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That is the grown up version, or more appropriately, the big word version, of the child with cookie crumbs all over his face saying "Ididn't do it! it was the dog"
Yep I lied about an illness when i was 10 and immediately felt shitty and knew it was wrong and told the truth not even with 10 minutes after lol. He had it made having a youtube channel with millions of subscribers
For real. Listening to him get flustered and scream when it's obviously no one is buying his BS, reminds me of how I was a problem child pre-teen trying to lie my way out of something I 100% did. Thank goodness I grew out of it, maybe Goobie will someday.
“It’s the last bit of privacy I have left” he claimed As if everything we know about him hasn’t come from him. The only reason people are talking about cancer is cause he’s been running around saying he has cancer. He wants the pity party and shield of going “boohoo I have cancer so I can’t be held responsible and it’s my birthday so you can’t be mad at me on my birthday so if you think I did anything wrong and point it out it’s cause you want me to die boohoo” but since people aren’t buying it he’s dropped the pity party act and is screaming liar at people over the phone while lying about the likelihood that he forgot he was being recorded. Cause he seems to want to have on record him saying coffee is nice and he appreciates him but not himself shift the narrative multiple times over the course of the conversation. He’s pathetic at this point. I don’t even think he believes anything he’s saying anymore. “Money is all gone” I have never heard used to say I already have plans for the money. I’ve heard “The money’s all going into _____” to refer to having money but not being able to spend it because of an upcoming bill.
Remember, he said he would have shown a couple people for free the night before. But now when 80,000 is up for grabs, he won’t show one person in private.
Christ as someone who was a fan of his like a decade ago I was patiently waiting for a redemption arc. I've finally come to the conclusion there is none. Fuck Boogie
I have cancer. it took me nearly two years to tell people other then my immediate family. I can't even picture lying about cancer. the amount of people wishing and praying for a clean bill of health and boogie poisoning himself and is almost happy being ill while lying about cancer.
Hey rich, why don’t you wanna tell more people? If you feel like you have a close community, please share, if you are comfortable. I say this bc I’m a city girl but had some rural activities and so I met a lot of country folks. A lot of them older white people. I left to college, took a gap year, graduated, and came back to find that so many of them had been dead for years. When you’re young and just starting your life sometimes it feels like everyone will still be there when you return, frozen in time. It doesn’t go that way. I really regretted it. I live in America where politically things are really divided, I am black. And I really wish I had spent some more times with those folks and formed some better memories with them and in those lands, bc I would *not* set foot out there now. Really a lost opportunity to learn more about people different from me, a lost opportunity to form community with a different generation and different culture, and now with the way things are, I don’t think I’d ever go back. If you trust your community, let them know. They may regret so deeply in a couple of years bc they thought that they’d always have a “tomorrow” with you. Hope you get well so that telling them isn’t even necessary to begin with. That is plan #1 ofc, but if there’s any chance, please consider letting your community be there for you.
@@Limitedonathios i won't speak for rich, but i didn't share my diagnosis for weeks (and at first only to close friends, because i was drunk) out of fear and shame. i can't even quantify or describe the fear or shame - they were just extremely prominent emotions that hung around the topic and i couldn't bring myself to talk about it because of the intensity of those emotions it was then very relieving when i did, and word spread and people were supportive but never suffocatingly so i got extremely lucky with an experimental treatment (i outright refused any kind of aggressive treatment because i saw a grandparent just wither away under such treatment while tackling their own diagnosis), and wish everyone else the best on their own road to recovery. i also strongly urge anyone trying to cope with a diagnosis watch hank green's self-documented journey through his own treatment - i found it extremely comforting, strangely even the parts where his treatment was hurting him as part of the trade-off 'faking cancer' is... like, i can't even. of all the things to use the basis for a monetary scam, opting for a life-threatening illness diagnosis? :(
It's surprising to see the lengths someone will go to instead of just being transparent. Makes you wonder what else is being hidden behind these manipulative behaviors.
I think it's a problem abusing substances. When someone has extreme money problems like this, and they don't make any sense, a lot of the time there's some kind of addiction underneath. Addictions cost a lot of money, and the dealer (or the casino, or the camgirl, or whatever)... they only take cash. They're not going to take an IOU. Otherwise... where is all this money going? It doesn't add up. It's not like Boogie blew it all on a sportscar or a trip to Tahiti or something. It just disappears. Into the addiction.
@schizoposter1499 I watched him for many years, his lies use to be much smaller, little white lies if anything....the past 5 years has been a violent decent into blatant lies.
