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Follow along as I convert a Harbor Freight tailgator generator to start with a cordless drill. Don't fix your broken pull/rope start, convert to electric start.

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@BigBlockRick-gy6ym
@BigBlockRick-gy6ym 5 дней назад
That was a real how-to experiment….no unnecessary editing Great video of a guy just tinkering around to make something more convenient … Fun to watch…love it!
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 5 дней назад
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for taking the time to leave such a pleasant comment.
@foxtrottango8745
@foxtrottango8745 2 дня назад
You want to keep it running longer? Get rid of the 2cycle crud oil mix and use Amsoil 100:1 2cycle oil because synthetic oil protects better and you use less oil. I was a former professional small engine mechanic.
@CanadianBrewingChannel
@CanadianBrewingChannel 8 дней назад
I have been doing this for years when I have a hard starting motor I want to test. Saves on the shoulders!
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 8 дней назад
Absolutely, thanks for sharing.
@paulveenings6861
@paulveenings6861 27 дней назад
That’s an upgrade on a crank handle that we used to start cars with. Well done 👍
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 25 дней назад
Thank you, I appreciate the comment.
@M4jeff
@M4jeff Год назад
Good content! Thank you for posting, you are a scholar and a gentleman.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Год назад
You’re welcome. Thanks for taking time to comment and being a great person 👍
@ryanjo5726
@ryanjo5726 11 месяцев назад
great, thanks for this detailed Video, i have a similar Generator that has been paining my shoulders to start. gonna try this.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for taking the time to check in. Good luck on the conversion 👍
@JeffBishop_KB3QMT
@JeffBishop_KB3QMT Месяц назад
These generators are a Yamaha design that the Chinese kept manufacturing. I've had great luck with these, getting over 2000 hours on one of them. There is a trick to these. #1: Never pull the rope without the choke all the way on, it's likely to backfire and break the starter pawls (plastic) requiring a new blower shroud ($20). #2: When you turn these off, shut them off by shutting off the fuel. It will burn all the fuel from the carburetor and prevent any lacquer buildup inside the carburetor. #3: Don't leave fuel in the tank for long periods of time. If you embrace these few things, these little generators will run for years. While I don't know how it will perform for others, I've never had any problem running televisions or computers on these small generators.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Mine has been a bit of a pain to start but I am actually very impressed with the performance of this little generator.
@JeffBishop_KB3QMT
@JeffBishop_KB3QMT 28 дней назад
@@TheLawnEngineer I think these are great little generators and underrated. They are noisy compared to a Honda, but the Honda is incredibly expensive by comparison. I've had a lot of good luck with these over the years, and it's often the perfect size.
@STho205
@STho205 6 дней назад
They are a pain to start because they are 2 cycle and the pull cord is quite short to get speed. Step 1, drill an access hole in the plastic carb cover (air filter panel) that you can plug with a tiny cork. Step 2: set to run and spray with starting fluid. Step 3: put cork in hole Step 4: choke it and pull slowly through one complete revolution. Step 5: put it on half choke and pull slowly just to 1st compression stroke then pull fast. Should start on 1st fast pull. Or 2nd. The running them dry still leaves gas mix in the carb bowl (about 1/2). If old that'll fight you. There's no purge tap, so just remove bowl (one easy nut) and dump. I miss purge taps.
@rcnelson
@rcnelson 5 дней назад
#1: Only a piece of crap would have this problem.
@STho205
@STho205 5 дней назад
@@rcnelson it is a crappy generator. It works, but it is a fiddly carb. It is a $70 700watt generator for just lights and a few power tools on a spot. I bought it for work out in my woods where I can easily toss it in the back of the vehicle...without the mass and overkill weight of a real generator. Extremely loud. They retail for 150 now and aren't worth that. Easier to buy a small battery pack today...but not 10 years ago. They do last, but the power sine wave will only settle out with a load 1st like several lights or a fan before you try to plug in a sensitive device.
@JamesBrown-js3lm
@JamesBrown-js3lm Месяц назад
I was doing that back in the early 70s on a scooter I acquired from a friend. The kick start was broken but the drill worked perfectly.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
You’re a smart guy, the only difference is we have cordless tools now.
@kenniegarner3848
@kenniegarner3848 Месяц назад
You did everything the exact way I would have done it, whatever it takes. Great job!
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Thanks for taking the time to leave a nice comment.
