Comparing The Addams Family Sitcom and 90s Movies 

Who uses it as an insult? Women should be sexual confident by 40... shouldn't they?

40s ? Isn't she 400s? How very ageist to assume she's a sweet young thang.

@@bailegatita Well I did asume that Morticia was in her 40s like Angelica Huston was in the early 1990s

@@harrihaffi2713 I remember an episode of Bones where Dr Brennan gets dismissively called 'Morticia' by other people at her School reunion.

@@eamonndeane587 oh! Cool

The delivery of that line deserves an Oscar all by itself

And the thing is that Debbie could have fit in perfectly with this family. If only she could just see it...

fil?

@@ritanichole in some scenes, she kind of gels with them. And they were sympathetic to her. I'm partly (more) joking but there's a version on which Debbie is the preppy goth member of this group.

It was the most amazing read. Everyone inspires to the level of distaste in those syllables.

Raul is and will always be the actor. His charm and grace and his spirit.

OF COURSE!

@@mafeuk I love you for saying that 🥰

"For you, the Day Bison graced your Village was the most Important day of your life. But for me?..... It was TUESDAY...."

Yes! Such a tragedy that we lost him so young

PERFECT!

it's a good one.

I also love the delivery of the lines from the other girl. She's the exact amount of chipper and naive and earnest, and annoying. :P

even just how the camera moves is amazing, the addams family is truly the best

I love Pugsley's little 'can you believe this?' look, too.

Yes yes we've all seen the copypasta

Kinda sad..

Gomez and Morticia.....relationship goals

That was always my take of them,as popular as family shows like the brady bunch,etc,I always thought of the Addams family as true family values with a macabre twist

Well except for Wednesday's treatment of Pugsley and Pubert lol

Oh and this is the best song made by sampling the Addams family values ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qnGnj_e6gBw.html

That’s awesome!!

Just thought I'd let you know, there's a word for that. Compersion is the contented sense of fulfilment one feels when one's friend or partner enjoys the company of another person. It's kinda the opposite of jealousy.

It's definitely a indictment of society in general and the patriarchy in particular, that Gomez being so supposedly weird and abnormal, not only genuinely loves his wife, but he loves her more than he loves himself.

@@Scientision That doesn't sound like an indictment of the patriarchy to me. Just society and how marriages usually tend to go these days.

Like the gal who married Cousin It! I love that sideplot.

@@ZapDash "What." "I'm Sorry?" "That's the Baby's Nickname...What..."

She really is one of them

Big rapey problem: she didn't like him. She was revolted by him touching her. That scene where she allows him to do it to her because she wants the big plan to go ahead is super gross and hopefully wouldn't be in a kid movie today. I wish she'd just been given a lot of money by Morticia and then just turned into the Cool Aunt without having to deal with Fester, cos yes, she's a perfect addition to the family.

@@eamonndeane587 I forgot about that exchange, but now I want to see an Addams take on the "Who's on First" routine.

I think that’s really more about demand during that period in Hollywood than some hidden connection between the two actresses. Cher was the “it” girl of the late 80’s. Everyone wanted either Cher, Meryl, Kim Bassinger or Sally Field to be in their movie so they all ended up being considered for the same roles. Kind of like how a few years ago every Oscar drama was written with either Jennifer Lawrence or Emma Stone in mind.

I read somewhere that Eartha Kitt was considered for the role of the GHW.

Conversely interesting is that in the film The Witches of Eastwick the role that Cher got was originally intended for Anjelica Huston!

In this review, it was quoted that Cher would unbalance the film, and the narrator said, "what ever that means." I think it means that instead of being "The Addams Family", it would be, "Cher in the Addams Family".

I would die to see Cher as Morticia, she would be amazing

I'm reminded of a SIMPSONS scene where Homer said, "I would die for you, Marge-- I would KILL for you. PLEASE let me KILL for you!"

That sentence doesn't even make sense.

@@Ididnotwanttojoin yeah i think the "if" shouldn't be there

@@fossilfighters101 Yup, I think you're right.

