Conversations with History: Robert S. McNamara 

Me too bro 😂🤣

Hell yeah bro! 👏🏽🤣

& Kennedy

And Nixon

Same

“For no purpose”? Give me a break.

Ten years ago, and this comment was made 11 years ago, meaning it's 21 years ago now..

did you blow him?

@@seanjohnson7367 You are a walaper!

@@SStupendous 23 years ago! :(

@@nitricacid3714 Dear God! My reply to you is now 2 yeards old already... time really flies. When this reply is 2 years old, we'll be 1/4 of the way through this century!

for how much more the $ was worth or for how cheap uni was?

$52 in 1933 (McNamara’s freshman year) is $1,115 in 2021 dollars. The closest media income figure I could find was the median engineer’s salary in 1932: $2,574. Tuition therefore cost 2% of the engineer’s salary. Median civil engineer salary in 2020 was $88,570. UC Berkley’s undergraduate tuition and fees for 21-22: $9,213. That’s 10% of the median civil engineer salary. The difference isn’t that big when one accounts for inflation.

Rest in Hell McNamara. USMC1969-1971

@@robertlytle9387 why?

@@god-of-war-fan McNamara was instrumental in helping LBJ fight the war in Vietnam. He has the blood on his hands of thousands of Vietnam veterans. He also like most of the politicians of his era, when the men came back, were more than glad to let us take the blame for the war. Also it should be noted that he had two sons who were old enough to fight in Vietnam, but were not even drafted. USMC 1969-1971

oh i dont buy him for a second....but he was fabulous with the cuban missle crises

@@charlesbukowski9836but a mere drop in the ocean of blood he’s gutted from human civilization.

Nixon during elections claimed that he had secret plan to end war. Total number of fatalities for his years of presidency are higher than LBJ and JFK's. Not to mention that he expanded war from Vietnam to nearby countries.

JFK gets a pass because his involvement in Vietnam was minimal. Only sending military consultants and nothing more. LJB barely gets a pass and Nixon gets most of the flack because casualties were the highest during his terms.

USA casualties peak in 1968, and then decline under Nixon admin. Hostile or Non Hostile Death Indicator Number of Records HOSTILE DEATH 47,434 NON HOSTILE DEATH 10,786 Total Records 58,220 Record counts provided for informational purposes only, not official statistics. DCAS Vietnam Conflict Extract File record counts by INCIDENT OR DEATH DATE (Year) (as of April 29, 2008 ) Year of Death Number of Records 1956 - 1959 4 1960 5 1961 16 1962 53 1963 122 1964 216 1965 1,928 1966 6,350 1967 11,363 1968 16,899 1969 11,780 1970 6,173 1971 2,414 1972 759 1973 68 1974 1 1975 62 1976 - 1979 0 1980 - 1986 0 1987 1 1988 - 1989 0 1990 1 1991 - 1999 0 2000 - 2006 5 Total Records 58,220

What on earth are you talking about? LBJ gets a pass on Vietnam? Since when? Vietnam War is considered the biggest blot on LBJ's presidency. And historians attribute the Vietnam War as the primary motivation for LBJs decision to not run a 2nd term.

Sure, in some regards, and he certainly has a niche in logistics and his technical achievements are marginally notable. While I personally I don't blame people in his time for being brainwashed into elitism, I think we as a society do need to retroactively condemn these ideals as they are proving entirely false as data accumulates on environmental impacts on mental function. We know now that all types of people are capable of exceptionalism when all their needs are met, and few people have contributed towards the oppression of more people.

So I guess the loss of over 58,000 american lives aswell as countless vietnamese lives was just one big, giant oopsy on his part. Hey we all make mistakes, right?

Over 3 millions deaths isn’t a mistake, it’s genocide.

Curtis LeMay was certifiably insane!

He was a pretty intelligent guy

Not necessarily. I wish it was true.

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I figured it out

Old Bob also threw nearly a million Americans, including a couple HUNDRED THOUSAND legitimately retards people into a potential meat grinder over an incident that NEVER HAPPENED! ...Berkeley, Harvard, Ford, President of the World Bank, Sec of Defense, WAR CRIMINAL! ...Rock solid guy! 👎💩

He was an idiot.

You got no taste

governator45 best documentary I've ever seen

Road to Hell

He was a smart man...imperfect but intelligent imo

They are everywhere now

We won militarily. We lost politically.

No, you lost both.

@@brittonstokes The only category that we won militarily was the body count. We could not hold territory.....the peasants were not switching sides to join us. The countryside was totally controlled by the VC and the NVA was able to move throughout S. Vietnam almost unnoticed (until they decided to attack). I don't like to admit it, because I love my country, but we lost in Vietnam. When our last Marine was flying off the roof of the embassy (because there was no other way out of the city), the VC and NVA were assaulting Saigon and had control of it before sunrise the next day.

Didn’t he?

@@cdr861532 Becuase of the way the war was fought, the American forces didn't hold territory. Look at Hamburger Hil. We lost a lot of men taking that hill but a few days after we won the battle we left, and ten days later the NVA moved right back in without firing a shot. USMC 1969-1971

nobody likes Kissinger

lol, he actually prevented real war crimes. He was a dove compared to what the joint chiefs of staff wanted to do in Vietnam.

@@kendallandrews8691 what are you talking about!?! The only thing he didn't ok in Vietnam was the dropping of nukes. Everything else was fair game as far as he was concerned. Napalm, white phosphorus and agent orange (chemical warfare) were all approved by Macnamara.

@@MrSleeplessnights Nope. Mcnamara was bad and incompetent, but he wasn't nearly the hawk the Joint Chiefs of Staff were. He put limits on bombing North Vietnam. Had Curtis Lemay and Earle Wheeler had their way, Vietnam wouldn't exist. He absolutely was a check on the military leadership.

@@kendallandrews8691 do you know nothing? Vietnam basically didn't exist anymore. All 5 pillars or society were smashed to bits. Healthcare, transport, housing, education and means of food production absolutely lay waste. And when he saw that it would be even worse than WWII, he jumped ship. I'm not saying he is as cold as LeMay, but the outcome wasn't Mich different

@@MrSleeplessnights lol a lee duan apologist. Gross

He was more successful than whoever taught you English.