Prototype wasn't cancelled...)

To be fair, its been a long standing fan theory that either Alex isn't really dead or he wanted Heller to kill him (basically suicide the long way around).

​@@FOXCYBORGNINJAnah he's canonically confirmed dead. Glad he is otherwise his sacrifice would kinda lose a lot of his impact.

That line was bad@ss but not technically accurate. Since Cole can't take powers from bio leech. Just bio electricity from the person. Then again bio electricity does power the body so technically it is taking his "power". So maybe it does work.

@@GreatpowercomesGreatResponsibi You are looking way too much into that line mate.

If only Alex kept his mouth shut he might’ve not given Cole any ideas

@@leonardorolingstella8554 If he hasn't given him the idea Cole probably just would have vaporized him with a nuke level lightning bolt while simultaneously fully healing himself, it's honestly almost a mismatch

i mean wouldn't that technically mean cole kinda infected himself? meaning over time alex could just come back

Plus the music and the animation make this even more epic!

So true does anyone know the song playing in the fight it was sick I want it in my play list

@@jasonrock4428 [inHuman] by Brandon Yates

@@innonimate- thanks man that is some awesome music

​whats the music?

Same here

Like Boomstick said, 2013 script

it still a debate lol

Yeah me too. Haven’t heard Wiz say that since Thanos VS Darkseid. That put a smile on my face.

It nice to see death battle going back to their old roots

Prototype makes you feel like an evil demigod. Infamous makes you truly feel like a super hero.

omg, truly a love letter to summer 2009

Yes.

I feel the same way. I th

@@lockpickrogue-yc5wc Or an absolute bastard if you chose to play evil Cole

No, you got it, and honestly, that line suits him well. He would still commit to being a hero after so much crap he's been through. Unless, of course, he's the evil version lol.

@@TComms05even evil Cole had good intentions no one was sure that the rfi would work and he was saving as many people as he could

@@hammerite6418 That is true. John White even convinced Cole that they could save many conduits with his method, which opened the door to another alternative. So it really came down to what was the best option for Cole to take. This makes Infamous 2 an awesome game!

​@@TComms05mercer=Cole without morals.

Scene 1.

You never regained your powers

@@brandonwashington604 umm, yes he did, lol

@@xxprototypexx5056 no he didn’t if you mean at the beginning that was in the future and then they went to to past up till that point

@@brandonwashington604 i think he means the parasite part where alex got injected with another virus digging through his body and losing his powers, and then injecting a hunter with a serum and consuming him, as a result killing the parasite and getting that sween blade and armor

@@darthkaliath4014 oh well bro needs to specify

As a fan of the Sony franchise, it's just great to see a Sony character have a strong comeback and win.

I feel the same 😂

I literally just redownloaded these games a few days ago and then this uploaded the next day. I type in “prototype vs infamous” and had to do a double take when it said “uploaded yesterday”

I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said

I’d love to see a what if game of second son but cole became the beast. Me and a friend have planned out the plot and some choices but when we took it to sucker punch via their website they said “we’re too busy with our current projects and have no room for more ideas” but as far as I know he(my friend) still has the paper we drew together and if we could we love to give it to them.

Well, neither characters really have a continuation to their stories, but there IS reason to believe Alex let himself be consumed.

This is cap it is common knowledge that prototype writers for the second game drop the ball on Alex Murphy's character just to get a cash grab for a black guy as the main character they bitched Alex out in this match Alex can summon hordes of zombie infected giant kiju why he chose not to me even though he chose to use them on James Heller is ridiculous cuz if they were in a death battle I would use the last fight with James where Alex Mercer through everything I was the super intelligent virus and had already absorbed countless other intelligent people I would have worn down this individual with the growing army of my infected avenue and then when his defenses were at his lowest send one or two of my evolve generals to try and absorbed him then if that successful worked absorbed his power from them or if that failed keep sending down zombie and then go in my self 😭 it's like you writers don't know how to consciously use this character powers if you were to say that col could absorb bio electric energy from his hords of zombie I would go to say when u killed any character in game you could not absorb them but when there alive or on the verge of death hoe about in stead of picking a script out the trash we scale these characters right 👍👍👍😅

@@coreyclark20you lost me at "cash grab for a black guy" it is NOT that deep 💀

​@@KingMasqyeah same

​@@KingMasq cry about it.

Yeah, i honestly want that jacket he wears in real life

​@@DuffyDevilSaaaame

Facts

Emo vs Grunge be like

There are some TRULY sick cosplays of Mercer and Heller out there. As in, at a convention they would get high-fives and picture requests, outside they would get screams and police called.

Peak fiction

✍️ 🔥 🔥 🔥

Then he said "It's Coleing time" and that was just so hype

Ok I just watched it twice and I didn't hear anything resembling that

Bars

Even in a lingerie contest

Damn straight!💯

Which could imply James heller failed to stop Alex leading to a black light virus infested apocalyptic earth where Kessler leads a resistance to try and fail to stop Alex leaving Kessler who having no clue as to Alex’s origins resorted to the next best thing and that is using his conduit powers to go back in time and both strengthening his younger self cole and warning him of the beast that would bring the end of world known as alex mercer

Honestly, until we saw the Beast, that was a very popular theory as to what The Beast was.