@shanhannum9999
@shanhannum9999 2 года назад
sure makes it easier for older people, or the disabled who cant pull the rope
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 2 года назад
I'm glad you found some value in the video! It certainly makes starting this generator easier.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 2 года назад
Couldn't use a hole saw for the socket hole? Good conversion.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 2 года назад
@@joewoodchuck3824 a hole saw or large step drill would have worked better. I need to up my hole making game with some new tools 🧰.
@bellyacres7846
@bellyacres7846 Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FckBIMatYzo.html this shows Gluing the socket And the rachet device - extra precaution that are a good idea.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 Месяц назад
I used this idea while troubleshooting a no-start, allowed me to concentrate on finding the problem rather than my tired arm. I'll say, if the starter center shaft bushing is packed full with heavy grease, the spring won't retract the pull cord properly in very cold weather.
@davidmetcalf1093
@davidmetcalf1093 Месяц назад
I start my push mower the same way, just use a bigger drill. Good Job !
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Thanks 👍, I appreciate the comment.
@Counselor77
@Counselor77 Месяц назад
A little handy hint if you're doing any sheet metal drilling, use a step drill bit and they work great.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Yes, great tip. I’ve thought about picking one up but I always forget when I’m at the store.
@johnnichol9412
@johnnichol9412 День назад
First did this some 40 years ago, admittedly with a corded drill back then.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer День назад
Definitely not new but new to me 👍
@woodsie5474
@woodsie5474 19 дней назад
Let me just warn you that you run the risk of ruining the shaft by constantly using the drill on that nut. Either the nut or the shaft is harder than the other. Either way, you might torque the nut down too much. You might want to build a bridge that goes over it, and attach it outboard and above the shaft nut, attaching it to the flywheel somewhere that will not interfere with the magnets inside for the magneto.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 17 дней назад
Great point, I made a follow up video that goes over these concerns. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jf4qOC9220I.html
@francisconti9085
@francisconti9085 28 дней назад
Nice little generator actually!
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 27 дней назад
It has served me pretty well, especially for the price.
@mgilbert754
@mgilbert754 Месяц назад
A genius in a T-shirt! Who would have thunk it!!
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
lol, thanks.
@Willy12927
@Willy12927 7 месяцев назад
Using a drill and socket to start an engine,especially a 2 cycle, can create a problem when the engine starts and turns faster than the drill and socket cannot be removed fast enough. Not only can the drill be damaged, but the flywheel nut can come off and allowing flywheel to come lose and damage the crank. Best to use a socket ratchet along with the socket.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 7 месяцев назад
You are correct, I made a follow up video about that topic: Watch this Before Converting Engine to Drill Start ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jf4qOC9220I.html
@garyday6681
@garyday6681 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the novel, but nope not helpful.
@Krazycat321
@Krazycat321 Месяц назад
Option B, Fix the pull cord!
@Willy12927
@Willy12927 Месяц назад
@@Krazycat321 No matter how good the pull cord is it won't fix a 76 year old arthritic shoulder.
@Reloadeez
@Reloadeez Месяц назад
Overrunning clutch drive drill adapter is the safest way. An impact gun can be used in a pinch, they will free spin when not engaged.
@chrisgoodwin9853
@chrisgoodwin9853 Месяц назад
When I built and raced the Harbor Freight and Briggs engines, we would take the flywheel nut off and repalce it with an extended crank nut. You could use a drill or a starter box to crank it. In a pinch, we would keep a cutoff Briggs 5hp pull start. You still need to cut a small hole in the blower housing for the nut to extend out. Make sure to remove the sharp edges from the hole you made.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Great information, thanks for sharing your experience.
@markharwell8793
@markharwell8793 2 года назад
Nice job!
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 2 года назад
Thank you!
@nigelkavanagh2048
@nigelkavanagh2048 Год назад
Handy tip thank you.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Год назад
You’re welcome 👍
@arthurdunn1452
@arthurdunn1452 6 месяцев назад
Drill where nut thread meets crankshaft thread,drill and tap a thread 10 mm deep to take a high tensile grub screw and the nut will not loosen,definitely not without a ratchet device.Works extremely well!!Australia
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 6 месяцев назад
Great idea, with the grub screw, that would take some stress off the bolt. Thanks for taking the time to check in👍
@metalmicky
@metalmicky Месяц назад
Some flywheel fans are held on with a left handed thread ( it keeps the nut tight when the engine is running ) using the pistol drill can sometime undo the nut and give you a lot of grief.
