Our heroes battle to determine which console had the better Adventures of Batman and Robin game. Super Nintendo or Sega Genesis? Facebook: / consolewars Twitter: / consolewarsguys
@GodZpeed X7 Ya shutup nintendo boy. SNES version looks boring as hell. Check out how slow batman runs. You could have used that blast processing there.
I agree with what Dan said. I mean, I know that most people want to play as Batman over Robin, but if Batman is the only playable character, then why call the game Batman & Robin? Things like that just kinda bug me.
because that's what the show was called at the time...Konami was trying to sell copies based on the name recognition, I mean it's usually one of those oversights that dev don't think about when they are making the game, hell maybe it was originally MEANT to be "the Adventures of Batman" the video game until they were told to match the name with the show's run
The introduction song for Batman and Robin on the Sega Genesis is over nine minutes long. That's some serious dedication and the quality is more than worthy of the cartridge space. With the right composers, the Sega Genesis was capable of incredible electronic music that the SNES couldn't quite compare to as far as it's grittiness and heavy bass.
@@miamimagicians Oh, I didn't mean to suggest that I outright think the Genesis pumps out better music. The SNES obviously has samples for instruments. But the Genesis in my opinion beats it for electronic and heavy bass. Because it's raw, no samples. Generally though, nothing can quite touch the ost of games like Chrono Trigger and how it sounds out of the SNES.
@@ThePerfectTrip well, they both had a really good sound for example, sonic the hedgehog two is probably the greatest platformer ever made. Either that or Mario three
@@ThePerfectTripboth had themes that fit the game, neither was better, it comes down to preference. I prefer the snes music because it sounds like the show
Interesting enough, the Super Nintendo Version was supposed to be called, "Batman: The Animated Series." However, the show was about to go into its second or third season and the title changed to "The Adventures of Batman and Robin." Because the show's title changed, the SNES game title had to change too. In terms of which is the better game representing the show, I would pick the SNES. However, I do have to admit, the SEGA version had a rocking soundtrack, especially the boss level for Mad Hatter.
Guys, I think you should start incorporating "Draws" into your videos. For example, during the Graphics part of this, I think the Genesis version having cool scaling and rotating effects to look like 3D is great, while sprites and such are more detailed in the SNES version should give them a Draw since they both have something good and unique towards them.
true, with much more character on screen, en 3D effect, the graphic part should be draw. Same thing for the gameplay. the Sega game don't just have Robin, it's have Robin and Batman in same time, 2 players mode is a big bonus for the gameplay
I think graphics should be evaluated as a whole (as they did). Sure the sprites with pseudo 3D effects look cool, but the main characters look tinny and goofy and the backgrounds are lame and less detailed. The shooter stages have no detail at all (just a flat background) an that "mushroom" stage looks like could've been done in a old NES. The Snes version is graphically more consistent, detailed and matches the source material (it really looks like the cartoon).
When i was a kid i remember me and my brother play the sega batman and robin all the weekend always trying to finish and we can only finish 1 time, it was a hard game, and we was experts at the end, bring me good memories :')
@@crispyjuice2110 Yeah right. How obsessed would you have to be to get carpel tunnel syndrome from a 16 bit game. And if that happens to you, you just stop. No one's holding a gun to your head.
I have terrible memories of dying over and over on the first level... I played the Genesis version back in the day, but I never even tried the SNES version.
Wow a comment to a 3 year old comment I made lol. Yeah I remember dying a LOT in the first level as a kid. I think I only ever went as far as Mad Hatter's boss level before I gave up because Mr. Freeze's level is STUPIDLY hard. I sadly don't know much about the SNES version of the game as I never owned a SNES, but I know that it's VERY different from the Genesis version.
+Vincent GR Sega fans are the most vocal because they know they are the underdogs. You have to explain what about the game is actually more "technologically advanced." Is it the action that could be done on NES Conta? The fancy Mode 7 / Battletoads Turbo Tunnel type effects? In this case, the SNES has superior animation. By the way you'll find much better shading than Genesis in a box of crayons. Genesis' only advantage is CPU, which often isn't relevant unless its truly fully utilized. SNES games with chips run faster than Genesis too, erasing any last advantage.
