Communism Sucks - Sealab 2021 

captain murphy

@@michaellake2184 Is this an example of Murphy's Law?

Ahead of what exactly? XD

​@@logiconlyzoneit's time

But it was only 3 years ago technically

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@@blenderbanana It’s been 6 days. I hope you went pee!!!

::wears Russian commie hat::. Do you love me too wait oh fuck Send bail money to Los Angeles pd south central Broadway depot 😥

I hate him and his mailbox head.

To be fair, five year plans are hard for anyone, especially for a group to accomplish.

That happens whenever you allow centralized power. Communism only works without the state. The joke is playing upon fascist socialist oligarchy societies that claimed they were communist, as when people do not own the means of production and the fruit of their labor directly you don’t have communism. They are making fun of people who think communism is bad, not communism.

@@logiconlyzone Dr. Quinn specifically critiques Marxism and its history moreso than communism, if we want to be even more precise. I think even discarding revolutionary rheorhic, communism and mass production is bound to lead to oligarchy. Easy enough to live in a small commune where people are artisan crafters and agriculturalists, but at a point of production logistical management is bound to emerge, and the value of a middle manager is even more murky through the lens of communism than capitalism. Though the situation portrayed in show is more like a round of Space Station 13 than a serious allegorical critique of communism.

@@MakoProfessionalJerk So, Quin is just espousing rhetoric, where totalitarian is equated to communism just because it was branded in such a way, and the captain of sea lab is doing nothing but focusing on branding. Think about it. That’s why it’s funny. There is no reason why leadership can not be shared and decisions democratically determined, the idea of a single leader who is an “expert” is a myth, most people can be great leaders, and all people should take leadership roles.

​@@logiconlyzone ​ I only watched this clip, so you are probably more on point with the general theme/joke of the episode since you've seen it. But also, being Sealab 2021 the joke needn't be too deep, and perhaps can be reduced to the idea that Captain Murphy has gone off the deep-end, and Dr. Quinn's critique/analysis of the current situation with a blunt assessment saying as much was where he should have stopped. His elaboration and personal views on why marxism is flawed historically is immaterial towards the specific issue, and in the clip this aside he brings up towards his crew-mates only confuses them more, but I do agree with his aside. Also I wasn't really mentioning experts, so much as the idea that while I have seen communism succeed in small communities, logistical management emerges when those communities expand, and I think effective logistical management, a service that produces no tangible materials but is essential to their distribution and production, is inherently at odds with the creative ownership aspect of communism

@@MakoProfessionalJerk All fair. :) You know, no medium actually has meaning in a vacuum, we can connect the dots based upon our perception. Then, a piece of art actually holds multiple perceptional meanings, so the artist does not determine the meaning. Instead, the reader, viewer, whoever that consumes it actually determines it’s meaning, because the art is nothing without an observer that interprets. But of course, the artist can do the same as the observer of their own art. Yet, that does not mean that the interpretation of the artist is any more meaningful than other observers. All interpretations are valid.

Smooth move ex lax…

Especially since it’s a joke and not actually communism.

Yeah, cause then people would have to admit that they are ignorant and do not understand that in a communist society there is no state.

Where tho?

@@logiconlyzone And yet, in every attempt at it...

@@magmos6346 Don't worry, they promised me that next time it'll really really work, I'm sure they've ironed the bugs out and we'll all be singing kumbaya as the state withers. Nope, no way this could fail again, definitely not.

@@logiconlyzone It's the intervening stage of a socialist state engaged in building communism that brings all the horrors. The theoretical condition of communism would be much better on the basis of Socialism having successfully created a new kind of human and a new kind of society. Alas, communism is impossible because those things are impossible. Not to mention the nightmares engendered by the process of actually attempting to create the New Soviet Man. Piling up wealth through what Louis Blanc helpfully called 'capitalism' and Marx artificially constructed into a programmatic and goal oriented system, then moderating it with political and civil society institutions based on liberal democracy and traditional national and social identities, and moderating further with the welfare state of social democracy, is better.

How? The US is so far from Marxism that we hate the working class. We have people who legitimately say about me, my hard working southern family, and everyone that’s not behind a desk 24/7 “You guys should be paid half of what you make now because you’re lazy” as they work 2 jobs. I’ve worked since I was a kid. A lot of people here have because it’s the norm. I have 2 jobs, own being my own business. I’ve only ever voted Republican, I’m patriotic, love my culture,, and am good to my people. To be called “anti-work” makes realize this country isn’t what I though it was.

@@AzathothTheTrueGod clearly has something to do with the effects of sitting behind a desk. I mean, everybody who used to work with me on the highway used to say wow you're a really hard worker. You do double what we do sometimes. Yet all of my bosses who didn't do jack s*** except jack off in the corner all day... Would constantly say how lazy I am like everybody else. I think it just gets to the point where they've totally abandoned the idea of actually working and they don't know how difficult it is anymore. I mean I have literally seen people promoted to desks become like 300 lbs fatties sitting there talking about work productivity and how we can get more done... And it's like... If this person was to do what I do for like 2 hours they would probably have a heart attack. 😈

@@AzathothTheTrueGod The country is not what you thought it was.