@@Ididnotwanttojoin it’s in quotes because it’s taken out of context there’s obviously more to the sentence but it isn’t relevant to the current conversation

​@@imbuffysummers Not the point. The "if" that is on there doesn't belong and therefore the sentence makes no sense.

"It's not even leather!"

@@dannycarrington1601 "Hi. Will you marry me? I've got the dress already, I've got the plane tickets, and I'm all packed!"

This is so true

@@dannycarrington1601 "Is EVERYBODY gay?!?!?!"

Loved her as the stuck up principal with a passion for Stevie Nicks in School of rock

Both versions have their advantages, though I do like the 60s version a bit more. Their house doesn't look run down, just old and well maintained, even when they break things inside it on a daily basis they get it fixed. I also like their peppy attitudes clashing with the more spooky vibe, they're just people who like different things. The 90s version just exaggerated the dark and gothic elements, but that in itself has it's own charm and shows the different styles between each era. I'll always prefer 90s Wednesday due to Christina Ricci though, some actors really make the character their own and she did exactly that.

Aspirational indeed. One of my favorite original eps is the one where the runaway biker rebel kid finds love and acceptance in the Addams home, compared to anger and judgement from his father.

The TV Addams Family has the vibe of an eccentric Victorian Adventurer's Club. The world out there is full of exotic wonder. The movie Addams Family has an insufferable 90's Goth Kid vibe. Ick.

Love that story line.

I just realized something. I am not american, but of course watched a lot of american media. So I got my image about how the US is, through movies and shows. And I think this monologue might be the first time I was told what really happened in america back then. And I probably wasn't the only child who learned the truth that way.

It was part of what made the film forever hold a place in my heart. Different experiences inform different knowledge is the best thing I can say to the comment above. I remember watching the scene and less surprise as a child and more recognition. Half of my family from a country of a similar bloodshed. It was like "I've never seen anything outwardly admit things that I know from my heritage. That's new". I am bothered by how unbothered by that fact I was but that's the cultural trauma in action I suppose.

we have the same issue regarding our history. it's kind of a long story. to be fair, i was aware of what really happened to the natives and even my children's book was very explicit about what happened.

@@AgentSteffi uh.. 100% of the narrative of anything relating to natives or especially thanksgiving is negative, and has been for at least 40 years. nevermind they got along fine at that first thanksgiving and for some time afterward.

On that note I hereby declare Raul Julia Best Actor and offer up this jagged blade ():::::::);;;;;;;;;;;;;> in his honor.

gone too son :(

Was he nominated by The Kiss of the Spider Woman?

@Jack Kerouak No, but William Hurt won. Which. The injustice. I can't even.

@@LaFemmeFictionale Well, I liked them both. ;) And Sônia Braga as well, of course. This book is just wonderful, by Manuel Puig.

Don't forget the Pitch Perfect Punchline of the Scene: "I can't Swim...."

I think of that line from time to time and it still makes me smile.

Sounds a lot like the people you see on Twitter.

This! The bit about collecting items across different non-white cultures actually reminded me of how the homes of colonial officers are described. So not sure about it being a commentary on the 50s being less fun, but it definitely is romanticising Victorian grandeur, atleast against American capitalistic households

@@neeliknowsnothing Romanticizing! Yes! That's exactly what I wasn't able to articulate. That kind looking back that glamorizes the past.

Keep in mind this person is trying to put it in the lense of modern sensibilities.

@@sashmiel6566 Sure, but that doesn't mean there's not value in exploring outside the lens of this video! Half the fun of video essays is that they introduce something you haven't thought of. That's usually meant to open a door to thinking about a thing in a new way.

yes, exactly. I was a bit on the fence about some things said about the tv show because while yes, they were 'non-conforming' to the norms of the 60's, they were still pretty much not "progressive" either, especially when it comes to non-white cultures.

I logged in to RU-vid to like and subscribe. The final impetus was your post, effluviah, it's one of the best I've seen in some time. Thanks for sharing; three thumbs up.

It is very interesting know what was going on back in the time when the tv show was exhibited. Time really changed and in this case, for better!

