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Here at the Live & Flip we needed a new driveway. The asphalt company ran out of product and never covered the sides. They refuse to return our phone calls and now we’re in need of a retaining wall before the driveway collapses. Multiple estimates from hardscaping companies put us in the ballpark of $4,000-$5,000 to fix this problem.
#diy #remodel #renovation #hardscapedesign #retainingwall
Good thing that our specialty is DIY.
This build was a fraction of the price and really fun!
126 bags at 60lbs each = 7,560 pounds
At the time ‪@quikrete‬ was only $3.31 for a 60 lb bags so we destroyed those estimates by thousands of dollars. At ‪@HomeDepot‬ the same at ‪@lowes‬
Quikrete-$417.06
Rebar-$70.46 for ten, 10 foot pieces that we cut in half, 20 total 5 foot supports
Water/Rain was free!!!

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@koastalklash1005 Месяц назад

How'd it work out?

@GoodTroubleHome Месяц назад

We are really pleased with the strength and stability of the wall💪🏼there was a good amount of cracking on the top row. I will address that with some sand and quikrete patch. Thanks for reaching out @koastalklash1005

@DTAP17 Год назад

Anyone saying this won't work is CLUELESS

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

Everyone is untitled to their opinion @DTAP17 👍🏼 maybe they had a bad experience or got bad advise in the past. Either way, I know this wall won’t last forever but it will last longer than my driveway and my truck. If it falls apart I will build a new one and make it better

@DTAP17 Год назад

@@GoodTroubleHome Much as I am warranted mine, thus your reply was pointless.

@thedriver02 6 месяцев назад

Hmm, no doubt i bet that would work quite well. Its just a cost difference between bags of concrete vs retaining wall block, or cinder block. Both of which i think would have less lateral strength than this. 🤔

@GoodTroubleHome 6 месяцев назад

Right on @thedriver02 the cinder blocks would have been the cheapest but I wanted a rounder look. At the time the bags of Quikrete were cheaper than the hardscape blocks that I was looking at. Plus I like being different 😜

@anothertime2023 19 дней назад

Love this project, going to have to attempt this ❤

@GoodTroubleHome 16 дней назад

I will hopefully be putting out a follow up video in October @anothertime2023 we could have done a couple things differently and gotten better results. There was a little cracking that we should have addressed right away instead of waiting until after winter. The ice and snow got in and opened a couple of the cracks more than I would have liked. Please let us know how you make out!

@anothertime2023 16 дней назад

@@GoodTroubleHome excited to see it! I will let you know ❤️❤️

@normbograham 3 месяца назад

As weird as it sounds, we did not even use the rebar when we did this years ago. I only followed the retention wall about 7 years, and we had some bags turning into the high side, like any retention wall, even though it was only 3 bags high, but I was waiting for failure, and never saw it. It seemed too easy, and looked cool. The load on the bags was from the retention of the wall, and driveway traffic.

@GoodTroubleHome 3 месяца назад

Did you have any cracking @normbograham ?

@normbograham 3 месяца назад

@@GoodTroubleHome I looked at it from the car for a few years. It was between a driveway and a ditch, so, it was weird enough, handling a load including vehicle load. I think it was clay soil, which might alter something, since there is a sticky to the soil, moreso then sand. Honestly, it sorta irked me that it was performing that well, since concrete was always a big deal, except that time.

@GoodTroubleHome 2 месяца назад

Concrete is amazing! Thanks for reaching out @normbograham

@beansuppa7872 Год назад

I see. You wasted 126 bags of concrete. Cool.

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

If it doesn’t look good when I’m finished, at least it’s some solid backfill 🤷🏻‍♂️

@beansuppa7872 Год назад

It’s all good. I was just joking around. I love figuring out workarounds. Lol, when you share it with the masses, they don’t always see it your way.

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

@@beansuppa7872 I know, I wasn’t offended. I’ve messed up a lot of projects in my day and this might be one of them. I subscribe to the motto that there’s more than one way to cook an egg. Hopefully I didn’t scramble this one LOL

@jamesbernard6841 Год назад

@@GoodTroubleHome next time make sure you give the wall a pitch that flares out at the bottom essentially stagger the wall inward as it builds up this makes it harder for the dirt to push the wall out years down the road

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

Each level I stacked, I tried to set back about 1-1.5 inches. There is about a 10 inch pitch from the bottom to top with all the rebar angled as well. Hoping it’s enough 🤞🏼

@devoncantrell4577 2 месяца назад

Genius

@GoodTroubleHome 2 месяца назад

Thank you @devoncantrell4577 are you thinking about building one too?