Spoiler Alert: The Spiderman Villain wins

It's the evil one

I don't know anything about electroguy, but I'm pretty confident Mercer is nigh unbeatable.

you're gonna be disappointed@@BenjaminRegen

Electro won

Oh believe me. It was nuts to see both gameplay trailers side by side as a 2009 teen. Especially on the same gaming magazine disc. Mind blowing stuff.

When I was a child and at the beginning of the second Infamous game, I was _petrified_ going against The Beast. The game started off in the deep end and had me fight the final boss from the beginning in one of the most intense and destructive opening sequences I ever played. Ever since I learned of Prototype and the extreme violence, chaos, and exceptional music, I wanted these two to fight ever since

Hell, it was a good fight too. I didn’t even know they existed

Back in the day I remember both fandoms just doing crossovers with Prototype and Infamous. It might have just been because they were both Original Superheroes with games released so close to each other or because they had such contrasting tones but we were all obsessed with Cole and Alex meeting each other

@@Broomer52 I did a quick youtube search and found at least 9 videos going from 1 year ago to 15 years ago making comparisons to the two franchises. That's not even getting into all the different forum discussions that popped up because of them

Bioleeching wouldn't work though, mercer is a virus. Not a living thing.

Even though that actually wouldn't work at all.

​@@xxprototypexx5056bioelectricity is kinda what everything that's ever lived runs on so how would it resist if he took all the juice? Quit coping while you're ahead buddy, the virus despite being incredibly small on the microscopic level viruses are still living organisms, which means there's bioelectricity that can be absorbed, it's like a universal off button for living things

Or to imagine the evil Cole version: "Thought after the First Sons, after Bertrand, after the Beast, that I'd seen the worst Conduits this world had to offer. But this Mercer guy was on a whole other level. How many freaks as powerful as him are still kicking around? Doesn't matter. Whatever hole they're spawning from, I'll teach them to stay there. This world is mine."

I love your version alot my guy@@sonokawaray

Alex should have won here though, DB lazing as always.

I don't think that this comment was a "Who should have won comment", However I respect you opinion anyways. and I hope you have a nice day. @@xxprototypexx5056

@@swaglevi4315 have a nice day

good puns

Why hello fellow pun enthusiast 😁

Okay that was actually not too bad

Honestly? Those lines were actually pretty good.

Truly two of the protagonists of all time.

When did cole ever fight a virus powered villain? Also even if he had he has never fought someone even remotely similiar to alex. Alex can regenerate from almost anything, can make a wide variety of weapons from his own body, can absorb people and their memories and go on to become a perfect duplicate of said person. Cole has never fought someone like alex and vice versa

Cole can beat a guy that can nuke cities to dust. So if Alex gets beat bad enough, he'll have to absorb someone@@gbishop1774

@@gbishop1774Cole fought Sasha in Infamous 1, who had mind controlling powers that were spread through a black goo liquid. In other words, her powers were pretty much a virus.

​@@Sparlis sashas mind control and the blacklight virus are totally different. Cole could not heal a person Who was infected by a ray field plague which Is radiation poisoning from the ray field energy. Meanwhile the blacklight virus turns a normal human into An infected And it evolves into a building sized monster like how we saw in the beggining of prototype 2. Also, death battle literally did not mention anything about the beast getting hit by a 50 kiloton nuke which did far more damage than anything cole has ever done to him, cole even comfirmed himself that the beast Is dead. And they didn't even talk about alex's ability to adapt to almost any situation, like how he was First exposes ti bloodtox which was said to be a counter to the blacklight virus But alex was later immune to it. And death battle saying that alex had to beat his oponents to his level in order to consume them, coles bio leech literally works the exact same. Also they Got alex's consumption wrong because he consumes poeple by turning their body into biomass before he consumes them so even if cole Got alex off of him, a chunk of his body would still be consumed.

@@Mcmrw-kx2el you described perfectly the same thing that was the beast in the second game, and cole managed to deal with him on same level of power after he recovered all of it again

I was in my late teens when I finished both inFamous games, and yeah, I agree. The nostalgia hits. The early or mid 2010s wasn't that long ago, yet it feels like a completely different era

Same think, i could see my own self but with fifteen years

Bro SAME I WAS LITERALLY FRAKING OUT LIKE HOW I WOULD WHEN J WAS LITTLE it fr brought back so many memories i was just excited tbh that they finally covered cole mcgrath was def worth the wait

I think this was intentional, Infamous and prototype came out around the same time and had similar protagonists in a sense, I actually originally confused them

It really is, like a 2000s hero movie. It's super fun!