@@c.w.miller8195 Thank you very much, I'm glad I could share my mother's commentary on this video with you and anyone else who may like to read it. Since all I did was transcribe what my mother had said, I passed your comment along to her, and she replied: "Thank you for your kind praise CW, I'm happy to hear my old memories are interesting to someone out there!"

Your mom is awesome, and all of her commentary so true. Thanks for sharing it with us!

Wow, this was fun to read. Thanks for sharing

Her mom literally is Morticia! Amazing!

Same, GASPED out loud at the screen!

Same! I went "**Gasp** That's her mom?! SHE'S LITERALLY MORTICIA!"

I didn’t gasp but I said “yooooooo that’s wild!” Her mother was gorgeous.

Oh no! Huston was terrible as Morticia. She didn't have the body, the face, or the grace.

@Erwin Lii YES!!

@Erwin Lii oh damn, that's a sitcom? The pictures on Netflix made it look like a baking show which I hate watching, lol.

@@AgentSteffi Sadly it got cancalled as a full show but she now has a variation on her Patreon. It wasn't a sitcom persay more of a spooky DIY show with a plot built around it. I'm sad it didn't last because I think it had more potential to be great with better writers and ditching the obnoxious franken raccoon lady creature.

@@Firegen1 ahh I see. Wikipedia said sitcom in the first sentence 🙃

@@AgentSteffi That's alright. The Wiki on it isn't great. It's worth a watch to see what you think of it. If you enjoy it, she basically split the format over her socials and patreon and so on.

Agreed

Very much agreed

Was it anything like Daria? Now I have to go look up Wednesday's series on here.

Is it possible to find that show anywhere on the internet?

I’ve never seen this series (just heard of it recently and tbf it does sound awesome), but from what I understand, if she was profiting off of it, it makes sense they would open up a lawsuit. Sort of like the Bridgerton Musical. It’s sad, but understandable. It sounds like the web series did at least showcase her skills as an actress and writer which has led to more credits and success, so that’s great!

You know what, in a way, you're right. I'm sure the 90's Addams wouldn't be so bad to be with, but I think I'd be more comfortable with the sitcom Addams more, mainly because they are more welcoming and open. I was wondering why I had a slight bias towards the show's portrayal and you just hit the nail on the head!

@@CMW1995 yes, I’m a misfit, but far too dorky a misfit to be fully accepted by the film Wednesday!

What I'm thinking into words

@@marypagones6073 are you 14? That sounds like the way a teen would describe themselves going through an angsty phase

I agree. The sitcom has a warmth that the movies kinda watered-down. Creepy wholesome that I feel movied missed the mark....the movies to me felt more gimmicky edgy as opposed to the show where they were an actual loving macabre family

I haven't noticed that people have had a problem with that for about fifty years, now. A return to traditional standards of dress and manners is overdue.

@@bobtaylor170 No, thanks. There's no particular reason for that. Things change for a reason. Much love🖤🔮.

Wait, there are already Gen Z elders? Did you mean Gen X?

The oldest gen Z are 27/28. Cuspers, but still, they know what they're talking about.

"Isn't She PRETTY?" "SHE'S SCARING ME!!!!!"

But she has smiled before. That one was just funny how everyone reacted

Look I honestly got prefer cute Wednesday of the sitcom to the psychopath in the film

@@unknownforever2198 Different smile.She smiles when she's about to turn her match on in the Thanksgiving scene,but that is a completely different smile.Sly,but not scary.

@@Nicamon I was referring to the first movie twice actually.But yea a smile is a smile

Inasmuch as Charles Addams did the first "Family" cartoon in 1938, and had the family in place by 1950, it strains reason that they were about the defiance of "Boomer values." The defiance of Silent Generation and Greatest Generation values, maybe, but if you read the book, The Addams Family: An Evilution, you'll discover that Addams and The New Yorker took years to realize they had "a thing" going with the Family. Addams is thought to have done 1,000 cartoons, of which only about 150 were Family cartoons. Besides, artists don't work that way. They're not intellectuals. They don't decide to concoct a piece of fiction to transmit an idea, the exception being allegory, which any sensible person hates.

