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Light primer hits, cylinder locks up. Now the crown has problems. I thought i wanted one but think I’ll just stick to my Smith. It’s worked fine for 42 years.
Why anyone would give this a thumbs down is beyond me. The man is doing everyone in the gun community a great service. This video is greatly appreciated!
@@robertmorelli922 they probably put a new guy on it figuring "well he can't fuk that up". Lol. Even a newbie should have realized he screwed up though. If nothing else, final inspection should have caught it.
That's exactly what I got from Grand Power when I bought the Grand Power x-calibur. What a piece of crap that $900 gun was. I don't buy guns when they first come out anymore.
I bought new 8” colt python back in 1981. Fine revolver. Had a friend that wanted a 44 magnum but he was a all out colt man and colt didn’t make a 44 back then. When colt introduced the 44 anaconda years later he ordered one. When he got it home he looked it all over and noticed it had no rifling in the barrel.He checked the inside diameter of the barrel and found out it was .010 undersized. Colt made it right with him and apologized but told him at no time was he in danger if he fired it. Maybe he wouldn’t be in danger but the fragments being shaved off upon entering the barrel would be a danger to anything beside him. I have been working at a machine shop for over 41 years, I’ve seen the changes in the way that businesses only worry about the shareholders and reduce the pay and benefits for employees. I also have seen attitudes change with employees not caring. And desperation of the company trying to keep people working for them so they hire less than qualified people. That includes inspectors. People just don’t care anymore. I’m wondering if this is Colts problem too.
@@m.loughlin1915 i have videos on specific firearm stoppages. You’ve done nothing but correct spelling and you think you’re bettering the community. You are a loser.
Exactly, this kind of flaw is inexcusable! The other mechanical problems that don't show up until after the user puts a number of rounds through it is bad enough, but something as obvious as this is inexcusable!
Just another reason I have no worries about my older Pythons losing value due to the new models. #1...They're meant to be bought and shot and #2...They're quickly becoming known as a lemon. Buying one today means that if you're lucky you MIGHT see a return in 20 years however even that is doubtful. I wouldn't bother with a depreciating Colt. Spend the extra, buy a good used one, shoot it, maintain it and you'll at worst shoot it for "free" if you decide to part with it at some point. I just sold my fathers S&W 19-4 which he was sure had a minimum of 200k rounds through it(all .38spc in matches) for $800. Still tight, still in very good shape. It's NOT hard to keep a firearm in very good condition even though you're using it.
I have no idea where he come up with that short stroke nonsense. You have to purposely try to make a revolver do that. Even then most revolvers won’t do it. Depends on the make. But nobody does that to there revolvers. Not even beginners.
I don’t have a colt python however I do have the diamondback and the police positive and the craftsmanship on them is second to none. It’s sad to see that Colts flag ship handgun is having issues but I am confident that they will resolve it soon. Colt is an excellent company.
The inside of that crown looks like a rat has been chewing on it. The problem that Colt now has is what could have been the firearm to save the company is turning into the one that is likely to kill the company because they tried to build the Python cheaply and sell it for a premimum price. That might have worked had the revolver worked and been a high quality firearm, but it's not. So sad that another once great firearm company is likely going down the drain because of poor quality, over pricing and a company with a "we don't care" attitude! Good bye Colt. They must have hired Ray Charles for the quality control department because there is no way that a crown looking like that should have gotten past anyone in quality control who isn't blind, and it's not just this muzzle crown but a lot of them. Hey Colt, lets hear you defend that!
I have an S&W 586 6 inch and was thinking about getting a New Colt Python 4 inch like you. But I'm having second thoughts. My 586 has never failed and neither has my other S&W revolvers.
@@wapiti3750 I used to have an S&W 586 no dash I got back in the mid 80s but let it get away along with several other guns I wish I had back. I purchased the 586-8 Classic a few years ago and have been very pleased. I wish it didn't have that damn lock on the side but it wasn't a deal breaker.
@@ecleveland1 Ah, the guns that got away. Too many pawn shops is what I blame it on. Getting laid off and being short on cash is a close second though! A man can lose his finest possessions, even a girl sometimes, when he's without a job.