@@wolfumz Boogie wastes all of his money on sex workers. He's admitted to spending 200K so far, which means he probably spent more. His current girlfriend entered the picture when his "financial problems" began
Cancer doctor here. I’ve seen many lovely people die from this disease. Once I had a patient who died, and I found a gofundme he’d started to cover his expenses. He’d raised $20. Wonderful guy with a sweet family who loved him very much. Meanwhile this sack of garbage raises thousands while faking cancer to spend on hookers, his mortgage, whatever. Absolutely infuriating.
Terrible, so tragic…. My mother passed from cancer a few years ago… But wait, if you’re really a cancer doctor, can you please expand on his “animal crossing” form of cancer, which I guess means it’s very light/not too dangerous.
@@jjmusicarchive2998so sorry for your loss. As for boogie, I can’t say I’ve followed everything he’s said. But from what I’ve seen, he’s saying he has polycythemia vera, a disease that, while it’s a blood cancer, is not aggressive at all and is something people can live with for many decades taking minimal if any medications. Further, some of the things he’s said about his polycythemia don’t really add up. Which is probably why so many people are doubting him.
People like you make a lot of sacrifices mentally to help people at their worst every day. Utmost respect for nurses and doctors like yourself. 👍 Boogie really is despicable
Lmao ok bud, no oncologist would ever refer to themselves as a “cancer doctor”. I’m only a nurse but I’ve worked with dozens of them. What do you get out of making up some story? It’s so weird
@@AustinAOkay Some start to believe their own lies if told often enough. The pathological liar types really annoy me the most, cos when you eventually realise the person they are, you then begin to question your entire existence when being around this person. And the most frustrating thing is all the wasted time spent by listening to all the nonsense.
Ya know that moment in a Pheonix Wright/Danganronpa type of game when the Guilty person on trial is on the verge of being completely expose goes absolutely berserk? Yeah that's what we're seeing with Boogie rn.
I dont know about you but if I Was in debt Had a severe illness Had to do horrible things to pay for it And someone said to me "here's $80k to give your medical info to a neutral third party to prove that you have that illness you claim you have" I would take such an offer in a second.
If you just rewatch that documentary about him it's clear he's lying about his finances too. He keeps going on about how he's broke but in the same documentary he says he casually spent $20k that year on holidays with his gf.
Don't you understand that he really had to scam people for $5000 for cancer treatment (please ignore how he refused $80,000 to show his cancer diagnosis lol)
This is on you bro. I'm pretty sure everytime we have a government shutdown the president at the time says "We'd love to not furlough our employees, but the money is at Mercy Hospital _right now_ ."
Pro clowtim- a clown who is also a professional victim, not to be confused with a pro cloutim which is a person who is a professional victim seeking clout simultaneously.
And on the other hand we have Mr. Metokur, ACTUALLY dying of cancer, but never once tried to scam his audience. All he does is collect super berries and sell hats, mugs and t-shirts.
Just the way he screams abuse at Coffeezilla is completely unhinged and psychopathic. Can you even imagine how he probably treats that poor 20 yo gf of his? He's a disgusting person.
I'm sure she in all of her insecurity lets Boogie walk all over her without much screaming or yelling. She's riding a tight a leash no doubt. Someday after Boogies croaked out years from now she'll look back on this time in her life and be completely ashamed of herself for sticking around as long as she did.
@@nathanmcdonald610Which really disgusts me. As someone who is 23 its scares me how vulnerable she has become and I hope she stands up and says fuck him and leaves.
I have a psych degree in abnormal psychology. Boogie's girlfriend Desi is a classic borderline. Sadly, individuals such as her seek out narcissists and psychopaths such as Boogie and bond to the trauma.
Like Metokur said, he gets money, a trip to Disney World, and the opportunity to make Keemstar have to apologize for doubting him, there is zero reason for him to not take it besides him not actually having cancer.
@@josho225Think his money problems are a lie as well. He said he needed the crypto scam money to pay his mortgage, it was later revealed his podcast revenue covers that. He still gets decent views on his RU-vid channel so must be making some money of it. He has thousands of dollars worth of arcade machines and collectibles. If he really was in financial trouble wouldn’t he try selling them? His whole life seems like one big scam
Medical student. Boogie gave himself away when he said they checked a hormone and he had it. Erythroproietin is a hormone and is the secondary test to check if its primary or secondary polycythemia. A biopsy would be needed to 100% confirm he doesn't have cancer but its obviously not necessary which is why he has to ask for it. My guess is he thought he had cancer at first from googling it after his visit. Announced it. Found out after from his doc it wasn't cancer but just kept rolling with it.
