Comparing Sonic X Shadow Generations Gameplay To Older Sonic Games 

People who are legitimately claiming SXSG looks like Forces' level design clearly forgot how bad that games' level design was. Which is crazy considering Forces seems to live rent-free in these people's heads

(Plays the GUN truck segment in SA2) "UGH FORCES LEVEL DESIGN"

Bruh you basically nailed what I've been trying to explain about boost level design! Lol good video

Its been confirmed the level designer and the team from sonic unleashed and gens are doing shadow gens so it’s officially a good game its peak guys its worth getting

People making forces comparisons are mindbroken by forces

Ah yes the gameplay footage where there is clearly multiple paths just by looking is the same "forces level design" Also the fact chaos control actually stops the timer will allow to some absurd S rank times potentially

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this video is fire, people need to stop labeling things as soon as they see them and actually break things down

crazy how we live in a world where people get ptsd from hallways of all things

Mam every shadow generations looks like forces argument went to shit once we leaned some of the gens/unleashed devs have returned

This game looks great. I actually can’t wait, this is exactly what I wanted back in forces. It’s open, I can already see how much fun I’ll have learning to start speed running it. There is a few stages in forces that were fun to run but nothing like generations or unleashed.

You really know your stuff, I disagree on some things but you really explained things well!

I remember seeing the detractors for Shadow Gens in terms of level design for them wasn't outright just the alternate paths, but rather the lack of Drift and Slide

The truth for me is with the boost formula, I like to move like a rocket powered race car since I’ve been a racing fan for a long time, just what I feel about playing this formula 🏎️ 🏁

you explained it so well good job bro, you get a like from me

Sonic forces gave the whole sonic community ptsd, i cant even be mad at it, i personally can see the improvements in shadow generations and really like the triple A feel they’re going for

16:53 Gotta be the most important part for me in terms of gameplay. Overuse of automation in previous Sonic titles is what killed the whole purpose of Sonic games which is 3D platforming. Solid video, Local.

and the crazy thing is that there's hidden chaos control paths that zip you around like a light speed dash section which encourages thoughtful chaos control usage and experimentation. Also we haven't seen the new doom powers in action!! This game's level design is gonna have so much shit up it's sleeve I swear. This opening stage's *level design* washes Unleashed and Generations no biased.

Forces gave people PTSD

Speaking of adventure someone I watched said that sonic team might be ready for adventure 3 after this game and wholeheartedly i agree

4 minutes and 24 secounds is actually a good time the levels are 5-6 minute long all of them in Sonic X Shadow Gens.

Ayy, we have the same desktop background.

Some people are just addicted to pessimism.

SHADOW GENERATIONS IS PEAK!!!

My guess as to why ppl go to forces has less to do with the level design and more so how the layout is integrated in the overall setting. Forces had the thing where the terrain itself was very flat or "inorganic" and so to speak compared to Unleashed & Gens where you'd see curves in the terrain even in corridor sections, it felt more natural in general. SxSG seems to have some of that left in it's DNA(with more engaging layouts obviously), but that could just be because of how the original ARK stages looked like and them playing it close to the chest in that regard.

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Cool explications Bro ❤

Forces pathways are designed pretty narrow. Like they're designed specifically to accommodate you and the gameplay. It feels like you're running through a generated course rather than an actual level. It feels like Cyberspace without the excuse of literally being what I just described in canon. Unleashed, Gens, and even Colors levels are designed to look more open and have more going on in them. Also they're not short as hell save for when it's justified like a tutorial stage. And even then, it REALLY says something for you to take a minute 30 actually playing an Unleashed or Gens 1st level, and get about the same time on Forces' while messing around trying to get to the sand waterfall path. Honestly you should've shown off the jungle stage or Mortar Canyon, two stages infamous for their automation and shortness. People have literally beaten the former one-handed, and you can more or less just jump and boost over all of the latter since the stage goes downward. Also there's the lack of manual Drifting and Wall Jumping save for 1 Avatar stage, so Forces stages aren't design with those sharp turns and wall jump segment, objectively giving them less depth even if length wasn't a problem.

ive seen mfs say its like forces cuse they have no curves......mf what do the curves do to the gameplay??