Baigandine L I am not a sega fan as you can see from my avatar. Between the two consoles though I would choose sega cause I prefer sega games. They have arcade feeling. As for the cpu, yes nintendo should put their hands deeper and not use that cheap cpu. This is sad cause their chipset is better. Another issue with snes is the lower resolution of 256 pixels. Some games looks zoomed. It is a matter of taste. That's all, friendly speaking :-)
I would have given the Graphics point to the SEGA. While there is more variety to the Super Nintendo version and it beautifully captures the look of the show, the SEGA version is just so damn impressive.
Yep. Probably agree with them on the overall winner (gameplay wins) but graphics? Pfffft. Sega's game makes the Snes graphics look extremely pedestrian.
I have both versions of the game, but I’m probably in the minority here when I say that I like the snes version better. It looks just like the show and like Greg says feels more like Batman and is more simple, but can be challenging. I do like the sega version also. It has good graphics and a great soundtrack, but the problem is that it’s way too hard.
LoL, Dan used an XBOX controller and said it was ps3. i love when you guys do that. Sometimes, Greg has the SNES controller still coiled up. Makes the episodes better
I was half-expecting Dan to cut off Greg when he was announcing the winner with a copy of the SEGA CD version, cut to dan frantically trying to set up the SEGA CD while greg is screaming, "NO STAHP THAT'S CHEATING" while the video cuts off.
I'd say both are necessities for SNES and Genesis collections. The SNES version is like playing the cartoon, while the Genesis feels more like a B:TAS/Batman Beyond mash-up. You guys should compare Spider-Man & Venom: Maximum Carnage sometime!
Yeah but Batman Retuns is just all show and no substance.. it has flashy&Gaudy visuals but its characters aren't as well written and the story is just "meh" or "Wtf". The first batman movie is OKAY dated yes but its still watchable and has a much more coherent plot&characters than Returns.
***** The first one made more sense? The Joker throwing a parade in the middle of Gotham, and no cops are around, even though he's a wanted mass murderer? Batman unloads all the Bat-wing's weapons at him and misses? The Joker is able to shoot down the Bat-wing with one shot from a revolver? It makes no sense at all.
They are both absolutely fucking awesome games. Classics. That soundtrack for Genesis is one of the best ever. I listen to it without playing the game.
The two games are like a staples of their respective systems. The Nintendo version is slower, more polished and sophisticated, just like the console itself, while the SEGA version is brute, mindless, faster and frantic - synthesizing essence of the Genesis. About your video: I think, that in terms of visuals, the Sega game puts Nintendo in his little pocket. This game looks freaking amazing and does everything and more of what most Nintendo fanboys claim to be impossible on the Genesis. And while the SNES version can easely be ported on the Genesis, without sacrificing much; the oposite would be next to impossible without the help of Super FX or similiar chip. Also, in your unbiased comparison of the gameplay, you forget to mention that the SEGA version is CO-OP..which is kind of a big deal.
Yeah, I think the CO-OP point is really important because I had a blast playing the game with my brother as a kid. Especially considering the title, I wish CO-OP would have been discussed more in the review. I also agree with your comment on the graphics. The video does not seem to fully appreciate how novel and beautiful the 3D effects were for the time. Yes, the sprites and backgrounds look way better on the SNES. However, those gorgeous sprites and backgrounds weren't nearly as groundbreaking as the effects in the SEGA version were. Plus, the smaller sprites allowed the Genesis version to fit more chaos on the screen.
If you have the reflexes of Sonic the hedgehog and the patience of an ancient sage then yes, then Genesis version might be some what challenging, but heck that's why there are codes for skipping/selecting levels lol! Overall gameplay though I like the genesis version way more because its so fast and intense, offers 2 players, and has amazing music. also the final boss battle is amazing while the SNES one is just the joker on a jetpack flying around annoying Mr. Bat lol!
