Salman akram raja sahb how can you remember a lot of things. Political and constitutional history of pakistan, history of other nations a man with a strong intellect. Really inspirational personality. The way he speaks and uses pure urdu words is just brilliant.
Sir Salman Akram Raja is a great legal and constitutional scholar. An educated upright man. A voice in favor of masses and constitution. Thanks dr Hoodbhoy for efforts.
People like Salman Akram Raja Sahib are in short supply in Pakistan . Raja Sahib is blessed with clarity of thoughts on fundamental issues and ability to make an intellectually deep statement in layman's terms . May Allah protect him and all of us from our so called protectors .
When he speaks Urdu, you can hear words of urdu only. An eloquent speaker who does not mix english language in his talk even though he has command on english too.
This is probably the best discussion so far on The Black Hole. I had no idea about the extraordinary intellect that Mr. Salman Raja possesses. I'm still in awe. Again, all credit goes to Hoodbhoy Sahib for introducing us to this amazing person.
Thanks a lot Prof Pervez for bringing such a wonderful guest and having meaningful, fruitful discussion. Please bring such guests in the future too. Thanks once again.
What a brilliant, inspiring and intellectual individual who can talk fluently about the history of Pakistan on facts ❤he has all the qualities of being Prime Minister of this country
Great intellectual mind of Pakistan. May Allah SWT bless him with more wisdom, and successes in all his endeavors and realization of his dreams. Aameen.
A very stimulating talk, an intellectual treat, which showcased the stunning breadth of Salman Akram Raja's knowledge. In his person, he combines a stellar intellect with a fine-tuned moral compass--a combination that is quite rare, especially in Pakistan where there is no dearth of silver-tongued rogues or conversely dolts masquerading as intellectuals.
Really informative and comprehensive talk ❤ Happy to see Both intellectual and rational personalities, Salman Akram Raja & Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy ___ Red Salute Black Hole team, Outstanding efforts❤
بیرسٹر سلمان راجہ کی ایک انتہائی متاثر اور علمی گفتگو، سیاست اور قانون کو علیحدہ نہیں کیا جاسکتا اور ان دونوں موضوعات پرسلمان راجہ نے بہترین گرفت کا مظاہرہ کیا
Absolutely brilliant! Two of the smartest minds at work here, and the caliber clearly shows. But I am disappointed that most of the focus was on the historic references, and on explaining the prevailing context, and not enough time was spent on the current state of affairs. The last question was spot on. The judiciary, in the last 16 months, has violated every moral, social as well as judicial construct. Or they have looked away while this violation has taken place in broad daylight. Individual rights have been tarnished. Institutions have been used for personal agenda and for political targeting. Here's the height of the mockery of what is happening as we speak. There's an active debate, "Practice and Procedure Act," where the legislature (a separate branch of the govt, mind you) is attempting to control the judiciary. Rather than throw out the reference, we have seven judges who seem to be inclined towards it. They don't see a problem when one of the three pillars of the government becomes the arbitrator-in-chief. Furthermore, how cases are picked, how they are processed, how judges conduct themselves, it is likely everyone is operating with absolute immunity. The entire appellate process is a sham. Here's a litmus test. Gather 100 of the finest legal minds in a room, and pose the questions that are before our judges. Watch them debate and come up with a decision. Let's allow precedence to provide guardrails. I seriously doubt that even one of them would take these decisions, or would condone such conduct. History is the ultimate judge, right? As you pointed out, Justice Nasim Shah came out and went public with what had transpired during those dark days. But can those tears and regrets rewind the clock? Can it undo the grave and irreparable damage that was caused? You mentioned several times when courts gave their tacit consent to the army "to do whatever they please, even if it means they rip apart the constitution." Just a few years later, we are openly condemning those decisions. Just like that, the story of these days would also be viewed in a few years' time, and I cannot imagine there being a faction that would attempt to justify these actions. It is absolutely shameful to see that is happening in Pakistan. My final point: this is like a runaway train, where people are fighting over who gets to control it. But nobody is thinking about the 240 million who are also riding this train, and are fast heading towards a cliff.
Amazing talk! Mr. Salman is indeed an asset of Pakistan. He is right that our society and its values have rotten. He doesnt actually say it but thats what he implies. How to fix that is a mountain of a task and a Munir or Sharif or Khan or anyone else alone can not fix it. This will require some real sacrifices. Very enlightening.