@Realgrande
@Realgrande Месяц назад
Genius, Pure Genius!
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Thank you for the nice comment.
@PeterLatterner-gd3fb
@PeterLatterner-gd3fb Месяц назад
I have used the drill trick, not for starting a small engine but for the purpose of performing a spark test or performing a compression test. A battery powered drill contains a reverse-current diode to quickly bring the drill to a stop when the operating trigger is released. When I use the drill on an engine, the braking effect does havoc on my wrist. A corded drill does not contain a reverse -current diode, so some amount of coasting is allowed when power is removed. This is much more comfortable on my wrist. Another way to resolve the wrist-twisting issue is to use a clutch or ratcheting mechanism. This would be even more necessary when using a drill for engine starting.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Great information, thanks for taking the time to share.
@Backstabbio
@Backstabbio Месяц назад
Careful when you do this with a four cycle-if you don’t pull the socket off quick, it can send your drill on a flight, with your arm attached…
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Absolutely right. I made a follow up video here: Watch this Before Converting Engine to Drill Start ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jf4qOC9220I.html
@ronb6182
@ronb6182 Месяц назад
I think this should be left to do on 2 cycle engines four cycle engines have a compression state when it's hard to get past that point. Two cycle engines are much easier to pull and the fly wheel movers more freely. I have an old lawn boy mower I would like to try this. All these new mowers don't have the placement of the wheels is the right place. The old days the front wheels were in two different places. The rearars like they are today. The front wheels had one in the front end the one on the right were about one third back for mowing uneven yards. I sure miss that in a mower . 73
@vernonmarsh
@vernonmarsh 29 дней назад
I love ingenuity.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 29 дней назад
Thanks for the comment.
@neilwoodmansey9109
@neilwoodmansey9109 3 дня назад
yeah, works better when the drill isn't on the "Hammer" setting, hahaha
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 3 дня назад
Yeah, that’s no good 🙃
@neilwoodmansey9109
@neilwoodmansey9109 2 дня назад
@@TheLawnEngineer 😂
@daiworkman2084
@daiworkman2084 25 дней назад
These generators are great for those emergencies, you only need a pull cord to start, the pesky rechargalbe tools need electricity to work, I hope yours are fully charged when needed!!
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 25 дней назад
That is definitely a consideration but it hasn't been a problem yet.
@BADD1ONE
@BADD1ONE 27 дней назад
Ive refurbished 3 gas generators over the years. They run great for a year or so then need more regular carb cleanings. No matter if a fuel filter and shut off is installed. Sea foam helps greatly. Ive moved on to propane. You can store propane for a decade or more. Done with gas.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 25 дней назад
Great idea, the gasoline of today isn’t a pure petroleum product anymore. Thanks for sharing.
@integr8er66
@integr8er66 25 дней назад
I have one of these, and many others, I'd say about 7 generators right now. They all last forever and never varnish. The trick is before you put it away, shut off the fuel, let it run till it starts to die, put the choke on till it dies and then the fuel is gone enough it won't varnish. I have an off grid cabin and put tens of thousands of hours on cheap little generators I never would have thought could run that long
@donaldfennell971
@donaldfennell971 27 дней назад
HF knock out (chassis punch) set would have been handy. Nice little project.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 27 дней назад
Yes it would have. Thanks for the comment.
@davidhollfelder9940
@davidhollfelder9940 Месяц назад
Use a 1-way clutch on the drill, so when it starts, it won’t wing the drill out of your hand, and maybe taking your fingers, or wrist out with it.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Yes great add.
@ConcernedCitizen-ut9fi
@ConcernedCitizen-ut9fi Месяц назад
Great idea
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Glad you think so!
@MICHAEL-ys3pu
@MICHAEL-ys3pu День назад
The rope is always in place, don’t have to go and get the drill, find the socket, hope the battery is not flat. Just use the rope, that’s what its for.🇦🇺
@FirstIrishKing
@FirstIrishKing Месяц назад
Good Job.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Thanks!
@paulsarah006
@paulsarah006 20 дней назад
You will cry when the drill stips out the crankshaft nut and the flywheel drops of it can not take the load on most engines
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 19 дней назад
Good point, I made a follow up video Watch this Before Converting Engine to Drill Start ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jf4qOC9220I.html
@godawgs689
@godawgs689 28 дней назад
I use an angle grinder with a flap wheel. It's held up for over 5 years now.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 27 дней назад
Great idea, thanks for sharing.
