I really can’t believe this is exactly how my first playthrough went without me even trying to do it I just didn’t understand the game, but the legion irritated me so I left them for the very last to visit. But even then, I tried working for them because XP is XP. Long story short, turns out Caesar isn’t very specific on how to deal with factions, because he began attacking me after I just assassinated the 3rd potential alliance leader in a row Apparently Mr. Tumour meant that as a last resort, meanwhile I was seeing my quest log simply update. I hadn’t realised how close I was to execution for almost all of the playthrough until he snapped. I even tried talking to him when he had a headache and he just killed me Personally I think I did a very sufficient job for the circumstances, and his ungratefulness has stuck with me in every playthrough since
@@XXXTENTAClON227if you try to kill your employer for not obeying the orders and he just stands still without any reaction to injury and tries to talk with you it means that it's not you executing him it means that he spares YOU from execution
It reminded me of my idea: i always wanted to do something i called "comedian route" where courier just stops giving a fuck about all that bullshit around him and just makes jokes and doesn't takes anything serious, chooses only sarcastic or funny lines and responds in every dialogue where it's possible, siding with powered gangers only to stab them in the back during the assault on good springs, convinces the guy who thinks he is a ghoul that he is actually a ghoul, making everything possible to piss off every faction as much as possible before meeting them, siding with a legion just to troll Caesar as much as possible and then running away when he tries to execute her, and then proceeds to do the same shit with every other faction. Convinces Benny that she likes him and killing him in his room(i will litteraly choose female character only to do that) . Steals only alcohol in bars and then gets drunk during the fight mostly watching her companions fighting in a distance while proceeding to drink all stolen alcohol and entering a fight only when there is a and actual danger for her companions life and has terrifying presence to spook the shit out of people when it needs or when she finds it funny. Makes cass give up her caravans by winning her in drinking race. She messes around with companions doing stuff they won't appreciate like using drugs in front of Cass, but she is not a jackass she has moral and tries to avoid fighting where it's possible and serves justice towards scum and bastard's of wasteland, she is supportive and helps hwr companions fight with their problems, helping boon make his deal with wife death, telling Raul he should leave the past and move on, convincing Veronica that everything that happens in brotherhood ark isn't her fault and etc.Uuuuhhhhh, what ideas can you give me guys? Share it if you have one
Fallout NV has an incredible amount of choice in it for something that was rushed as quickly as it was. Many A True Nerd did a whole bunch of runs that were fun to watch. Kill everything, kill no one, beat the game on a single health bar... Good stuff.
"Now is the time to confess your crimes" The Courier: Takes out a scroll that unwinds into a comically long list that rolls out of Caesars tent, through the camp, down to Hoover Dam.
@@Kingmakerrr1337 1 hour later. Caesar barely staying purely by barely restrained rage. The Courier nears the bottom of the list. Courier: "Crime 2077: Gave a dozen dog tags I pickpocketed off NCR to stay on your good terms while assassinate everyone in the camp. And finally:" Caesar perks up. Courier: "Reverse pickpocketed C4 into everyone's pockets, including yours." Caesar: "WHAT?!" Courier: clicks detonator *BOOM BOOM BOOMBOOM BOOM!* Benny: speechless, horrified and covered in Legion blood and viscera. The Courier: slowly turns to him holding a .45 pistol as the Legion outside the tent die to a minefield placed around the entrance. The screams bellowing like banshees. The flames of the explosions flickering through shrapnel torn holes in the tent, illuminating the Courier's head wear in reflections of fire. Benny: Panicked shuffling away. Courier: "Calm yourself." cocks handgun. "As you said, this game was rigged from the start." *gunshot* hard cut to the Fallout New Vegas logo on black background.
he isnt that much of a tyrant if u just nit a betrayer or tribal he let towns live aslong they pay tribute his slave army is only made of peoples who are violent unreceemable psychoapth tribes he is trying to rehabilitate
@@kazumazu3632 this would make sense since he is trying replicate ceaser , ceasers death dint case a colapse in the empire it boirthed it when his nephew was named his heir his nephew forged the empire
@@jacobwhitley3767 I never noticed this. I and many other people likely simply thought Caesar was being an outrageously arrogant but amusing idiot in trusting a Courier who actively sabotaged every single push for conquest. I mean a normal person wouldn't think to trust someone who's been positively identified as your saboteur.