@@bobtaylor170 Wow. First of all, I never claimed that's what the cartoonist intended / planned in the beginning, all I alluded to was a modern-day interpretation someone posted on the internet. I never made a definitive statement "this is so and so", I said "I read a clever quote about it which I think fits". Second, "artists are not intellectuals, they don't work that way..." - WHAT? First of all, I am an artist myself and I know plenty of them. They ABSOLUTELY "work that way". Not all of them, but plenty. Like, do you know ANYTHING about art, art history, art theory??? How many poets wrote about poetry and art theory, how many artists did? Jesus. Literally basic standard literature on art making in each field comes from art creators temselves. Stating something like that shows either ignorance or complete misunderstanding of the whole concept of art and art history. Also: Ok, Boomer.

@@esmeraldaloschuetz9120 , there's a difference between practice and criticism. T.S. Eliot was a great poet and a great critic, but I'm sure he didn't write his poetry as a means of transmitting ideas, intellectual concepts. I never said artists weren't intellectual, I said they weren't in general intellectuals. Dwight MacDonald was an intellectual. His contemporary, John Berryman, was a great poet who was also intellectual, but not, I think, an intellectual. At least, he wasn't an intellectual in his writing of "Homage to Mistress Bradshaw." There's an excellent book, "Poets in Their Youth," written long after his death by Berryman's wife. It's fascinating that Berryman was in some sort of flow state during the couple of weeks in which he wrote most of it. He wasn't writing intellectually, he was writing intuitively. He himself was embarrased by some of "The Dream Songs": they seem to have been written by something of a pathological case. Flannery O'Connor's letters show her to have been intellectual, but she shied away from "intellectuals," referring to them as "innerlectuals." She was astonished and disgusted with people who saw symbolism in everything she wrote. You should read those letters, "The Habit of Being." Do you think Ray Bradbury knew any literary theory, or The Beatles any music theory? Flannery O'Connor said that she wrote word to word, having no idea what was coming next. And why, because I know the history of The Addams Family cartoons ( Linda Davis' biography, "Charles Addams," is also a recommendation ), and something of 20th century American life, do you suppose I'm a Boomer? It's interesting that you associate one's being a Boomer with the person's actually knowing something. There are people in your age range who do know things. Half the people I know are scholars under 50. They're Xers and Millennials. I don't know any Boomers that well. Why do you assert that I'm one? Also, don't you know that your use of a dumb cliche deracinates the credibility of the things you wrote earlier?