More akin to edgier Spiderman with electric powers vs less homicidally insane Carnage.

@@jonathanjuarez5544 ᴱˡᵉᶜᵗʳᵒ ᵛˢ ᶜᵃʳⁿᵃᵍᵉ

So... Miles vs Venom?

​@@christopherearth9714more like electro vs carnage

Or cell vs gohan, Alex has crazy regen and abilities, and Cole got that raw power to vaporize him

Mate, you may be cooking. If a hypothetical Prototype 3 were ever made, I think an interesting premise could involve an older but overtly un-aged James Heller having outlived everyone he ever loved and falling into despair, ultimately becoming a villain he initially despised. And the new protagonist viewing him as Heller did Mercer, but this time attempting to reinstate his lost humanity, desperately attempting to break the cycle of the Blacklight virus' influence. Heck, maybe even have a projection of Mercer haunting James, telling him the life of anguish inevitable and convincing him to fall into further depravity. Of course, Activision probably isn't gonna touch the franchise ever again, but I'd still love to imagine.

I'm partial to the theory that, since Alex is the blacklight virus, he actually makes all the other infected to create a genetic algorithm scenario. A genetic algorithm in AI is where the ai makes a bunch of slightly different copies, makes them compete at a task, and then chooses the best one. Alex makes a bunch of infected, and since whoever wins will have to absorb the others, he will ultimately still win. His consciousness and memories exist within Heller and they merge into one being. The blacklight virus still wins.

Is just game bro chill

@@kinjorex101 you motherfuckers are cookin uppppppp

@@e.j5813is just idea bro chill

Mercer stomps, Alex is faster stronger had better regen etc

I can see it going either way, but I do feel Alex should of had a slight edge in a couple regards. One - pack hunters and biobombs. Heller is capable of it, and I do believe Alex is as well, can't quite recall. Second - Adaptability. Coles powers require electricity, and lots of it, but he doesn't generate as much as he can control and manipulate, I don't think. Been years since I beat the infamous games. Mercer has a vaguely similar limitation, potentially. But the issue is the speed of draining. They were in a city scape where Alex could find hundreds of victims to consume within seconds, whereas Cole would have to drain broken machines or downed power lines, which is shown in the games to take him longer. That's not, however, taking into account that Alex needs /biomass/, not human flesh. Plant life, rodents, insects all count, but so does one of Coles arms, which he could hypothetically heal, providing Alex a neverending source in the battle. Third - DNA. Coles DNA is changed, not human standard, but that gives Alex an edge. He duplicates someone on the genetic level... Meaning that he should be capable of the same feats as Cole's once he gets enough of his DNA. Tldr:Alex had access to more 'fuel', a few powers he didn't end up using, and can duplicate Cole's DNA based powers. Sidenote: I could be massively miss remembering things

​@@frozenpizza5242That's still just Cole dude. It wouldn't matter lol

​@@adrianstrider4960 I remember for the particularly brutal missions in the Infamous games, I would always shoot a telephone pole and reabsorb the electricity at a bonus. The conversion rate between usage and drainage were quite strange. I'll argue that the RFI chargers during the beast boss fight prove that he is capable of drawing quickly, the energy grid charging RFI would just arc the energy to Cole. Biomass would still be quite plentiful in comparison, but in a large city, energy isn't so far off kilter.

Honestly im just mad they didn't give mercer the bio bomb, tendrils that heller has and summoning monster atleast they gave him that cool armor skin from prototype 2 though Edit:oh yeah and that move where he blast a kamekameha tendrils and ground spike

Alex doesn't get fatigued like cole does. I don' t even think i'v seen him sleep

@@michellegibbs2401he doesn’t get fatigued, the only thing low biomass does is decrease his healing factor speeds but it’s still just as potent

Losing biomass also cuts off some off Alex’s more outwardly destructive powers and he has to keep consuming to keep healing. So while doesn’t get tired in the normal sense he can be worn down.

@@robrockstar9648 true although it’s mainly devastator attack which Death Battle only utilized Alex’s first normal devastator and no other ones like Graveyard spikes of Critical Mass Dev which would’ve seriously hurt Cole if hit and bypass his shields since his shields can only block bullets, not rockets or anything else of the sort, PLUS Alex has consumed people already GOING OVER his maximum biomass capacity so god knows how long it would take to wear him down since he can EASILY create infected like GOLIATHS which tower over anything and everything Alex has ever faced in Prototype 1 AND they can’t even be destroyed by conventional weaponry which is why only Heller could stop them, so a SINGLE Goliath could’ve easily wiped Manhattan off the map itself

Cole only gets fatigued from lack of electricity if there's electricity around he can recharge instantly

Microsoft could revive it since they bought activision, could even throw crackdown in the world with it or in a remake if they wanted to. If Xbox brought it back it could make Sony bring back Infamous which is a win-win situation for fans

​@@wackywinston1777it kinda sucks to say but if these games were to come back it would probably be remakes but i really really want remasters for these games but companies choose remakes over remasters nowadays

⁠@@char1363damn I would still play the hell out of an Infamous remake. Especially if they got the same tone as the original. It completely nailed that 2000’s comic book feel

@@wackywinston1777infamous isn’t coming back super punch moved on …

Just makes me mad that we were supposed to get this 10 YEARS AGO!

