Comparing Microsoft Flight Simulator to Real Life (Gliders) 

You did an amazing job despite any setbacks you faced, looking forward to what you guys do in the future! Your efforts do not go unnoticed!

Great, we bought an MSFS setup for our aviation club last summer and we’ll try this! Sound very promising, thanks for all your efforts!

It must be like using an axe to cut down a red wood.

Thanks!

Retired? :(

but most importantly, the weather system will be updated to be fully support things like thermals which are already in the sim, but really require specific weather presets to generate proper thermals (and fingers crossed they implement the new atmosphere CFD, so that rising air will also cause sinking air)

That's awesome. I'm also a big fan of the DG300, very nimble aircraft. Thanks for your comment!

Thank you!

Good point, thanks for this!

Well, it depends on the aircraft in question, some fighter jets are not allowed to land with the airbrake out as it could impact the ground

Thank you! Best of luck with gliding, it will definitely be an adventure!

Means a lot, thank you!

so far I like the gliding in FSX way better than MSFS 2020

FSX with CumulusX and WinchX is far superior to FS2020. Better yet, get Condor 2 and forget FS2020.

Thank you!

:) thanks!

Thanks for sticking around!

Me neither

Thank you!!

Thank you!

Its not an addon. Its an update.

Better go take a ride in a real one, or even better learn to fly yourself.

It makes me very happy to hear that I was able to capture your imagination! I would absolutely recommend joining a flying club. Gliding in particular is extremely affordable compared to powered flight. It'll definitely take you on an adventure, that's for sure :)

Thanks a lot!

Thank you!

Thank you!

Thanks!

That sounds awesome, the Vulcan was a fantastic aircraft. Thanks for sharing, cheers!

Go do it! It's awesome! :D

What a brilliant and inspiring story, thank you for sharing!

@@FlyByMax I just did a nice Alpine flight in VR in the DG-808, it was the first time I've done what I would consider a "proper glider flight" in MSFS of any worthwhile duration. It was watching this video that gave me the inspiration and the necessary "kick-up-the-arse" to get some proper glider flights under my belt and into my virtual log book. I'd not tried the 808 with Kinetic Assistant before and didn't know about the "Soaring" weather profiles it provides, so I used the "Alps Summer" profile for this inaugural flight. I got DEM data for the Swiss, German, Austrian and Italian Alps by "Troglodytus" available via flightsim.to as separate downloads for each area as well as the MSFS 2020 Google Map Replacement app also from there. I flew a scenic 110nm route overflying a number of castles and landmarks. Starting at LSZS I headed northeast towards Scuol, east to Nauders, then south over lake Reschensee and down to Hof am Schloss then east to Merano and finally to LIPB at Bolzano. It really was a very enjoyable flight in many ways and I could have gone on for much longer. I've uploaded the flight plan I used in Littlenavmap to my Google Drive if you are interested, link is below and the file is "VFR Samedan (LSZS) to Bolzano (LIPB)" drive.google.com/drive/folders/171RX5y6EpqC_iEz3BjS0s0PiskcQo2Sa?usp=sharing So thanks for the inspiration to get back into gliding for the first time in over 35 years - albeit simulated and in VR - I just need to slide the window back, get a fan pointed into my face and I'd swear I wouldn't know the difference! 😉

I too flew at West Malling with the ATC but in the 70's in Slingsby Cadet TX Mark 3's. No chance of thermal hunting with them; the best we could achieve on a good day was to do 270 degree turns instead of 90's in the circuit and perhaps throw in a 360 on the downwind leg for good measure. After two check flights with the CFI, who had flown Mustang fighters during World War II, I did three solos and acquired my A & B certificates.

@@GrahamNicholson56 Unfortunately West Malling was bulldozed and a bloody great housing estate stuck over it, the only indication it was ever there are a handful of road names such as Hurrican, Spitfire, Meteor etc. Which ATC squadron was you in, I was 2158 Sevenoaks when I lived in Borough Green and have many great memories of gliding in the ASK-21s and exercises in Merryworth Woods. 😉

Means a lot, thank you!

Thank you!

Nice!

You should really check it out! It's a lot cheaper than normal planes :)

@@FlyByMax I live in the UK, is it available here? Also I studied aerospace engineering by the way, due to covid it's been difficult to get an engineering job, so currently working at Amazon. I am interested in aviation as a leisure, any ideas?

