Component vs Composite Comparison 

Also, great video!

Thanks!

samuelJeriko In the case of consoles before the Dreamcast, RGB SCART is the nicest. The consoles render the picture in RGB (they "think" in RGB), so the signal doesn't get converted to something else. However, in the case of later consoles (idk about the PS2 and XBOX but I know this is true for the GameCube) the console thinks in YCbCr, which is most cleanly used when converted to YPbPr (which is component). RGB SCART cables exist for those later consoles, but it doesn't look as good as YPbPr component.

Yeah my Samsung tv doesn’t support composite so I needed to upscale :/

@@playerjmr get that Converter thing

Smoothed edges.

You can just make your screen darker

+blurayich Not that I know of. You'll have to check for every game individually. I'm pretty sure that most of the games Nintendo released themselves (like SMG, MKW, NSMBW, SSBB) are 60 fps. You can usually eyeball it pretty easily.

I bought a Wii half a year ago :)

I bought a Wii this year!

@@Andree1x Get a wii to hdmi adapter. U can get them for $10ish dollars on ebay/Amazon. And if u really want to get better pictures get a mclassic/ mcable to upscale the picture quality. It really cleans up and sharpens the image

I am trying to decide between component or an hdmi adapter?

@teamsilva7563 I went component because I play on a CRT tv. Not sure which would suit you better depending on the TV you are using⁶

Ahh I see. I think on an HDMI tv I might be limited to HDMI adapter

@@teamsilva7563 yeah most likely. You could always pick up a CRT for that old school flavor 📺 i got mine for free on Craigslist. Just make sure it has the input types you want

lol

Get HDRetrovision's cables. All other PS2 component cables are expensive, shit, or both. www.hdretrovision.com/playstation

I've measured a 1,7 second delay with my Elgato, for which I adjust LiveSplit along with my PC audio, webcam and mic in XSplit (which is also possible in OBS). I also split the audio signal from my Wii to go into my Elgato as well as the line in port on my PC, so I can make the audio from the line in port echo which makes me able to hear and stream my audio. It's also possible to just make the Elgato's sound go straight to the stream though, I just use the line in port to have Wii audio through my PC's headphones. You'll definitely experience delay like this with USB 2.0 capture cards, but built-in PCI capture cards that support component also exist (like the one Jethro has). If you don't have a laptop, I recommend those over anything USB. And yes, I'm playing off of an LCD TV, but component CRTs are known to exist (although they may be hard to find).

Composite sends out a 480i (interlaced) signal and component sends out a 480p (progressive) signal. 480p sends out one full frame every 60th of a second, like you'd expect, but 480i basically sends out half a frame every 60th of a second, and if you're not using a CRT, your TV has to deinterlace that signal to display full frames. That has some bad side effects: -It makes 60fps games look like they run at a lower framerate than they really do. It's not really visible in this comparison though since Ocarina of Time runs at 20fps. -Additionally, some TVs are poorly optimized for that deinterlacing process and add additional input lag if you're using a 480i signal. Component sends out a 480p signal and doesn't have that problem, so if you use component, you may experience less input lag. -Interlaced footage has another side effect. Around areas of fast movement, you'll likely see lines on the screen. Again, it's not really visible here since Ocarina of Time only runs at 20fps. There's more differences than just 480i and 480p though. Composite gives a muddier image than component, since all of the picture data is squeezed through the one yellow cable. This may result in a weird checkerboard effect around areas of high contrast (depending on the game/system, Ocarina of Time's composite signal doesn't suffer from this too bad but SM64 really does. Just look at twitch.tv/mrspeedrun for an example). -Obviously, the colors aren't as vibrant. -The individual pixels don't seem as sharp. Try watching this video on a 1080p screen, really take a close look at the logo and you'll see what I mean. -Some games (like PS2 and PAL GameCube games) can't run at 480p and just use 480i, but because of all of the things listed above, component is still a better choice for those games. If you want to capture your footage, the purchase of the cables + an HD capture card is pretty hard to justify. However, if you're aren't capturing footage and your cables go straight to your TV, it's SO worth it. The cheapest third party cables are $5 on Amazon and I promise the results will blow you away.

For €20, get the official ones. That's a good deal. Not all 3rd party component cables are reliable, and idk which ones are and which ones aren't. (The reliable 3rd party cables that I currently use are shaped and colored like the Nintendo ones but don't have the Nintendo logo).