That was a nice detail

That's right Boomstick being said as well which is especially old of a line. We got it once somewhat recently so it here is just even more fitting

I think we need the "FIGHT" announcement too imo

I wonder why they never went with it. These games were popular back in the day. I’d love to see a new infamous. Second son was actually pretty good

It would have been cool if they said "I'm Wizard and he's Boomstick" instead of "He's Wiz and I'm Boomstick".

He should have lost though

@@xxprototypexx5056 Ehhh, not really. Cole has better feats and a more versatile power, plus biolectric drain is practically a hard counter to Mercer. Not to mention the main villain of the Infamous series wiped entire cities in single attacks and Cole just tanked his attacks and eventually overpowered him.

@@EnbyOccultist no he doesn't, not even close. Cole's greatest speed feat was dodging a single radiowave from David, which isn't enough to say he's light speed since it's not consistently done. Mercer dodged the tendrils of the Supreme hunter, which created a sonic boom and even outpaced it. Mercer consistently dodged this over and over again, making him massively hypersonic. Cole had his bones crushed by the beast holding him tightly in their first fight(a being who's only strength feat was throwing a chunk of a building sized statue, Mercer and Heller could tank hits from Elizabeth and Goliath, beings who could oneshot tanks and destroy buildings. Cole doesn't even really have any proper strength feats outside of his kinetic pulse. even with kinetic pulse he could only lift cars. Mercer could throw tanks and apcs around with one hand like it were a beach ball. They claimed Cole Cole tank a raysphere blast, which isn't even a feat since conduits are guaranteed to survive a raysphere blast, and it did no where near as much damage as the 75 kiloton nuke in P1. Near the very end of P2, Alex was at the lvl where he could tank that nuke direct hit. Even the beast doesn't have as much durability since it was obliterated by a 51 kiloton nuke. "Bioleech is a hard counter to mercer" No, no it isn't. DBs argument on that stems on regular human biology and not virology. Mercer is the blacklight virus itself, virus don't have metabolic processes to produce energy to be drained. It's the reason why viruses aren't even considered alive IRL. don't believe DB just because they said so, they've been proven wrong over and over by their own logic. Wonder Woman vs Thor is a great example of that.

@@EnbyOccultist also, no, Cole's power isn't more versatile. Not even close. At ranged yes, but everywhere else, hell no. Cole's main specializes in loud ranged combat and sometimes sneaking out of enemy sight. Mercers power is still great in ranged combat, his shapeshifting abilities allow him to sneak around even in plain sight, and his assimilation abilities allow him to better his own skills and intellect as well as strength and speed. It even allows him to detect sleeper personnel and other targets he's after, which is how he knows exactly who the web of intrigue targets are and what they look like.

​​@@xxprototypexx5056dude, did you even watch the fight

Ironically cole could be good or evil while mercer is a hero turned villian

So heroes fighting villains is cheesy now?

@@ZLunas I don’t think so, but you never know with comments sections these days

@@TheBowTizzle True, that CinemaSins style of criticism where seemingly every commonly used storytelling tool is automatically a writing flaw, regardless of how it's used in context, seems to be quite popular in RU-vid comment sections

@@ZLunas Been a long time since I've heard of that channel. That still alive? I remember a lot of people getting annoyed at them for becoming nitpicky just to find something to consider a sin in movies.

Alex had his mind molded by the diagnosed narcissistic psychopath that was Dr. Mercer. He was an almost exact clone of the man so he might have been doomed from the start. Dr. Mercer was a bad man and Alex was molded after him with even less real world experience. He was probably never going to grow

True

This comment needs to be higher up

There's also the fact that Cole has crossed paths with quite a few megalomaniacal types who are convinced they know best for everyone and try to impose their worldview through violent means. Makes sense that when he heard the same spiel coming out of Alex's mouth, he was having none of it.

15:54 *(YYYEEEAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)*

Technically it's the official story. They made a part 3 that confirms that's the path he took.

It's not correct though, DB got so many details wrong and even gave him evil abilities such as arc lightning when they said they were only using good Cole. Don't believe them for even a second

@@xxprototypexx5056 Lol just say you’re coping hard 😂

@@skeety7883 yeah, cuz I'm coping over a fake video created by incompetent people proven to be wrong over and over right? Your talking like a child. Treating conversations like they are competitions.

Same bro I was rooting for Cole saw Alex’s stats and was like no way Cole can win. Let’s go!

Longtime Infamous fangirl personally and even I was thinking the same Thought Alex's healing and arena control were gonna get him the win but I had never been so happy to have been wrong in a while with this show ♡

I thought these games were more of something 90s babies played but good to know the later generation was able to appreciate it.