That's a good point but boogie is a moron and the general population is usually very uneducated even on their own conditions. So you could plausibly argue that by "hormone" he actually meant they took his blood and found a JAK2 mutation. Though personally I believe he's way more malicious than that and just lied for pity points and money.
Same thoughts here. At best, he misinterpreted his diagnosis - maybe his doctor said a form of polycethemia is a type of cancer, or he Googled polycythemia and got a result for polycethemia vera and assumed that is what he was diagnosed with - and this misinterpretation is what he had told everyone since; or at worst, he wilfully falsely misrepresented the diagnosis for his personal gain. Still, to give him the benefit of the doubt and to apply Hanlon's razor, I'd much prefer it to be the former.
Don't you think your doctor would say the word "cancer" to you, if you had it though? And if you weren't sure and just looked it up... shouldn't you run it by your doctor before playing to victim and announcing it to millions of people online? Thank you for your comment! But I do think you may be giving him a little more credit than what it warranted.
Boogie is a pathological liar and only cares about himself. Boogie likely saw vera when he looked up his diagnosis and saw it as a new shield to use against people.
Francis exists for a reason. Boogies default personality constantly overextends to people please. To balance that all out, Francis exists. We shouldn’t expect any more from boogie. He’s a living dichotomy ; the best and worst of all of us.
0:38 There is no such thing as Mercy Hospital. This is famously used in TV shows, movies, and even video games (see L4D No Mercy campaign) as it's an non-trademarked name, and has become a major trope in media over the years. It's similar to the Wilhelm scream making appearances all over the place.
The 5k won’t even pay for his meals for the month… guy needs to pay back what he owes and live within his means. If his mortgage is too much then guess what boogie… you can’t afford to live there and need to move. Can’t put your problems on everyone else and expect them to pay for your lifestyle.
@@Assimandeli Lol right. "Sir, we literally caught you in the process of committing the murder." "I didn't do it! I'm just not used to this level of scrutiny!"
I lost my mum to cancer when I was little. Was it sad? Yes. But she died beloved by everyone she knew. I can only assume but Im sure your wife had people who loved her deeply too. Boogie however, will be forever etched into history as one of the biggest sacks of crap inside and outside and will die alone and pennyless. There are some fates worse than death and this coward is living one of them. I pray he lives an extra long life.
"Have you never heard of the colloquialism, 'Yeah, that money's all gone, it's all spent, I have a specific thing I need to do with it,'"? There's another word for that: lying.
The phone call segments gives me strong "jaded customer support agent trying to help a man too angry to be helped", and simultaneously it gave me PTSD and delight.
It occurs to me that anyone could contact Mercy Hospital and offer to make a small payment toward his cancer treatment. Then, the hospital would still be protecting confidentiality when they say, “We have no patient of that name receiving such treatment.”
I remember when he went on the Co-optional podcast 100 years ago before I knew who/what he was. I was really struck by how honest and down to earth he came across for a dude who genuinely seemed to be going through such a rough time. I was thoroughly charmed and even remember thinking I would be excited whenever he came on again. I can't stop thinking about how absolutely bizarre that must sound now. Id listen but its not worth hearing TBs voice and getting emotional to clown on a loser whos already reaping what he sowed.
As the daughter of a histrionic and narcissistic man... The screaming happens when they're caught in lies and can't lie their way out. It's their way of asserting power and scaring you into stopping a conversation.
Spot on. I hate to say it but when determining the validity of statements before termination or corrective actions this is a pretty universal dead give away. The more calm and rational they are the more it has proven true. It's not a 200 percent thing but is definitely a strong indicator.
You’ve got a really large creator making thousands off accusing him of lying and not believing him because something does not 100% match up at all times. When the easiest answer is they both don’t know because they aren’t doctors and Boogie’s life is obviously imploding leading him to make dumb choices. Yet he must be lying. I’d get mad as well honestly.
Did you watch the video? The cancer diagnosis isn't what's under contention. It's that Boogie defrauded people and lied about not being about to return the money
@@mrbubbles6468 you mean, he explained why he couldn't refund on what he agreed was a scam because the money immediately went to his medical payments for his disease, and then it was confirmed it was not all used on his medical payments? there's nothing more to this, the guy's a scumbag and has a consistent past of lying about money when asking for funds to help him through tough times living claiming to be living frugally then admits to buying an 80k usd car and getting cosmetic teeth surgery during these times. he is treated well in line with his reputation, the only thing ive been sympathetic with him in the past few years for was when frank hassle knocked on his door. is it more likely that the liar continues to lie, constantly shifting goal posts, and lying to keemstar's face in the conversation, or that he didn't lie and everyone else is lying around him? use your brain.