@ToddP
@ToddP 3 дня назад
As an old machinist, I have always been aggravated at manufacturers of pull start engines for not having a hex or allen head shaft end coming thru the housing to use a drill! I hate yanking on a Stihl chainsaw or a weedeater!
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 3 дня назад
That would be very handy, thanks for sharing.
@user-qe6zn5js4j
@user-qe6zn5js4j 27 дней назад
This is all good if you have a picture hanging drill like harbor freight, hart,or ryobi. But if you have a Dewalt XR or the Milwaukee Fuel I'd like to tell you before you make the same mistake I have. I went ahead and pulled the pull start off a clients junk Husky 300+ dollar 2 year old weedeater and it looks like brand new. I put the nut back on and was cranking it with the Fuel hammer drill which was not on hammer and I did have the clutch set up towards the higher end of the setting to turn it but still not break my wrist and I believe it could. I end up with the threads stripped on the crank to the point where I couldn't even get the nut back off until I finally got it to cross thread off ruined the crank as well. I learned not to do that ever again but also to not by Husqvarna anymore. I have the rough country chainsaw and I treat it right. I don't even use it once a month so I don't fill it up when I do I just try to get close to what I need non-e gas with a little more oil in it but run it out dry before I store it. Drain the gas tank and start it back up and let it run dry. Then your ready to let it sit. Nothing but non-e gas octane doesn't matter. If you have to use ethanol gas 93 contains less ethanol I believe then the lower grades to keep the 93 octane or it burns it better because of the high octane. Just experience that I have years of. I work on small engine's as 😢as side hustle. I am simply good at this
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 25 дней назад
Thanks for sharing your experience, very helpful.
@teddypreston5525
@teddypreston5525 Месяц назад
Nice and without fancy film editing. Just what I like. Think you should put a nice rubber grommet over the hole. More esthetically pleasant. Plus the flowing air will have the same volumetric as before & same cooling. Thanks. Nice video.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
I'm glad you liked this style of video, thanks or the feedback. A rubber grommet would be a great addition to guard the sharp edge of the hole.
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 Месяц назад
Remember, don't run engine for more than a minute with the cooling fan shroud removed, the engine will be overheated.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Yes, great reminder.
@mattharvey8712
@mattharvey8712 2 месяца назад
Bravo.....ok........clever.........they used to crank model T 's.......airplanes........use a air starter and then u will have a compressor as a bye product .....cheers.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 2 месяца назад
Too bad I missed the crank start car era, it looked like dangerous fun...probably make it more difficult for someone to steal your car too.
@capiberra4118
@capiberra4118 9 дней назад
Did this to my lawnboy lawn mower a couple of years ago.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 8 дней назад
Is that an older one with the offset front wheel? I like those, cut really well.
@David_7-n3q
@David_7-n3q 5 дней назад
Thanks for that, very helpful; but you should be wearing safety glasses.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 4 дня назад
Yes, you are right. Thanks for the comment.
@ourv9603
@ourv9603 Месяц назад
I got you one even better than that. I chucked all my gas lawn tools & swapped them all out for ELECTRICS. No yanking, no choking, no fueling, no oil changing, no running to fill the gas can, no hard starts, no stalling. No smokin, no stink, no noise. I never knew life could be so good!!! !
@garysgarage.2841
@garysgarage.2841 Месяц назад
If you have a small yard electric will probably work. A half acre or bigger your not gonna like electric the battery won't get the job done weed wackers and leaf blowers suck a battery pretty quickly. Their hard on batteries also last time I checked a decent sized battery for a weed wacker cost about the same as a small gas powered weed wacker and you'll need several batteries if you have a large piece of property so you can keep swapping them out when they go dead.
@JoeSmith-rg3vz
@JoeSmith-rg3vz Месяц назад
Battery worked great till my power went down. My ev car couldn't even make it to town to by gas for my generator. And of course my solar panels weren't getting any sun now what ?
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
I agree, the user experience is vastly better with high quality battery electric tools. There are still some nichs uses that gasoline is better but quickly disappearing.