@lordmonarch2995 well they weren't even games in the 90s. More like what Teens played in '09

@@ToneZoneTCI was rooting for Cole until I seen it was the good version

Right, they never discount any character's raw skills or abilities even if the odds are impossible. It's a lot more entertaining than simply saying "He stands no chance." It's the same logic that makes a lot of Superhero movies work, making the fight evenly fought just shows that they are real fans of both characters regardless of who ends up on top.

Even the stomps are framed not to make one character look like a chump; the exception being Aquaman because that was the joke

It wasn't fairly even, they literally highballed Cole and lowballed mercer

Torian was the best animator they ever had....... the quality has not improved since........

@@dio2076What fights did Torian do?

Bro calm down your overacting@@dio2076

​@@dio2076ok and? Torrian is an amazing animator but you can't just discredit the 3d team just because they're not torrian We've been getting really good 3d fights lately, like Sauron vs Lich King, Dragonborn vs Chosen Undead, Vader vs Obito and this fight

@@justsomeguy6336 all the good ones(the ones that are animated in Monty's style) The animations now are mostly outsourced garbage.

Better late than never.

Also back in 2013, they weren't all that great at researching like they are now. Some people would disagree that they are good now, but they do actual math while in the past they just went "eh, they could probably do this and win" most of the time.

And yet they still didn't bother using the Sonic booms, or when Alex Mercer does his speed that exceeds the tank rounds, which are projectiles moving at supersonic speeds, and death battle gave no Feats whatsoever to Cole in terms of speed. And they didn't bother making a tornado, as Alex Mercer runs circles around his opponent who is unable to perceive him. But that just takes all the fun out of the battle doesn't it Eddit: Cole didn't get a Speed-Feat, but that was for routing electricity hisun and routing electricity is not the same as moving from point A to point B in reaction to a weapon firing at you.

@@Kjf365 Nowadays, the question fans ask isn't "Should this character have won?" and more "How faithfully would they portray the characters?"

It's a crazy one now too though!

Tbh kinda glad it didnt come out back then, because the fight wouldn’t have been as beautiful

@@idkibk7 True It would have been all 2d sprite animation, not against it of course, but a full 3d with debries and destruction? yes please!

@@farenhaid13421their sprite fights have definitely improved however, just look at Rogue vs Wonder Woman compared to Goku Black vs Reverse Flash (my personal favorite DB)

microsoft just got activision, so people are talking about prototype again.

There always would be someone more powerful or more versatile.

@@DoubleJ-jt1ty He is by the second game.

@@DoubleJ-jt1ty Whether or not it's relateable doesn't change if its evil or not. Attempting a genocide can't ever really be considered much else than evil.

​@@DoubleJ-jt1tySo you're a misanthrope?

I love the death battles that are simply Hero vs Villain. Especially when the hero comes out on top

Or Kevin levin Vs generator Rex

@@jackmendez3086 Dude..... THAT WOULD BE AN AWESOME FIGHT.

@@farenhaid13421 totally one sided, but yeah

@@justincummings8557 Considering next episode, these guys don't mind one-sided stomps.

Electro smash

EWWW, I STEPPED IN LOSER

bro dont

Tip, huh? Thanks for the time.

Now that you mentioned it i'm wondering if delsin could take Alex's power? Since he's a conduit power sponge

​@@FadedFlash7Doesn't work that way. Delsin needs to come in direct contact to a Prime Conduit to get new powers. Alex powers are a result of the Blacklight Virus, so Delsin wouldn't get them.

Cole: Good Idea!

Seasons 9&10 of DB have been mostly hits and (arguably) no misses

@@idkibk7 I'd argue that season 9 definitely had some lackluster episodes, but nothing quite as bad as the other seasons

@@ThenewTchannel fr, the one i'd call a miss is Jason vs Micheal and it isn't even bad, just average

@@Toximati0n I didn't care too much for Boba vs Predator, Deku vs Asta, or the finale either, but those are all at least mid, better than some of the actually bad episodes we had in season 8 for sure

Makes me wonder why they complained about the script so much, and why they didn't make the episode in the first place

Hell I would have accepted a second son sequel for that matter.

@@farenhaid13421seriously. Imfamous has no weak entries.

Give it like 15 years. Because development cycles are so mind bogglingly long now.

hard agree, it was so cool back in the day

I heard that they are developing new infamous game? Suckerpunch kicked it off with their ghost of Tsushima game. Probably in loads of money right now 🤑 A chance for them to make another infamous game?

I'd put up a second mortgage on my house if it meant I had to pay to see that

Both of them have better opponents.

