Comparing Chet's and Wemby's Freaky Rookie Seasons | J. Kyle Mann

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When two players set out on their NBA journeys at the same time, their narratives have a way of remaining entwined well after their rookie seasons have passed. Victor Wembanyama of the San Antonio Spurs and Chet Holmgren of the Oklahoma City Thunder are no ordinary rookies, both because of their phenomenal physical measurements and because of their immense feel for the game and talent to play it. They’re squarely at the top of their class, jockeying for supremacy. In this video, The Ringer’s J. Kyle Mann takes a look at how their situations compare and what the future might hold for these generational players.
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@don_brodka 4 месяца назад

Dude, I was not prepared to hear Tjarks' voice. I haven't heard it since he passed away. Did not expect to tear up this early in the morning watching a J. Kyle Mann video! Great work as always!

@dijon.like.the.mustard 4 месяца назад

Literally came here to say the exact same thing. I was so not ready to hear his voice, but as the tears well up, I am grateful to have ever heard such a special person to begin with. To this day, I still remember hearing his last pod on NBA University with J. Kyle Mann. Wow, thank you for that.

@onekidarmy 4 месяца назад

If it comes up again, I really wouldn't mind more of that. He was so smart and ahead on his picks, like Jaren Jackson maybe being better than Ayton. He was right about that and I think about it often

@LLDRv 4 месяца назад

I think Tjarks is still alive. It is just a conspiracy that he is dead.

@pd9020 4 месяца назад

same, that kinda hit me like a truck. in a good way though

@alstocko 4 месяца назад

Again, I came to say the same thing. Was not ready to be this emotional at work

@ARRosey 4 месяца назад

"Viciously back-cut by a giraffe" 😂

@mattmonterrey5638 4 месяца назад

RIP Johathan Tjarks

@LilShrooms 4 месяца назад

man I miss Tjarks. I listened to him on the pods just since lockdown started, and I hadn’t even been listening for that long when I heard the news. He had not only some of the best analysis but an amazing sense of humor and a really funny, distinct voice. RIP

@victornouvel5273 4 месяца назад

as a french dude, i've watched a looot of US content around wemby and chet, and this one clearly stands out. Perfect nuancing of their statlines given their two teams, how they differently score and impact ball games, good takes on what they can evolve as players and a most importantly a deep appreciation of those two future/actual faces of league. great video thanks

@hubertrapinat348 4 месяца назад

La même frère on en avait besoin de cette vidéo

@loichervier7206 4 месяца назад

100% d'accord: cela etant Vic est le ROTY clair et net 😆

@lorenzo6777 4 месяца назад

How’d you get your English to be that good, man?

@sashibrownjr.83 4 месяца назад

Not exaggerating when I say this is the best sports content on the web right now. Salute to you Mr. Mann! The only creator that I routinely go out of my way to re-watch past videos of

@amartojitbasu4411 4 месяца назад

His Luka draft class series is goated af

@Skooppoopity 4 месяца назад

Damn, the Tjarks' cameo. I miss that man so much. Always a treat to have a J. Kyle Mann video

@ThatTallGuy55 4 месяца назад

So good to hear Tjarks' voice man. He is sorely missed.

@basketbear18 4 месяца назад

There is nothing better than a J Kyle Mann video

@Irfanhill 4 месяца назад

Giannis never expected to be "viciously back-cut by a giraffe" that really took me off guard! XD

@CaiusDiplodocus 4 месяца назад

Chet is definitely amazing but he is almost 2 years older than Wemby. Also all Wemby's life changed during the draft , he has to adapt to a new team, new country, new culture, new basketball and he is doing more than all right. Wemby has a really good mental strength. We will have good years watching them playing against each other.

@michaelbrady3903 4 месяца назад

I have a feeling seeing Chet Holmgren as a spurs fan is going to feel a lot like seeing dirk back in the 2000s. I’m gonna hate his guts… but respect his game… when he retires… lol

@Collindunks 4 месяца назад

Common J Kyle Man banger Rip Tjarks

@itstoddclark 4 месяца назад

Another J. Kyle Mann banger

@johnny852 4 месяца назад

Was absolutely surprised to hear Tjarks’ voice come up. Had me tearing up by the end.

@irjake 4 месяца назад

I didn't expect a random basketball video to make me tear up this morning. Rest in peace Tjarks, we miss you.

@toddmentch 4 месяца назад

Exceptionally well done video doc, thanks!! RIP Tjarks

@garrettbaker6481 4 месяца назад

“Soft massive hands to cradle the ball” and then just fucking breezed by it😂😂😂

@colinhannah3515 4 месяца назад

another incredible video from the best in the basketball video Biz. RIP Tjarks gone, but never forgotten.

@andrewcamarillo5728 4 месяца назад

Great video Kyle. Very cool to hear Tjarks, miss him.

@renaudsechet69 4 месяца назад

2 aliens that a worth a double ROTY crown, wembanyama for the best stats, and Holmgren for the impact on his team stats

@LarsMarkson 4 месяца назад

Keep em coming mr. Mann!

