Thats fine, when the rights are actually equal. I think the information that has come out of the Inquiry into abuse of children in state and faith based "care" should be read by everyone who thinks equal rights exist in this country for Maori. What has been allowed to happen to children, primarily Maori, in this country is horrific. In my like uh opinion... this country is racists as (what Taika said)
Another example of misleading journalism by RNZ - the title to this posting is blatantly wrong. David Seymour clearly views the Treaty as a relevant consideration for Pharmac, he merely provides the context for when he believes it to be so. RNZ is an appalling public agency. I was a loyal listener from age 15, to about 50. I'm now 58 and cannot bear to listen to its now biased (left leaning), ill informed coverage. Shame on you RNZ for betraying your independent mandate.
05:15. Yes Te Tiriti is to be honoured and abided by. It is very disappointing to hear a Minister of Crown trying not to do so. It obviously has valid input into the decisions Pharmac makes on behalf if all the different groups in New Zealand ensuring that they do. We are a diverse bunch not some fantasy of a mono culture. Imo. Laurie
Sadly people from all walks of life are finding the same thing. Our health system is collapsing. I'm pleased you could find a way to fund your life saving operation, many people in NZ just die.
unbelievable why would seymour tell phamac that the tiriti o waitangi is inappropriate is he trying to gain recognition from foreign corporates to intervene?
He is trying to set a presetance, if he get away with moving it out of this sector it will be gone from every sector. The why he's calling it a little foot note. There is nothing little about that foot. Then he's politely speaking Maori and being really cute and fluffy. He's implied Maori hold back desperate people from being saved. Sneaky. Luxton said they would not tinker with treaty. Luxtons to busy talking to Joe Biden offering up money and soldiers to Ukraine. None of us even know where that is. This dude is a little Weasle
A comedian and a politician - maybe Seymore could learn to deliver the information without trying so hard to be loved by the public, the irony is that the harder he tries, the worse he comes across.
same the likes of maori love our country maori wouldn’t destroy our own country little lone the people who reside here already is not within our nature
treaty is here to stay now and for ever you can't re write history that your forefathers wrote unfortunately david lol Oh you think you can oh sorry my bad lol
He truly not the man to make changes.. obviously he likes to pick on the treaty.. good.point he puts through but he is going to be hated and anyone who. follows him.. theres a pattern..in his fight for change..
Interesting that people think Te Tiriti shouldn't be a part of government policy. Maybe we should have given it a fancier name... like Magna Carta, or a Declaration of Independence (oh hang on...) or maybe the Constitutional Bill of Rights? It's this country's founding document between the people that were here and the new people arriving in the country. If this country had the same kind of agreement with every new member of our society as they arrived in the country, we'd be a heck of a lot better off. Its actually an extremely forward looking document, in a very succinct format. I think its amazing. I think the issue with many people is the uncomfortable realisation that the Treaty was written specifically to protect the rights of the people that were already here... if you want to call them indigenous feel free... or not.
Article 2: ki nga tangata katoa o Nu Tirani te tino rangatiratanga o o ratou whenua o ratou kainga me o ratou taonga katoa The New Zealand Government will honour all New Zealanders in the chieftainship of their land and all their property Article 3: a ratou nga tikanga katoa rite tahi All New Zealanders are equal under the law with the same rights and duties
@@CITA7687 ki nga tangata katoa o Nu Tirani literally translates all people of New Zealand. Nu Tirani is the old transliteration of New Zealand. Doesnt specify or divide by race like the minority maori party (TPM) want you to believe. I whakapapa maori and believe in equal rights for NZ citizens regardless of your skin colour and we all have equal responsibility under the law as mentioned in article 3.
@@SayHiIzzy who were the parties in Te Tiriti? "Ko Wikitoria te Kuini o Ingarani i tana mahara atawai ki nga Rangatira me nga Hapu o Nu Tirani". What was the context of "ki nga tangata katoa o Nu Tirani"? Ko te Kuini o Ingarani ka wakarite ka wakaae ki nga Rangatira ki nga hapu (to the Chiefs, to the hapu) - ki nga tangata katoa o Nu Tirani te tino rangatiratanga o o ratou wenua o ratou kainga me o ratou taonga katoa. Interesting that you've only quoted part of the sentence as in its entirety, the sentence is talking about the chiefs and "hapu" that were living in NZ in 1840. Throughout Te Tiriti the parties of Te Tiriti are identified- Wikitoria and the Rangatira and hapu of the wenua (land). In the preamble the parties were identified as rangatira Maori, also nga Rangatira o te wakaminenga (the confederation of chiefs who put together He Whakaputenga - aka the Declaration of Independence 1835). Article 1 starts of by speaking of the chiefs of te wakaminenga me nga rangatira katoa hoki... ( the chiefs of the united tribes and all chiefs) Article 2 identifies Wikitoria and the chiefs of te wakaminenga and all the chiefs of NZ. Article 3 is clear- "ka tiakina e te Kuini o Ingarani nga tangata Maori katoa o Nu Tireni" The Queen of England and the Maori people of NZ. Maori are guaranteed the rights and privileges of British subjects. I also believe in equal rights. I believe in integrity in politics and I believe in honesty. Te Tiriti was an agreement between the people that were already in Aotearoa in 1840, identified as the chiefs and the hapu, and Wikitoria. If you choose to ignore the clear identification of the Treaty partners in Article 3 (Te Kuini o Ingarani and tangata Maori) I think you're being really disingenuous and deliberately misinterpreting Te Tiriti to suit your own personal agenda... as is David Seymour.
Not sure if David is the best person to talk about the appropriate use of The Treaty. With the narrative he is trying force, trying to make a debate about sovereignty sound like discussion about race.
We have a treaty with a race of self entitled people who are not "Indigenous" to New Zealand. They have enough taxpayers handouts to fund their own treatment.
@LWJCarroll You can believe what you like. Maori will view it differently. You were told not to tinker with the treaty .What do you think this is? They say one thing and do another. No korero just do it. Sneaky slight of hand . Making out Maori are holding back your medicine. If you believe that you are an utter fool.
@@tracymichaelsen493 you just cool off as I do not think this at all. So not an utter fool. I disagree with the anti Te Tiriti rhetoric pushing that BS. Fyi.
And you seyman you saying about me i had in accident at my family if you're know about me you want say that But you have no idia who im Or any thing about me about me 😮 even the police they cant find me or they cant find my name
