Connecting the North and South by Rail - Episode 5 - M&SWJR

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Its the 22nd December and on this trip we tackle Every Disused Station on the former Midlands and South Western Junction Railway. Set to be the countries main link for North to South Freight its story is like many other whose ambition never quite matched required cash flow!
Welcome to Episode 5 of #EveryDisusedStation. You can visit the website for progress and information about our adventure. www.paulwhitewick.co.uk
Paul and Rebecca have decided to embark upon and rather silly challenge which will hopefully see them visit all 6800 (approx. figure) disused stations in the UK. As always the criteria being that we get as close as possible without a) Trespassing and b) endangering ourselves or others. Stations do include those that are in use as heritage lines. (of course they are no longer disused but in the sense of a mainline passenger station, they are certainly on our list).
Attributes and notable links:
www.swindonsotherrailway.co.uk - A massive source of information on the M&SWJR.
somethingvloggy.uk/ - No better guide to vloggy in Wales with a significant chunk of History thrown in.
Paddington Pic: By Geof Sheppard - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
All music via subscription on Epidemicsound.com

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@benters3509 3 года назад

Hi. I enjoyed the video, as I do most of your videos. Regarding your rant! In my humble opinion, the real villain of the piece was not Beeching, it was Ernest Marples - the Minister of Transport. Described at the time as a "Flash Construction Tycoon". He had a vested interest in the road building program, and was involved in the large construction company Marples Ridgeway, that were employed in building motorways. When he became a junior minister, this came out, and he was required to sell his shares in the company. He sold them to his wife. Anyway, I think Beeching was just doing his bidding. But it was Beeching that has carried the can and taken the blame.

@nigelbunney711 4 года назад

I also agree with your rant. We so often hear about officials looking at re-opening this route, that route or some other route but all we get is a few hundred thousand spent on fictitious surveys to tell us it's not required. The trouble is the stigma, the railways were appallingly run, every station (well most) had a Station Master, early shift and late shift Porters, early and late shift Ticket Clerks, normally a signal box with round the clock duty Signalers, some even Shunters and Goods Staff. With technology these days, the Rail Network could be second to none and run really efficiently. There, that's my rant over with... PS Love your films...

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

A welcome rant Nigel. 👍

@bobingram6912 4 года назад

Love it when you go off on one as it's what a majority of rail enthusiasts/historians are thinking.

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Oh I can waffle like anyone!

@mr606neil 4 года назад

Spent time at RAF South Cerney aircrew training back in 1953. The M&SWJR was very active then! Bob Neil Sunshine Coast Australia

@michaelpilling9659 4 года назад

Wonderful film. Wonderful "rant". Thank you

@christopherbraiden6713 4 года назад

Thanks another great insight into forgotten railways. Keep safe and healthy!!😎💙

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Thanks, you too!

@chrismccartney8668 3 года назад

My late father when being trained in 1944 ? Was at a withington or wthingham he said somewhere in cotswolds with a sleepy railway station...

@pwhitewick 3 года назад

Well this is certainly a contender.

@anthonybreakspear-jones5443 5 лет назад

My late father-in-law Les Breakspear was working in Rushy Platt signal box in the 1960s controlling rail traffic sadly he passed away in December 2018 aged 93 Thanks for showing the old line Tony Breakspear-Jones

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Thanks for taking the time to comment Tony. Always nice when people can share a personal story like this. My favourite line, and thankfully Rushy Platt earthworks still remain today.

@jezm1703 3 года назад

Here's my....two pennies worth...!...great video. Thanks.

@ldb281 5 лет назад

thankyou for this. How you remember all that historic railway knowledge is amazing.

@paulking9734 3 года назад

I have just come across this amazing video. MY recollections of the line date from just before closure seeing a train just going into the cutting towards Chiseldon Station from Marlborough, which I also walked up from Chiseldon station after the tracks had gone. Also spent time at Swindon station after closure, even had a ride on a tank engine footplate (nice locoman) the length of platform 2 when it was hauling a few coal trucks. I also walked from Swindon town to Rushey Platt after tracks had gone but when the bridge over the GWR was still there. Also walked along the tracks at Marlbrough just before rusted tracks removed..very desolate. Perhaps most disturbing memory was going on holiday to Bournemouth and seeing the line there between Chiseldon and Marlborough and when we came back a few weeks later it had gone..just rust marks on the ballast and all the signals vanished...hence my interest in disused railways ever since. Seeing how vegetation (and man) has taken over is fascinating.

@stephendavies6949 2 года назад

You're doing a great job. Keep up the good work!

@luath5579 3 года назад

Another interesting video! One of my great grandfather's brothers, Alexander Bowd, spent his working life on the M&SWJR, being something at Ogbourne St George, and then successively a stationmaster at South Cerney, Chedworth, Cirencester (twice), Swindon and Marlborough (twice).