The Black Hole is the perfect name for this forum. Despite the birth of great discussions and thought, nothing leaves it and benefits the actual society. It remains strictly in the academic realm.
worth hearing .... after dr aishtayq discussion l dont want to stay on this platform to waste my time ...but today's discussion was to the point and interesting
The day the generals of army (the active ones; without the gunmen in or outside the room) are brought to such discourse, Pakistani society will set its movement in a right direction.
Its an irony indeed...citizens talking about so called constitution which is not worth the paper it's written on when the army rules Pakistan by default.
Wish Mr. Salman Akram Raja win in elections and play a role in reforming judiciary. The major problem of judges is that they themselves drag the cases which could be decided in one hearing. It has been this attitude that people wrong each other because they know that aggrieved party won't get justice from the courts. The cases pile up because everybody takes refuge behind the delayed judgments of courts. And the way in last two years judiciary has gotten exposed it has taken away the respect and sanctity associated even with apex courts.
ملکی مسائل پر بحث کرنے کا اچھا پلیٹ فارم ھے پرویز ھود بھائی اس آج کی جاہل قوم میں روشنی کا مینار ھیں اور سلمان راجہ جیسے اچھے سپیکر اس قوم کی نوجوان نسل کے ذھن کو بدلنے کا کام احسن رنگ میں ادا کر سکتے ھیں اس کاوش کو جاری رکھیں ❤ امید ہے ایک دن اس قوم کا شعور بیدار ھو گا انشاء اللہ
Why people keep saying Pakistan got Freedom in 1947? Pakistan was born in 1947. A country that did not exist as of 1947, how it gets freedom and from whom? India as it existed as of 1947, got freedom from British. Then some muslims (remember some not all!) separated and formed a new country called Pakistan in the name of Islam. East Pakistan then formed as Bangladesh from Pakistan (that has east and west). Just as Bangladesh didn’t get freedom from Pakistan, so is Pakistan didn’t get freedom from British or India!
Mian Muhammad Iftikhar-ud-Din is considered as the only Muslim in the Constituent Assembly who opposed the Objective Resolution but Hamid Khan claims in his book "Political and Constitutional History of Pakistan" that he was not present in the Constituent Assembly at the time of voting on the said resolution. From where Raja Sahib extracted that he seconded the resolution?
I agree with one of the comments made here that " Pakistan is a garrison state and citizens are talking about constitution !!! ". In Pakistan the army controls everything and I wonder if they even have a constitution ???. When did they adopt a constitution ??. Whats the point of this discussion when there is no fully empowered civilian govt in place first ??. Kick the army out of politics and then talk about constitution. The PM appoints the army general and then the army general boots the PM out 😂😂😂.
In the past, I used to think that Salman Akram was educated in the US and an enlightened individual, but seeing him take the oath on Quran for PTI made me realize that even educated people today are brain washed robots. Religion and politics don't mix. The term politics refers to compromises made for the betterment of the country. One alternative approach to addressing societal issues without religious influence is to focus more on secular values and principles, such as equality, justice, and respect for all individuals. This can be achieved through promoting inclusivity, education, and open-mindedness, as well as encouraging critical thinking and dialogue among individuals from diverse backgrounds. Additionally, implementing policies and programs that prioritize the well-being and interests of society as a whole can help address societal issues in a non-religious and unbiased manner.
ہم کو اس سامراج فوج سے پاکستان کو آزاد کرونا ہو گا ان کے پاس ۶ لاکھ ہے تم ہم کو بھی ۱۲ لاکھ کے ساتھ ان سے لڑنا ہو گا میں فوج پاکستانی کا بہت حامی ہو لیکن بہت نقصان پہچایا ہے پاکستان کا اس فوج نے
Bha'i sahab vahan pahlay hi literacy rate aap kay han say achcha tha ma'ishat bhi aap say achchi thi, aur sab say baRah kar sincerity apni zameen kay sath jis ka pahlay din say aap kay han fuqdan tha
Main concern is implementation of constitution and law but till now it is just exploitative to get hold on the others. That is why Pakistan is in a serious state of crisis. Everything was managed either history or constitution.