@totallyrandomstuffandrevie9609
@totallyrandomstuffandrevie9609 Месяц назад
Bet that works great for your generator when power goes out
@francisconti9085
@francisconti9085 28 дней назад
I'm poor, I can't pay for all the batteries needed to get work done, then replacing batteries when I can afford 4x the gas equipment maintained right...
@onmyworkbench7000
@onmyworkbench7000 6 дней назад
We have been starting model airplanes like that for YEARS and I have used it to start other motors.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 6 дней назад
Interesting add, thanks for sharing.
@VegasGuy89183
@VegasGuy89183 22 дня назад
Seeing your problem-solving makes this a great video. But, you need to pick up a 3-pack of step drills the next time you are at HF. They would have made your project so much easier and look better. They're the absolute best way to make holes in sheet metal (or plastic).
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 20 дней назад
I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I agree, step drills would be a great addition to the toolbox.
@controlissues
@controlissues Месяц назад
As someone else alluded to, you've now taken your emergency power source and made it dependent on electricity to start. Hopefully when the next emergency need comes up you haven't allowed your drill battery to be drained.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
It’s definitely a consideration.
@TiredOldMann
@TiredOldMann Месяц назад
5/20/24 calling . A 300 watt solar panel with inverter would charge most / all modern tool batteries .
@BigRed-dr6we
@BigRed-dr6we 8 дней назад
The nut is a left hand thread. You will eventually crack & back it off meaning the fly wheel will become lose on the shaft. You could also sheer the drive shaft key. 😉 Both could result in expensive repairs.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 7 дней назад
That’s definitely a possible outcome.
@Pushyhog
@Pushyhog 25 дней назад
thanks mister
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 25 дней назад
You're welcome, thanks for the comment.
@jeff5279
@jeff5279 6 месяцев назад
Remove the pull starter assembly. Take a Forstner Bit and drill the center of the cover. Reattach the cover. This is what I did to my push mower when the pull start broke.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 6 месяцев назад
Yes a Forstner bit would have made quick work of this 👍
@PeterEmery
@PeterEmery 22 часа назад
A step drill bit would have been ideal for that centre hole.
@tim5158
@tim5158 Месяц назад
Hope your drill battery never dies !
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Possible but I have two and one is always on the charger.
@taylormach1699
@taylormach1699 13 дней назад
I did that with an old 1963 LI GRAVELY walk behind tractor. 1/2 inch drive drill or bigger , HOLD ON TIGHT.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 12 дней назад
Hold on tight is right!
@axeman33333
@axeman33333 Месяц назад
Did this on my pressure washer and twisted crank shaft bolt off.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Yes that can happen. I discuss that in this video: Watch this Before Converting Engine to Drill Start ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jf4qOC9220I.html
@nowthatsfunny1
@nowthatsfunny1 2 года назад
So when power goes out your drill battery is dead and you can't start generator. I'm just kidding. Its a good video.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 2 года назад
That would be quite ironic, wouldn't it? I'll make sure I keep one battery charged so I don't have to explain that to the family when the power does go out =)
@littlewolfendeavors2132
@littlewolfendeavors2132 Год назад
He will have the generator to charge them up
@davefilicicchia6341
@davefilicicchia6341 Месяц назад
Did the rope starter have a one-way clutch that would be adaptable to your drill start?
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
That is possible I’ll have to dig into it next time.
@SeeLifeBro
@SeeLifeBro 4 месяца назад
A little starter fluid goes a long way with these cheap generators.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 4 месяца назад
I bet that would help
@electromech7335
@electromech7335 28 дней назад
I squirt some start fluid in the intake holes and wait a little for it to vaporize then start it.
@user-sb9fw6ui2i
@user-sb9fw6ui2i Месяц назад
Excellent idea. But will it work with all of the other generators?
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
You can make it work with almost any generator or small engine. There are some reasons you may not want to, check this out for that discussion:ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jf4qOC9220I.html
@rmoran9999
@rmoran9999 2 года назад
Nice video I did this a while ago with a 212 predator motor and my drill was not spinning it fast enough and it wasn't starting you have to make sure your drill spins it fast enough
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 2 года назад
I’m glad you liked the video 👍. I too was surprised at the drill speed required to get the engine started. I’m sure the drill requirements go up significantly with engine displacement.
@JosephOxbrough
@JosephOxbrough 2 года назад
Air impact gun can’t start my 14.5 Briggs and Stratton
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 2 года назад
@@JosephOxbrough that is a lot of cc’s to turn over.