@PatriotParty Год назад

My only concern on doing it this way is you have a barrier between each bag of concrete (the bags) so the concrete won't adhere to each other and basically every bag is a "brick" not one solid piece. If im missing something let me know. I have no issue with dry pouring concrete wouldn't leave them in the bags myself.

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

Yes, this was one of my major concerns too. That’s why I put so much rebar in there. I’m thinking about pointing between each bag with mortar. Maybe that will add a little more support. This was my first try at this. I would definitely do a couple things different.

@emmittmatthews8636 2 месяца назад

This was my first thought too, but with the way the bags mold to each other, they kinda interlock some. They fit together very tightly anyway.

@GoodTroubleHome 2 месяца назад

Yes they definitely mold and lock onto each other @emmittmatthews8636 kinda of like stacking sand bags around an area to keep water out. Every hurricane season, you see on the news, business owners down at the beach doing this to keep the water from destroying their property

@ostrajazda7507 Месяц назад

Did you make any drainage at the back? if yes, what kind of drainage?

@GoodTroubleHome 28 дней назад

There is drainage @ostrajazda7507 we put about 10-12 inches of rocks to drain the water down and the bags are not tight together so whatever’s left will come out through the wall

@saragrooms1415 Год назад

My husband works for our local county in the road and bridges department. They are currently working on a wall just like this.. yesterday they used 185 bags and are back at it again today to add more! We recently tried the dry pour concrete technique for a shed slab and were really happy with how it turned out!

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

That’s awesome Sara! I would love to see a picture of that wall when it’s finished. We are planning a dry pour pad for our shed in a couple weeks and I’m kinda nervous 😬

@WhatDadIsUpTo Год назад

@@GoodTroubleHome Might I suggest you have on hand a sack of Portland cement to scatter on top as you begin sprinkling water, IF you want a perfectly smooth finish.

@GoodTroubleHome 11 месяцев назад

@WhatDadIsUpTo thanks for the advice. I was actually thinking about doing a German schmear over the top to fill in some of the cracks

@convo8506 8 месяцев назад

Any changes you’d recommend to this method? Looks solid

@GoodTroubleHome 8 месяцев назад

@convo8506 it is really solid but it all depends on what you’re using it for. What’s your project?

@yinnetteolivo Год назад

This does work and is a nice way to quickly build retaining walls.

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

Small retaining walls and flower beds seem to be the perfect DIY for these concrete bags. Have you used them for any projects @yinnyqueen

@yinnetteolivo Год назад

i live in Tampa, I have seen these exact walls on the river behind homes. I had NO idea this is how those walls got their shape! Pretty cool.

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

That’s amazing! I never knew that this was used in commercial use. If they use it in Tampa to protect homes from water damage it must be sturdy and reliable 👍🏼

@robbieward7026 Год назад

Looks clean and efficient. Food for thought, do you think if you took something like conduit pipe, capped one end and drilled holes to perpetrate it. Would hammering those in on both sides of the rebar give you the ability to be more confident that the water was able to fully penetrate into the center of the bottom bags? Or am I just over thinking the process?

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

Hey Robbie, that might work but I’m not sure it’s worth the effort or cost. I used one 4 ft piece of rebar in each row. At 25 rows, I would need 50 pieces of conduit and drilling holes in all of those might be the end of me 😂 I know the whole dry pour method seems to be a short cut and not as strong as a mix but I left one bag in my garage for the past year and it is solid as a rock. And I never put a drop of water on it. Maybe it’s magic or science but for now I will just trust the process I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

@robbieward7026 Год назад

@@GoodTroubleHome haha no doubt, you'd already know if it wasn't going to hold up. Great job, keep inspiring people!

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

Thanks Robbie! I’ll admit that it isn’t perfect. There are some cracks on the top row that I filled. I think there wasn’t enough dirt supporting the back edge and cracked under its own weight. I saw someone else that had that problem and solved it by wrapping the top row really tight with packing tape. Thanks for the encouragement. Don’t be a stranger around here. Love your comments!