Sad to see you and so many others had issues with your purchase of initial run of new Colt revolvers especially the Python. I've purchased several new Colt revolvers in June/July 2022 and look, function and shoot flawlessly. I've looked over a couple of Pythons (4.25" and 6") with a jewelers loupe and fit and finish is perfect on the current production revolvers. I've also noticed that the newer gun surface finish on both the Pythons and King Cobra has more of a mirror polish (significantly better than the earlier production guns). I guess it took Colt a while to get their production lined out properly.
I was thinking that it would be better to have the barrel re-crowned locally, it only takes a few minutes, but that's so bad that you might need a new barrel. Good luck, I hope they don't keep it for months.
Something in the box hitting it in shipping.? I had a toilet flushometer leak because a small parts package had rubbed up against a mating surface. Went to turn on water and leakage. Was there something in the gun box that could have done this? Ill bet yes.
Im sure colt will fix the guns. Its not the end of the world. For years S&W couldnt put a straight barrel on their guns and i have seen a NEW performance center 686 with a cracked frame. People didnt freak out like they did about these guns
@@theoneandonlybumpus2862 It's given me zero problems. One of my favorites. Only thing is the proportions are a little off with the medium frame and 6.5" barrel - it makes it front heavy and it has the vented barrel which tame muzzle flip.
Im so glade i HAVE a 686 4 incher . Never had a malfunction. It beautifull and it shoots. Wanted a python 20 yrs ago, but i figured you cant beat my 27 -2 s &w anyways or my 686. Keep the python. It just might work out but i think colt hurriied poduction and overlooked some key details. Im sure they will address the problem if they are honest
I bought a Beretta 92 FS that came with a damaged crown. Called Beretta. Service rep was extremely rude. They didn't give a s**t because it "still functions". -- At least Colt is going to take a look at it.
@PatienceZero Fair enough. Korth's actually function well as far as I can tell. Personally I think the best value buys right now are vintage S&W revolvers.
Thankyou sir for this video. The new Python will sell for approx $3200 here in Australia. I can't bring myself to parting with all that money after knowing about the problems with this gun. I have a Ruger GP 100 and a 30 yr old 686. Both great revolvers that never let me down. So no need to take any risk with dud!
Denny Colt has been having issues of bad quality control for some time now. A $1599.00 or more product should not have the problems experienced by so many customers of the Python.
@@dramc-ov3cp Colt's problems started just like every other once great company that has been destroyed, when they were taken over by the investment crowd.The Wall Street POS who have been getting rich by buying out and taking over companies and then running them into the ground cutting cost any way they can. Maximum profit and stock value comes before everything, workers, customers, and even the product. Wake up.
Ric Pel exactly! I made pretty much the same comment. I’ve been working in a renowned machine shop since 1978. I’ve watched all my benefits disappear, and my attitude soon followed. Glad I only have a couple years to go.
@@chrisfisk2373 I'm sorry to hear that, it is disgusting to see what has been going on over the last 40 years, and then to hear people blaming it on everyday citizens earning decent wages is pathetic. It's funny to hear so many people say how patriotic they are but they don't hesitate to attack their fellow working class citizens while the big business, big finance scum bags steal everything they can steal.
Ric Pel from what I see it started with the college ( that is a business itself) pushing good advertising to support itself that if you don’t get a college education you are going to be a failure and when you do get one you are superior. Hasn’t worked that way as far as I can see. Now in our business we have us low life’s on the ground floor that are experienced that can’t move up because we don’t have a degree. So now from the bottom rung to the top rung there is no experience, just degrees. So every stupid idea can not be stopped at any rung of the latter. It’s a sad state for America business.
Very possibly and rather than set aside all those defective parts Colt was like "The hell with it, gotta get these out before Shot Show" And THAT is the big issue.
BigSkyOkie no this was a mishap due to automation. They still fired m, structural integrity WAS technically still there, and they had orders to fill. Why else allow something so blatantly obvious to leave your shop?🤷♂️
Excellent Review!!!!! The Crown is only the first problem with these.WTF COLT!!!!! I Will buy one after the price goes down and they FIX THE GUN!!!!! IF I HAD BOUGHT ONE OF THESE AT THESE INFLATED PRICES,I'D BE MAD AS HELL!!!!! LIKE I SAID,WTF COLT!!!!!!