I hope we can change the button layout

I know were here for Shadow Generations, but as a Colors fan (first game ever) I must defend. I know as a boost game, it's not designed well, due to all the platforming. But I invite you to look at it from a different perspective. If you view it as a different take on the boost, maybe you'll appreciate it. It's platforming challenges aren't bad, they're fun. The only reason people criticize it is simply because it's not like Unleashed and Generations. I can understand why people dislike it. Same for Lost World, the werehog, and even Frontiers open-zone. But please don't use the very fact that it's different as a means to call it trash. Now with that out of the way, I'm glad the folks here on RU-vid, both RU-vidrs and commenters, all agree that the level design is very well done. Some say that it's still not up to (and obvi some mfs say "nowhere near"), the quality of Sonic Unleashed and Generations, but I think it's right up there. I say this because not only are the very people who made said games also come back to cook for Shadow Generations, I can already see signs of what's too come this October. Y'all remember Seaside Hill? People praise that level up and down because of how jaw dropping-ly massive the stage is. I can count about 3 places where there were 4-6 different paths to take, and I love the way some are intertwined. Why do I bring this up? well I'm sure you remember that one open area from Space Colony Ark act 1. You see where I'm going with this? IT'S LITTERALLY SEASIDE HILL AGAIN. And in the _first level_ no less. I have no doubt that Sonic Team will blow us away when it comes out, and hopefully continue to with the season pass and the next mainline game. I know I shouldn't already have high expectations, I even said such myself to others when the initial launch trailer dropped. But I really don't see how they could screw this up, I mean the games already finished (as stated by Midori on twitter).

Damn why you gotta do colors like that fam😭

Good video 👍

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This game is a little bit designed is better than forces and cyberspace frontiers, but worse than unleashed in generations I think the main problem with this level design is the alternate paths connect to the main path way too quickly where it’s kinda just useless. Let’s say there’s a top path bottom path and the main path which is just going forward. Top path is very hard to get to stay on and it’s very different from the main path, but it gets you to the end very quicker with some rewards like a bunch of rings and some lives and red rings, but the bottom path is a punishment for being bad at the game, which is very easy but is filled with barely anything in spikes and it takes longer to get to the end and then the path is just normal where you’re at the game you’re not taking any shortcuts or top paths where it will reach to the cinematic part of the stage of like kicking the barrel and black doom or quicker to the end of the stage, which will give you a better rank I know this is the first level but still the first level should show what the game is gonna be like and how better it will be. another point is this is a personal thing but it’s not just difficult enough and there’s too much automation. I think we should just get rid of dash panels forever. I want to be in full control along with that. A lot of the rooms look very empty and there’s barely any enemies. This is why I like unleashed more than gens because of the difficulty of dodging everything having QTE on your toes and like adventure rail grinding because you have to balance it so you actually have to try. I do like how a lot of the Rams don’t have automation and it’s just you have to boost up there yourself, but there’s literally a segment where you run forward dash panel to the left another dash panel grab a handle goes up slowly and then another dash panel, but by far the best alternate pathways is the one where you go through the ring at defending the gun robot. It’s by far enough and way faster, they just need to expand on that then I think we got some really good gameplay, but obviously there needs to be some stage gimmicks and shadow has certain abilities so he can unlock some cool shortcuts and pathways he could have before from unlocking new abilities, like I said before it’s better than forces and frontiers cyberspace, but worse than generations and unleashed

In my opinion Shadow Generations Level Design is no where near as Bad as Forces but it does have Forces DNA with how reliant it is on Homing Attacks and the Design of its alternate paths. I’m going to make a full video explaining my viewpoint soon as I’m tired of typing it over and over again 😅

Sonic Tuber uses Forces with SXSG video level impossible?

I want shadow to have some flair after his homing attack teleport thing, they just have the same stupid frontiers zero trick flip. Cant even port the homing tricks over from game to game or make new ones for shadow smh. Thats it thats my one nitpick good video😂

Forces sucks, frontiers is decent. This shadow is already better than forces.

Trust me, Colors DS is better then Ultimate and Wii