"If you have any other crimes to confess, now's the time." "...and last but not least, Graham is alive and well, and we kicked the White Legs out of Zion."
@@MegaNightmare4 More like "better than ever, and the most dangerous he's ever been." I mean, the very idea that Burned Man lives is a problem for Caesar, as there are maybe 2 or 3 people in the legion who aren't terrified of what Graham is capable of, if they believed he still lived. Caesar himself was rumored to have scouts looking, himself not believing Joshua was dead and fearing what it might bring to his Legion. To most troops, it's only a rumor, because he could never openly admit to his men that Graham yet lives. He forbids troops from speaking his true name with the hope that they will forget him, the man even their own mighty Caesar couldn't extinguish. Ulysses will tell you legates were sent to end him after the burning incident, but didn't try even though they could've gotten him. I personally don't believe that they could, just like I think Ulysses is self-deluded. And he is just a man. That's what makes him so scary. It's like fate itself wouldn't let him die, left him to live as their greatest threat, just looming... as though the fire of his anger keeps him from passing on. More of a threat as the burned man, than he ever was as Joshua Graham... like a vengeful spirit haunting the Legion. Someone they couldn't stop, someone they pretend doesn't exist anymore. They did him a favor. Treated him like refuse, and in doing so, hatched a living legend. A man kept alive only by rage is a fearsome thing indeed.
Honesty isn't the same thing as bravery. Defying orders to cause your side to loose, that's cowardly. Blowing yourself up, also cowardly. So yeah, coward is right.
I love how this makes the Courier look like a total goofus who accidentally sabotages the Legion at every turn. Especially when dragging Big Sal up to Caesar like a kid who just knocked over an expensive vase. "Sorry Boss, it happened again."
@@Falkriim Brain tumor Premium + for 9.99/minute you can feel excruciating pain of constant migraines and awful headaches 24/7 as well as the constant imbalance of blood pressure in ones' own mind.
@@dynguskhan I got my playthrough ruined because of this bug :( This was my "last" and full new vegas playthrough, all quests done, all dlc done, lvl 50, and i wanted to once in my life finish the game with Ceasar, but because of this bug i simply cannot confess in crimes and then Ceasar automaticly got mad after i told him that i already took care of Brotherhood of Steel, although the only thing that i did wrong is dealing with Omerta. Had to end the game with Yesman
It's pretty hilarious if you think about it. "You get one chance, right here and now, to confess all your crimes. After this, it's the death penalty." (Courier spends the next 6 hours reciting darkest secrets in chronological order) "Are you done, Profligate?" "No, that takes us up to the age when I learned how to play with myself and before I learned what to do with it. We've still got hours to go."
It’s so funny how they set Caesar up as this brutal tyrant who kills anyone who so much as disappoints him, burns his best general alive just for losing a battle…and then you come in after actively destroying the Legion’s efforts multiple times and he’s like “Well…don’t do it again, ok?” You can really feel the writing creaking under the strain of not locking you out of questlines.
You could argue on the other hand, keeping the Courier around, even if they are a fuck up at times, does more good to keep them out of NCR/Yes Man/House's hands, since you're arguably the most pivotal person in the entire Mojave.
In the eyes of Caesar this guy is just one of the most capable and resourceful men of the Mojave, yeah he did bad things to the legion, but the Legion didn't even approach him till that moment, so that's why he forgives all. In the end it doesn't matter if you ruined his petty plans, you are still the key piece that would help him to conquer the whole region.