For what it's worth ...in 1968 I purchased 4 inch factory nickle...right out of box had timing issues. ..o er the years seemed to be a problem with pythons..fast forward to present...and present day issues ..😅
The damage kinda looks like post build or during assembly. I seen a video once of an assembly line of hand guns. They were shoving the gun over a steel or at least metallic rod down the barrel for holding purposes. I wonder if it came from that? Man thats rough looking. Maybe just on install of barrel. The person putting the barrel in shroud could have hammered it?
There will never again be a lovingly hand-fitted by master gunsmiths Python. I have a couple and am almost scared to even handle them, they are SO NICE!! Sad.
Thing is that even if they fix issues with these guns on later production, the reputation of them is now damaged. Resale value may not be good. Desirability of the gun is reduced when have to say this is one of the guns made after they fixed the problems. There will always be doubt about the quality and reliability of them now. I have doubts that Colt is capable of fixing problems and maintaining quality control at this point. Disappointed because I so wanted one of these guns before this debacle.
Your comment is way out of line. Any new launch will have issues and guns are no different. I own a six inch Python and it is a work of art. I would put its accuracy up against any revolver and the trigger is unparalled in smoothness and triger pull. My model 66 S&W which is also a legendary revolver comes a close second. Until you have experienced the Python for yourself you have no right to judge. I might add that my 1911 Mark IV series 80 is also a stellar product. Colt's name is legendary and minor issues with a new launch will not tarish their reputation. Sounds more like you are making excuses without having any actual rational hands on experience.
Colt: Make your shit right in the first place. No one has time to fart around with sending guns back for repairs. We also don't have time for your apologists.
I know exactly what it wrong here: They are trying to cut an 11 degree target crown. The PROPER way to do that is to give it a 45 degree clean-up. They are not doing that. Because I have the equipment, if my new Python had this issue (which it didn't), I would fix it myself. I have seen 3 new Pythons (including mine) and none of them have had the action issue or a crown issue.
Did they machine that crown or chew it in place? I'm glad I'm old enough to have purchased two consecutive serial numbers Pythons back in the early 1970's. Colt Royal Blue. The most beautiful bluing ever used in a firearm. I've shot one of mine, the other is still in box with cleaning rod, fuzzy jag and screw driver. When you get this atrocity back from Colt, completely remove any lubricant they've used and look at all of the trash they left behind in the crane, re lubricate with a high quality gun oil, then feeler gauge the gap between the cylinder, all 6 holes and the forcing cone breech face. A good custom smith should be able to get the gap to no more than .0005" between cylinders, otherwise the cylinder rod or cylinder also needs work.
For that amount of coin I'd rather pick up a Security Six, or a Speed Six, or maybe both, and have something to let the Grand Kids fight over once I'm gone!
Colt was just in a hurry for some reason to get these out prior to the 2020 Shot Show. History shows gun companies in the past rushing to get a gun into the hands of buyers have had quality issues and issued recalls. Colt however is in no financial shape to be dealing with bad reputation and recalls. In the long run this may hurt them far more than anticipated.
I'm not a machinist but maybe they're not changing the bit on the machine that does the crown? Tool chatter? A friend of mine got one and it's very nice. Crown is smooth and he has 450 rounds through it so far with no problems at all. Quality control needs checked if they are charging $1400+.
Larry Alexander Yep!!! You would think all eyes would be on making sure this rollout went perfect!! Looks like management don’t care and probably neither do the employees!
This is the beauty of the internet, calling out companies putting out junk and everybody knowing it , it's a form of Quality Control after the fact .Will Colt survive this one ? I don't think so.
How in the world did that get past the gunsmiths and quality control? I would even ask them to replace the target that was torn. For collectors, all of that matters especially down the road when you can't get that anymore.
The problems with the cylinder and the hammer on various Colt Pythons that I've seen on RU-vid are deal breakers for me. I decided to buy a 1970 vintage Colt Python 4 inch blued. It is unfired and an Immaculate condition. It was a safe queen to the previous owner. I paid more for it than the new python but I'm tired of waiting.
That CNC mill needs the bit changed, severely. It's just gouging shit out. That's what's happening to the crowns, they're cheaping out on tooling. Could probably be fixed with a decent mill.