​@@AzathothTheTrueGodthe patriot flying the flag upside down. Nice try commie.

@@AzathothTheTrueGodI’ll take things that didn’t happen for $500, Alex.

And then you said communism was bad... And that you are bad too...

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@@luke8857 communism is gay

It's hilarious that this show only got made because they didn't have a budget

I’m praying that they reboot Muppet Babies 🤞

Not because of topic.... But because it's Seth macfarlane network now lol

Nah. Just because a lot of zoomers are marxists doesn't mean liberal, corporatist media is going to go against it's agenda.

They don't show any Sealab today. It's about ratings, not ideology. Rick and Morty and Fox reruns bring in the views.

It is a bit too based for today's more left leaning mass media market

Yes, pointing out the evils of fascism corrupting a utopian society is far too based for the left. You really nailed it. 🙄

they still play sealab on tv

@@logiconlyzone but that very joke probably wouldn’t be written today

⁠@@dylanbuchanan6511Us communists get crapped on non stop. They definitely would write this today.

​@@dylanbuchanan6511stop moving the goalposts and admit you just want something to complain about

@@RongleBringer no. Just wonder why communism has gained such a great following in recent years. I find a new pro-communist channel like every other day by sheer accident. Back when sealab was being written everyone was aware of the utopian idea called communism being a failed state but in the 2020s people are bringing it back…for some reason.

Same studio, they also went on to do Archer

It also aired a full 6 years before Frisky Dingo. So it would be more accurate to say that Frisky Dingo's delivery and style is so much like Sealab 2021's.

LOL. VERY TRUE.

Far right wing government controlled by corporations?

@@murphy1927 No you fool. Don’t you see that Joe Biden is a communist because uh… uh… there’s not enough spray cheese on the food market shelves!? I’m afraid to speak out because the secret police might take me away, that’s why I said this out loud on a public forum. /s

@@murphy1927 No, liberals.

@@Tigerman1138 these aren’t liberals though, they’re leftists

It’s a parody of what people think communism is.

@@logiconlyzoneNo, this is straight up what communism becomes.

There is no state in a communist society. Communism cannot become anything with a state. China claims to be communist, but there is no communism in China. You can put sugar free on a drink that’s obviously filled with sugar, but the label does not make it sugar free.

This used to be a common lack of knowledge people. It’s a parody of the stereotype of communism. It’s a wacky cartoon. There is no state or dictator in a communist society.

It still is among those that read.

@@thetimeisninefifteen You mean “Don’t read” I’m assuming.

@@logiconlyzone The epitome of wit. Ha. Ha. Ha.

@@thetimeisninefifteen Well, dang, thank you good sir. :D

300 million people have died of hunger in capitalist countries since the 70s, no real academic would reach the 100 million mark because that number is a lie made up for a book paid for by the CIA

Well, not sure what you are talking about because in a communist society there is no state.

@@logiconlyzone 100 million people are still dead loser

In a way yes, in another way no. The definition of a communist society is a stateless society.

Venezuela is not a socialist country, the means of production are private and the communist party is persecuted

But it wont make as much profit, which is the purpose of capital and ownership.

Sanders is a socialist. His idea is that redistribution would be handled through a democratic process. Hence why it's called democratic socialism.

Socialism doesn’t work because represented ownership is flawed. You need to have a direct impact on the choice making in your community, including choosing the choices themselves, but this can only work if the people own the property without a government as a middle man.

In other words fascism. Cause, in a communist country there is no state.

Well, most theorists think that large scale communism doesn’t work in the sense that even modern capitalist societies don’t work because democracy only works on a smaller scale. A communist society should function on the basis of smaller autonomous communities that collaborate when necessary but run their own business. Marx’s theory was developed based on epicurian communes that were all across the mediterarian, which still exist as monasteries after the Catholic church conquered the area. It’s possible that each community could function few with a few thousand people each and there could be agreements between communities if people want to join different communities.

No, cause in a communist society there is no state.

@@logiconlyzone Until one shows up with a gaggle of NKVD. Suddenly, one appears. Odd how that always happens.

@@brentsrx7 Nothing can always happen. That’s illogical.

@@logiconlyzone Except human nature persists.

So wrong… haha

It is funny. It is satire. There is no state in a communist society.

L Take.

W take.

Damn straight…

@HarryElephante Yeah, stateless societies are not based? Hmmmm

Based on what?

Based tards in the comment section

@@ianfinrir8724 Good one!

Not based. It’s a parody for ignorant people that do not know that in communism there is no state. It’s not communism.

@@logiconlyzone Thanks for the cope and the mental acrobatics, but yeah, it's obviously a mockery of communism and the kool-aid drinking dweebs who continue to simp for it.