COMPRESSION IS BETTER THAN OVERDRIVE // BOSS CS-3 // REVIEW, DEMO, PLAY THROUGH // SJSS 

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Keeley compressor plus into east river od into isp decimator II noise gate

It is not intimidating. There is no contest. Just learn as you can, when you get to it. Just relax, play, learn, have fun. Learning is a life long thing, no worries.

I discovered this myself yesterday, so looked it up and found this vid. I have a CS-3 with the levels set just above unity for a little bit of compression/sustain/bloom. Recently bought a Tube Screamer Mini and was underwhelmed by it. The TS seems really thin compared to my OCD. I decided to increase the level on the CS-3...it helped boost and fill out the TS. Unlike the OCD that is a stand alone OD into a clean amp, the TS is meant to go into an amp breaking up (already cranked), so not very bedroom friendly. Using the CS-3 as a slight boost helps (better than increasing the drive/level on the TS which looses clarity).

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Thanks! Glad it inspired you!

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When I made this video and had this particular rig yes

Personally I would add it before. The reason being is because if you're playing a song that primarily is using only an overdrive, but you want to just kick that overdrive a little harder? You can do that And then if you want some insane feedback for whatever reason, kick the compressor and the overdrive on

@@SloppyJoes_ShredShack awesome I'll need to copy your settings 👍

I was on the clean channel (on the edge of tube breakup) until about 6:20, going through various amounts of level on the CS-3. After that, I switched to the rhythm channel and did the same thing. The only thing being adjusted was the pedal.

I was only using one pedal in the video. I made a reference to Matt Pike of Sleep/High On Fire. He has been known to stack compression pedals. Sorry for the confusion! Thank you for the kind words!

That's the gain on my amp getting pushed by the compressor. The actual distortion you hear is the preamp tubes getting pushed.

Correct. The point being is that overdrive and distortion pedals compress the sound but also add distortion. What if you want the signal to be compressed but with no distortion? That is where this idea steps in. A EQ pedal can boost the sound but it won't compress it. Using a compressor as a boost is the best of both worlds.

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@@deanmlshredder Did you pass third grade?

@@michaelcraig9449 lol? I didn't neever. Y du u ask! Or is it that you've never heard the song and didn't get the joke?

I would recommend it. I like compression alot and I also love a 6505 that's being pushed by an overdrive. So personally, I would use the compressor to push the front end of the 6505 and then use the overdrive to add some extra gain/punch for solos!

@@SloppyJoes_ShredShack awesome thanks!!! Yeah just putting together a small compact chain to pack a punch going cs3 ,precision drive, and then a sonic stomp trying to achieve that epic level tone. 😂🤘😂🤘

Do you have anything in your chain (pre-CS3) that could be noisey? Compressors will take a noisey component and make the noise quite a bit louder. As that is the nature of compression.

@j s That's exactly what I do, I run the compresor, Overdrive and distortion through the loop of the ns-2. Btw, I did notice that turning the knob More than Is showed in the video, the hiss starts going up insanely

Sustain above 1 o'clock adds noise.

I find the East River is really veiled. It's distortion is flat and papery. Really didn't enjoy it. I bought it without ever playing it, figuring I'd find a place for it on either of a couple boards. Well, I found a place for it in a pile of half dead cables. Really disappointing. But the Soul Food definitely did find a place as an almost always on pedal. But I always hold out hope that I just didn't figure out the East River and pedals like it. Someday I'll wire it up and plug it in and give it another shot.

@@alphanumeric1529 how it sounda the soul food?, how it takes an orange amp?, thanks man, sorry for my bad english

@@rosendosalvadormosquedatri4950 Sorry, haven't been checking my messages. I've never played through an Orange. I play through a Bugera 333. The "distortion" channels are way, WAY too distorted. I play everything through the clean channel. I play through on old Peavy Half Stack with 4 Sheifields from the 80's. So, I don't have any tube slight breakup on the clean channel. It is clean, clean, clean, because my amp is 120 watts. If it were a 20 watter, I could push the pretubes, and the powertubes, and get natural tube feathery edges on my notes. But no, I'm pure clean. So, I like the Soul Food, it does give that clean sound, like the sound of your guitar and amp, but with the right drive setting, you can get to that place, where when you're playing, each note is clean and clear, but when you play hard, and dig in, you'll get a little break up, you'll get that feathery edge on your hard notes. Also, the Soul Food has a good tone control on it. Everything for guitar nowadays is about heavy low end. That is not where the guitar is supposed to sit. That is where the bass, and kick sit. The guitar is a MID RANGE instrument. So, I find I need to take a LOT of bass out of my guitar tone, and the Soul Food's tone control is great for that. The Soul Food is almost always on, when I turn it off, my guitar gets really big and bassy, but again, that's not what the band mix needs. So, again, the Soul Food is almost always on. And I have a Way Huge Swollen Pickle mk2 after the Soul Food, and the Swollen Pickle really, really makes the guitar sound huge, too huge. So, I use the Soul Food to thin out my guitar, so when it hits the Swollen Pickle (which btw, is an AMAZING fuzz pedal - it has 7 knobs, 2 hidden, you can get SO MANY fuzz tones out of it - I hear a lot of hate for it online... the only thing that I can figure is that people don't know how to use it, like there are too many knobs, too many combinations... but if you just play with the knobs, you WILL get a huge range of FUZZ, this is my BEST pedal, by far, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!), again, I use the Soul Food to thin my guitar sound, so when it hits the Pickle, it gets big again. But if I didn't have the Soul Food, my guitar sound would get Way TOO Huge. I mean, a lot of people just noodle around by themselves, they don't play in a band, or play live. I suspect, you'd want a big huge sound, with plenty of low end, as you are only listening to the guitar, there is no bass or anything, so I guess that is why they add all this low end to everything guitar nowadays. But if you play in a band, you know you need to thin your guitar out, or you'll just get sonic mud, with the bass and guitar mushing together into inarticulate mush. I bought a cheap Danelectro 6 band eq pedal to better control the equalization of my guitar signal. But it added too much noise to my signal, and didn't sound right, I didn't like how the cuts sounded, and the boosts didn't sound right. So, I removed it from my board, and I found that just the tone control on the Soul Food did everything I needed. I also got the 6 band eq to try and remove a nasty 6khz zing noise made by my Zoom CDR-75 pedal, a digital pedal that draws a lot of current, and introduces a lot of noise into my power, even though I have an "Isolated" power supply. The first time my current band played live, when we sound checked at gig volume, my whole band had their fingers in their ears, and were like, "WHAT IS THAT NOISE!" The dirty power noise gets LOUD at gig volume. And it is a really piercing pitch too, nasty. Anyway, I don't have a lot of experience with a hundred different overdrives. I have about 4-5 fuzz pedals, a couple distortion pedals, a 3 or so overdrives... I've played a few overdrives a long time ago, can't recall. But the Soul Food is great, as far as I'm concerned. It is almost always on, as just a part of my basic guitar sound, and I've been using it for a dirtier tone lately. Rather than that light tube break up on hard notes, I've been using it with more drive, for an always slightly dirty tone, and when I dig in, and play hard, the Soul Food actually gets into distortion territory. Also, I figured something out about the East River pedal, that I'll post to the original comment that we're under here in this comment thread. I found a use for the East River!