Boogie may be a pathological liar. He’s not panicking, people like that just lie more and try to garner sympathy when they’re caught. It’s a literal pathology.
honestly if it was meant for medical bills he'd have said it was set aside or earmarked for payment. hell even saying he had a bPay queued up. (as an Aussie not sure if the USA has this but, essentially bills are loaded for a specifc payment date)
@@TGPDrunknHickI think ur right you can almost definitely set up timed payments, probably through either insurance or with the hospital itself. Boogie is just a liar caught in all of his bs right now lol
"I WON'T HAVE MORTGAGE!" Damn, Boogie. That's so sad. If only people just offered you 80,000 USD to show them a single scrap of evidence that you have cancer that you already publicly stated you have.
@@mrbubbles6468 They are all on tape saying they'd pay him. If they wouldn't (assuming he'd show proof), then that would negatively affect their reputation. Not as much as boogie lying about cancer tho but still.
_"I'll pay you back on Monday, but the money is at Mercy Hospital."_ I say that all the time, I can't believe you've never heard that colloquialism before.
Bro, I just feel so bad for the girlfriend. She must be shaking in fear when that man starts screaming his head off like that. It's either that or she's had to deal with so much of it she just doesn't react anymore. Boogie's really gonna mess her up for life.
I'm a cancer survivor, this predatory ploy by him makes me sick. I'm disabled and have trouble getting through days with pain and other issues. He is scamming money off of people.
It's the refusal of the money that did it for me. Boogie's existence on the internet for the past 5 years has been to grovel on his hands and knees for the smallest smidgen of cash, yet all he has to do for $80,000 is send a PDF. Which he doesn't have, because he faked it all. Disgusting.
@@clray123 With the amount of eyes on this by now, you think he wants to try and fake one? It's almost 100% chance he'd mess it up a bit and be exposed, again, then again at this point, wtf has he got to lose, other than some weight?
@@Ztygshere's the thing also with the amount of eyes a doctor will probably find it or someone wanting to get it authenticated and doctor goes "yea.. This is outdated/worded badly/wrong"
I have a chronic illness. I’m always willing to show my records proving I am in fact diagnosed with it the second someone claims I’m faking it (because, unfortunately, that’s where we’re at right now, thanks to TikTok fakers.) the fact that boogie refuses to prove he has CANCER!? That’s disgusting. But it’s honestly very in line with the type of beast he really is. What a piece of shit. I grew up going to work with my grandmother when she couldn’t find anyone to babysit me when I was a little girl. She worked at a hospital specifically for cancer patients. The amount of suffering I just *glimpsed* at 9, 10, 11 years old? It shattered my heart and gave me a better understanding that kindness is better than being cruel. Anyone who fakes having a disease as atrocious as cancer? They don’t deserve anything good in life.
@@shadominx3696 Exactly right. Maybe everyone is not conditioned to be this way, but I am always happy to show my records when I claim to have an chronic illness. I haven't really every faced scrutiny except when I was younger and didn't have the proof ready to go. And unfortunately, it seems like everyone has witnessed what cancer does so choosing cancer was a bold choice on Boogie's part. He should have chosen something more obscure lol.
2:09 this moment is fascinating to me... never seen such an unflappable response to such heated verbal abuse. It's usually just emotional transfer. Thx. Taking notes. 🖖
Compulsive liar for sure, man has been doing it his whole life. I still remember going over his old porn blog posts, where he talked about how much better fleshlights were than women. All I could think then was, "there's no way a guy like him would be able to make this comparison" mostly because I don't believe he ever had sex by that point.
@@Gallagher068 a lot of people are putting down that kinda money because they KNOW he doesn't have cancer. He's probably trying his hardest to get cancer now just to collect that money
Him getting angry and yelling over being called out shows he has no excuses left and knows he's been trapped. If what he was saying was true about it being set aside for future medical payments, he would have explained that calmly. If he also doesn't want to be scrutinized and accused of lying so much, he should stop lying and scamming people.
Would he have explained it calmly though? After being dogpiled by everybody? He tried to at the start. He got progressively angerier when he wasn’t believed, which I don’t blame him for if he’s telling the truth.
If he really does have cancer the way he has handled all of this is horrible. It's like he's done everything to make himself look guilty and he has no reason to be so defensive about his privacy (The main reason he refuses to show his medical records to anyone to prove it) and hasn't been in the past. If he truly was a victim and needs the money he could own everyone dogpiling him on that stream and take home $75k to pay medical bills but he didn't because of 'privacy'. Watch the full lolcow stream and its so obvious hes lying
The good news is this story has a happy ending, Boogie was fake fired from the show, which he didn’t actually leave for one day, threw a tantrum, and was ‘rewarded’ by being allowed to back to the show he never left in the first place, for receiving a tattoo that he actually wanted to get because he found it funny.