@mattfrownfelter558 2 месяца назад

After the bags have set for a few months you can pressure wash the cardboard off of the front and it looks pretty clean.

@GoodTroubleHome 2 месяца назад

I was actually thinking of burning the excess bag off with weed torch @mattfrownfelter558 I know the pressure washer will work fine but I have some concerns. There are some small cracks that got bigger over the winter. I have to patch them but wanted a cleaner surface first. I think the water pressure may blow out some of the aggregate and make it worse. Any thoughts 🤔

@FishermanKyle 2 месяца назад

@@GoodTroubleHomeplus, fire is ALWAYS more fun. When you can use fire, you just do. It's a key rule in my book.

@GoodTroubleHome 2 месяца назад

Totally agree @FishermanKyle 🔥 I’ve planted some flowers next to it already so I have to figure out a way to protect them

@williambock1821 6 месяцев назад

If I had someway of being sure water got to all of the concrete, I’d be fine with it. The thought of dry patches inside would haunt me constantly. I would just do it the usual way to avoid the anxiety.

@GoodTroubleHome 6 месяцев назад

@williambock1821 I was skeptical too about things. I would definitely do it again. Maybe next time I would wrap the corners tight with packing tape on the top row to keep them more round. Also to ease my mind about the water penetration, maybe take a pencil and poke holes in the top 🤷🏻‍♂️

@bendy6626 15 дней назад

@@GoodTroubleHomeThe rebar creates a path for water entry.

@GoodTroubleHome 13 дней назад

Good point @bendy6626 I’m guessing it’s not much but it doesn’t take much moisture to get concrete to start setting

@mattfrownfelter558 2 месяца назад

You need a sealer of some sort. Assuming you are in a part of the world where it freezes, apply a concrete sealer to block out moisture so you can prevent freeze thaw cracking. Repair cracks, then seal. In that order. My best guess. 😅

@GoodTroubleHome 2 месяца назад

Aww yes @mattfrownfelter558 it definitely freezes here in Pennsylvania. Our plan for next month is to burn off the bag that hasn't deteriorated yet, then fill cracks and seal. And hopefully put out a video on the mistakes we made and suggestions to make it better 🤞

@TheTweetybird1122 11 месяцев назад

I've seen some great projects done without premixing the concrete. Just watering it every half hour. Really hope you post an update!

@GoodTroubleHome 11 месяцев назад

I have a video that I am working on right now @TheTweetybird1122 it didn't turn out exactly the way I hoped but I have a lot of tricks and tips to share

@nofurtherwest3474 7 месяцев назад

Sooo could you build an actual house like this???

@WungusBill-lf4iu 6 месяцев назад

@@nofurtherwest3474 I definitely wouldn't, but... maybe? There are certainly cheaper and better ways to build a house.

@nofurtherwest3474 6 месяцев назад

@@WungusBill-lf4iu it seems that wood frame is still the best and cheapest way no?

@WungusBill-lf4iu 6 месяцев назад

@@nofurtherwest3474 Depends on the area you live, building codes, and the local abundance of wood, but usually yeah. Definitely in America outside of niche situations.

@IcutTrees 6 месяцев назад

If you’ve never seen this come to anywhere in fl😂

@GoodTroubleHome 5 месяцев назад

Ha ha @IcutTrees we have family in Florida and I’ve definitely seen them. Those bag walls and culverts are getting put through multiple hurricanes a year so you know they’re strong 💪🏼

@bendaves77 Год назад

Did it work and did you tear off the bags afterwards

@GoodTroubleHome 11 месяцев назад

There are definitely some areas that cracked. Some big and some small but I knew from the beginning that I would have to patch a some problem spots. All in all it feels really solid and it has served its purpose

@bendaves77 11 месяцев назад

@GoodTroubleHome I appreciate your honesty and response.. having proper drainage with tile behind it helps alot. Many landscapers don't use tile and then the wall moves and falls or looks like crap

@bendy6626 15 дней назад

@@GoodTroubleHome Consider that over time and a little weather, it will begin to look more like an old rock wall. Beauty!

@GoodTroubleHome 13 дней назад

Thanks @bendy6626 I don’t mind patching small cracks every couple years as long as it stays strong. I love the weathered rock look 👍🏼

@michaelparker5640 Год назад

Whatever works ✌️

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

It did give us some good content and inspiration for our channel 😂🤣

@josephjoestar5444 9 месяцев назад

How’s the water penetrate the entire bag solution ?