@chrisbaker2903
@chrisbaker2903 Год назад
@@TheLawnEngineer Imagine the torque required to turn over my 5.9 liter diesel where each 60 cubic inch cylinder has a 17.8/1 compression ratio
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Год назад
@@chrisbaker2903 Yes, I don't think my DeWalt drill would be able to turn that beast over. In the early 2000s I had a Suburban with the 6.2L non-turbo diesel. I believe those are 22:1 and it turned over very slowly, especially in winter.
@robsarchery9679
@robsarchery9679 18 дней назад
nice
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 17 дней назад
Thanks
@ham1009
@ham1009 Месяц назад
This is not a new thought, actually a company back in the seventies made a rubber adapter that went in the place of your pull start and you also had one for a drill. All you needed was to plug your drill in reach down with your adapter rubber socket your engine started with little fuss. My father had these and several of his lawn mowers. Not new just forgotten. Actually I still have one those setups. I think they were actually sold in popular mechanics a magazine to all you young people.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Thanks for the perspective, only thing new is better batteries for our cordless tools 👍
@johnconnor6725
@johnconnor6725 Месяц назад
Nice, I also have one of those tailgater POS and another brand the same size never tested. I was hoping to see something I could use to convert a little 4 stroke weed eater to electric start. It's not a yard tool anymore but a canoe drive using rc airplane propeller that are only a couple bucks not the $30+ for trolling motor ones.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Great idea for a canoe engine. You should be able to use the same concept. The crank bolt should be right behind the recoil.
@hosslane320
@hosslane320 Месяц назад
You can make a propeller out of a flat piece of stainless steel flat bar 1/8 " thick × 1 3/4 " wide by 6 - 7" long , it don't take a lot of pitch to make it move water .
@RoniPlasse
@RoniPlasse 25 дней назад
Use a circular drill bit from the outside
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 25 дней назад
Yes, that would have worked great.
@Papa-sm1wk
@Papa-sm1wk Месяц назад
I'm in my sixties with arthritis and bursitis in both shoulders. I got to try this. Plus, I'm lazy.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
I’m glad I could inspire you in some small way. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
@sehtihrdenhutdortaufdersta3857
@sehtihrdenhutdortaufdersta3857 26 дней назад
Super 👍
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 25 дней назад
Thank you 👍
@robertj3116
@robertj3116 20 дней назад
I did the exact same thing about two years ago, except I accidentally had my drill in reverse once the engine started. It sucked out all of the power from my house and two of my neighbors we were in the dark for days.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 19 дней назад
lol, that sounds like an epic tale.
@marcosrubino7003
@marcosrubino7003 Месяц назад
I did something similar with my walk behind mower, but being safety conscious I used an overrunning clutch between the drill and the crankshaft. That way when the engine revs faster than the drill it won't damage my wrist nor the drill. An inexpensive 1/2 inch Torrington clutch does the job well enough.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Yes, good idea to use a clutch device especially on bigger engines.
@roberttaylor2616
@roberttaylor2616 Месяц назад
Speaking from experience you will strip the threads of the end of the crank, then after more tinkering you might break off the end of the crankshaft. Ask my weed eater (stihl) 😮😢
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
@@roberttaylor2616 Yes, that is a possibility. I did a follow up video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jf4qOC9220I.html
@danielploy9143
@danielploy9143 25 дней назад
Interesting, looks like you put the drill in reverse then it started. Did you put the drill in reverse?
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 25 дней назад
I think I did accidentally have the wrong direction at one point. However, this is a 2 stroke engine so it will run in either direction. The cooling fan is designed to run clockwise so don't want to intentionally run counter.
@hububa
@hububa 26 дней назад
Not terrible!
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 25 дней назад
I'll take that =)
@patrickday4206
@patrickday4206 Месяц назад
I did this for years to start my wacker 😂
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Those whackers can be a pain!
@gonsalvesturnings8254
@gonsalvesturnings8254 9 дней назад
Great idea for most small engine applications. Emergency generator - not so much. What happens if you get a power outage and you battery drill is not charged?
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 6 дней назад
It’s a consideration but not a big concern. I have two batteries and one is always on the charger. Also, today’s lithium ion batteries are very good.