Delsin can just blitz Heller, Delsin has some FTL feats meanwhile Heller is at best massively hypersonic

@@megamagner618 yes but hellers durability and adaptability are leagues better than mercer, Ontop of that hellers body is a hybrid of the virus and heller meaning that his body is less likely to be overtaxed like Mercers was Not saying it would be a one sided fight but speed isn’t everything and heller has ways to restrain faster opponents

Delsin should be fought Korra From Avatar series

Yes I want Alex back in prototype

Agreed, these series ended far too soon

We need something to replaxe prototype 2

@@thelonecourier3439 I'm still absolutely sure that the end of Prototype 2 was a play of Alex. Just thinking about it, we never learned why Alex would restart the virus after Prototype 1 was all about containing it. As a character he never was power hungry or downright evil (at least in the game narrative). But then he starts the 2nd spreading, places his pawns, infects the main character for no apparent reason, and abducts his family to have a big standoff on a tower. Can anyone really say here that this didn't feel orchestrated? I wouldn't wonder when Alex just a few seconds after getting killed was growing back in some cocoon some miles away somehow having accomplished his goal, whatever it was. Also, regarding a 3rd part, we never actually learned what happened to Pariah (son of Elizabeth Greene), who was told to be the perfect avatar of the virus in this whole story. There's just so much left open!

this 1000%

Agreed, I've wanted this fight long before I heard of death battle and immediately after playing both games. And again, everything I put on one of their games again

Billcord >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

@@Kronensegler211billcord is miles clear

Realizing 2009 was that many years ago made me collapse on the floor with the Super Mario Dry Bones sound effect

Peter pan.

Same man same

I couldn't agree more 💯👍

I remember when Yahtzee/Zero Punctuation asked the companies to duel each other by drawing the other company’s character in women’s lingerie and Infamous won the challenge

@@karmicrespite5737 And Infamous wins... again. In a Death Battle, no less.

@@kainingyao7873 And won overall since they at least got one more sequel and a dlc meaning they surived till the next gen console.

Not really. Their facts and reasoning sucked ass.

Expect it couldn't, since he no longer has that ability, needing to replace it with an ice version that doesn't convert anything into energy at all.

⁠​⁠@@xxprototypexx5056 Which doesn’t matter because he’s still powerful enough to do it and nothing suggests he doesn’t know how to do it as he literally relearned his powers and more.

@skeety7883 no he isn't, if he was then he wouldn't have had to replace it with an ice version to begin with. He lost many of his powers after the first fight with the beast, powers such as karmic overload, grind drain and gigawatt blades never came back.

@@xxprototypexx5056 🤦‍♂️ He literally relearned all of his powers, it’s not that hard to understand. I guess Alex just doesn’t get a vast majority of his abilities then since he never uses them in the second game and Heller never gets any of them after absorbing Alex 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️.

@@skeety7883 Cole did not relearn all of his powers, he permanently lost grind draining, gigawatt blades and karmic overload. And had to replace some with ice variants to get it back. Your being disingenuous.

Facts

"The only vermin i see here is you" my guy Cole being a true hero no matter the situation

Almost as good as the Iron Man comeback for me

Hero Cole isnt about that life.😎

That scene feels very Star-Wars

Also true. This fight was bound to end badly for Mercer

Not immune to disease, immune to The Rayfield Plague. The Plague was caused by the same energy that empowered The Conduits so any awakened Conduit was immune to it. That was the whole point of The Beast's rampage in InFamous 2. To force human evolution by empowering all Conduits on earth at the expense of the other 99% of the world's population.

@@WeaponXSigma Think it would have been different if we saw mercer abusing his ability consume normal people to regenerate though. That was a really big thing to take into account for the fighting was him eating enemies as the battle went on. If Mercer had kept running off to regenerate and charge by eating humans in the area I think he'd have stood a better chance all things considered. It's hard to think about who would win in this fight since it would come down to who ran out of energy sources first. Mercer is no fool either. If he saw cole charging off the power grid he'd pull back and just start breaking the grid left, right, and center. TL:DR I feel like due to the intelligence of both sides and their separate regeneration capabilities a change in arena and resources would greatly shift how this fight would go. This type of fight would potentially go on for WEEKS if not months.

It doesn't need to in order to absorb him.

Alex's virus is like trying to infect a fire to become poisonous. As long as Cole's abilities were still active, it'll burn off anything Mercer threw at him.

Most death battle music is made by Brandon Yates and therewolf media. They also make fan commission tracks if you’re interested in other songs they’ve done.

@@malikjackson9828 thanks a ton 🤘🏽

Nah prototype is just niche with a smaller fanbase, that's how these things work. Alex's power of absorbing people's life experience would have made him so much smarter than cole, before other combat powers even came into the discussion.

@@mcmarkmarkson7115They are both pretty niche, lets be honest. I know both because of the debate and my long time in this community, not that Infamous somehow is more ‘popular’. No, that would be silly.