Cool that you did aerospace! I'd recommend you take a look at your local glider clubs. If you find one close by and have the time for it (usually one full day on a weekend), it's a fantastic and cheap way to do some AWESOME flying. If you're lucky you'll also be surrounded by some excellent people to share the hobby with as well. Take the leap if you can, you won't regret it. There are some legendary pilots and engineers who started out as glider pilots.

@@FlyByMax Thank you so much man for the advice. 🙏🙏🙏 I really appreciate it. Definitely I will check it out. I wish you all the best in your career and I hope this channel grows big, because you put so much effort. ☺️

Also the F-16 Falcon - you will find it is pretty standard practice in a most fighter jets as it enables the engine to be spooled up, which is where they are more responsive, while also flying slow enough to land.

Very good point. Completely forgot about that!

What makes you say that?

@@RegularItemShow i have difficulty landing in MSFS. Rudder behavior isn't easy to use. Even after calibrating and changing profiles. Same aircraft in real life is smoother and my landings are usually quite good. In both cases I'm flying a tail dragger.

@@RegularItemShow The same thing that makes me say driving is easier in the real world.

MSFS flight physics are junk. It can't model yaw properly because it doesn't model the wings properly. It's crap. I also fly gliders IRL.

Thanks for the suggestion! Not entirely sure if I could make an entire video on it, but I'm going to consider this.

@@FlyByMax thx

Actually the criticality comes from consolers thinking flight sims are boring. Not from flight simmers being pissy about it being on a console. Which would be a dumb thing to be pissed off about.

I agree, the physics of the X-Plane is better, aerodynamics is much simpler there, there is no simulation of air flows in local areas, there is no CFD, and of course there is no simulation of self-oscillations, almost Roblox, for children the most.

That's awesome! I've flown the Schleicher K8 a lot, which is also from the 50's. We strapped a handheld radio to the side of the cockpit :)

cool! I think I fly an ask 13 not 100% sure however (Also Nice fix for no radio😆)

Thanks! Unfortunately not.

Thank you!

Thanks for still being here!

Thanks!

It doesn't have thermals by default, you need to use addons for that :)

Thanks for your comment! I might do it again with X-Plane 12, good suggestion

Depends on location. I think most clubs in Europe set aside some time for maintenance during winter.

The frame in one of the canopies is a fence wire deflector. There were mandated in the Netherlands. Many out-landings there have to be done on meadows, not on fields because in many areas there are not a lot of them are not availabe. The electric fences which are used to sub-divide meadows are virtually invisible, and the wire cut through the canopy like butter and literally chopped the head of the pilot off.

@@kaihorstmann2783 one of my concerns if the circumstances present themself. The design looks well incorporated into the canopy and not too intrusive. Thank you for the reply

That's a very good point. Condor's aerodynamics are also fantastic, and I think they simulate waves(?). Thanks for your comment!

Or FSX with Cumulus X

@@FlyByMax Yes. Condor 2 simulates waves.

I don't know much about the XBOX version. Is there maybe a marketplace where you can buy additional aircraft? You might find a glider there. Thanks for the comment!

I can definitely recommend it :)

Yes! Adverse yaw is modelled properly :)

There are plugins for it, although thermals don't necessarily line up with cumulus clouds (last time I checked).

I'd say condor is the best in terms of how it does updrafts, as well as aerodynamics (I believe it was developed by glider pilots). X-Plane is currently a little lacking in terms of thermals, but the flight model of its gliders is pretty good. MSFS looks the best and does an okay job with the physics, but I'd say the others are better. :)

Samedan (in the alps) and north-Belgium

I think you may be referring to a different timestamp? 8:39 is north of Belgium :) the footage of the alps is LSZS Samedan

I believe so!

Because we aggregate under thermals, and it gets crowded very quickly. We fly at low speed, high angle of bank, close to each other. Perfect conditions for spins or not seeing someone that is also in the thermal with you. We can be up to 20, 30 gliders in the same thermal during competitions, and likelihood of mid air collision is higher than powered "straight line" flying.

Without wearing a parachute I could not answer to your post now.

LSZS Samedan!

Yeah they only care about vfr and graphics not physics

In the alps we have other things like hangwinds(air pushed up the mountain) and waves(very rare, they form in the lee side of mountains and can get you to am altitude of up to 27km)

No longer needed. Rules are harmonised in Europe by EASA. The only hard age limits are 14 for solo supervised flight as part of the training, and 16 for the full unrestricted license. You can start flight training in a two-seater with a trainer before 14 without special permission. However flight clubs and schools take a closer look at the maturity of a student before they allow starting at 13.

What,

Totally agree! Condor 2 is the best gliding sim with no equal. I fly gliders IRL.