@@marcosnore8763 Ok, but if you’re going out of your way to sabotage his plans and actually attack and wipe out Legion forces, why would he possibly think you’re going to suddenly start working for him? He doesn’t even offer you any reward or incentive, just “Are you ready to get started?”
Im just imagining The courier pulling out a comically large book containing every crime they've committed to the legion and placing it in the middle of the tent and grabbing some ladders and reading it from the top to bottom
Most of the Caesar's Legion questline was cut because the devs didn't have enough time to finish it all before the deadline. A lot of content was cut, just in general. Some assets are still in the game's files.
@@PRubin-rh4sr is frankly astonishing given the quality of so called successful equivalents that take years to produce nothing of value in comparison eg. Bethesda Fallout
"I'll have my Praetorians cut you to pieces with machetes" Meanwhile, the courier, looking down at their Advanced Power Armor, made to deflect anything short of an anti-tank rifle.
Virgin Courier: Ruins weeks of planning and manuevering, just for his own amusment Chad Caesar: Defies Courier's assasination attempt, emerges unscathed from minature nuke detonations, punches his would-be assassin's corpse
guy who thinks he's the smartest man in the world: This random dude with severe brain damage has ruined several critical military operations of mine. I think the best choice is to give him a stern talking to
I feel like it's times like this when the legion kinda falls apart (on purpose): you're confessing a list of "crimes" to Caesar, and he's acting all unforgiving and powerful; meanwhile you're standing there like "shut the fuck up old man, I might as well be God to you." For everything he can do, the one thing Caesar sucks at is intimidation.
its not really that he sucks at it, its just that since you the player take until mid game to meet him in a normal playthrough assuming you are not rushing you may be level 20 or 30 hell 40 depending on how many side quests you have done. Its more of a meta problem. You know that by the time you even get to Caesar's camp you can probably kill everyone in there (after a few tries) at a average level but that goes for all of the places in the game as well past lvl 20. If he was introduced to you earlier when you are at say lvl 10 he would have the same intimidation factor that Vulpes has when you meet him at Nelson. I will say the VA being a little Blasé doesn't help the case but he does do good.
I have always killed Vulpes instantly despite being level 7 or so at that point, except in evil playthroughs. Eh I mean based playthroughs. I agree he's more intimidating than Caesar compared to the enemies you've encountered up until that part. I also feel like Caesar's throne tent is way too easily accessible. Even a lowlife like motor runner is better set up. I mean the man reigns over Arizona he should have thousands of elite troops preventing you from threatening him.
I gave Boone a minigun, had one myself and we went to town in that fort. This has been my worst crime against the legion. Do you think the fine red paste I turned Caesar into using said minigun would forgive me?
"If you've committed any other crimes, this is the time to confess them, because after than there will be no forgiveness" "Well, now that you mention it..."
It's actually impressive that ceaser is able to keep his cool when you're confessing your other crimes. I mean, I get that he did say now would be the time to do it, but come on, those are some pretty big things.
0:56 I love skipping over the bomb dialogue. Just imaging he was okay with confessing he 'accidentally' killed the Nelson garrison, fucked up the Omerta AND Great Khan deal, but letting him know you defused the bomb is just something you're too scared to confess is hilarious.
I remember when I first played this game I was gonna do a legion run but then I was conflicted so I chose the Im done option and when Caesar called me a piece of shit I was just like alright baldy now your dying😂. I was able to kill him stupidly easy but then got murdered by all his guards so I reloaded and tried again and died so then I went and got Rex and Boone and it was gr8😂
I love ruining their plans, they threaten me, i leave, then return with all 6 possible companions in power armor, armed with super sledges, and rex, Its beautiful to watch.
I Remember one of my first NV playthroughs, Me, Boone and Ed-E storming the fort and clearin that mofo. It was prior to me buying the DLC so I hadnt robbed the madre for the gold so it was all basic stuff. It was some of the most fun ive had playing a game lmao