Are you trolling? Ive been playing video games since i was 3 years old not even joking, im currently 27. Ive beaten endless amount of games probably 1000 like no joke on every single console. Let me tell you that this game on the genesis version i tried and tried and tried, Guess what i failed... I just couldnt beat this game, i got very far but i couldnt beat it. I can say without fear that The Adventures of Batman and Robin on Genesis is near impossible without cheats or codes.
KAILOONE It is challenging I admit, but other than that I didn't encounter a single moment in the game where I got furious and/or rage quit because of ludicrous difficulty. I'm not gonna lie, the final boss (Mr. Freeze) is hard at first, but after figuring out his pattern of attack, it's pretty simple. Also, I've beaten the game WITHOUT CHEATS OR CODES and the ending is somewhat of a let down compared to the SNES version
Wow love the videos but I would never take SNES version over the Sega. That Sega Batman is a beast did I hear him say he thinks the Sega game is too hard that's why game-play goes to the SNES. Other than the music on SNES I don't see in anyway how it could be a better game it doesn't even look better IMHO. Anyways nice videos keep up the good work.
+kirgeez Well, as fun as the sega game is, its not a Batman game, its a Contra game. Its not what you think of when you think of a Batman video game. And maybe hard was the wrong word. Unbalanced is probably better. It starts of fine, but get too hard way too fast. You can't beat it with low powered weapons and its so hard to stay alive long enough to get weapons maxed out. You have to be flawless in later levels and thats a bit much.
I would agree that its similar to Gunstar Heroes or Contra Hard Corps but I would still say you are smoking if you think that's a bad thing. I'd still say its great..:) But then again It has elements of game types I like so I guess I am bias... When I saw the game I didn't think oh this is not a Batman game I was more like Oh shit this is awesome...
+kirgeez I've owned the game for a half year now and still haven't beaten the 2nd level. It is REALLY fucking hard. I used to play tons of hard NES games back in the day, even beat a handful of them, but this game's difficulty is really frustratingly difficult. It's like difficultly for a perfectionist. I can relate to why it turned the tables to the SNES. If the difficulty was toned down, i think it could've won.
Obviously, whether you like one or the other more is a matter of taste, but objectively the Genesis game is much better. If we are arguing which game best represents the batman license you can say that Super is (if you overlook that Batman has the agility of a turtle), but let's imagine an FMV type Batman game where you see a real high quality Batman movie in which you press a button every 2 minutes. The game would represent Batman perfectly, but it would be bad and boring, so what counts is which game is better. PS: As for the graphics, the Super version is very good, but it is competing with the probably best game in the technical section of the Genesis. To say that the Super's graphics are better is either not knowing the Genesis version well or being quite biased.
The reason why Robin isn't in the SNES version is because it was going to be called Batman: The Animated Series, but the name change in the show resulted in the game being called The Adventures of Batman and Robin.
I happen to find you guys well doing research for a panel at a local con with generally the same idea, and i quite dig it dudes. Love the idea for the channel, keep it up!
Please do Rock N Roll Racing ! Loved this video, here i thought the Sega version was superior. You should have mentioned that the turbo option helps playing the Sega version.
hey guys, good stuff. this is one of my favorite things to watch. i've seen every episode and cant wait for more! ill be sure to mention you in my next video.
Very good game. I have this one for the SNES. Sega Genesis looks good too, nice graphics, but I don't like this "Contra" shooter style. One of most impressive levels for me it's the Riddler one. The graphics, especially the reflects on the floor and rotation effects are amazing! And the investigation / RPG style it is very good too! I have this cartridge until today and never beated this game, that final stage it's so hard, man! Time to play it again! Thanks you guys!