@@mcmarkmarkson7115 Alex never fought any being as strong as the beast, and when he did fight someone as strong as himself he lost. Absorbing random people's life experiences doesn't help when your fighting a completely new enemy

@@GreenOnTheScene0 Yea I'm sure Batman would really struggle with a completely new enemy Alex Lost because of plot, not because it made sense. Deathbattle should take into account the abilities not the linear story lines that makes no sense Otherwise we can count anyone stronger than superman that one time someone managed to bring kryptonite near him

@@twenty-fifth420 Infamous from Sucker Punch is niche? Based on what? The great sales numbers or the high critics scores? :D

He shouldn't have, the results here are wrong.

@@xxprototypexx5056 Having played both, you're wrong. Though DB DID get a few things wrong, ultimately Cole is more versatile, faster, and stronger. And unlike Mercer, Cole DOES have an instant kill on contact through just absorbing all the electricity in his body. He doesn't have to use it on humans either, so Mercer's potentially nonhuman biomass doesn't change anything. Note that Mercer uses his own biomass to attack people. So he CONSTANTLY touches people when he attacks them. Mercer could stab Cole and Cole could just instakill him through the blade. Cole is also literally a living taser. He can't use guns or ride in cars because the electricity that constantly courses through his body makes them explode just from being in contact with him. Even without instakilling Mercer, Mercer would get severe electrical burns whenever he touches Cole. It's also notable that Cole can redirect electricity that isn't part of his body or in contact with him, like when he drained a storm in Infamous 2. Electromagnetism Manipulation is just crazy OP. EM is 1 of 4 fundamental forces of the universe, and 2 of those forces are explicitly atomic level and the other is Gravity. Being able to control it is a huge deal.

@@xxprototypexx5056 my guy Coles force field ALONE would atomize Alex, and I’m not exaggerating with my word play there, it literally atomizes matter. Alex can’t regenerate from being atomized because the virus is only at the molecular level, meaning it’s 100% true that Cole has the fire power needed to kill Alex in a way that he can’t come back from.

@terratrox7180 he is not stronger or faster, and bioleech isn't even a kill to mercer because he is a virus. Viruses don't have metabolic processes and therefore don't produce any energy 1. Even with kinetic pulse Cole could only lift basic cars, mercer could lift tanks and choppers. 2. Cole at his fastest was faster than a train and even then, he needed outside factors such as electrical railing to reach that speed, mercer can run faster than sports cars and can reach this speed without any outside factors. 3. Him being a human taser doesn't mean jack when he's only slightly more durable than a human. He got crippled in infamous 2 by a semi truck to the point he couldn't even walk, having to crawl. All mercer would have to do is slam a tank onto Cole and the fight is over. 4. A storm had to occur naturally for that to happen, he couldn't do that to storms he himself created. 5. How does gravity manipulation help against mercer? Being able to manipulate a force on the atomic lvl and being able to destroy on the atomic lvl are completely different. Cole can't destroy at that lvl.

@@terratrox7180The first time Mercer punched Cole he should have died Mercer destroys literal tanks with his punches and also theres no way Cole could have survived when Mercer stabbed him all the way through his body from his shoulders that dude is not that strong. They didn’t even use all of Mercers abilities from the game either.

As also a infamous nerd, same

Also as Infamous nerd, yeah

Also as an infamous nerd, Absolutely

Infamous nerd here,Hell Yeah!

In this group and yes, pleasantly surprised.

They pretty much used the canon version

So the fact the Cole can create ice and absorb energy from living things implies that while he manipulates energy in the form of electricity he can absorb other energy types and convert them to electricity. To create ice he is actually rapidly absorbing thermal energy from an area and as bio electricity is chemical based he is literally taking the fuel out cells when he does that. That last part is actually very deadly to use against Alex because if Cole aims to pull everything drop of potential energy he can from Alex it will induce cellular death.

@@robrockstar9648 We don't actually know how the ice works, because its not actually his power. That is the power Kuo shares with him in Infamous 2 through their amp of Cole's powers. They might be an extension of his electromagnetic powers, but just as easily they could just be a second energy source he has access to. This becomes a far more murky concept later, because Delson Roe as a Conduit Mimic is capable of drawing from a variety of power sources, but unlike Cole his powers never hybridize into a conjunction of abilities and instead becomes an arsenal that he can use, though also use to the same strength to potentially stronger than the conduits he copies. So there isn't a clear answer.

@@LupineShadowOmega I didn’t know that thanks for the info

that and cole can turn mass into energy via his shield so id be a losing fight

Fax

When you put it like that it makes way more sense, and while I’m sad that another character from my childhood died I can understand the reasoning by his victory

14:42 Mercer shouldn't have thrown Cole out of the building, he had the environmental advantage in a darker and less open field.

