Continuing Pronation vs Non-Continuing Pronation On The Serve (2019) 

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a complicated topic. i like this demo of +/- pronation! helps me to understand the variations. thank you.

Nick, this is a great capture of continuing pronation! I just need to incorporate it into my serve!

Clarifying one single tennis conundrum perfectly. JOB DONE!! Contuing serve pronation just like the modern Eastern Backhand plus flourish follow through just puts too much strain on my Sr. Elbow.

This is a fantastic lesson. I love your free or paid teaching! I do not have the continuous pronation and always wonder if it is ok. Now, I think that I do not have to make the continuous pronation if it is not natural to me. Right? Thank you

Amazing, thanks Nikola - I've been obsessing over this part of my serve lately, and this helps me understand that I should not worry about it.

Thanks for breaking things down

Very difficult topic, alot of debate regarding it, there seems to be alot of people who have varying opinion on this topic. From what I have gathered from various discussions on forums about this topic, talking to coaches and also alot of players and from my own experience: Continued pronation likely happens when you hit more UPWARDS and RIGHT away from the ball path (on any serve, flat, slice, kick) which adds more spin to the ball, pat doughtery the serve doctor refers to this as hitting UP over the mountain, and when you do that your motion is also more of a cartwheel shoulder over shoulder and the body stays slightly more sideways at contact. All the energy of the pronation after contact still goes up and away, and since it can't go anymore up it goes around and continues to pronate. Thats why Federer and Sampras always continue to pronate, because every serve they hit has massive spin, even if its a faster 1st serve down the T it still has alot of topspin and/or slice on it, and that means they don't go directly through the ball but more away past the ball. When continued pronation does not happen its because after you contact the ball (on any serve flat, slice, kick) you pull down with ur body and arm more instead of continuing to let it swing UP, resulting in slightly less spin and more drive on your serve, now the differences are not that massive, its just slight variations of spin and drive that make up the difference. In any way, when you pull down the arm and racquet by your upper body pulling down sooner, the energy of the pronation after contact still has to go somewhere, but since ur body pulls down earlier it now doesn't go more sideways and continues to pronate but rather goes more down into wrist flexion where the wrist bends down.

A very interesting video! When I try to pronate "all the way" I tend to pronate too early and hit it way off to the right (right hander). Looking forward to part 2 of this video.

thanks first of all , lot of pro's refer only to the second part of the pronation " after contact "

Hi Nikola, Thank you for the video explanation of the differences. Very helpful. Do I understand correctly that using a serve with a non-continuing pronation puts less stress on the wrist of the serving hand? For me the deciding factor is how much (or better yet how less) stress I feel in my wrist (which already hurts almost all the time).

also show about the forehand + - pronation.

I wonder if some of those variances in pronation in your examples with Ivo and Pliskova were due to off centre hits causing the racquet to torque?

Continuing Pronation gives faster speed or more spin but less accuracy.

Nik, I finally realized that I should start pronating on my kick serve, and when I tried it, it gave it extra bite and pace, but accuracy went into the toilet. So much so that I had to stop, especially during matches. Any tips?

so ive just gotten my head around this pronation technique accidentally. i learned this new technique of increasing biceps muscles by doing twist curls. basically lift dumbbell, supinate and pronate exactly the same idea. except for ur holding ur racket and ur wrist is loose as hell. started wondering if thats the reason why serena stosur nadal etc have huge guns? researching everywhere how much biceps factors in on this. nothing in the internet forums, everyones saying biceps isnt much used in tennis, its actually the triceps thats used the most in serve. i know the two muscles are complimentary but i still think u start with biceps at the trophy pose, curl it ,then relax and extend as u throw. any thoughts??. heres a vid btw where this guy talks about biceps ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cOlPpzEaAE8.html (around 1:38) . i hope im making sense thanx.

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At the end pronation after the contact is a myth