"I couldn't refuse 10K to scam people! I need the money for treatment." "Okay then show us proof of this ailment and we'll pay you 80K" "Nah I'm good" HUH??!!
@@MAX-de8feif u choose ur pride over treatment to save/better your life, then I cannot, in the right mind, see why anyone should care about whatever it is you're going through. There is no shame in something as serious as cancer, but there is much shame in using it as an excuse to be a bad person, wouldnt you agree?
@@TeaRexYou are assuming they’d believe the reciept and not demand more proof immediately. Which of course they would. It’s really rather simple. All of your medical info forever public and the doctors that ypu go to harrased until you aren’t worth trying to help meaning you might actually find it hard to use the 80k even if you hot it. Is it worth it?
It's the face any parent trying to deal with a child throwing a temper tantrum makes. "They'll tire themselves out eventually, until then I'll deal with the migraine" The fact Boogie is theoretically a 30+ year old man just makes it sadder
you're a saint for doing these interviews, I swear to go. I don't even know why Boogie takes your phone calls since he doesn't say anything constructive but it sure is entertaining listening to him meltdown like this.
it's called uncontrolled anger/rage and it's definitely associated with being a sociopath. not everyone who rages is a sociopath, but if you're doing it while intentionally lying and manipulating people and use people to make money from while breaking several laws and showing no signs of remorse...yeah that's pretty clear what he is
@@CreamerMusic Nah. It's way more pathetic than that. It's not actual rage. He's being caught in a lie and the only thing he could come up with is to double down on it very emotionally to give himself an air of credibility. It's fake anger, just like his fake illness.
the funniest trend among these people (Boogie, Logan Paul etc) is how they will talk up Coffeezilla as a man of integrity, and then completely flip and insult him when he covers their exploits in his videos
I mean.. I understand but like a simple statement over some pretty obvious wacky things going on isn’t too hard to post. Unless he’s legally not allowed to post anything.
"It's already spent, I can't give it back now!" "I can't give it back, I need to spend it eventually!" "It's already spent, I can't give it back now!" "Gone doesn't mean gone! Google colloquialism!" I have no pity left for him.
@@ChaoticMartianhonestly the only pity I had for him was the cancer, however when he was using it to guilt trip that 20 year old girl and is now faking it I hope the nothing but the worse for him.
I will never understand the mind of people who call in to coffeezill begging to not be talked about lol. like..... he straight up just gives more evidence of him doing wrong.....
My older sister is currently losing her battle with cancer. The fact that he would lie about this is DISGUSTING. Cancer destroys families, rips parents away from their children ... it's an invisible monster. I don't understand how someone could stoop so, so low.
Megalomaniacal narcissists will say or do absolutely ANYTHING to keep up whatever it is that makes them feel or seem important. There is no cure for THAT type of cancer, to be certain.
I’ve used it to describe my paycheck being spent before I get my paycheck, but I would also be able to back up why that money is gone before I get my check. I’d be able to show what bills and for how much.
the Coffeezilla effect never fails to blow my mind. Before Coffeezilla: "hey coffee, love your work, your intergreity speaks bounds and I think it's extremely righteous how candid and upfront you are about everything you do." After Coffeezilla: "man, fuck coffeezilla. He's a liar and a fraud, and he edited everything I said to make me look bad." Every. Single. Time.
Honestly argues like a little kid who's trying to convince his mom he didn't steal the cookie from the cookie jar, she he's got crumbs all over his mouth.
Props to you for keeping your cool throughout all those calls. Having someone literally screeching at you for asking questions and stating that accountability needs to be made is unreal. Scammers, liars, and human filth always act the same when they get called out. Keep up the good work. I appreciate you routinely bringing things to light and having the research to back it up. To quote Swoop here: “it’s not drama, it’s dangerous.”
Why the fuck does Boogie sheepishly allow Keemstar to make him grovel on his knees and throw icecubes at him at his 4th of July party yet screams in incoherent rage at Coffeezilla?
Because he can't pretend like he's just doing a bit. He committed fraud. That's the thing about narcissists: When all else fails, they'll hide behind self-depreciation. And if you push them past that, they'll explode because nobody is allowed to criticize them except them.
Boogie sees keemstar as a path to success and a way to get attention (specifically pity). Coffee is catching him in a lie with no way for him to wriggle is way out. When a narcissist is cornered and/or exposed they go into overdrive mode and get aggressive. Nothing is more terrifying or angering to a narcissist than being held accountable and been shown they're the wrong doers.