@GoodTroubleHome 9 месяцев назад

I found this online. It explains things way better than I could @josephjoestar5444 “Many people think you need a lot of water to harden concrete but that’s not true. Concrete bags left outside don’t have to get rained on to harden. Even high humidity and dew on the bags is sometimes enough to harden them. Concrete absorbs water like a sponge and can suck it right out of the air.” Gambrick.com (looks like a concrete company) a lot of useful info

@darkchiild1 8 месяцев назад

Bloody expensive retaining wall 😮

@GoodTroubleHome 8 месяцев назад

Believe it or not @darkchiild1 this cost us less than $700. The three estimates that we got from contractors are between $3,000-$5,000.

@EliBuildsThings 8 месяцев назад

@GoodTroubleHome if you wanted cheap and obviously doesn't need to look that good I would have gone with a wooden retaining wall as someone who works in landscaping. In my professional opinion from what I could seen I would have suggested building a retaining wall the length of most of the driveway and then dropping the lawn down and leveling it. How did you get the having a poured asphalt driveway that was that far above the lawn?

@GoodTroubleHome 8 месяцев назад

@EliBuildsThings thanks for the comment! The driveway was a mess from the moment we moved in. We added a second parking space at the top and I wanted it level. This caused the grading to be off on the right side. In my follow up video you’ll see that I did bring in a truck load of dirt so that I didn’t have to move anymore bags. Lugging 156 bags around got the best of me 🥵

@mikd1420 Год назад

Has the bag itself deteriorated away? Does it just look like concrete blocks now?

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

I can’t believe it but the bag has not fully deteriorated. I just bought a weed burning torch and I’m going to burn off all the rest 🔥

@Yvng_YBK-RRR Год назад

@@GoodTroubleHome it’ll take a while for it to go away on its own It’ll have to go through lots of rain But if that works do it

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

@@Yvng_YBK-RRR I definitely didn’t think it would still be there over a year. I guess we didn’t have much rain or snow in our area so the extreme weather was at a minimum 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Yvng_YBK-RRR Год назад

@@GoodTroubleHome give it a solid 2-3years it’ll be gone

@lfuentes4098 Год назад

How has it held up?

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

There’s a fair amount of cracking on the top row but I expected that. I have an exterior concrete caulk I will use to seal it. The rebar is holding great and there has been no shifting. Thanks for asking!

@DzasterNL Год назад

@@GoodTroubleHome nice one! I need to build a wall holding some of the dirt, about a regular mens height. I will try this one.

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

I’ve seen a couple people on RU-vid do taller walls than mine. Not sure if they did things drastically different than me. Personally, I wouldn’t go much higher than 3-4 feet but if you want the challenge let me know how you make out 💪🏼

@DzasterNL Год назад

@Good Trouble Home i will! I think about placing them in a angle and maybe 2 rows. I don't know exactly but next week or so I need to work on it. I'm renovating my garden. There is a sound barrier at the end of it, I shoveled a big chunk out of it. There will be a shed in front of it when it's ready.

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

After putting down my bottom row I set each level back 2 inches as I stacked them up. My top row has a couple cracks because there is lack of support underneath

@VineyardGHS Год назад

Oh no this guy built a West Virginia wall. I hope you capped it off with some sort of elastomeric within the first couple months. Otherwise your rebars probably already got enough moisture in it took completely rot out within a year

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

At a corrosion rate of 0.1µ per year, it will take 31,750 years to reduce the diameter of a #5 rebar from 5/8 inch to 1/2 inch, and 158,750 years to corrode it down to nothing. If Stonehenge had been built with well-placed reinforced concrete instead of natural stone, the concrete would still be totally functional today. www.jlconline.com/how-to/foundations/is-rusty-rebar-a-problem_o

@sleaveysleave Год назад

Concrete only has a lifespan of 100 yrs mate lol

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

I’ll do a recap video in June of 2123 🤣

@Mattlawton-ft6ew 10 месяцев назад

Impossible to corrode that fast

@Mattlawton-ft6ew 2 месяца назад

@@GoodTroubleHome yes ill be there 🤣🤣👍👍

@locksmithmuggle Год назад

Retaining wall blocks are cheaper than this

@GoodTroubleHome 11 месяцев назад

Yes, especially now with product prices going up. I think the bags and blocks I wanted were about the same price. The rebar was cheaper than the block adhesive. I feel like there is more room for error with the bags. The ground doesn’t have to be totally level for the next row to go in. That’s not the case with the blocks. Main reason for doing it this way was to save the labor cost for hiring a hardscaper 🤷🏻‍♂️

@michaelparker5640 Год назад

Should have been fixed the right way in the first place 🧐

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

I agree ☝🏼 this was really frustrating. We called the company for weeks afterwards and got no return calls. I think they were con artists.