alpha numeric wow, thank you for the Answer man, i think im trying the soul food, thanks man

This is Alpha Numeric from I guess a year in the future. I used the East River pedal as an overdrive for one of my synths, and it sounded great, like totally usable, nothing like it sounded on my mexi strat. With my Strat, and Bugera 333 on the clean channel, which is crystal clear, impossible for me to get any kind of break up on that channel, as the amp would be SO LOUD passing helicopters would fall out of the sky. And I only use the clean channel of this amp, as the "overdrive" channel is way, way too distorted, and the "distortion" channel is even more distorted, just an inarticulate static basically, you can barely make out the pitch of a note played. Seriously. So, it is a one channel amp for me. And when I used the East River as an overdrive, I hated the sound. Usually I can get one or two usable sounds out of any pedal, but the East River always sounded bad. I could always hear my guitar signal, then a separate sound of the distortion, or overdrive, of the East River. Like there were two separate sounds, which is not good, or at least, it didn't sound good to me. A good overdrive, imo, should be part of your guitar sound, like it should be relatively transparent, meaning the sound of your guitar and amp come through, but when you dig in and play harder, you get some of that tube sound breakup, or feather edges, or fuzzy warmth on the harder notes. But that overdrive sound should be a part of the guitar sound, not like a separate sound that is next to your guitar sound. If any of that is making sense? So, the East River was off my board in favor of the Soul Food, which, imo, is an excellent overdrive. I use it lately for heavy overdrive, into light distortion, or even distortion distortion. But one day, I wanted a little hair on this synth sound I was recording, and I thought, lemme experiment with the East River... Really, I wanted to use the Soul Food, but it was velcro'ed to my board, and all plugged in and tight. So, I thought, lemme try the East River, and I expected to hear what I heard with my guitar, like I'd hear the synth sound, and then I'd hear another layer on top that was the distortion of the over drive, but they'd be separate. But I plugged it in, got the gain structure right, and whammo bammo, it sounded good! And there was only ONE sound, the synth sound, and when it got loud and resonant, the synth sound would overdrive just a bit, and get some hair on it. I was totally surprised. This was one of those situations where you expect failure, but surprisingly, it sounds good! So, I don't know... I've broken my pedal board down, and I only have 4 pedals on there now, my signal chain goes Mexi Strat -> Soul Food -> Swollen Pickle v2 -> Tc Electronic mini purple flanger (forget the name, I think the Vortex) -> Zoom CDR-75 -> Bugera 333 on the clean channel -> an old 80's Peavey 4x12 with Shefields. So, maybe I'll just pop the East River back over, and see if I was just tripping the 10 times I tried to get a usable sound out of the East River. I was totally stunned when I used it on synth. It was like when you think you're taking a sip of 7-up/Sprite, but it's really water, and you taste it, and there is this moment of what the heck, what is going on, I was expecting that 7-up taste, wtf is this water taste?? That's what happened with the East River and this synth. A moment of wth, this sounds good! And not bad, that I was expecting! So, I'll try it again on the guitar. I thought maybe it was an impedance issue or something, like my Strat has passive pickups, the synth has an output amp, so I'm sure they have a wildly different impedance, I don't know how impedance works/vs capacitance, vs resistance... the fundamentals of EE have eluded me all these years. But there was something very wrong about the passive guitar sound into the pedal, and something very right about the active synth sound into the pedal. So I'll try. My time is at a premium. I'll do it ASAP and hopefully report back to this comment, for whatever reason! The future!? By my ASAP takes a while. ALL THE BEST, AND GOD BLESS!

"High end" doesn't mean jack shit in 2020. I play a cheap Bugera 333XL and this still applies. Name tags don't mean a thing. Use your ears not your eyes.

Something that I made up on the fly, homedizzle! Most of the riffs I play in the demos/review, that I do, are made up on the spot.

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Hahaha what a clown!

It's very underrated!

I mean, yeah. Lol. But I'm not sure if he does the compressor stacking on the old Sleep records. When the video was made I don't think that The Sciences was even out yet.

Yeah, just take out a loan first.

Hey hey!! Yeah dude, when used right? Compression is the COOLEST