My husband and I just found your channel a week ago. We have watched many of your past classes. Thank you for your time and dedication. We are committed to watching you weekly! When I listened to your class this time it reminded me of a time when I was repenting and while praying I learned a great lesson: "Justice brings us to our knees (it is the law and it is finite), and Mercy helps us stand again (our Savior's atonement.) Thank you again .
Today I learned of the laws of caution. I was already aware of the law of natural consequences and with the cautionary laws makes more sense of God’s plan. I’m going to read Alma 41 again with this knowledge in mind. Thank you!
Jesus is the way across the bridge to life everlasting. This is deep doctrine made clear through the Spirit. Alma, perhaps like no other teacher in the scriptures, emphasizes to us that so long as we come humbly to the Lord and repent of our sins can be forgiven and be fully reconciled to God This reminds me of Alma’s unforgettable teaching in Mosiah 26:30 30 Yea, and as often as my people repent will I forgive them their trespasses against me. God be thanked for these amazing gifts of divine mercy and justice and taught so beautifully in this video.
Amen! Mosiah 26:30 is one of my favorite verses. And I love what you said about Alma. His was a powerful testimony born of personal experience. Thank you for sharing!
Your lessons are treasures! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and inspiration. Your love of the gospel is apparent. Please if you have other reading concerning the three degrees of glory I would like to have them. I have read Joseph Smith and Melvin J Ballard, but would like to see more. Thanks again for all your wonderful work that you so lovingly share.
Not Sure exactly what you’re wanting but I’ve watch unshaken and book a Mormon central and they are good to me. Book Of Mormon Central has Daily planning of lessons and also extended research if you’re interested. I hope this is what you need.
I love that you have used the ideograph “Unshaken” as the title for this channel and thanked people for being unshaken at the end of the presentation. Please don’t think I’m insinuating any nefarious intent here. We can use ideographs in a good way just like Paine and others did for their anti-religious purposes, right? Thanks for building and helping others become unshaken.
The road map really stuck with me and now I have a question. The scriptures make it very clear that the only way to return to the Father is through the Son, Christ. So the people who try to do it on their own and take the "Justice" path, are those the ones that will inherit the Terrestrial Kingdom because they don't readily accept Christ??
Many ended up asking for it, so I included a link to download it in the video description for Alma 36-38 part 1. Let me know if you can't find it. Happy feasting!
@@Unshaken Thank you!! That is what I have been thinking as well. A way to preserve their freedom of choice.. Thank you for taking the time to answer. You have opened so many doors for me. I am from Switzerland and I find it difficult to find people that are ready to scuba-dive....:-)
@@maximilianlionel I know what you mean about wanting to find conversation partners you can resonate with. I'm grateful to have a new friend in Switzerland!
Have you read the CES letters? I’m thinking you have. Would you share your opinion about them? As a new convert am feeling very happy about the church and I still would like to learn from more “seasoned” speakers like yourself. Thank you
Hey Veronica, can I suggest you study from the Institute manuals? They are THE BEST resource we have available. They are a compilation of comments by men from CES - like Bro Halverston - and approved by the First Presidency. They are the ultimate start for ANYONE - long time or short time member and will give a basis from where to learn and start on this journey. They will give you a deeper understanding both spiritual and often also cultural of what is happening in whatever you’re reading. All the best!! 💖💖💖
Great advice, CC, and great question, Veronica. I have read the CES Letter several times, and it does a good job of compiling most of the doubts people have raised about the Church, but it's definitely one-sided, negative, and selective in what information it includes and what it withholds. I think most of the conclusions grow out of faulty premises, and not finding balance between "contraries" like humanity and divinity in the work of God. I do read a lot of material that questions faith, but I always give God more than equal time, and the difference in spirit always leaves me with more faith than doubt.
This is really good, but you keep saying that the Law exists primarily to convince of the need for repentance, and I think that's misleading. The Law exists because Goodness isn't relative. The Law couldn't just be any set of requirements that people can't fulfill, thereby making repentance necessary; it's the track that Jesus followed, and it's the only track He could have followed. It's true that the Law exists as it does because it makes repentance possible, but that's only half the story. The Law also exists as it does because it IS a way back to God in itself. Just not a way that we can follow directly. There are lots of engineering problems which mirror this duality, in which you want to you use a process to get material into a particular state, but you can't because the process requires that some of the material already be in that state. So you have to use a different process to get some of it into that state, and then the rest of it can follow on a different, sustainable process that depends on the first material being where you need it to be. In short, the point isn't to convince us of the need for repentance, necessarily. The point is to make it possible to have a Savior while also demonstrating to us the need for one.
The Almighty Knows All Things: Thus He Knows All Things As To Whom Will By- A Human Will Acknowledge Him Sincerely; When, Before, After, Or IN THE VERY TIME OF THE Individuals SINS COMMITTED ...IN THIS SURELY THERE NEEDS BE BE A QUALIFYING HOPE* OF THE INDIVIDUAL * --For The Individual To Further* Recieve- BY The GIFT OF GOD '...* A Sufficient Faith* Necessary-* For In Jesus The Christ☆* ... Through Him... To Recieve Any*PEACE OR PARDISE UNTIL -THE SECOND COMING DOES COME; PARTICULARLY WHEN THE JUDGEMENT BAR OF GOD IS ACTED UPON. The Resurrection* The Atonement. For me The Good News Is That There Will Not Be Any Misjudgements ALL OF GOD AND THE SON AND THE HOLY GHOST KNOW ALL THINGS. Good Will Have Its Reward!
In Alma 41:5 speaking of the final reward/punishment after the resurrection, it reads: "The one raised to happiness according to his desires of happiness, or good according to his desires of good; and the other to evil according to his desires of evil; for as he has desired to do evil all the day long even so shall he have his reward of evil when the night cometh." This is similar in language to other verses in both the Bible and Book of Mormon that speak of hell as the eternal destination for the wicked. Hell is described as a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth, of eternal torment, of everlasting burning. And yet, in D&C 76, we are told that the Telestial kingdom is actually hell (v 84), but is a place whose glory "surpasses all understanding." (v 89) How are we to reconcile the fact that hell is described as a horrible place in the Bible and BOM, and a glorious place in the D&C?
You know the idea of eternal punishment, endless punishment, had troubled the world; and because the scripture speak of endless punishment and eternal punishment, men have stood before congregations of the people and said unto them, "If you don't repent, if you don't believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, you shall be damned eternally; you shall go into a lake of fire and brimstone where you will be ever burning but never consumed"; and thus they tortured the minds of the people by teaching unto them such doctrine as that. The Lord has revealed unto us what is meant by eternal punishment, for he says: "For, behold, the mysteries of godliness, how great it is! For, behold, I am endless, and the punishment which is given from my hand is endless punishment, for Endless is my name." Wherefore- "Eternal punishment is God's punishment. "Endless punishment is God's punishment. We know that neither God nor Christ will dwell in the Telestial Kingdom, therefore I can not think of a more torturous place to live.
Great question, iterum nata (I like your handle, by the way; I'm grateful for what the scriptures teach about the need to be "born again"). It's largely a matter of relativity--telestial glory can be superior to the lack of glory we experience in this life, and still be a far cry from the incomprehensible glory of the Celestial Kingdom. Joseph Smith taught that the "fire and brimstone" the scriptures mention is a description of the regret we will feel when we were unwilling to receive all that God, in His infinite love and goodness, wants to give us. I like D&C 88:32 in that regard.