@bballlarchive 4 месяца назад

You'd better bet your behind I will

@anirudhaacharya7873 4 месяца назад

Babe wake up J Kyle Mann has posted a video

@fisheye375 4 месяца назад

That girafe got brakes😂😂😂

@owendachisen9203 4 месяца назад

not only have I been *waiting* for this video, but it was still somehow even better than I could have imagined. truly thoughtful analysis in every moment crafted with a lot of care. thanks as always J Kyle Mann

@a-j.2002 4 месяца назад

1. That unexpected guest gave me the chills. 2. I think Chet is awesome, but I'm confident this is going to be a Melo vs Bron kind of rivalry, meaning "not much, beyond their rookie season". Wemby is a goat tier talent. DPOY candidate already.

@indnganksta 4 месяца назад

Damn. RIP Tjarks. Good to hear the voice. He had the best commentaries.

@coreyshafarman8918 4 месяца назад

It’s been since the early 2000’s since we’ve had a great big man rivalry. So excited to see these two go at each other over their careers

@BenlshTracker 4 месяца назад

I really hope Chet and Wemby own the league and become arch rivals for years to come. What a blessing it is for us to witness their simultaneous ascension.

@sneakrzzz8669 4 месяца назад

Yeah Fr. The only problem is I don’t know if Chet will ever get to shine offensively playing with a future star and a mvp candidate

@OpenYourEyes16 4 месяца назад

People saying they’d take Chet right now if trying to compete haven’t been watching Wemby closely. He’s been giving fringe All-NBA production for just over a month now despite being in a terrible context.

@PiriakaTrackwrecker 4 месяца назад

They're both absolutely bonkers. Why compare?

@shepardice3775 4 месяца назад

@@PiriakaTrackwreckerBecause of the context of rookie of the year. Not to take anything away from Chet because he is definitely a special player, but Wemby is clearly just better. that's all there is to it.

@daownerulz 4 месяца назад

@@shepardice3775they’re clearly in different situations. Wemby would not space the floor nearly as well for the Thunder. Stop with the hyperbole

@PiriakaTrackwrecker 4 месяца назад

@@shepardice3775 cool story. If it were possible I'd love dual winners. I'd prefer Wemby to win anyway, despite being a Thunder fan, just so we don't have people crying over his redshirt year.

@SwaySensei 4 месяца назад

Really appreciated the fairness and objectivity of this video. Most people will favor one or the other, but you did a great job of giving us objective analysis, and we can decide who we prefer or even more shocking…appreciate both.

@jacobwalker8730 4 месяца назад

That interview at 9:32 is insane. Look at that little child's baby face on top of slenderman's frame.

@rcast1986 4 месяца назад

Ugh this is so good. You guys are exceptional at what you do.

@pizzaburgerparty 4 месяца назад

Been waiting for this man. Knew youd come in clutch❤

@yessinegourar5691 4 месяца назад

man i loved the Tjarks J. Kyle Mann podcast

@shadowblakemasterson 4 месяца назад

It's always a joy to hear this man talk hoops. Looking forward to the next one. RIP Tjarks

@joshb.1118 4 месяца назад

Its a great rookie class.... appreciate both

@joeyh31 4 месяца назад

J Kyle Mann still the most underrated RU-vidr

@Mister_Mass 4 месяца назад

I love Wemby but I think the media coverage of him compared to Chet’s has been a bit biased due to Wemby’s game being more colorful lol. Fair enough, but what gets lost in all this is how GOOD Chet also is! I think this post does justice to both players without being too much bias 😂. Kind of basketball analysis and content I appreciate. I subscribed 😉

@sneakrzzz8669 4 месяца назад

Real shit

@uuh4yj43 3 месяца назад

any team would love to have chet as a piece right now, he is the definition of an impact player and he is going to get better! i dont see him having his own team but surely he could be the second best player on a contender.

@zenyth9130 4 месяца назад

bro that scoop layup wemby does from the ground is 🔥 it's nearly unstoppable

@Faisaltm2 4 месяца назад

Great work as usual

@bandaid52 4 месяца назад

Yo why did I tear up when I heard Tjarks voice man holy shit... 😭

@1979eweiss Месяц назад

J Kyle Mann, you’re my hero

@joshuahorchler644 4 месяца назад

Another bang! Great shout out to Tjarks!

@KoussailaDebiche 4 месяца назад

0 comparison between a generational Talent a talented rookie At this point Wemby proved so much more in a team struggling.

@kylelanger8611 4 месяца назад

The king returns

@PiriakaTrackwrecker 4 месяца назад

Lovely to hear Tjarks, rip to a real one. I was gonna say, what a time to be alive but it seems a bit distasteful. But it truly is, and it's clear that John already saw it before all of us.

@IScarePeopleInAirports 4 месяца назад

Please post more regularly J 🙏

@siphillis 4 месяца назад

The crazy thing is, Wemby has more obvious room to grow, and more time to grow as well. He's spotting Chet a whopping twenty months and an entire year around an NBA team, and he's still basically tied with him in impact metrics. This is the difference between an All-NBA fixture and a perennial MVP candidate.

@catman-du8927 4 месяца назад

Why do people think Chet being so injured that he had to sit out a year is somehow a benefit?