@paulciprus9582
@paulciprus9582 Месяц назад
Been there done that….😀
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
I was definitely not the first 👍
@chrisbaker2903
@chrisbaker2903 Год назад
I noticed right off that you left the air flow shroud off over the flywheel. Probably not a good idea as those fins on the flywheel and the shroud direct cooling air to the engine. OK, I see you realized the cooling issue. Cool! All that drilling why not use a hole saw attachment on your drill. Probably would have gone right through that inner mount for the recoil starter too. I like your video because I have exactly the same generator. I have a couple of larger ones I plan to convert too. If those work as well, I'm considering a minibike to put over to my local grocery store with a bike trailer hooked on behind to get my groceries instead of driving my 1 ton dodge diesel pickup.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Год назад
Thanks for checking in Chris. The only reason for not using a hole saw is I don’t have one of the appropriate size. I would really like to know how the harbor freight mini bike works out, please check back.
@chrisbaker2903
@chrisbaker2903 Год назад
@@TheLawnEngineer I was thinkin of Tractor Supply and their Coleman bikes.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Год назад
@@chrisbaker2903 That makes more sense. Those little bikes do look fun to play around with. I have a Honda 50cc trail bike growing up...lots of good memories.
@chrisbaker2903
@chrisbaker2903 Год назад
@@TheLawnEngineer Thanks. I've also got a predator engine from HF and I am considering mounting it so that it can turn a 12 VDC (nominal, usually about 13.8) alternator from a car to power my amateur radios during Field Day. It is irritating to my sensibilities to generate house voltage and current and then convert it to 12 VDC to run DC appliances. It's not an efficient process.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Год назад
@@chrisbaker2903 that sounds like a good idea. Are you going to include something for capacitance like a battery? I often wonder if we are going to go back to DC to some degree within homes. With LEDs and battery charging we are using quite a bit of direct current electricity.
@garysgarage.2841
@garysgarage.2841 Месяц назад
I tried this one time when my mower rope broke. Well ended up breaking the transmission in my drill so at the end of the day I had a broken mower and a broken drill that cost more to fix then it was worth.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
That sounds like a bad day, thanks for sharing so others can understand what can happen.
@tim-hill
@tim-hill 10 месяцев назад
Switching drills was probably a good idea.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 10 месяцев назад
Yes, the impact is definitely not the correct tool.
@Dbjones33-ej2dt
@Dbjones33-ej2dt 9 месяцев назад
Excellent video. Maybe Safety glasses to spare your eyes in case micro splinters are flying?
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 9 месяцев назад
Yes I could wear my safety glasses more. Thanks for checking in 👍.
@hunterdoncanady
@hunterdoncanady Год назад
lol that thing had spark, you just didnt have it in drill mode and it was hammering and didnt want to look dumb
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Год назад
I actually used an impact driver first and completely agree, that is the wrong tool. Then I messed with the plug wire and it fell apart. You should subscribe and watch more videos to see more dumb things I do.
@allegory7638
@allegory7638 Год назад
Think I'd just fix the pull rope.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Год назад
That’s definitely an option.
@joegaines8826
@joegaines8826 Месяц назад
What happens when you have to start the generator to charge your dead drill batteries? Great idea though.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
I guess you are out of luck then 🫣
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN Месяц назад
DON'T expect much out of that thing, been there done that LOL
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
I am definitely not singing the praises of this generator but it's actually been slightly better than garbage.
@ElmerHarris-ud3oy
@ElmerHarris-ud3oy Месяц назад
That method works great until as long as your drill motor battery is charged.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Yes that is a consideration.
@robertduncan2742
@robertduncan2742 8 дней назад
Just a thought why can't one take a old stater and use a belt connected to a clutch like that's used on snow mobiles but smaller, connecting the clutch to the dc shaft and mounting a small pulley to the engine. Just a thought I had
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 6 дней назад
That could work👍
@cr-us9ch
@cr-us9ch Месяц назад
well, as long as your drill battery isnt run down where you need the generator to charge the battery that you need to start the generator
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
I have a backup, but yes that must be accounted for.
@greenidguy9292
@greenidguy9292 29 дней назад
This is a bad idea, but thanks for the effort.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 27 дней назад
No worries!
@Rompastompa71
@Rompastompa71 Месяц назад
I`m Sure Your Wife Loves Your Eyes.... Wear Some Safety Glasses Dude. Besides That, Great Video.💪
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Thanks! Will do!