@@bobtaylor170 1.: "Besides, artists don't work that way. They're not intellectuals." - This is me, LITERALLY copying and pasting your own words back to you. The words "not in general" are nowhere to be seen. You could, of course, edit your original comment after I post mine, but. You know. I screenshotted it. 2. You apodictically stated something about artists and art making, as if it was the only admissable fact, an universal truth. I objected that there are multiple form of artists and art-making. I absolutely pity you if you are drawing these absolutist conclusions of yours just based on the little literary bubble of your personal taste. You listed a handful of examples (partly subjectively interpreted), and therefore the whole wide world of literature and poetry and art and music must work exactly as it did in these few people??? Or at least the "worthwhile" / "worthy" art, as your last sentence suggests, and, let me guess, for the distinciton bewteeen "worthy" and "unworthy", YOU and only you are the one true yardstick? 3.There absolutely are artists and poets etc. who work based on intuition, and instinct, like they’re following a melody deep inside them, some inner red string. There ALSO absolutely ARE artists that construct, and plan, and think about techniques (and yes, to translate a concept, an idea into art - my God, this is literally what art is, but ok). I think, mostly, it’s some kind of combination of both of them, but my main point is: There are literally whole scientific fields on exactly that, things people fucking STUDY. For AGES. Literary Science, Science of Art. (Btw., I do ABSOLUTELY believe that T.S. Eliot's poetry goes FAR beyond "Oh, I'm just associating random stuff that sounds nice", but I digress.) Max Frisch's initial profession was architect. He constructed his great novels like he would an architectonical structure; he wrote about it. Flaubert racked his head for WEEKS for the one "mot just". Friedrich Schiller, Goethe, Bertolt Brecht, Samuel Beckett, Max Frisch, Friedrich Dürrenmatt, Virginia Woolf, Marina Zwetajewa, Max Liebermann… All of them wrote and theorised about (their) art and their craft, like, a LOT, and that’s just from the top of my head. John Cale was a highly trained classical musician with a degree from the Goldsmith College. Didn’t prevent him neither from kicking ass with the Velvets, nor from doing his own, highly poetic thing, later. 4. Are you seriously suggesting that only the pure intuitive art-making process is valid / true art / real? Even without knowing art theory or literary theory, you still can have your own theories and thoughts about the process, simply by consuming the art of other masters that inspires you. This is what everyone in your list of examples did - they all had influences, artists they admired and who they oriented themselves on. Great artists don't always have to learn from academical theory per se, but they DO learn by consuming and observing the art and art-making of others, and drawing conclusions. 5. Even art that strives to be completely free of any method or intent often enough needs and relies on a theoretical backdrop, like Surrealism, or Beat Poetry, or Informel (K.O. Götz wrote a whole tractate on aesthetics). 6. Lastly - I did not assume you were a boomer because you „knew things“. On the contrary - due to your statements, I thought you were ignorant. It’s that you seemed so very triggered by my usage of the word „boomer“. Which, you know. Only boomers tend to be. Your last sentence drove it home - that saturated, unmoveable arrogance. The absolute certitude to be the smartest in any room, always, because all the others just can’t possibly know what they’re talking about; not like you do, anyway. They’re probably just jealous about all the stuff that you know. That must be it. P.S.: „My age“? What do you think is my age? 😀

@@esmeraldaloschuetz9120 , has anyone ever called you a harridan? A termagant, even? Egad, lady, I feel like a W.C.Fields character getting wacked with an umbrella by some censorious biddy. I'll bet you just can't keep the guys away.

IIRC The Munsters was developed specifically to be a competing show with The Addams Family. Addams had thought and care behind the creation of the show, while Munsters was like "OK let's get a bunch of monsters and put them in wacky situations, that'll work."

Late in life Al Lewis was interviewed by FAMOUS MONSTERS magazine (early in its revival). He lamented howmuch he missed his dear friend Fred Gwynne (who'd passed away not that long before). He also compared the writing on CAR 54 WHERE ARE YOU? and THE MUNSTERS, saying CAR 54 was brilliant, while MUNSTERS was "awful".

@@henrykujawa4427 I was an Addam's Family fan and not a Munsters fan when they both originally aired...it took years for me to actually watch The Munsters. While the gags were terrible, Fred Gwynne really was fabulous in that role--his facial expressions, body language...just fun stuff.

As a child who grew up in a loving home, a fair number of TV show parents made me more uncomfortable for that exact reason. I wouldn't say my parents had an Adam's family love, but they were strongly loyal to each other and quietly affectionate. Like my mom could just sit down with a book in front of my father and he'd start rubbing her back, kind of affection. They had their own hobbies but were supportive of the other's. After they retired, they are so much more adorable together. I have pics of them sitting together on the porch when taking a break from doing outdoors work. My mom had the time and energy to take up some of his hobbies so they now fish and golf together periodically. They can share the chores equally from cooking to cleaning to who has to get up early to let the chickens out. I stayed overnight this last weekend and he played guitar and sang quietly to her as she was going to sleep. But apparently that's nearly non-existent. All my friends that came over enjoyed the tranquility of my home and I even once had a friend (in college) tell me that my parents don't have to pretend to like each other (they were holding hands in the car while they drove us to celebrate our joint birthdays, which was also apparently just not a thing done). It shaped my standards for relationships and I absolutely hated the shows where the husband only ever seemed to complain about his wife or her him.