@OmnipotentSpud 4 месяца назад

They both added size so quickly, too. It's like their in an arms race with each other.

@musicchannel5095 4 месяца назад

Saw Kyle O Mann and hit that ‘like’ before even watching the video 🔥

@JohnSmith-eo2yx 4 месяца назад

5:46 This is the underrated piece of his game, as you said. It can be deceptive because of his fluidity and abruptness, this is the freakiest thing I've seen him do. He's moving like Steph curry off the ball, but with the goat catch radius. It's going to be over once he dials in the decisions and chemistry with his teammates.

@tylersurgery6865 4 месяца назад

wow amazing video

@99dfresh 4 месяца назад

Holy shit this was good content and energy

@tinyteemo 4 месяца назад

j kyle mann, nothing but quality

@donttalkaboutmymomsyo 4 месяца назад

J.Kyle, love the videos, what is your opinion on the take that the rest of the spurs players seem to ignore wemby very often. Do you think thats fair or overblown?

@liamgibbons5266 3 месяца назад

Paul Reed mentioned 🎉🎉

@TyDyck 4 месяца назад

ive been tryna find 6:15 forever thank u

@discobassgroove 4 месяца назад

The league is so stacked it’s insane

@Lunalander 4 месяца назад

Tjarks 😭🙏

@210Deek 4 месяца назад

Not even a competition anymore, Wemby is the ROTY and should have been on the all star team instead of AD!

@Lalambz 4 месяца назад

i hope one day in their careers. they team up! their practice/scrimmages will be insane!

@blakewest5162 4 месяца назад

Get this man his own channel PLEASE

@GustavoSilva-ny8jc 4 месяца назад

0:19 I hate them but i gotta admit is exciting. They're doing stuff people thought were impossible.

@Shahidaprynce 4 месяца назад

RIP Tjarks

@jack4l815 4 месяца назад

The best in this business

@seamusmarpaung131 4 месяца назад

Tjarks the Sharks, i miss the man 😭😭

@WhoJahBless 4 месяца назад

MORE J KYLE MANN VIDEOS PLEASE

@carterholm8257 4 месяца назад

Oh damn....got some little old tears welling up. Miss you Tjarks! I know I'm not alone in this sentiment, but he was the best!

@dimelo58 4 месяца назад

This the perfect title.

@stevieboymkii 4 месяца назад

From what's been seen so far I would have to say that Chet is great but Victor, he's amazing.

@classthoreau3541 4 месяца назад

Every fan needs to be treating the basketball gods right because if these two have long, healthy careers we could legitimately be looking at the next great individual rivalry in league history. They both have the potential to be that good, and they clearly don’t like each other all that much. There are so many ifs, but what started as tongue-in-cheek hyperbole now feels possible: they could be the next Magic v Bird, the next Wilt v Russel.

@jared33edwards 4 месяца назад

The next Magic/Bird type of rivalry?!?

@ccmcglade 4 месяца назад

Chet is somewhere in between Joel and KD: has Joel's post and mid range game, with KD's size and spacing from deep. Special, and somehow only the 2nd best rookie.

@uuh4yj43 3 месяца назад

thats high praise lol i see him more of KAT than a kd, with some much improved defensive chops.

@runningsuperska 4 месяца назад

Whichever one can last the longest without their bones disintergrating will win the match-up.

@abiolaolayinka2023 4 месяца назад

I AGREE!!!!

@horsiloggaming200 4 месяца назад

ROTY+DPOY=WEMBY

@natekong3596 4 месяца назад

Chet and Wemby have similar builds but their plays are vastly different. Chet is spreading the floor and hunting for mismatch. Vic is scratching and crawling in the paint to position himself and attack whoever it is in front of him.

@davorbeljan4369 4 месяца назад

Was this done by a Spurs fan? Supposed video about Wemby vs Chet was 90% talking about Wemby.

@jacksonjones2220 4 месяца назад

🙏🕊

@bookaufman9643 4 месяца назад

Chet is going to be a really good player but I think Victor is going to be a top three player within 5 years if not sooner. If they had decent point guard play in San Antonio the dude would be averaging 25 as a rookie.🎉

@benjaminlockhart8932 4 месяца назад

Hell yes, I love Victor Romano!

@bookaufman9643 4 месяца назад

@@benjaminlockhart8932 I'm partially disabled so I have to do everything speak to text but normally I go back and check to see if Google printed everything out correctly. I'm going to fix that but that is fucking embarrassing. 😂

@benjaminlockhart8932 4 месяца назад

@@bookaufman9643 Don't fix it, it's great and you're great too! 😎👍

@bajafilth143 4 месяца назад

We got brandon miller doing his thing too

@desertedham37 4 месяца назад

banger

@eriksports 4 месяца назад

Shout out Tjarks ❤

@jayemare 4 месяца назад

Chet Holmgren's biggest achievement is being compared to Wemby

@diogoiki6317 4 месяца назад

Teared up hearing Tjarks...

@eddsworldlover 4 месяца назад

Good vid, but you can't count Wemby and Chet as being in the same draft class and say its one of the best ever just bc they're both rookies. Chet was literally drafted in 2022 lmao