At some point, sprite size effects gameplay. Bigger sprites do not a good game make. Thus Larger Sprites = worse game, when you are in a high action game like the SEGA Batman.... SEGA Genesis Batman is obviously a Contra-esque Batman, which is refreshing to see gameplay over license taking precedence....... Saying SNES Batman has better visuals, is like saying Dragon's Lair Has better graphics than "The Last of Us. Kinda Subjective...." SEGA GENESIS Batman is just more of a game and less of an "experience" like the SNES game. Personally the SNES Batman bored me after stage 3, plus the SEGA game is 2 player Co-op Nuff said on gameplay. Somewhere between the two of them, there could have been a game made that satisfied both hardcore action game players and slow methodical almost-RPG game players. Wish another Contra-like Batman came out, but everything these days is slow and methodical and soft. Like the SNES game.
Great comment, my opinion is pretty similar. The SNES game is a pseudo-complex slow paced platformer, while the Genesis game is a run n gun, very different games, it depends on your tastes. But hell, even AVGN preferred the genesis version. Also, the genesis games isn't that difficult, you guys are exaggerating. But if that is the case then Sunset Riders, Contra 3 and Hard Corps are bad games because they are hard and you need skills to beat them?
Sega, NOOOOOOOOO! I would have personally went Sega for graphics and gameplay, Nintendo for presentation and music. However, I can understand picking how you did.
Since everyone is saying genesis is better ask yourself this question . Which version is actually desired more by collectors ? Go check and trust me it's not the sega one
I really enjoyed this ! Yeah, tried both the SNES and Sega versions, the gameplay is far too repetitive and brutal on the Sega. SNES has lots of different gameplay styles requiring many more skills than the Sega which is just constant shooting. SNES is also much more forgiving and fun to play just to chill out, while the Sega version is like an extreme workout on the fingers ! :D
Funilly enough, I'm not sure if you heard this or not, but the SNES game wasn't gonna be called The Adventures of Batman and Robin. It was gonna be called Batman: The Animated Series, which explains why Robin wasn't playable. But due to the name change to the series, execs kinda forced them to use that name.
Yep that's true it was changed when the show changed its name and since the game was already in production they couldn't re-do the whole game to accommodate robin
This could be a stretch, but why not try a special 4-way Art of Fighting console war between SNES, Genesis, Turbografx, and Neo Geo as your next episode?
Sound is objective to the listener I suppose, but I would have given the SNES the edge in the sound department because the music fits in better with game's Theme.
As always was very interesting to watch Your's video!^^,) Never played on SNES, but I beat it with friend on SMD and that was AWESOME gameplay!!! We tried so hard all week and finally we did it!^^,) Love that game and hunting a copy of SNES version.
It's unbelievable how Batman was more fun on the NES then on the 16 bit systems! I definitely think the second genesis version was better by the way but not by much
SNES Pissed me off with the graphics, the Genesis clearly SHOULD'VE WON DUE TO SPRITE SCALING, ROTATION, AND KILLER ANIMATION! It looks WONDERFUL, sprite scaling CLEARLY SHOULD'VE BEEN THERE! The variety actually Genesis has allot mindblowing for the system.
***** The game looks beautiful! I am sorry, but sprites moving, or animations changing should EASILY GIVE THE Genesis a run for its money for graphics. It looks nice. Aesthics damn look sweet, nothing is better than hot cup of pure technical wizardry.
Even though the Sega version is brutally difficult I still find myself going back to it over and over. The two player mode is even harder since you have to share power-ups.
I really love this episode. I know this is kind of an old review but there's one part I didn't like about the SNES version. It still kind of bothers me a little bit. The problem is that the character Harley Quinn wasn't really part of a boss fight in the SNES version. She was mostly a cameo in a few cutscenes. It was mostly the Joker and I have no problem with that. However, since it's Batman the animated series and it was her first apperance. It would of been nice if Harley Quinn was first a boss battle in the SNES version. Then it should of been the Joker. This was covered by the Sega Genesis version that Harley Quinn was first a boss battle. Then it was the Joker next. That's one part I didn't like about the SNES vesrion. While the Sega Genesis version had that part and it was pretty damn cool to see that part. Anyways, that's one part but the games I thought they were ok for it's time. Anyways, great work you guys and I'll keep watching.