If the converter doesn't mess with the video, then yes, it does make the video quality better. I hear the one by RetroTINK is the way to go. Specifically the "2X-Classic" or the "2X-Classic Pro". Pro adds some nifty features, but none that I personally care about.

mine still looks the same as 480i

Yeah, that's just how the component cables work.

I just used the default settings with the Elgato Game Capture HD. I later found out that the problem is that there's a slight difference between the NTSC-J video signal and the NTSC-U video signal, and I think the brightness issue comes from the Elgato misinterpreting the NTSC-J signal as NTSC-U. Other software like AmaRecTV allows users to change these types of settings, but unfortunately, Elgato's software is too dumbed down for that. I do plan on making a video in the distant future that compares all of the most practical options for image quality for Ocarina of Time runners. If you're interested in the differences in video quality, I recommend you watch the RGB Master Class by My Life in Gaming: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VtTM7nU9SMA.html

big brain idea

S-video is demonstrably less sharp. Better than composite, but component wins.

S-video gang

Kenneth Solano Read the description. Make sure to get the Neoya or the Sewell one (with any others, you'll probably get additional input lag). The quality is equal to component, but there seems to be a slight gamma boost: thethrillness.blogspot.nl/2014/02/neoya-wii2hdmi-review-component-vs-hdmi.html In short, the quality is pretty much the same as component, but since HDMI is more common on TVs these days, Wii2HDMI is usually more convenient.

The best I can find right now is the Kcool

The n64 doesn't support component. It does however support S Video, which is also an improvement over composite. You might not have the port on your tv though, it's an old connection.

Yellow Magma 720p or 1080i. No 1080p (although the Wii will never output anything higher than 480p)

Jelster64 do you Know if component cables work with all games or just a few and do they work with ps2 and the original xbox

On the Wii, they work with all games. On GameCube, they'll always produce an image, but not all games support 480p (and only use 480i). I don't know what the situation is on PS2 and XBOX, but you need cables individually made for each console.

All games allow use of component on PS2 and XBox, but some aren't programmed to allow a high resolution. But all games will enjoy improved color depth and blur reduction.

There's comparison images in this article: thethrillness.blogspot.nl/2014/02/neoya-wii2hdmi-review-component-vs-hdmi.html Also, if you're interested in getting one, make sure you either get the one from Neoya or the one from Sewell (www.amazon.com/Sewell-Wii-HDMI-Converter-480p/dp/B0072JP56G). Apparently those are the only ones that have been tested to be input lag free.

Thanks for getting back to me so fast! I'll check it out

Thanks for getting back to me so fast! I'll check the link

Short answer: no. Long answer: it's possible if you RGB mod your N64 and buy HD Retrovision's SNES component cables, but you won't get results like in my video (because the Wii displays OoT at 480p and the N64 does it at 240p). Also, many TVs don't know how to handle 240p over component, so maybe you wouldn't get a signal at all. Maybe that answer went over your head. If you're interested in N64 video quality, this video explains it better than I ever could: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qpy1M6v2_MI.html

Jelster64 what about ps2 i can use ps3 cables right. And would that make alot difference.Im using standard red yellow and white and it looks kinda dark and fuzzy unless i change some settings on my tv. But i really think i need component cables. Im usin a hdtv sony bravia

Jelster64 would walmart have component cables that will work for my ps2??

Because I'm an OoT speedrunner and this video was made to show off the quality difference to other OoT speedrunners. If you wanna see the comparison with an actual Wii game, there's already plenty of those on RU-vid.

muh... my childhood.

It's not that dark irl

@@4pri792 It’s not the color nor brightness. Composite is simply a blurry mess. In CoD 3, I can’t even see enemies at 10 feet away. In NSMB, Mario disintegrated into red lines.

@@khoado2060 I know what composite is and honestly what you're describing I haven't had to deal with.

The question is why did they ship with all the consoles? for the sake of few pence They could have shipped the console with RGB cables or in North America Svideo cables why didn't the Wii come Component cables? Can you imagine now if the Xbox one X shipped with composite cables and you have to buy a HDMI separate in order to get the best image quality out of the console it's pretty stupid when you think about it

what about RF?

Jamie Ryan yeah, i absolutely agree. even the xbox 360 came with composite. there's hdmi, who's gonna use sd? just stick with the best experience for your customers. hdmi is regular. heck, don't supply a hdmi or batteries, we have our own. just let us have what's best. since wii isn't hd, fair enough, but they should've at least advertised their own hdmi converters to get the best quality. they'd have absolutely made more money.

RF.