@leightonsquibbs970 5 лет назад

Loved the bridge at South Cerney.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

A few remain at this section, plus I'm sure this is similar in design to one or two others I've seen locally.

@HenrysAdventures 5 лет назад

Another great video! I agree with what you're saying about travelling between Andover and Swindon. I can think of many other examples in the same situation.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Thanks Henry. Yes indeed. That's the tip of the iceberg.

@75elgrebo 5 лет назад

Very similar design of bridges to that at Clatford indeed!

@leightonsquibbs970 5 лет назад

Again loved the trip. Filming looks very professional, as in walking toward and away from the camera. Hope little person better now.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Thanks Leighton, much appreciated. They bounce back quickly!

@davebinsweden 3 года назад

Just love watching Rebecca's expressions while John is explaining. Rebecca deserves her own fan club,!

@davebinsweden 3 года назад

John??? No it was Paul ... Definitely

@RichardFelstead1949 5 лет назад

Another great video Rebecca & Paul. Happy New Year to You and Family and happy birthday Paul.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Thank you Richard. Happy New year to you and your family too. 👍👍

@saltleywsc 5 лет назад

If ever you two are in S Wales you would be more than welcome to call in for a cuppa ! cracking videos !

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Cheers Salteywsc. Much appreciated.

@JH4181 5 лет назад

Great vids really interesting,the small town were im from had two stations,one of them was on the west coast main line ,alls thats left of it is the goods shed and the spacing in the tracks were the platform once was.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Thank you. We just filmed a few on the west coast mainline so you might see one or two on tomorrows video. 👍

@robtyman4281 4 года назад

Another fascinating route and alot of knowledge on your part! ....funny to see bits of old track still piled up in places aswell. It's obvious to us now that Foss Cross should have closed when Chedworth station opened! ....inconceivable how there was ever a station there (Foss Cross) given that it served so few people! Keep up the good work...

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Cheers Rob. Yup, which sadly highlighted the demise of the railway. Too much infrastructure and reliance on a person at every marker. Scale back, not chop the legs.

@highpath4776 4 года назад

The track is not from the disused railway as such, it will be part of the re-building of the line north from Hayes Knoll towards Cricklade where a new station is planned I think a little south of the original station. To the South of Blunsden the line has also been re-opened , again that will run on a new alignment as funds and volunteers permit into one of the Swindon country parks.

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

@@highpath4776 check out our video on the Heritage centre from Cricklade which explains all. 👍

@davidelrick3131 2 года назад

Hi Paul and Rebecca enjoy your videos currently reading a book lost railways of North & east Yorkshire

@aviewfromtheinterior 4 года назад

Enjoyed the rant Paul. 👍

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Nothing like a good rant 😬

@Nick-ye5kk 3 года назад

Rebecca seemed fascinated, discussing gradients.

@dortkommendieclowns1474 5 лет назад

Thanks to Martin Zero I'm hooked to your channel. I love it! 👌🏼

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Pleasure to have you on board. Glad you are enjoying. 👍

@dortkommendieclowns1474 5 лет назад

I can't wait to visit the UK again this summer. Greets from the Netherlands 🇳🇱

@donsharpe5786 5 лет назад

You say you arrive at your local station. In Launceston, we can travel a mile down the line 1 mile on a narrow gauge railway during tourist season. We cannot get anywhere because we are totally disconnected from the rail network. Probably the nearest station is Gunnislake or Bodmin Parkway. The former we can get to Plymouth the latter the only way it would be of benefit would be to go down Cornwall because it would take approximately 1 1/2 to 2 hours to reach Exeter which is 50 minutes by car. Okehampton is closer but not on the main line network. We have lots of closed stations round here.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Yup, so many lost lines, and whilst we agree they were not all built with the public in mind, there is much to be said for notion that a developed society isn't one where the poor find it cheaper to buy a car than travel by train.

@hairyairey 4 года назад

@@pwhitewick Beeching closed many of the lines in the Southwest, one of the claims was that it would be too expensive to store trains over the winter.

@robtyman4281 4 года назад

Paul, just visited your website as I was interested to see what you're planning on doing next. Saw that you were planning on doing the sleeper train to Fort William. Though I've not done this route myself (on my bucket list!) I recommend you watch Paul Lucas on his 'Wingin it Paul Lucas' channel on here. He does the route the other way round, but it's very informative - not just on route history but also on what to expect on the train itself. Oh, and he says do this route in summer, otherwise it'll be dark for the whole route (if done in Autumn/Winter). It's VERY detailed, but still pretty good and tells anyone planning this route everything they need to know about it.

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Cheers Rob. I'll check that out shortly.