@@catelynh1020 Because of how the current sitcoms have the wives not realizing they married stupid men, I have modeled myself into not being that way with my husband. He is smart, intellectual, and we actually have a Morticia and Gomez like relationship. We never argue, we are with each other 24/7. We both have mental disorders that keep us from being able to work as such we instead receive disability services. When quarantine happened, and we saw all of the memes about couples not getting along because they had to be with each other 24/7, we were confused by it. We love each other deeply and encourage each other in the hobbies we love and enjoy together. The Addams Family is our favorite cinema family for that reason, that they are with each other 24/7 and not at each other's throats for stupid things that don't really matter.

@@psychosislove Good on you both. My husband is my best friend and has been for nearly 40 years. I wouldn't have it any other way. Through good times and bad we're there for one another. I feel very lucky. I, too really hate the spite-filled, mean-spirited families that populate so much of modern TV, movies, etc. And I'm always uncomfortable with the complainers who tell tales of their mate's shortcomings incessantly. I'm glad for you both that you have a lovely relationship, may it stay strong. :-)

Either they pulled crossdressing really good or they lived in Wisconsin (Which had such a tiny population that they had to get women voting in order for them to have a state at all

I grew up in the 80s watching the reruns on Saturday mornings, so that version will always be the one true version (not to say the movies werent good, better than most remakes in general)

*cough* *cough* Will Smith

cough - Johnny Depp - cough

I was so confused about the Nala example, until I realized that people might talk about the remake.

@@AgentSteffi Hey, forgetting that the remake exists is a blessing.

Cough cough Emma Watson as belle

you're gonna love christopher lloyd in nobody

He probably would have put Hopkins to shame.

I didn't realise he was considered for the role, but yeah considering his portrayal of Mack the Knife I think it could have been really something.

Woah, hold your horses, So one good thing is not method acting = method acting is overrated. The mental gymnastics of your logic lmao... I do agree with method acting being overrated but your example is not it.

@@jeromealday614 Geez, would you have preferred if I specified, "If you want ONE EXAMPLE"? You do know that gaining/losing tens of pounds for a role is very common practice for method actors who insist that wearing fat suits won't help them to "feel" and "behave" like real heavyset people, right? And most actors who do it risk long-term consequences from the sudden shift in weight, metabolism, etc. Tom Hanks has diabetes, D'Onofrio tore ligaments during Full Metal Jacket because he wasn't used to the extra weight, De Niro's heart health got so bad during Raging Bull that they had to limit shooting to 4 takes per scene instead of 20, the list goes on. To hear these people talk, you'd think fat suits are for losers. Enter Lloyd: wears a fat suit and everyone loves him. Is it really that big a stretch to conclude, "Hmm... I wonder what ELSE you shouldn't have to do in the name of authenticity (e.g. treating your co-stars like dirt, insisting on being addressed by your character's name, not showering during production, etc.).

"Isn't She PRETTY?" "SHE'S SCARING ME!!!!"

"Get into the holiday spirit"? Ugh. Grotesque.

Lupercalia was pretty horny and dark, honestly, it's right on brand.

Yes! I love that!

Those are good ideas for decorations for a Halloween party.

Man, that sounds like something that ought to be documented!!

When clearing out the parent's house, Char Addam's cartoon books were one of the things I insisted I get. I loved looking thru them as a kid, long before there was ever a show

Well, it’s even worse because it’s a forced Thanksgiving play during a summer camp and overexcited white camp counselors. :/. But really, all the “misfits”…ones who aren’t white, those you are Jewish, a disabled girl, etc…are the Native Americans in the play.

His real life son is Sean Astin the actor who played Sam in the lord of the rings and Bob Newby on Stranger Things. He was also the star of The Goonies as a kid.

@@From-North-Jersey Step Son Actually.

@@eamonndeane587 John adopted Sean after he and Patty Duke were married.

So basically... Director: “Ah crap! With television shows having to convert to color now, does that mean we have to rebuild the entire set all over again to be black and white?.... Nah! Let’s not put in the effort and instead just end the show right now. 64 episodes is plenty.”

@@hunterolaughlin Yep, basically that's it.

They didn't have cans of paint?