Hold up fam I know this dude did not just complain on trying to beat a game in one sitting. That's how it was back in the day. That's the fun in it. Ain't nothing more satisfying than trying to beat it in one sitting. Try beating Streets of Rage 3 for the true ending on hard. That was satisfying
Never played these games, or watched the show, but the games do look fun. I really wanted to get into this show and X-Men back in the day, but we only had one TV with cable, and my parents were always watching it. Also, the Genesis version does have some pretty kickass original music!
Absolutely fantastic episode gents! - when I asked Mark which one of use would be batman he answered "neither, you'd be the joke and I'd be Harley Quinn"......I...I don't know how to feel about that. Anyway - Loved this!
as a cartoon-based game, snes version is definitely better. but i personally prefer genesis version, since i'm not a great fan of batman series and don't have any interact at batman characters and stories. just a simple and hardcore run-n-gun gameplay is enough for me. also i haven't seen any boss fights and music that are better than mad hatter. even riddler in SNES version was so lame compared to him !
snoogans23 It takes a while, about a month. Its hard to meet cuz our schedules are so different. And now I'm sick so we're delayed even more. Still want to get one more out before the new year.
guys, guys, GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUYS!!!! is not that the "character are smaller on the Segas", is because on Genesis they have a higher resolution than SNES, but all games play at 4:3 regardless, which makes the characters thinner.
No. They are smaller, but it makes sense since you need to take in the entire screen at all times, and because the Genesis does have a bigger resolution, with it being the way it is, you can react faster to enemies and dodge better.
***** Look at the snes batman and robin, the enemies look like they are running though molasses. I'm sure if the Genesis didn't care about running in slow motion they could make the characters huge too.
E Tr There is an massive amount less going on in the SNES version. The game was designed to be slow and have less going on in general, while the Genesis version is designed to have a shitload of things going on and to fuck your shit right up.
The reason why the snes version doesn't have Robin as a playable character is because the game was in production before fox kids wanted Robin to be featured more in cartoon series . So Nintendo wasn't going stop production to include Robin as a playable character ... they just switched the game titles and that's it but I do agree it would have been awesome if Robin was playable
I can't help but wonder if the makers of cuphead weren't Loosely inspired by the Cheshire Cat boss in the Genesis game when they created Werner wormans cat robot.
Kevin Conroy who plays Batman since the 90's Animated Series has played Batman the most and has a long Legacy, including the Arkham Series. The Arkham games are the best Batman games so for. There's two new Batman Series called Gotham(More like Batman's version of Smallville) and Attack on Arkham. Did you know it's the 75th Anniversary of Batman? And do "Justice League TaskForce" next and probably Zelda with a Genesis game like Zelda or Secret Of Mana with a Genesis game like Secret of Mana.
Both games are sweet but entirely different, similar to the Batman Returns titles. Im more of a Sega collector but the SNES version is an absolute must own for the system and for any Batman fans. I dislike the cardboard box Genesis releases however and wish it had been in a clamshell case. That would be my only gripe with the Sega version...and its hard as hell!
Another thing to point out about the SNES version of the game is that it featured more villain characters from the show than its Sega Genesis counterpart, since the only villains who appeared in that version of the game were Joker (& Harley Quinn), Two-Face, Mad Hatter, and Mr. Freeze.
I do agree with the victor here, but not really the scoreboard. Here's what I would change: Graphics: Tie. Let me explain this one. I think Super Nintendo has better backgrounds and character design, while Genesis has better 3d and level depth. Presentation: Sega The Genesis' opening cutscene and end cutscene alone just completely destroy everything SNES has, in my opinion. The addition of text on Super Nintendo was nice, though. Sound: SNES The Genesis game has an amazing soundtrack, but having the sound of the source material seems to be a crucial factor in this category. And the Super Nintendo game has exactly that. It also has more sound effects. Gameplay: SNES This one has been explained in the video, so I'll leave it at that. Still, great video guys, wishing the best and hoping you keep up the good work.