@@ziephel-6780 that's an office building. full of machines and electrical sockets. cole has more attrition there fhan outside. besides, the dark doesnt matter to cole, his electricity already generates its own light, not to mention that he has radar sense to detect objects and creatures. it was actually smarter to place him out of that spot, and besides, the entire place would be destroyed anyways

here's what's gonma happen with evil cole: alex shows up cole blows up the city alex is a puddle cole blows up again alex is a memory

Same!!!! Still wanna see it! I was hoping they’d announce it at the end of this battle

Alex tries to consume a person. Cole grabs person with lightning Hook. Then Bio leech the person. Alex: Yeah that was my snack. Cole: You snooze you lose. Alex: You going get it now buddy. Alex rushed towards Cole. Cole snaps his fingers. Alex is vaporized. Cole: I'm still hungry Near by citizens: OH thank god. You saved us from the evil Alex Mercer. Now we can finally live in peace. Cole: 😈

To be fair tho, one of the notes on the upper right did say they were going for Good Cole, but with considerations on abilities connected to Evil Cole. Personally tho, I do like the good vs evil angle for the episode since it actually played out like a final battle between hero and villain.

@@theinsurance2450 lmao

Still they left out the part where Cole is weak to water, and how Alex grew immunity to blood tox a biochemical agent used to wipe out the black light virus.

@@greytakerrev7147bro he infected Whitelight which is an even stronger version of Bloodtox with a drop of his blood 💀 they mentioned Alex’s adaption but never even used it cause Alex would’ve adapted to the electricity almost half way through the fight

Additionally, Alex is theoretically as strong, if not, stronger than James Heller, who consumed Goliaths, and has the ability to use Pack Hunter (I think that's the ability name) to literally control monsters. It's also stated in the video yet not once did Alex consumed a human to regain his strength, unlike Cole who had a whole tesla behind him to regain energy. Sure, Alex may have bioenergy resonating within him but he's an alpha hunter known to adapt to his environment, just as a virus builds resistance to medicine.

@@remarkabletrainer4729 exactly bro, adaptation should’ve kicked in right after Cole hit him with his melee weapon and froze him which would’ve made Alex pretty much resistant, as if going against Cross with a stun baton already didn’t give him at least a bare minimum of Shock and Electricity resistance plus in the final fight with Alex we even see him call upon mutated crows to try and surround Heller, so he could’ve called upon every infected in Manhattan to try and kill Cole which would include Goliaths which are FARRRRRR bigger than anything Elizabeth Greene summoned in Prototype 1, even towering over the form that she used in her fight AND the Supreme Hunter, so that just goes to show how much biomass Alex had stored and he was STILL able to fight and absorb even more people

I personally thought it would come down to Cole being able to strike with the force of a low-yield nuke by the end of Infamous 2, whereas Alex survived a nuke at the end of Prototype 1, giving Alex the win. Like you, though- happy to be wrong about the result.

Both of these games were big parts of growing up for me and I wanted a death battle ever since I've played them, I didn't think Cole stood a chance but I still really wanted him to win, and to have the fight of my dreams and to have Cole win in a way that made perfect sense, absolutely phenomenal

Wrong, Cole is clear because he can be either a monster or a hero

@@StateGenesys He is canonically the hero but yeah

Alex should have won though, DB made facts up and based things on pure theories such as Coles shield turning bullets into energy when the strategy guide states it's only converting the kinetic energy of the round into energy and not the round itself.

⁠@@xxprototypexx5056no he loses death battle did alright with analysis but end of the day Cole just vaporizes Alex with ease

@@spinozilla2421 @spinozilla2421 no he doesn't, even by their own logic he doesn't lose. They claimed Cole was resistant to blacklight, but they never once said that he was immune. Immune means it won't effect him at all, whereas resistant means he's less effected by it but will still eventually succumb to it. By their own logic, the virus should still end up eventually killing or turning Cole. And no, Cole cannot vaporize anything. That was an entirely new myth made by DB. They claimed that cole disintegrated the beast at the atomic lvl when he used the RFI, which takes rayfield radiation away(aka what the beast was made of). Even if he could disintegrate, that's not a killing blow like you think it is. Alex is the blacklight virus itself. So long as the virus exists, he will always exist. He spread himself across New York as well as everywhere he's ever been. Which is why he states at the end of the 2nd game that he has moved beyond life and death. He's effectively unkillable.

@@spinozilla2421 no they didn't, they are wrong even by their own logic. They claimed Cole was resistant to blacklight, but they never said he was immune. Immune means he wouldn't be affected at all whereas resistance means it's less effective, but will still succumb. By their own logic, the virus should still end up killing or turning Cole.

@@xxprototypexx5056 nope that’s just mean Cole can fight off the virus silly

This fight would have been absolute destruction if it was evil Cole, he's stronger than good Cole

@@frxxboii8297Evil Cole would absolutely annihilate Alex down to the last atom. That man is literally built for destruction.

Let not forgot the music! The mix of instrumental and vocal and rapping. And the animation has improved over from the old fight they had.

Are you stuck in 2015? Screwattack is no longer a thing.

Nah. It's wrong

I understood that reference

Than the poor schmuck said "On your knees" And I replied "I'm not your mother last night"

Hellsing Abridged reference LOVE IT!

"That was a 70 Inch, Plasma Screen TV....*Sigh*....So how can I help you."

​@@demondragonshi5161you must be the great alucard