@user-qb2lr1ls3d
@user-qb2lr1ls3d Месяц назад
Very good video but you should wear safety glasses
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Yes, you are right. I’ll be better.
@integr8er66
@integr8er66 25 дней назад
Actually no matter what kind of generator you buy, the more you use it the longer it will last. I have a champion china generator that has well over 10,000 hrs on it, and it doesn't even use any oil.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 25 дней назад
Great information, thanks for sharing.
@SuperLittleTyke
@SuperLittleTyke День назад
Ingenious. But why 2-stroke and not 4-stroke?
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer День назад
You can do the same thing with 4 stroke but they normally start a little easier and the rope isn’t such a burden.
@BOB12349307
@BOB12349307 Месяц назад
just buy a generac the 3250 bottom of the line now even has electric start.. best generator ever
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Yes, that’s clearly a better generator.
@hokmed4787
@hokmed4787 6 месяцев назад
Do not do this with gloves on when the gloves get ripped off your hand it hurts alot. You also can break off the cam bolt
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 6 месяцев назад
Good points, thanks for the taking the time to check-in. I did a follow-up video to talk about some points you mentioned. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jf4qOC9220I.html
@ecgoudy
@ecgoudy 2 года назад
Tried this with my harbor freight predator post hole digger that would never start and broke the bolt off the crank these are not made for this type of torque on that nut
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 2 года назад
Yes, that is definitely a risk. Out of curiosity, were you using a impact driver or a drill? I know the impact drivers hit pretty hard.
@mikesalive
@mikesalive Год назад
A motor that will never start will never start.
@SirCavemaninthewest
@SirCavemaninthewest 2 года назад
It's only good until the nut starts to strip. Lol
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 2 года назад
Very true…this video could probably use a disclaimer.
@mikesalive
@mikesalive Год назад
Actually it's ok when the nut starts to strip.. the problem is when it's done stripping :P
@tomcross4981
@tomcross4981 Месяц назад
I learned how to pour gas in it
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
That is better than nothing 🤣
@NickAbbot.
@NickAbbot. 6 дней назад
What happens when you need to charge your drill battery during a power outage?
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 5 дней назад
That’s a consideration but it uses very little of the battery to start the generator. I’m more likely to be out of gas than have a dead drill battery.
@bdmitx
@bdmitx 28 дней назад
It will loosen the bolt that holds the flywheel in place ! (Nut)
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 27 дней назад
I did a follow up video covering these points Watch this Before Converting Engine to Drill Start ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jf4qOC9220I.html
@rogerbrandt6678
@rogerbrandt6678 Месяц назад
What about one that has compression release.? This will never work on bigger engines.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
No, it won’t work on everything, but larger drills are available. Also, large engines usually have electric start.
@rogerbrandt6678
@rogerbrandt6678 Месяц назад
@@TheLawnEngineer yeah some engines have something to do with compression would make it impossible to, but I will try it.
@markorsrpska7230
@markorsrpska7230 2 дня назад
Unfortunately, most pull start engines don't have a center bolt but some weird three tooth assembly that is part of the clutch mechanism, so your idea will work on 1% of the small engines on the market, ie only small electric generators.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 2 дня назад
Fair point but 1% is unfairly low.
@markorsrpska7230
@markorsrpska7230 2 дня назад
@@TheLawnEngineer It's guesstimate I pulled out of a hat. It can be 5,10% or more. I tried to do it with my grass trimmer a long time ago, but without major surgery it's "No way, Jose". Cheers ..
@dennyclosser8456
@dennyclosser8456 Месяц назад
Just use a wholesale dude from the front don’t need to take all the spot welds out.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Yes sir
@marauder2525
@marauder2525 2 года назад
Good info...Thanks. But, where are your safety glasses?
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer 2 года назад
You’re welcome!
@mark_r49
@mark_r49 Месяц назад
Safety first! Use sensible shoes!
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Fair enough
@bassdale17
@bassdale17 Месяц назад
Now that i runs first order is to charge the drill batteries.
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
That would be prudent 🤓
@stevej00
@stevej00 Месяц назад
Did I see the engine being cranked in two different directions?
@TheLawnEngineer
@TheLawnEngineer Месяц назад
Very possible, I’m far from perfect.
@stevej00
@stevej00 Месяц назад
@@TheLawnEngineer as am I. The only way I knew I did it backwards was the nut came off. My nut went flying and I spent too long looking for it. 😂
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