@soccerkills Год назад

Even if you take it out of the bag there are trolls you didn't use the right revar it's wet its gana crack you dint mix it right its too thin and the list goes on no matter how good you make it

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

There is definitely a little room for error with Quikrete but this wall is sturdy and serving the purpose 👍🏼 thanks for the comment @soccerkills

@owomushi_vr 7 дней назад

Walls are immoral

@GoodTroubleHome 6 дней назад

I’m hoping this wall is immortal 😁 @owomushi_vr

@zahidkharal3472 Год назад

100 more rains

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

Your comment had me wondering how many days of the year it rains in my area. The Google says it rained 137 days in 2022 🤔 feels high

@bread1206 2 месяца назад

You did it wrong turn the bags over on the other side.

@GoodTroubleHome 2 месяца назад

Yes @bread1206 I wish I would have flipped them all upside down. I am working on a follow up video and this tip is on the list. It would have definitely prevented a majority of the cracks

@zacharyhuntsman7310 7 месяцев назад

Retaining wall with no footing

@GoodTroubleHome 7 месяцев назад

Hi @zacharyhuntsman7310 the ground in our area of Pennsylvania is pretty hard. Very difficult to dig in. You see a lot of old farms built in the 1800s with rock walls surrounding their property. They didn’t use footings either and those walls are still holding strong. We’ll see though. This was kinda a necessary experiment at the time. Thanks for reaching out 👍🏼

@jstrange6009 Год назад

Nope.....

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

Love the Mr Yuk profile pic J Stange. I’m guessing the wall isn’t your style?

@alicemartos7769 Год назад

Who the hell thought of this????? Noooooo goofballs🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

I know it seems ridiculous Alice 😂 it actually works though. Not sure it’s everyone’s cup of tea but it keeping our driveway from collapsing and it was a fraction of the cost to hire a hardscaper to install a block retaining wall

@DTAP17 Год назад

This is common and WORKS

@alicemartos7769 Год назад

I guess you all don’t realize it’s not going to last right??!! I’ve done concrete walls… many of them… !! Your way may last a couple years …hope it lasts you!!! 🤷🏽‍♀️

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

I realize this won’t last forever. Hoping it lasts 15-20 years and if I need to patch a couple areas, Quikrete makes a great crack filler. I would love to hear any suggestions or recommendations. That’s the great part about the comments section. Everyone can share their experiences 🙉🙈🙊 good & bad!

@alicemartos7769 Год назад

@@GoodTroubleHome my…. Suggestion… POUR a concrete retaining wall🤷🏽‍♀️. The process shown will PROBABLY last a couple years if your lucky🤷🏽‍♀️

@user-en8ep9lz4i Год назад

Do not do this

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

I already did, what is the main issue with this method. I’d love to hear your feedback

@rockymini625 Год назад

Hu?

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

Hu-Hundium is the provisional non-systematic name of a theoretical element with the symbol Hu and atomic number 160. Hundium was named in honor of Friedrich Hund (1896-1997), who governed the electron configurations with maximum multiplicity (known as Hund's rules).

@Stonedstoney135 Год назад

Never ever have I seen that process work. You just wasted time and money. Will never absorb enough water to cure. Also, where is your drainage behind the wall? What a hack!!

@GoodTroubleHome Год назад

Nathan, there is a concrete bag culvert down the street from my house that has been there for at least 18 years. It’s still looks like it’s in great condition even with water rushing through it. There is a lot of stone behind our wall for drainage and the bags are not tightly locked into each other. I used a lot of rebar so it will hold for a long time. I know it’s not everyone’s style but it’s what we could afford and I don’t mind failing at projects. Trust me if it fails I will certainly let the RU-vid community know 👍🏼

@Stonedstoney135 Год назад

You do you.