@IanandJo 5 лет назад

Three things: Firstly; HOUSE BUNNY!!!!!!!!! Secondly; We understand your pain of the poop on the shoe! Thirdly; That was us!!!!!! That was lovely and really weird to see us in someone else's film. Oh yes, and as an afterthought, nice film and we approve of that bridge. 'Twas a very good bridge.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

We have a large shed with 21 others in... He will soon be joining them 😲. Or so I am told. I was trying to think of something entertaining to represent Wales.... You guys obviously doing to mind. 👍

@IanandJo 5 лет назад

@@pwhitewick Excellent. Glad that we come to mind. A shed full of rabbits. I believe 'a shed full' is the term for an abundance of rabbits. Jo thinks it should be an 'Awwww'. - Ian

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

@@IanandJo what's that... Jo would like a couple!?... No problem we will bring them across when we visit 😜😜

@IanandJo 5 лет назад

@@pwhitewick No, no. We have done our share of rabbit keeping thank you. Besides we wouldn't be able to look after them properly as we are gadding about the countryside looking at castles all the time. It wouldn't be fair on them. Thanks anyway. - Ian

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

@@IanandJo excellent, we will bring a couple with us. *Hands over ears singing.

@abandonedanddisuseduk8210 4 года назад

If you go down to the timber area down at whithington station there is the platform still remaining.

@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS 5 лет назад

well done.

@greatbritishentertainmentl5636 4 года назад

That line I understand was used to move soldiers and artillery in WW2 from the Midlands/Cheltenham area down to Southampton & Portsmouth via Andover's army camps. Perhaps the village stations were added as an afterthought so are not necessarily located in the best places?

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

A crying shame this line still isn't in existence. Yup both this and the southern section south of Andover (Andover to Redbridge Line) were used a lot in both wars.

@bobly 2 года назад

Collingbourne Kingston Halt opened in 1932 and closed in 1961

@alanbrookes8716 4 года назад

The Midland & South Western, like the Somerset & Dorset, was built to connect the Midland Railway with the London & South Western as a through route from the Midlands to the South. It should never have been included in the Great Western, its biggest rival, at the grouping. Once included, its fate was sealed.

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Absolutely Alan. No suprise that this was yet another non-London aligned route that didn't survive.

@theovanstaden5766 5 лет назад

Great video Rebecca & Paul, hi from south africa, have subsribed to Yours YT!

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Thank you Theo. Pleasure to have you on board!

@djc8541 5 лет назад

Your rant 100% right yet they still want to spend billions on HS2 when the money should be spent reopening some of these routes

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

The economics of HS2 are very interesting indeed. I intend to educate myself somewhat before delving into the subject matter!..... But hell yeah.... Should have kept these lines in situ..... Because you never know!

@hairyairey 4 года назад

@@pwhitewick HS2 will free up capacity on other lines though and that actually makes reopening other lines possible.

@MrBook123456 3 года назад

good video

@bobly 2 года назад

Swindon Town (Not the football club) opened in 1881 and closed in 1972

@anthonybreakspear-jones5443 4 года назад

Hi just watched this again as was very late when I watched it before so missed the photo of rushy platt signal box , I think that the tall man could be my late father in law stood in the box but not sure TBJ

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Ah that's brilliant.

@bobly 2 года назад

Marlborough High opened in 1864 and closed in 1964 and Marlborough Low opened in 1881 and closed in 1964

@bobly 2 года назад

Chedworth Halt opened in 1891 and closed in 1961

@bobly 2 года назад

Savernake High level opened in 1898 and closed in 1958

@bobly 2 года назад

Grafton and Burbage opened in 1882 and closed in 1961

@bobly 2 года назад

Savernake Low level opened in 1883 and closed in 1961

@robinoconnor1203 4 года назад

The MSWJ&R is about a mile from my home, we have walked and cycled most of it, including walking through the Marlborough tunnel, the section south of Andover is nice albeit not easy to follow, is your chap John a mature chap that works or worked for Mitsubishi in Cirencester? if so I used to work with him, if not there is a chap called John that has an amazing knowledge of the line, there is a very small section of embankment in Cirencester and two bridge supports, not sure if you found it.

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

John is Bearcroft if that helps?

@neilyoung3652 5 лет назад

Quite alot still remaining of the infrastruture all returned to nature, except the stations which have mostly gone by look of it marlborough tunnel entrance look quite worse for wear

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

I do gear for the Marlborough tunnel. I think the only reason it's not been used for the local development is because of the bats.