A different alternative clearly NEVER occured to them: CONTINUE DOING THEM in B&W. Hey, look at "YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN". Something that has annoyed me for DECADES is when, in the 70s, syndication began yanking B&W seasons from packages, and only running later color episodes, while earlier seasons of series were almost universally better-written. So VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA, season 1 vanished. PETTICOAT JUNCTION, the first 3 seasons vanished. I often think it's lucky LOST IN SPACE never made it to a 4th season. If it had, by far its best season-- the 1st-- might have disappeared for decades.

@@henrykujawa4427 It was just not financially feasible. There are different types of cameras to record color and B&W shows. They would require entirely different lighting rigs. While different shows would have their own, the production studios would re-use the same filming / lighting equipment on all their shows. All of this equipment needs constant maintenance and repair and has to be stored - ALL of this costs money, lots of it. As for painting the sets, well that would require LOTS AND LOTS of paint. Not to mention all-new costumes, props, and make-up (all of which would translate differently in color episodes than they would in B&W.) These costs add up. And while the Addams Family & the Munsters were popular, they just werent popuar ENOUGH to warrant keeping around expensive equipment that wouldn't be used for any other show.

"I Can't Swim..."

Watch old Groucho Marx stuff. It's like Gomez is channeling him.

And don’t forget John Astin (Gomez) and Jackie Coogan as Fester. They were fantastic as well!

I agree. Doesn't really seem fair to call them a knock off.

The Musters haven’t had that magical reboot like the Addams Family has. The Addams Family has had this more than once, while Mockingbird Lane and the Zombie movie didn’t quite have that spark.

It is!

That's a lie I've never seen you at any family reunions!

But that's literally the point. That sometimes the "jokes" reinforce the very thing they make fun of. While we should keep in mind the era a film/TV show was produced when evaluating it, we also need to acknowledge the attitudes and behaviors in our past that were troublesome instead of just sweeping it under a rug by saying, "Yes, yes, but it was OK back then because we didn't know better and it's OK now because we know better now."

@@byMidnyt you can keep holding a bat over historys head all you want but you must remember. History repeats itself wether you want it to or not. You cant stop prejudice because prejudice is always going to happen and theres nothing you can do about it. The only thing you can do to stop bigotry is to ignore them and let them see how wrong they are.

The movies are much funnier than the sitcom, but there are a few fun moments.

@@Trixtah disagree, depends on your sense of humor I guess.

Also take a look for Chas Addams's books like 'Homebodies'. Great stuff.

The white chick who made this video is biased.

Same could be said for Star Trek and Lost in Space.

Yes, excellent casting work!

I think it was that Barry Sonnenfeld magic at the time.

The furniture of that time was inspired by Scandinavian designers and architects.

that’s the whole point he’s not meant to be conventionally attractive

@@equeerstrian3906 I agree that he’s not supposed to be conventionally attractive in cultural, societal ways; however, I prefer him to look like John Astin physically, and not some grotesque version.

The grotesque and macabre elements of the Addam’s family should come from their vocabulary, traditions, home, and style-not their physicality (except in the case of Thing or It).

Look back at the original cartoons (starting in 1938). Most animated versions follow those.

Fully agree

Yeah that white guilt and passive racism really draws the crowds, huh?

@@GODCONVOYPRIME and pooped it is. Life not great?

I especially love her Reaction to Wednesday's Class Display of Great Aunt Calpurnia Addams "We've Told Wednesday.... College FIRST".

Toddlers cry for everything, you don't need to hurt them in any way for them to cry, have you ever seen/interacted with one???

​@@zoazede2098 akljdfklajdf *_yes._* one of my neighbour's a toddler and she literally cries at everything. but unless it's a serious distress she usually stops within a minute or two, too -- and with (afaik) no real consequence to her well being. it's kinda interesting to think about all the shots of kids crying on screen, sometimes might even be worried for them (and tbh, considering the entertainment industry's treatment, _sometimes_ that worry might also be justified), but honestly, once you've spent even just a few days regularly around toddlers, it's like, "oh. no, yeah, kid prolly just cried randomly at one point and they took a five second shots of it."