@Sim0nTrains 5 лет назад

Great video, also when you said you doing to every disused station... does that mean you will be visiting Titfiled :p (Sorry couldn't resist that one) but it was really a great video

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Evvvvvery Disused Station 😂

@bobly 2 года назад

Rushey Platt opened in 1883 and closed in 1905

@bobly 2 года назад

South Cerney opened in 1883 and closed in 1963

@gussmedways 5 лет назад

I love your "rant". Beeching is seen as the enemy of the railway but, the decline of the railways was well in advance before he came along.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Cheers Russ. Yup have a look at our video "did beeching have the biggest axe".

@bobly 2 года назад

Charlton Kings opened in 1881 and closed in 1962

@Roblilley999 5 лет назад

Again (yes, it's me).... another great video, nice to see you walking the lesser travelled parts of the country.... on your highly detailed map, I dont understand the blob, central bottom (sounds painful)

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

...what took you so long!?

@Roblilley999 5 лет назад

@@pwhitewick you nearly came out all singing... as for tuppence, thought that had more of a gynacological meaning

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

@@Roblilley999 ....... I've no plans on coming out.

@Roblilley999 5 лет назад

@@pwhitewick not even in a diana Ross wig? Maybe that's more Rebecca's party trick

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

@@Roblilley999 ...... You'll have to wait for something like our version of "I don't even know what we are doing" for that. 😲

@bobly 2 года назад

Leckhampton opened in 1881 and closed in 1962

@sailing_raptor 5 лет назад

Good rant, valid point. We have the Great Central track bed within half a mile of us. Twenty years ago it would have been simplicity itself to reinstate the line, which at one point there was a proposal put forward, so to do. It didn't happen and the NIMBYs crawled out of the woodwork to protest. A lot of people hereabouts live in Leicester and had the track been reinstated and had it been approved for passenger traffic, it would have reduced a mind boggling twenty mile/one hour drive to minutes and insodoing, reduced road and motorway traffic, reduced noise, reduced atmospheric pollution etc. I'm now convinced we are a country of halfwits, who are governed by those of even lower IQs.

@ldb281 5 лет назад

maybe one day.........look at ruddington and loughborough

@pugthesecond 5 лет назад

Two penneth actually Paul and Rebecca.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

.....damn. (But thank you).

@bobly 2 года назад

Withington opened in 1891 and closed in 1961

@bobly 2 года назад

Ludgershall opened in 1882 and closed in 1961

@bobly 2 года назад

Foss Cross opened in 1891 and closed in 1961

@bobly 2 года назад

Cricklade opened in 1883 and closed in 1963

@2H80vids 4 года назад

Interestingly, looking at the maps, Foss Cross was quite a sizeable station, especially compared to Chedworth. There was a decent-sized engine shed at the south end and the line was double-tracked for half the way to Chedworth, which was, very much, just a halt although, it was staffed until 1954. You seem to have plenty literature on the route but, just wondering if you've seen this page, featuring the work of one of my favourite railway photographers, Hugh Casserley: www.swindonsotherrailway.co.uk/rmc.html Some decent shots of both stations. Cheers for now, Dougie. Edit: As you mention the website later in the video, I guess you have, of course, seen it. Duuh !!😬

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Cheers Duggie. Yup we love this line and pretty much live at one end of it. Foss Cross dealt with a little agriculture and a late night crossing of trains I understand. Yup agreed it did look like a sizeable affair.

@bobly 2 года назад

Blunsdon opened in 1895 and closed in 1937

@bobly 2 года назад

Chiseldon opened in 1881 and closed in 1961

@ItsMe-io5bl 4 года назад

Think the saying is "twopeneth". Tis up int north anyway.

@bobly 2 года назад

Collingbourne opened 1882 and closed in 1961

@bobly 2 года назад

Andoversford opened in 1881 and closed in 1962

@bobly 2 года назад

Weyhill opened in 1882 and closed in 1961

@jezm1703 3 года назад

....or more usually....two penny worth..!...🙂

@steveh31 2 года назад

Can I ask a big favour in future disused episodes can you make the bit where you are doing your Harry Hill impression pointing at the site of the disused station a bit longer than one second it's really anyone trying to rewind and pause RU-vid tv to see what the site looks like. Thanks

@Swindondruid2 4 года назад

Where in Swindon is the Swindon Town station located please?

@pwhitewick 4 года назад

Signal Way in Old Town.

@donsharpe5786 5 лет назад

How do the children feel about being dragged along to all these stations? Enthusiastic to start with!

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

They are indifferent. Although slightly more enthusiastic as our subscriber rate is increasing! Thickle huh!

@theovanstaden5766 5 лет назад

always sad to see a disused railway!

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

Unfortunately we have plenty!

@ldb281 5 лет назад

are you planning a Lincoln trip soon?....its all fast disappearing as I speak.

@pwhitewick 5 лет назад

We've set up a page on the website which details our immediate plans, if you think there is a worthy visit that should be on our short term plans drop us an email.